Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Amateur Radio Operator N5GE]

I always use USPS Priority Mail going both ways.  It's faster, less
expensive and I'm glad Elecraft uses them by default.
73


On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 22:41:09 -0400, you wrote:

>Probably USPS Priority Mail.  At least it has been my experience that
>Priority Mail is less expensive and more reliable than either UPS or
>FedEX 2-Day or surface.
>
>73,
>
>   ... Joe, W4TV
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

It was officially closed yesterday..

Eric
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> On Sep 1, 2015, at 1:30 AM, Edward R Cole  wrote:
> 
> This thread is probably just about over-
> 
> I ship using USPS Priority Mail almost exclusively.
> Small box = $5.25*
> Medium box = $11.30*
> Large box = $15.80*
> *If you pay online - a bit more if you pay at the PO
> 
> Priority Mail is 2-day delivery which translates to 3-day in Alaska (it gets 
> to the Anchorage Airport Sort Center in 2-days and is delivered by truck 
> 180mi to my PO the next day).
> But I allow up to 5-days delivery time for Priority Mail out of AK for my 
> customers.  Parcel Post takes a min of 18-days and usually 20-days.  Overnite 
> Express Letter - takes two days!
> 
> UPS/Fedex 2-day delivery for the same item in AK is about 2x to 3x as 
> expensive (of course shipping in/out of AK requires using a NASA Launch to 
> the nearest planet).  Guess what it still takes 3-days with them, too!
> 
> I ship world-wide using flat-rate International Priority Mail (even to Canada 
> which costs more than within the 50-states).
> Medium box to UK or EU is $76.50 vs $19.30 inside the US ($8 added for $500 
> insurance).  So you guys in the lower-48 got nothing to bellyache about cost 
> of shipping.
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Edward R Cole]

This thread is probably just about over-

I ship using USPS Priority Mail almost exclusively.
Small box = $5.25*
Medium box = $11.30*
Large box = $15.80*
*If you pay online - a bit more if you pay at the PO

Priority Mail is 2-day delivery which translates to 3-day in Alaska 
(it gets to the Anchorage Airport Sort Center in 2-days and is 
delivered by truck 180mi to my PO the next day).
But I allow up to 5-days delivery time for Priority Mail out of AK 
for my customers.  Parcel Post takes a min of 18-days and usually 
20-days.  Overnite Express Letter - takes two days!


UPS/Fedex 2-day delivery for the same item in AK is about 2x to 3x as 
expensive (of course shipping in/out of AK requires using a NASA 
Launch to the nearest planet).  Guess what it still takes 3-days with 
them, too!


I ship world-wide using flat-rate International Priority Mail (even 
to Canada which costs more than within the 50-states).
Medium box to UK or EU is $76.50 vs $19.30 inside the US ($8 added 
for $500 insurance).  So you guys in the lower-48 got nothing to 
bellyache about cost of shipping.


73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
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dubus...@gmail.com

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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Jim Lowman]

It seems to me that, if the calculated weight of the shipment exceeds 
the limit for First Class Mail, the option could be "grayed out" or a 
message to that effect could be displayed next to the "Shipped to you 
via:" field.  Also, when First Class Mail is the chosen option, it does 
say "Small Parts, USA ONLY, 14 Oz. Max."


Even if Elecraft contracts for web development, they certainly can press 
the developer(s) for such an option.


73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 8/31/2015 1:02 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:

Definitely not "just as easy" if the field is supposed to be a number.

The right way to code this is to eliminate First Class Mail as an option
when the weight goes over 14 oz.

Whoever wrote the shopping cart on the web site didn't really anticipate
some of the very light items that Elecraft sells.  If they don't have
source code (likely) then fixing it could be difficult.

I know, I ran a hosting company and did sites for 25 years.

That said, it seems IOTTMCO that if the shipping charge is $999, one
should explore other options.

73 -- Lynn

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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[John Flynn]

Check out USPS Flat Rate Priority. A small box is only $5.05 if you print
the label yourself. Medium box is about $15.

73,

John K4ARQ

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Barry <w...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Tnx for all the replies, including the amusing ones (of which I expected a
> few)  :-)
>
> I changed the shipping choice to USPS Prio Mail and it worked fine (about
> $12) and it said the package weighs 1.6 lbs.
>
> Yes, shipping is expensive.  Guess the little guys have to subsidize the
> Amazon.com's of the world cheap, high volume rates.
>
> Barry W2UP
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT]

Definitely not "just as easy" if the field is supposed to be a number.

