Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

2018-04-19 Thread Dick Green WC1M 
USPS has a similar free service, called Informed Delivery. It also lets you see 
photos of mail pieces (non-packages) heading your way. Fedex has something 
similar as well. One thing that's great about these services is they tell you 
what's coming to your address even if you don't have a tracking number. It's 
definitely worth signing up for these free accounts. You also get the ability 
to prepay for shipping and print labels. That saves time at the P.O. and 
sometimes I can get UPS or Fedex to pick up the package for fee when they're 
delivering one.

I agree that any one of these services can and will damage goods that are not 
packed well. That's on the shipper. Most of the horror stories I've heard were 
due to the shipper not packing the goods adequately (though sometimes that can 
be undone on an international shipment by customs inspectors.) That said, I've 
seen some instances where the box itself was penetrated or crushed, which is on 
the carrier.

I believe custom foam inserts and double-boxing are the best way to protect 
electronic equipment, though double boxing almost always involves the dreaded 
peanuts.

I live at the end of an 1100' gravel driveway, so the carriers can leave 
packages on the front porch with little or no danger that they'll be stolen. 
Even so, for something as expensive as a KPA1500 I would opt for a signature 
being required. I suspect that if you don't do  that you could have trouble 
collecting the full insurance. Also, several times UPS has delivered our 
packages to the wrong address. We were able to get them back, but that might 
not be the case with something really expensive.

Sometimes a substitute driver will refuse to venture down our driveway for fear 
of not being able to turn around (the turn-around isn't visible from the road) 
or fear of getting stuck in snow, ice or mud. So they leave the package in the 
mailbox (which I believe is illegal) or they put it in a plastic bag tied to 
the mailbox post. The mailbox is right on the highway in front of our driveway, 
so the package could be stolen easily. A couple of times they just dumped the 
box in the snow at head of the driveway. I usually call to let UPS know so they 
can tell the drivers not to do that. Again, requiring a signature gets around 
that problem but also requires that we hang around all day. I recently had a 
signature-required shipment where the estimated delivery times were off by many 
hours so I missed it twice and had to pick it up at the UPS depot 20 minutes 
away.

My least favorite delivery method is SurePost. UPS picks up the package, sends 
it to your region, then hands it off to USPS for the last part of the trip. 
That always adds at least one day, if not several days.

All this said, it amazes me how much stuff we're buying online these days and 
how cheap the shipping has become.

73, Dick WC1M

-Original Message-
From: j...@kk9a.com <j...@kk9a.com> 
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 12:37 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

Sign up for UPS My Choice
https://www.ups.com/mobile/deliveryplanner?loc=en_US and you will be aware of 
every package coming to your residence. You can redirect packages if they 
require a signature and you will not be home.

John KK9A


N4ZR wrote:

Yes, I know. The problem is that they did not warn me when tracking the package 
that I would have to be there, and despite claiming they would do so, their web 
site also gave me no inkling of when during the day I could expect delivery. 
For a company that designs its deliveryroutes to minimize left turns, you'd 
think this would be child's play.

73, Pete N4ZR
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[Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

2018-04-19 Thread j...@kk9a.com 
Sign up for UPS My Choice
https://www.ups.com/mobile/deliveryplanner?loc=en_US and you will be aware
of every package coming to your residence. You can redirect packages if
they require a signature and you will not be home.

John KK9A


N4ZR wrote:

Yes, I know. The problem is that they did not warn me when tracking the
package that I would have to be there, and despite claiming they would
do so, their web site also gave me no inkling of when during the day I
could expect delivery. For a company that designs its deliveryroutes to
minimize left turns, you'd think this would be child's play.

73, Pete N4ZR
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Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

2018-04-19 Thread SAMUEL L ROWE 
I have that as well as Informed Delivery Daily Digest from the USPS which is 
also free.


Sam KG9NG



From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> on 
behalf of Jim N7US <j...@n7us.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:35 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

I signed up for UPS My Choice, which is free.  I receive emails informing me of 
any packages scheduled for delivery at my address whether they're addressed to 
me or someone else in my household.  I can specify where the packages are to be 
left (e.g., side porch), when, or whether I want to pick up the package at a 
UPS location.

