Re: [Elecraft] [K3] My K3 needs pimping
I have several radios with dual receive, and I have several radios with a spectrum scope, and several radios that have both. My vote is the spectrum scope. When you are saving your pennies for a second radio, save some more and buy a second radio. There is nothing like SO2R George, W6GF Sent from my iPad > On Mar 9, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > >> On Mon,3/9/2015 9:24 AM, Don Putnick via Elecraft wrote: >> Should my next purchase be a subreceiver or a panadapter, and why? > > Buy the P3 first. Both are useful. My primary use for the 2nd RX is diversity > reception, which requires two antennas. It's most useful on the lowest bands, > especially 160 and 80, but also on 40. I also use it to listen on my TX > frequency when running split in a pileup. That way, I know if there's a QSO > there. I can also time my calls with another station in the same pileup on > that frequency. > > The P3 gives you a nice overview of the pileup, it allows you to monitor a > "dead" band for activity (like 10M, 6M), it helps you identify RFI, it can > even show you the bandwidth of dirty signals. In the E30FB pileup on 15CW > this morning, K7RR was clicking almost 2 kHz wide, and the P3 clearly showed > it. > > On 6M, I set the P3 for 200 kHz (max width), to display 50.08 MHz to 50.280 > MHz. This lets me monitor for CW, SSB, and JT65/JT9 activity. I've picked up > a lot of rare grids in short openings that way. Last fall there was an > opening to CX and PY I made four Qs in three grids! > > 73, Jim K9YC > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to georgefrit...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] My K3 needs pimping
I would say "Get Both" but the P3 really should be 1st On Mon, 2015-03-09 at 16:24 +, Don Putnick via Elecraft wrote: > Okay, folks. Please advise me on a worthy cause - my K3. I'm a casual DXer > and I don't contest. My main modes are SSB and soundcard digital. I'm fully > stocked with roofing filters, and I have the KPA500 and KAT500. Should my > next purchase be a subreceiver or a panadapter, and why? 73 Don NA6Z K3 #5495 > ' > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to d...@nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hlyin...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] My K3 needs pimping
That is actually one of the best analogy's I have heard for a Panadaptor, and it is dead on correct. -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info On Mon, 2015-03-09 at 16:12 -0500, Richard Fjeld wrote: > Don, > > Without a P3, it is like driving at night without headlights. > > And I find it tells me a lot more than just where the other signals are. > > Dick, n0ce > > > > > > > > > Okay, folks. Please advise me on a worthy cause - my K3. I'm a > > casual DXer and I don't contest. My main modes are SSB and soundcard > > digital. I'm fully stocked with roofing filters, and I have the > > KPA500 and KAT500. Should my next purchase be a subreceiver or a > > panadapter, and why? 73 Don NA6Z K3 #5495 > > > ' > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to d...@nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] My K3 needs pimping
Well Don, your question was a SubRx *or* a Panadaptor [P3?]. In the interest of balance ... I have a moderately vanilla K3 #642, KPA500, KAT500, and P3. I have the stock SSB filter and a 500 Hz CW filter. I do not have a SubRx. There may be some confusion lurking on the list. I have no problem whatsoever running split. I receive on VFO A which I put on the DX and leave alone. I transmit on VFO B, which I tune around in the pile-up using the "Little Knob." I decide where to park VFO B by looking at the P3 waterfall. I may occasionally want to listen to my tx QRG, I do that with one button. The confusion? You need a SubRx to do some things ... diversity reception is one example. You do *not* need a SubRx to chase DX split, operate in contests, or a variety of other operating habits. I don't know how having one would have any effect on how I operate. Initially, I bought the P3 as a toy ... last panadaptor I had was a WW2 rack-mounted monster with a 3" round screen perhaps 40 years ago. My wife has a needlepoint hobby, we have an Equal Hobby Allowance policy, and needlepoint is about as expensive as ham radio. My stuff is higher priced, but she buys a LOT more of her stuff. I have found a myriad of uses for the P3 since then, and now when operating, that's what I look at, not the radio. It is sooo very different to "see" the band rather than hear only the tiny segment where I'm tuned. Unless you have one of the distinct needs for the SubRx, and it is an either/or decision, my recommendation is the P3. I did buy the DVK for my K3 -- I have never used more than 2 memories and then only in ARRL SS SSB for my CQ and my exchange following the number. If I ever come up with another reason that works for me, I'll let you know, but for now, it is unused. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015 - www.cqp.org On 3/9/2015 1:05 PM, Gary Smith wrote: Don, The answer is: Yes. Why? The answer is: Well, of course. 73, Gary KA1J Okay, folks. Please advise me on a worthy cause - my K3. I'm a casual DXer and I don't contest. My main modes are SSB and soundcard digital. I'm fully stocked with roofing filters, and I have the KPA500 and KAT500. Should my next purchase be a subreceiver or a panadapter, and why? 73 Don NA6Z K3 #5495 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] My K3 needs pimping
On Mon,3/9/2015 9:24 AM, Don Putnick via Elecraft wrote: Should my next purchase be a subreceiver or a panadapter, and why? Buy the P3 first. Both are useful. My primary use for the 2nd RX is diversity reception, which requires two antennas. It's most useful on the lowest bands, especially 160 and 80, but also on 40. I also use it to listen on my TX frequency when running split in a pileup. That way, I know if there's a QSO there. I can also time my calls with another station in the same pileup on that frequency. The P3 gives you a nice overview of the pileup, it allows you to monitor a "dead" band for activity (like 10M, 6M), it helps you identify RFI, it can even show you the bandwidth of dirty signals. In the E30FB pileup on 15CW this morning, K7RR was clicking almost 2 kHz wide, and the P3 clearly showed it. On 6M, I set the P3 for 200 kHz (max width), to display 50.08 MHz to 50.280 MHz. This lets me monitor for CW, SSB, and JT65/JT9 activity. I've picked up a lot of rare grids in short openings that way. Last fall there was an opening to CX and PY I made four Qs in three grids! 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] My K3 needs pimping
Don, Without a P3, it is like driving at night without headlights. And I find it tells me a lot more than just where the other signals are. Dick, n0ce > > > Okay, folks. Please advise me on a worthy cause - my K3. I'm a > casual DXer and I don't contest. My main modes are SSB and soundcard > digital. I'm fully stocked with roofing filters, and I have the > KPA500 and KAT500. Should my next purchase be a subreceiver or a > panadapter, and why? 73 Don NA6Z K3 #5495 > > ' > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] My K3 needs pimping
Don, The answer is: Yes. Why? The answer is: Well, of course. 73, Gary KA1J > Okay, folks. Please advise me on a worthy cause - my K3. I'm a casual DXer and I don't contest. My main modes are SSB and soundcard digital. I'm fully stocked with roofing filters, and I have the KPA500 and KAT500. Should my next purchase be a subreceiver or a panadapter, and why? 73 Don NA6Z K3 #5495 > ' > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to g...@ka1j.com > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] My K3 needs pimping
Panadaptor, you will probably get more use from it than the sub rx. I do... I had occasion to have it mine off for a bit, and it is crippling to no longer have one... I use it so much more than a sub RX. -- Thanks and 73's, For equipment, and software setups and reviews see: www.nk7z.net for MixW support see; http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info for Dopplergram information see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info for MM-SSTV see: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info On Mon, 2015-03-09 at 16:24 +, Don Putnick via Elecraft wrote: > Okay, folks. Please advise me on a worthy cause - my K3. I'm a casual DXer > and I don't contest. My main modes are SSB and soundcard digital. I'm fully > stocked with roofing filters, and I have the KPA500 and KAT500. Should my > next purchase be a subreceiver or a panadapter, and why? 73 Don NA6Z K3 #5495 > ' > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to d...@nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] [K3] My K3 needs pimping
Okay, folks. Please advise me on a worthy cause - my K3. I'm a casual DXer and I don't contest. My main modes are SSB and soundcard digital. I'm fully stocked with roofing filters, and I have the KPA500 and KAT500. Should my next purchase be a subreceiver or a panadapter, and why? 73 Don NA6Z K3 #5495 ' __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