The right way to code this is to eliminate First Class Mail as an option 
when the weight goes over 14 oz.


Whoever wrote the shopping cart on the web site didn't really anticipate 
some of the very light items that Elecraft sells.  If they don't have 
source code (likely) then fixing it could be difficult.


I know, I ran a hosting company and did sites for 25 years.

That said, it seems IOTTMCO that if the shipping charge is $999, one 
should explore other options.


73 -- Lynn

On 8/31/2015 5:36 AM, James Wilson wrote:

This has come up before. Wouldn't it be just as easy to program
the system to say something like "INVALID" RATHER THAN $999.00
to indicate INVALID ?

Jim - W4RKS


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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Don Wilhelm]

I have been shipping parcels with Elecraft gear in them for 11 years.  
Sometimes as many as 6 or 7 a week recently.  In all that time, I have 
only know of 3 which had gone astray, but were eventually delivered.  I 
normally use USPS Priority Mail and it is fast, reliable and 
economical.  Two or 3 day delivery to any of the 50 states.  The price 
is a little more than UPS Ground, and less than UPS 3 day.
UPS and FedEx are good too, and if you can get commercial rates, they 
are discounted, but I depend on USPS much more than UPS.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/31/2015 8:58 AM, Ray Sills wrote:

USPS Priority does a fine job.  And, insurance is available.  Only once in my 
experience did USPS have a shipping hiccup:
The package coming to me had arrived in Philadelphia (closest major city)… but 
somehow, it got sent to California, where I languished for a day or two, before 
finally coming back to Philly and ultimately to me.  BTW, this hiccup was not 
an order from Elecraft.  I still prefer USPS Priority.



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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Bob McGraw - K4TAX]

As I have done repairs over the years and thus shipped many items, I've 
found any mode of expedited shipping is more likely to get the 
merchandise to its destination with little to no damage and no items 
were actually lost.Ground freight, UPS Ground or FED X Ground, seems 
to get boxes moved and loaded and unloaded and moved and dropped and 
such many times where as expedited shipping greatly reduces handling.


As a comment from my former company, we never insured merchandise. It is 
overall less expensive in a years time to risk loosing 1 or 2 packages 
than to insure every one of them.  Besides, if the package is insured 
for say $3K that raises suspicion to handlers as to what it contains.  
With no insurance coverage, it could  be a box of books, which would 
appear to the uninformed, as of no interest.


Of note, the shipping charge for my new K3S from CA to TN was $35.35.

73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10,163

On 8/31/2015 4:01 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
I have been shipping parcels with Elecraft gear in them for 11 years.  
Sometimes as many as 6 or 7 a week recently.  In all that time, I have 
only know of 3 which had gone astray, but were eventually delivered.  
I normally use USPS Priority Mail and it is fast, reliable and 
economical.  Two or 3 day delivery to any of the 50 states.  The price 
is a little more than UPS Ground, and less than UPS 3 day.
UPS and FedEx are good too, and if you can get commercial rates, they 
are discounted, but I depend on USPS much more than UPS.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/31/2015 8:58 AM, Ray Sills wrote:
USPS Priority does a fine job.  And, insurance is available.  Only 
once in my experience did USPS have a shipping hiccup:
The package coming to me had arrived in Philadelphia (closest major 
city)… but somehow, it got sent to California, where I languished for 
a day or two, before finally coming back to Philly and ultimately to 
me.  BTW, this hiccup was not an order from Elecraft.  I still prefer 
USPS Priority.




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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Don Wilhelm]

Well, the K2, K1, KX1, K3 and KX3 are unique in that they contain 
certain options, so I believe insurance is worthwhile.  If I were a 
company shipping something that is non-configurable, and I had 
replacement stock, then you are correct that it would be less expensive 
over time to simply replace whatever was lost or strayed. But if you 
have essentially a one-of-a-kind item, insurance is a good idea.