Check it out at
https://www.ups.com/us/en/services/tracking/mychoice.page .
UPS My Choice® | UPS 
Services<https://www.ups.com/us/en/services/tracking/mychoice.page>
www.ups.com
UPS My Choice® lets you decide how, where and when home deliveries occur. 
Online or by mobile, with My Choice you can put your plans ahead of the 
package. UPS My Choice® lets you decide how, where and when home deliveries 
occur. Online or by mobile, with UPS My Choice you can put your plans ahead of



73, Jim N7US

-Original Message-


There is an APP that allows you to specify when you want your package delivered 
by UPS.  Also, you might have been able to go to the UPS distribution point in 
your area and pick it up, depending on what time of day you got home, etc...  I 
have done this several times.

I know it is disappointing to miss a delivery, but the other fellow is right.  
I wouldn't want that beautiful amp to sit on my door step for anyone to pick up 
when I'm not home.

73,

Dave, K4TO

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 8:39 AM, tnnyswy--- via Elecraft < 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> >>> Imagine my surprise to
> see that a signature was required <<<
> Pete, why would you be surprise? !!Or! maybe the question
> should've been, should UPS just leave such an expensive package on
> your doorstep?!!!I'm sure there were instructions on how to get the
> Radio/ Package at your convenience. You should be rather "Thrilled"
> that UPS has given consideration to following the instructions of a
> safe delivery set forth by Elecraft.
> Milverton / W9MMS.
>
>
> On Thursday, April 19, 2018, 6:54:34 AM CDT, N4ZR
> <n...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>  I have had good luck with USPS, but am less than thrilled with UPS.
> My
> K3 has been on its way back from Watsonville and was to arrive
> yesterday, but I wasn't home when UPS came by.  Imagine my surprise to
> see that a signature was required, and that they will try again today,
> but with no indication of when or what will happen if I miss them today.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR

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Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

2018-04-19 Thread N4ZR 
Yes, I know. The problem is that they did not warn me when tracking the 
package that I would have to be there, and despite claiming they would 
do so, their web site also gave me no inkling of when during the day I 
could expect delivery. For a company that designs its deliveryroutes to 
minimize left turns, you'd think this would be child's play.


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On 4/19/2018 9:32 AM, Mark E. Musick wrote:

Pete,
It is common practice to require a signature for any package of large value. I 
know that anything shipped to me over $1,000 or sometimes even $500 will 
require my signature.
I get around the having to be home issue by having the package shipped to the 
local UPS store. Yes, it costs $5.00, but well worth the convenience.
There are two ways to have your package delivered to the UPS store after being 
shipped to your home address:
One, leave a note on the door where the delivery man left his note yesterday 
telling him to drop it off at the UPS store.
The second way is using the tracking number go to the UPS website and change 
the delivery address to the local UPS store.
I've done number two many times when the UPS delivery man and I have had 
trouble connecting at my home.

73,
Mark, WB9CIF

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> On 
Behalf Of N4ZR
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:52 AM
To: Elecraft List <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

I have had good luck with USPS, but am less than thrilled with UPS.  My
K3 has been on its way back from Watsonville and was to arrive yesterday, but I 
wasn't home when UPS came by.  Imagine my surprise to see that a signature was 
required, and that they will try again today, but with no indication of when or 
what will happen if I miss them today.

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 4/18/2018 11:02 PM, Pete Michaelis - N8TR wrote:

That's odd. I got my shipping notice Friday (ordered first day 2.5
hours after email) and also a UPS   tracking number which I have been
using to track the amps progress.

73, Pete - N8TR



At 06:17 PM 4/18/2018, alapa...@w2cs.net wrote:

I’m a day-2 KPA1500 patient waiter.  I got the email 2 days ago and
today it shipped. There’s one potential problem.  It must have been
mentioned on this reflector and I missed it.  Elecraft used U.S.
Postal Service (USPS) to send the amp cross-country.  I have never
had a good experience with USPS’ handling of package deliveries,
particularly heavy (expensive) ones.  If you care about the shipper,
have the discussion with Elecraft up front.  I should have.  Good
luck all. Gary W2CS

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Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

2018-04-19 Thread Don Wilhelm 
I guess I am fortunate,  I have a 1/4 mile unpaved driveway - at the end 
of a 3/4 mile unpaved private road in our large lot subdivision (8+ 
acres for each lot.


