Re: [Elecraft] K3 + Heil HC4

2009-12-24 Thread Mike
Do you have MENU:MIC SEL set to FP.H? BIAS on? Mic gain on my setup is 25.

I put an ohmeter on the adapter, and pin 1 is the hot lead, pin 7 is 
ground. Are you sure you're looking at the pins correctly?
Looking into the connector on the front of the K3, pin 1 is on the left 
of the key bump and pin 7 is on the right. The pins are numbered 
anti-clockwise from 1 to 7, with 8 being in the middle. I don't think 
the Heil adapter has anything inside the shell, no extra components.

73, Mike

ki4...@msn wrote:
 Hello Mike,

 Thanks for the link. I looked at  Mic  connector pinout,  1 and 7 are used
 for MIC , it is the same  as K3, so  I  wired HC4 Mic jack tip (hot ) to  1
 and  common(ground) to ground pin 7 , that did not  work !
 I would expect some more components   between  K3 Mic and  HC4.If it  is
 only wiring then I have done correctly , must be  something else I missed.

 73

 Sejo , N3UA

 -Original Message-
 From: Mike [mailto:n...@nf4l.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 7:15 PM
 To: n3ua
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 + Heil HC4

 Here's a .pdf of a Kenwood TS-850. The pinout for the mic is on p. 13.

 http://www.qsl.net/dk9ip/850IM/850im.pdf

 73, Mike NF4L

 n3ua wrote:
   
 Thanks  everyone  who responded, looks  like my problem is  Kenwood
 
 Adapter.
   
 Don't have one , wired directly  from Heil mic jack 3.5mm tip to  K3 Mic 
 connector pin 1 and  ground to  ground -pin 7 (8).
 Does anyone have Kenwood adapter schematic?

 Thanks

 73

 N3UA
   
 




   


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 + Heil HC4

2009-12-24 Thread Ian Maude
You do not want bias on for a HC4, it is a dynamic insert.

73 Ian

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2009/12/24 Mike n...@nf4l.com

 Do you have MENU:MIC SEL set to FP.H? BIAS on? Mic gain on my setup is 25.

 I put an ohmeter on the adapter, and pin 1 is the hot lead, pin 7 is
 ground. Are you sure you're looking at the pins correctly?
 Looking into the connector on the front of the K3, pin 1 is on the left
 of the key bump and pin 7 is on the right. The pins are numbered
 anti-clockwise from 1 to 7, with 8 being in the middle. I don't think
 the Heil adapter has anything inside the shell, no extra components.

 73, Mike

 ki4...@msn wrote:
  Hello Mike,
 
  Thanks for the link. I looked at  Mic  connector pinout,  1 and 7 are
 used
  for MIC , it is the same  as K3, so  I  wired HC4 Mic jack tip (hot ) to
  1
  and  common(ground) to ground pin 7 , that did not  work !
  I would expect some more components   between  K3 Mic and  HC4.If it  is
  only wiring then I have done correctly , must be  something else I
 missed.
 
  73
 
  Sejo , N3UA
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mike [mailto:n...@nf4l.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 7:15 PM
  To: n3ua
  Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 + Heil HC4
 
  Here's a .pdf of a Kenwood TS-850. The pinout for the mic is on p. 13.
 
  http://www.qsl.net/dk9ip/850IM/850im.pdf
 
  73, Mike NF4L
 
  n3ua wrote:
 
  Thanks  everyone  who responded, looks  like my problem is  Kenwood
 
  Adapter.
 
  Don't have one , wired directly  from Heil mic jack 3.5mm tip to  K3 Mic
  connector pin 1 and  ground to  ground -pin 7 (8).
  Does anyone have Kenwood adapter schematic?
 
  Thanks
 
  73
 
  N3UA
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 + Heil HC4

2009-12-24 Thread Mike
Oops. Thanks for catching that. I must have turned it on when I was 
looking at the settings.

73, Mike

Ian Maude wrote:
 You do not want bias on for a HC4, it is a dynamic insert.

 73 Ian

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 2009/12/24 Mike n...@nf4l.com mailto:n...@nf4l.com

 Do you have MENU:MIC SEL set to FP.H? BIAS on? Mic gain on my
 setup is 25.

 I put an ohmeter on the adapter, and pin 1 is the hot lead, pin 7 is
 ground. Are you sure you're looking at the pins correctly?
 Looking into the connector on the front of the K3, pin 1 is on the
 left
 of the key bump and pin 7 is on the right. The pins are numbered
 anti-clockwise from 1 to 7, with 8 being in the middle. I don't think
 the Heil adapter has anything inside the shell, no extra components.

 73, Mike

 ki4...@msn wrote:
  Hello Mike,
 
  Thanks for the link. I looked at  Mic  connector pinout,  1 and
 7 are used
  for MIC , it is the same  as K3, so  I  wired HC4 Mic jack tip
 (hot ) to  1
  and  common(ground) to ground pin 7 , that did not  work !
  I would expect some more components   between  K3 Mic and
  HC4.If it  is
  only wiring then I have done correctly , must be  something else
 I missed.
 