As far as damage goes, the only time I have seen damage is when the 
article is not well packed in the box.  If it can move inside the 
packaging, there is a good chance of damage.  Think about an abrupt stop 
at the end of one of those roller package handling conveyers. That is 
when knobs or antenna jacks could come in contact with the inside of the 
packaging.  Bubble wrap and packing peanuts work well for packing, but 
those large air bags should not be used with anything having substantial 
weight.  I have seen many of those large air bags that have popped and 
allowed the contents to move after they pop.  Soft foam sheets do not 
work well either, they 'squish' too much.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/31/2015 5:15 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:


As a comment from my former company, we never insured merchandise. It 
is overall less expensive in a years time to risk loosing 1 or 2 
packages than to insure every one of them.  Besides, if the package is 
insured for say $3K that raises suspicion to handlers as to what it 
contains.  With no insurance coverage, it could  be a box of books, 
which would appear to the uninformed, as of no interest.


Of note, the shipping charge for my new K3S from CA to TN was $35.35.

73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10,163

On 8/31/2015 4:01 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
I have been shipping parcels with Elecraft gear in them for 11 
years.  Sometimes as many as 6 or 7 a week recently.  In all that 
time, I have only know of 3 which had gone astray, but were 
eventually delivered.  I normally use USPS Priority Mail and it is 
fast, reliable and economical.  Two or 3 day delivery to any of the 
50 states.  The price is a little more than UPS Ground, and less than 
UPS 3 day.
UPS and FedEx are good too, and if you can get commercial rates, they 
are discounted, but I depend on USPS much more than UPS.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/31/2015 8:58 AM, Ray Sills wrote:
USPS Priority does a fine job.  And, insurance is available.  Only 
once in my experience did USPS have a shipping hiccup:
The package coming to me had arrived in Philadelphia (closest major 
city)… but somehow, it got sent to California, where I languished 
for a day or two, before finally coming back to Philly and 
ultimately to me.  BTW, this hiccup was not an order from Elecraft.  
I still prefer USPS Priority.




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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Michael Eberle]

It says right there in on the Shopping Cart screen that the KSUN3AUPG is 
0.80 lbs, or if you have 2 in the cart, 1.60 lbs which is 12.8 oz for 
one or 25.6 ounces for two.


On 8/31/2015 6:37 AM, Nr4c wrote:

I really don't think the two boards exceed 4 oz much less 14. He left a field 
blank on the info screen. Go back and make a selection for EVERY field and you 
should be fine. The form does not make assumptions.

Sent from my iPhone
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On Aug 31, 2015, at 1:50 AM, Bob  wrote:

Hi Barry,

The 2 boards most likely exceed the 14 oz limit.



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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Fred Jensen]

Yes, definitely.  I almost never buy anything on eBay, but did purchase 
a Bird Thru-Line with several slugs a few years ago.  It arrived with 
the meter destroyed [pretty hard to destroy the rest of a Thru-Line 
:-)].  It had been packed with two of the double large air bags, 3 of 
the 4 bags were deflated when I opened the package. No relief from the 
seller, I guess it's caveat emptor all over again.


73,

Fred K6DGW
Sparks NV



On 8/31/2015 3:33 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
Bubble wrap and packing peanuts work well for packing, but those large 
air bags should not be used with anything having substantial weight.  
I have seen many of those large air bags that have popped and allowed 
the contents to move after they pop.  Soft foam sheets do not work 
well either, they 'squish' too much.


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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Alan]

I bought a mic mixer on Ebay that arrived packed with no padding 
whatsoever.  He had basically just wrapped cardboard around the chassis, 
taped it up, and stuck a mailing label on it.


The damage was surprisingly small considering, but of course the seller 
didn't even reply when I contacted him about it.


That's one reason I rarely buy anything on Ebay.  I've had much better 
luck with Amazon.


Alan N1AL


On 08/31/2015 04:14 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

Yes, definitely.  I almost never buy anything on eBay, but did purchase
a Bird Thru-Line with several slugs a few years ago.  It arrived with
the meter destroyed [pretty hard to destroy the rest of a Thru-Line
:-)].  It had been packed with two of the double large air bags, 3 of
the 4 bags were deflated when I opened the package. No relief from the
seller, I guess it's caveat emptor all over again.

73,

Fred K6DGW
Sparks NV



On 8/31/2015 3:33 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Bubble wrap and packing peanuts work well for packing, but those large
air bags should not be used with anything having substantial weight. I
have seen many of those large air bags that have popped and allowed
the contents to move after they pop.  Soft foam sheets do not work
well either, they 'squish' too much.