The house cannot be seen until you get halfway up the driveway.
UPS delivers to my front door and USPS does the same for packages that 
will not fit in the mailbox.


I am signed up for UPS My Choice, so I am notified when a package will 
arrive.  I also signed the Driver Release so the driver can leave a 
package even though it is insured and I am temporarily away.
I am very careful to set a "vacation stop" for both UPS and USPS when I 
will be away for an extended period of time.  That guarantees that the 
driver will not leave a package when I am away from home for an extended 
period.


Delivery service from both carriers is excellent here, but as has been 
said, much depends on the local delivery person.  I reward mine with a 
gift during the holiday season, and it pays benefits.


USPS and UPS both work well for me.  I do not have the same flexibilty 
with FedEx, but that is not to say they are not a good carrier.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/19/2018 9:18 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

On 2018-04-19 9:00 AM, Dave Sublette wrote:
 >
 > I know it is disappointing to miss a delivery, but the other fellow is
 > right.  I wouldn't want that beautiful amp to sit on my door step for
 > anyone to pick up when I'm not home.

Consider yourself lucky if UPS *did not* drop the package on the porch
and run.  I have a 200 foot long driveway, the end of which is out of
sight of my front door.  UPS often dumps packages at the end of the
drive, in full view of the road, and out of sight of the house even if
I'm home!  The drivers simply don't want to pull into the narrow drive
(and back out) and they're too lazy to carry the package to the door
(or put it on a dolly if it's more than 25#) and wheel it up the
(concrete) drive.

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Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

2018-04-19 Thread Jim N7US 
I signed up for UPS My Choice, which is free.  I receive emails informing me of 
any packages scheduled for delivery at my address whether they're addressed to 
me or someone else in my household.  I can specify where the packages are to be 
left (e.g., side porch), when, or whether I want to pick up the package at a 
UPS location.

Check it out at 
https://www.ups.com/us/en/services/tracking/mychoice.page .

73, Jim N7US

-Original Message-


There is an APP that allows you to specify when you want your package delivered 
by UPS.  Also, you might have been able to go to the UPS distribution point in 
your area and pick it up, depending on what time of day you got home, etc...  I 
have done this several times.

I know it is disappointing to miss a delivery, but the other fellow is right.  
I wouldn't want that beautiful amp to sit on my door step for anyone to pick up 
when I'm not home.

73,

Dave, K4TO

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 8:39 AM, tnnyswy--- via Elecraft < 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> >>> Imagine my surprise to
> see that a signature was required <<<
> Pete, why would you be surprise? !!Or! maybe the question 
> should've been, should UPS just leave such an expensive package on 
> your doorstep?!!!I'm sure there were instructions on how to get the 
> Radio/ Package at your convenience. You should be rather "Thrilled" 
> that UPS has given consideration to following the instructions of a 
> safe delivery set forth by Elecraft.
> Milverton / W9MMS.
>
>
> On Thursday, April 19, 2018, 6:54:34 AM CDT, N4ZR 
> 
> wrote:
>
>  I have had good luck with USPS, but am less than thrilled with UPS.  
> My
> K3 has been on its way back from Watsonville and was to arrive 
> yesterday, but I wasn't home when UPS came by.  Imagine my surprise to 
> see that a signature was required, and that they will try again today, 
> but with no indication of when or what will happen if I miss them today.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR

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Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

2018-04-19 Thread Mark E. Musick 
Pete,
It is common practice to require a signature for any package of large value. I 
know that anything shipped to me over $1,000 or sometimes even $500 will 
require my signature.
I get around the having to be home issue by having the package shipped to the 
local UPS store. Yes, it costs $5.00, but well worth the convenience.
There are two ways to have your package delivered to the UPS store after being 
shipped to your home address:
One, leave a note on the door where the delivery man left his note yesterday 
telling him to drop it off at the UPS store.
The second way is using the tracking number go to the UPS website and change 
the delivery address to the local UPS store. 
I've done number two many times when the UPS delivery man and I have had 
trouble connecting at my home.