  73
 
  Sejo , N3UA
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mike [mailto:n...@nf4l.com mailto:n...@nf4l.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 7:15 PM
  To: n3ua
  Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 + Heil HC4
 
  Here's a .pdf of a Kenwood TS-850. The pinout for the mic is on
 p. 13.
 
  http://www.qsl.net/dk9ip/850IM/850im.pdf
 
  73, Mike NF4L
 
  n3ua wrote:
 
  Thanks  everyone  who responded, looks  like my problem is  Kenwood
 
  Adapter.
 
  Don't have one , wired directly  from Heil mic jack 3.5mm tip
 to  K3 Mic
  connector pin 1 and  ground to  ground -pin 7 (8).
  Does anyone have Kenwood adapter schematic?
 
  Thanks
 
  73
 
  N3UA
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 + Heil HC4

2009-12-23 Thread Ian Maude
My guess would be that you have the wrong adapter.  It needs to be the
Kenwood one.  The settings should be FP-H and no bias.

73 Ian

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2009/12/23 n3ua ki4...@msn.com


 I am unable to get  Heil HC4 working  connected to K3 front panel.Tried
 FP.H/FP.L  with  bias on and off but  no luck !??.
 Connected  cheap Condenser Microphone Element  on FP - worked great. On
 rear
 panel  HC4  works fine. Any idea ?

 Thanks

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 + Heil HC4

2009-12-23 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
Hello,

Heil ProSet with kenwood adapter will work 100% in the K3??

Thanks,
Jorge
CX6VM

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My guess would be that you have the wrong adapter.  It needs to be the
Kenwood one.  The settings should be FP-H and no bias.

73 Ian

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2009/12/23 n3ua ki4...@msn.com


 I am unable to get  Heil HC4 working  connected to K3 front panel.Tried
 FP.H/FP.L  with  bias on and off but  no luck !??.
 Connected  cheap Condenser Microphone Element  on FP - worked great. On
 rear
 panel  HC4  works fine. Any idea ?

 Thanks

 N3UA
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 + Heil HC4

2009-12-23 Thread Mike
Works very well in mine.

73, Mike NF4L

Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote:
 Hello,

 Heil ProSet with kenwood adapter will work 100% in the K3??

 Thanks,
 Jorge
 CX6VM

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 Enviado el: MiƩrcoles, 23 de Diciembre de 2009 06:40 a.m.
 Para: n3ua
 CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] K3 + Heil HC4

 My guess would be that you have the wrong adapter.  It needs to be the
 Kenwood one.  The settings should be FP-H and no bias.

 73 Ian

   


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 + Heil HC4

2009-12-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
You say the rear panel settings work - put those same settings on the FP 
mic menu and try it.
If a condenser mic element works on the FP, then you must have Bias set 
on - turn it off for the HC-4 and set the range to H.
You must have the Kenwood adapter to use the front panel connector.  
IIRC, the color band for the Kenwood adapter is red.

73,
Don W3FPR

n3ua wrote:
 I am unable to get  Heil HC4 working  connected to K3 front panel.Tried
 FP.H/FP.L  with  bias on and off but  no luck !??.
 Connected  cheap Condenser Microphone Element  on FP - worked great. On rear
 panel  HC4  works fine. Any idea ?

 Thanks

 N3UA
   
   
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 + Heil HC4

2009-12-23 Thread n3ua

Thanks  everyone  who responded, looks  like my problem is  Kenwood Adapter.
Don't have one , wired directly  from Heil mic jack 3.5mm tip to  K3 Mic 
connector pin 1 and  ground to  ground -pin 7 (8).
Does anyone have Kenwood adapter schematic?

Thanks

73

N3UA
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 + Heil HC4

2009-12-23 Thread Mike
Here's a .pdf of a Kenwood TS-850. The pinout for the mic is on p. 13.

http://www.qsl.net/dk9ip/850IM/850im.pdf

73, Mike NF4L

n3ua wrote:
 Thanks  everyone  who responded, looks  like my problem is  Kenwood Adapter.
 Don't have one , wired directly  from Heil mic jack 3.5mm tip to  K3 Mic 
 connector pin 1 and  ground to  ground -pin 7 (8).
 Does anyone have Kenwood adapter schematic?

 Thanks

 73

 N3UA
   


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 + Heil HC4

2009-12-23 Thread Julius Fazekas n2wn

This link should help with many of the mics floating about in hamdom:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rg4wpw/date.html

73,
Julius


Mike-14 wrote:
 
 Here's a .pdf of a Kenwood TS-850. The pinout for the mic is on p. 13.
 
 http://www.qsl.net/dk9ip/850IM/850im.pdf
 
 73, Mike NF4L
 
 n3ua wrote:
 Thanks  everyone  who responded, looks  like my problem is  Kenwood
 Adapter.
 Don't have one , wired directly  from Heil mic jack 3.5mm tip to  K3 Mic 
 connector pin 1 and  ground to  ground -pin 7 (8).
 Does anyone have Kenwood adapter schematic?

 Thanks

 73

 N3UA
   
 
 
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[Elecraft] K3 + Heil HC4

2009-12-22 Thread n3ua

I am unable to get  Heil HC4 working  connected to K3 front panel.Tried
FP.H/FP.L  with  bias on and off but  no luck !??.
Connected  cheap Condenser Microphone Element  on FP - worked great. On rear
panel  HC4  works fine. Any idea ?

Thanks

N3UA
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