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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Let's end the thread for now, as it looks like its been pretty much beaten to 
death. Lots of posts!  Time to give the rest of our readers an email overload 
break ;-)

73,
Eric
Moderator etc.
elecraft.com
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> On Aug 31, 2015, at 4:36 PM, Alan  wrote:
> 
> I bought a mic mixer on Ebay that arrived packed with no padding whatsoever.  
> He had basically just wrapped cardboard around the chassis, taped it up, and 
> stuck a mailing label on it.
> 
> The damage was surprisingly small considering, but of course the seller 
> didn't even reply when I contacted him about it.
> 
> That's one reason I rarely buy anything on Ebay.  I've had much better luck 
> with Amazon.
> 
> Alan N1AL
> 
> 
>> On 08/31/2015 04:14 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>> Yes, definitely.  I almost never buy anything on eBay, but did purchase
>> a Bird Thru-Line with several slugs a few years ago.  It arrived with
>> the meter destroyed [pretty hard to destroy the rest of a Thru-Line
>> :-)].  It had been packed with two of the double large air bags, 3 of
>> the 4 bags were deflated when I opened the package. No relief from the
>> seller, I guess it's caveat emptor all over again.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Fred K6DGW
>> Sparks NV
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8/31/2015 3:33 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>>> Bubble wrap and packing peanuts work well for packing, but those large
>>> air bags should not be used with anything having substantial weight. I
>>> have seen many of those large air bags that have popped and allowed
>>> the contents to move after they pop.  Soft foam sheets do not work
>>> well either, they 'squish' too much.
>> 
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[Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[James Wilson]

All this talk about shipping cost and damage reminds
me how great it is to order Elecraft KITS. They're
well packed and we get the fun of assembly.

Shipping is expensive no matter who is the carrier.

Jim - W4RKS
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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Mike VE3YF]

Barry:

FWIW, it cost me $47.00 to have 4 x boards shipped to me up here in 
Ontario. I do believe that I used USPS Priority Shipping.



73 De Mike
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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Nr4c]

I really don't think the two boards exceed 4 oz much less 14. He left a field 
blank on the info screen. Go back and make a selection for EVERY field and you 
should be fine. The form does not make assumptions. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Aug 31, 2015, at 1:50 AM, Bob  wrote:
> 
> Hi Barry,
> 
>The 2 boards most likely exceed the 14 oz limit.  If you 
> really want 1st class mail used. split the order as 2 separate boards.  That 
> may still be cheaper than UPS and quicker too.  Don't know about CO .but 
> cross country to NJ It seems to me that USPS pretty consistently beats UPS 
> with 1st class or Priority mail. on a price and performance basis.
> 
> YMMV.
> 
> 73,
> Bob
> K2TK  ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR
> 
> 
>> On 8/30/2015 10:29 PM, Barry wrote:
>> I want to order 2 KSYN3AUPG synthesizer upgrade boards for my K3.  I'm
>> presented with a myriad of shipping choices, including USPS First Class.  It
>> says Dirst Class only for orders up to 14 oz, but no weight is listed for
>> the board.  Then, the shopping cart lists the USPS First Class s/h cost as
>> $999.00 :-)
>> 
>> Can 2 boards be shipped First Class or are they greater than 14 oz with
>> packaging?
>> If so, what is the most cost-effective shipping method within the US (CA to
>> CO, specifically)?
>> 
>> Tnx,
>> Barry W2UP
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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Don Wilhelm]

You are forgetting to add the weight of the shipping box and any packing 
material.

Yes, that is the weight of the raw board.
Add 2 or 3 ounces for the packaging and the total goes over 14 oz, which 
is the 1st class limit.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/31/2015 6:57 PM, Michael Eberle wrote:


It says right there in on the Shopping Cart screen that the KSUN3AUPG 
is 0.80 lbs, or if you have 2 in the cart, 1.60 lbs which is 12.8 oz 
for one or 25.6 ounces for two.


On 8/31/2015 6:37 AM, Nr4c wrote:
I really don't think the two boards exceed 4 oz much less 14. He left 
a field blank on the info screen. Go back and make a selection for 
EVERY field and you should be fine. The form does not make assumptions.