73,
Mark, WB9CIF

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> On 
Behalf Of N4ZR
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:52 AM
To: Elecraft List <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

I have had good luck with USPS, but am less than thrilled with UPS.  My
K3 has been on its way back from Watsonville and was to arrive yesterday, but I 
wasn't home when UPS came by.  Imagine my surprise to see that a signature was 
required, and that they will try again today, but with no indication of when or 
what will happen if I miss them today.

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 4/18/2018 11:02 PM, Pete Michaelis - N8TR wrote:
> That's odd. I got my shipping notice Friday (ordered first day 2.5 
> hours after email) and also a UPS   tracking number which I have been 
> using to track the amps progress.
>
> 73, Pete - N8TR
>
>
>
> At 06:17 PM 4/18/2018, alapa...@w2cs.net wrote:
>> I’m a day-2 KPA1500 patient waiter.  I got the email 2 days ago and 
>> today it shipped. There’s one potential problem.  It must have been 
>> mentioned on this reflector and I missed it.  Elecraft used U.S.
>> Postal Service (USPS) to send the amp cross-country.  I have never 
>> had a good experience with USPS’ handling of package deliveries, 
>> particularly heavy (expensive) ones.  If you care about the shipper, 
>> have the discussion with Elecraft up front.  I should have.  Good 
>> luck all. Gary W2CS
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Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

2018-04-19 Thread Don Wilhelm 
For UPS, Insurance of $1000 or more or a request for a direct signature 
will require that someone at your home sign for the delivery.


With USPS, that signature threshold is $500.

Normally, they will attempt to re-deliver the next business day.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/19/2018 8:39 AM, tnnyswy--- via Elecraft wrote:

Imagine my surprise to

see that a signature was required <<<
Pete, why would you be surprise? !!Or! maybe the question should've been, should UPS 
just leave such an expensive package on your doorstep?!!!I'm sure there were instructions 
on how to get the Radio/ Package at your convenience. You should be rather 
"Thrilled" that UPS has given consideration to following the instructions of a 
safe delivery set forth by Elecraft.
Milverton / W9MMS.

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Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

2018-04-19 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV 

On 2018-04-19 9:00 AM, Dave Sublette wrote:
>
> I know it is disappointing to miss a delivery, but the other fellow is
> right.  I wouldn't want that beautiful amp to sit on my door step for
> anyone to pick up when I'm not home.

Consider yourself lucky if UPS *did not* drop the package on the porch
and run.  I have a 200 foot long driveway, the end of which is out of
sight of my front door.  UPS often dumps packages at the end of the
drive, in full view of the road, and out of sight of the house even if
I'm home!  The drivers simply don't want to pull into the narrow drive
(and back out) and they're too lazy to carry the package to the door
(or put it on a dolly if it's more than 25#) and wheel it up the
(concrete) drive.


73,

   ... Joe, W4TV




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Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

2018-04-19 Thread Dave Sublette 
There is an APP that allows you to specify when you want your package
delivered by UPS.  Also, you might have been able to go to the UPS
distribution point in your area and pick it up, depending on what time of
day you got home, etc...  I have done this several times.

I know it is disappointing to miss a delivery, but the other fellow is
right.  I wouldn't want that beautiful amp to sit on my door step for
anyone to pick up when I'm not home.

73,

Dave, K4TO

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 8:39 AM, tnnyswy--- via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> >>> Imagine my surprise to
> see that a signature was required <<<
> Pete, why would you be surprise? !!Or! maybe the question should've
> been, should UPS just leave such an expensive package on your
> doorstep?!!!I'm sure there were instructions on how to get the Radio/
> Package at your convenience. You should be rather "Thrilled" that UPS has
> given consideration to following the instructions of a safe delivery set
> forth by Elecraft.
> Milverton / W9MMS.
>
>
> On Thursday, April 19, 2018, 6:54:34 AM CDT, N4ZR 
> wrote:
>
>  I have had good luck with USPS, but am less than thrilled with UPS.  My
> K3 has been on its way back from Watsonville and was to arrive
> yesterday, but I wasn't home when UPS came by.  Imagine my surprise to
> see that a signature was required, and that they will try again today,
> but with no indication of when or what will happen if I miss them today.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
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> On 4/18/2018 11:02 PM, Pete Michaelis - N8TR wrote:
> > That's odd. I got my shipping notice Friday (ordered first day 2.5
> > hours after email)
> > and also a UPS   tracking number which I have been using to track the
> > amps progress.
> >
> > 73, Pete - N8TR
> >
> >
> >
> > At 06:17 PM 4/18/2018, alapa...@w2cs.net wrote:
> >> I’m a day-2 KPA1500 patient waiter.  I got the email 2 days ago and
> >> today it shipped. There’s one potential problem.  It must have been
> >> mentioned on this reflector and I missed it.  Elecraft used U.S.
> >> Postal Service (USPS) to send the amp cross-country.  I have never
> >> had a good experience with USPS’ handling of package deliveries,
> >> particularly heavy (expensive) ones.  If you care about the shipper,
> >> have the discussion with Elecraft up front.  I should have.  Good
> >> luck all. Gary W2CS
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Re: [Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

2018-04-19 Thread tnnyswy--- via Elecraft 
>>> Imagine my surprise to 
see that a signature was required <<<
Pete, why would you be surprise? !!Or! maybe the question should've been, 
should UPS just leave such an expensive package on your doorstep?!!!I'm sure 
there were instructions on how to get the Radio/ Package at your convenience. 
You should be rather "Thrilled" that UPS has given consideration to following 
the instructions of a safe delivery set forth by Elecraft.
Milverton / W9MMS. 
 

On Thursday, April 19, 2018, 6:54:34 AM CDT, N4ZR  wrote: 
 
 
 I have had good luck with USPS, but am less than thrilled with UPS.  My 
K3 has been on its way back from Watsonville and was to arrive 
yesterday, but I wasn't home when UPS came by.  Imagine my surprise to 
see that a signature was required, and that they will try again today, 
but with no indication of when or what will happen if I miss them today.

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 4/18/2018 11:02 PM, Pete Michaelis - N8TR wrote:
> That's odd. I got my shipping notice Friday (ordered first day 2.5 
> hours after email)
> and also a UPS   tracking number which I have been using to track the 
> amps progress.
>
> 73, Pete - N8TR
>
>
>
> At 06:17 PM 4/18/2018, alapa...@w2cs.net wrote:
>> I’m a day-2 KPA1500 patient waiter.  I got the email 2 days ago and 
>> today it shipped. There’s one potential problem.  It must have been 
>> mentioned on this reflector and I missed it.  Elecraft used U.S. 
>> Postal Service (USPS) to send the amp cross-country.  I have never 
>> had a good experience with USPS’ handling of package deliveries, 
>> particularly heavy (expensive) ones.  If you care about the shipper, 
>> have the discussion with Elecraft up front.  I should have.  Good 
>> luck all. Gary W2CS
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[Elecraft] UPS Practice? was:Re: KPA1500 Caution

2018-04-19 Thread N4ZR 
I have had good luck with USPS, but am less than thrilled with UPS.  My 
K3 has been on its way back from Watsonville and was to arrive 
yesterday, but I wasn't home when UPS came by.  Imagine my surprise to 
see that a signature was required, and that they will try again today, 
but with no indication of when or what will happen if I miss them today.


73, Pete N4ZR
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"retail" DX cluster.

On 4/18/2018 11:02 PM, Pete Michaelis - N8TR wrote:
That's odd. I got my shipping notice Friday (ordered first day 2.5 
hours after email)
and also a UPS   tracking number which I have been using to track the 
amps progress.


73, Pete - N8TR



At 06:17 PM 4/18/2018, alapa...@w2cs.net wrote:
I’m a day-2 KPA1500 patient waiter.  I got the email 2 days ago and 
today it shipped. There’s one potential problem.  It must have been 
mentioned on this reflector and I missed it.  Elecraft used U.S. 
Postal Service (USPS) to send the amp cross-country.  I have never 
had a good experience with USPS’ handling of package deliveries, 
particularly heavy (expensive) ones.  If you care about the shipper, 
have the discussion with Elecraft up front.  I should have.  Good 
luck all. Gary W2CS

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