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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Ray Sills]

When I ordered my KX3 kit several years ago, I requested USPS Priority Mail.  
The cost was around $15 (less expensive than any other shipping method), and it 
arrived (west coast to east coast) in 3 days… maybe 2, I forget.  But, it -was- 
quick.

USPS Priority does a fine job.  And, insurance is available.  Only once in my 
experience did USPS have a shipping hiccup:
The package coming to me had arrived in Philadelphia (closest major city)… but 
somehow, it got sent to California, where I languished for a day or two, before 
finally coming back to Philly and ultimately to me.  BTW, this hiccup was not 
an order from Elecraft.  I still prefer USPS Priority.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211

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[Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[James Wilson]

This has come up before. Wouldn't it be just as easy to program
the system to say something like "INVALID" RATHER THAN $999.00
to indicate INVALID ?

Jim - W4RKS
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*Sun Aug 30 22:29:08 EDT 2015*


   - I want to order 2 KSYN3AUPG synthesizer upgrade boards for my K3.
I'm presented
   with a myriad of shipping choices, including USPS First Class. It says
   First Class only for orders up to 14 oz, but no weight is listed for the
   board. Then, the shopping cart lists the USPS First Class s/h cost
as $999.00
   :-)
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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Charlie T, K3ICH]

Bringing this discussion back down to Earth, 

I ship a lot of moderate weight (up to 5 pound) items and I can tell you that 
shipping costs have escalated so much over the past few years that I'm sure 
many people have limited their internet shopping.  This is especially true from 
my experience with international sales.  As an example, I make a variety of 
spun aluminum knob inlays for "boatanchor" radios that range in price from $1 
to $4 and weigh practically nothing.  The cheapest I can ship a tiny inlay to 
Europe in  * a box, is $7.10.  Needless to say, bundling for overseas shipments 
is the only practical way.

If your first impression is that Elecraft's shipping is a tad on the high side, 
just remember, the high dollar items are insured for full value.   That's an 
added $20 for a $2k item.  That plus the very real high cost for any service 
moves that amount up quite a bit.

Admittedly, loss or damage to a relatively small package is low, but do you 
really want to take that chance?

73, Charlie k3ICH


* Yes, I could put it in a simple envelope for $1.35, but the chance of damage 
is close to 100%.  I use a fold-up "cassette mailer" box that you could stand 
on resulting in a damage percentage under 1%.  My only concern is just how long 
a cassette mailer box is going to be sold.  Does anybody still use cassettes, 
or much less,  send them through the mail?Domestic USPS on that box has 
gone from 59¢ to $2.54 in about ten years.   Int'l, from a couple bucks to 
$7.10 in the same time frame.





-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ray Sills
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 8:59 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

When I ordered my KX3 kit several years ago, I requested USPS Priority Mail.  
The cost was around $15 (less expensive than any other shipping method), and it 
arrived (west coast to east coast) in 3 days… maybe 2, I forget.  But, it -was- 
quick.

USPS Priority does a fine job.  And, insurance is available.  Only once in my 
experience did USPS have a shipping hiccup:
The package coming to me had arrived in Philadelphia (closest major city)… but 
somehow, it got sent to California, where I languished for a day or two, before 
finally coming back to Philly and ultimately to me.  BTW, this hiccup was not 
an order from Elecraft.  I still prefer USPS Priority.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211



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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Michael Goins]

I use USPS most of the time, UPS very occasionally. Had to use Fedex
recently to ship the manuscript for a novel to my editor. One small box
containing 400 sheets of paper. Almost a hundred dollars to New York to get
there overnight and it barely made it there on time. Never again.

Mike, k5wmg
Bella-Green Bed & Breakfast
www.bella-green.com


On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 8:28 AM, Charlie T, K3ICH <pin...@erols.com> wrote:

> Bringing this discussion back down to Earth,
>
> I ship a lot of moderate weight (up to 5 pound) items and I can tell you
> that shipping costs have escalated so much over the past few years that I'm
> sure many people have limited their internet shopping.  This is especially
> true from my experience with international sales.  As an example, I make a
> variety of spun aluminum knob inlays for "boatanchor" radios that range in
> price from $1 to $4 and weigh practically nothing.  The cheapest I can ship
> a tiny inlay to Europe in  * a box, is $7.10.  Needless to say, bundling
> for overseas shipments is the only practical way.
>
> If your first impression is that Elecraft's shipping is a tad on the high
> side, just remember, the high dollar items are insured for full value.
>  That's an added $20 for a $2k item.  That plus the very real high cost for
> any service moves that amount up quite a bit.
>
> Admittedly, loss or damage to a relatively small package is low, but do
> you really want to take that chance?
>
> 73, Charlie k3ICH
>
>
> * Yes, I could put it in a simple envelope for $1.35, but the chance of
> damage is close to 100%.  I use a fold-up "cassette mailer" box that you
> could stand on resulting in a damage percentage under 1%.  My only concern
> is just how long a cassette mailer box is going to be sold.  Does anybody
> still use cassettes, or much less,  send them through the mail?Domestic
> USPS on that box has gone from 59¢ to $2.54 in about ten years.   Int'l,
> from a couple bucks to $7.10 in the same time frame.
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ray
> Sills
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 8:59 AM
> To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!
>
> When I ordered my KX3 kit several years ago, I requested USPS Priority
> Mail.  The cost was around $15 (less expensive than any other shipping
> method), and it arrived (west coast to east coast) in 3 days… maybe 2, I
> forget.  But, it -was- quick.
>
> USPS Priority does a fine job.  And, insurance is available.  Only once in
> my experience did USPS have a shipping hiccup:
> The package coming to me had arrived in Philadelphia (closest major city)…
> but somehow, it got sent to California, where I languished for a day or
> two, before finally coming back to Philly and ultimately to me.  BTW, this
> hiccup was not an order from Elecraft.  I still prefer USPS Priority.
>
> 73 de Ray
> K2ULR
> KX3 #211
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Barry]

Tnx for all the replies, including the amusing ones (of which I expected a
few)  :-)

I changed the shipping choice to USPS Prio Mail and it worked fine (about
$12) and it said the package weighs 1.6 lbs.

Yes, shipping is expensive.  Guess the little guys have to subsidize the
Amazon.com's of the world cheap, high volume rates.

Barry W2UP



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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[GRANT YOUNGMAN]

The $999 tells you you can’t ship USPS.  Pick UPS.

Grant NQ5T


 On Aug 30, 2015, at 9:29 PM, Barry w...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I want to order 2 KSYN3AUPG synthesizer upgrade boards for my K3.  I'm
 presented with a myriad of shipping choices, including USPS First Class.  It
 says Dirst Class only for orders up to 14 oz, but no weight is listed for
 the board.  Then, the shopping cart lists the USPS First Class s/h cost as
 $999.00 :-)
 
 Can 2 boards be shipped First Class or are they greater than 14 oz with
 packaging?

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[Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Barry]

I want to order 2 KSYN3AUPG synthesizer upgrade boards for my K3.  I'm
presented with a myriad of shipping choices, including USPS First Class.  It
says Dirst Class only for orders up to 14 oz, but no weight is listed for
the board.  Then, the shopping cart lists the USPS First Class s/h cost as
$999.00 :-)

Can 2 boards be shipped First Class or are they greater than 14 oz with
packaging?
If so, what is the most cost-effective shipping method within the US (CA to
CO, specifically)?

Tnx,
Barry W2UP





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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Charlie T, K3ICH]

You apparently clicked on the box for Personal
overnight delivery, hand carried in an airplane
seat by at least two of the company's top
executives.

Yeah, THAT method does get a little pricey.

73, Charlie k3ICH



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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On
Behalf Of Barry
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 10:29 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot
for shipping!

I want to order 2 KSYN3AUPG synthesizer upgrade
boards for my K3.  I'm presented with a myriad of
shipping choices, including USPS First Class.  It
says Dirst Class only for orders up to 14 oz, but
no weight is listed for the board.  Then, the
shopping cart lists the USPS First Class s/h cost
as
$999.00 :-)

Can 2 boards be shipped First Class or are they
greater than 14 oz with packaging?
If so, what is the most cost-effective shipping
method within the US (CA to CO, specifically)?

Tnx,
Barry W2UP




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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

Can 2 boards be shipped First Class or are they greater than 14 oz
with packaging?


They are greater than 14 oz.


If so, what is the most cost-effective shipping method within the US

 (CA to CO, specifically)?

Probably USPS Priority Mail.  At least it has been my experience that
Priority Mail is less expensive and more reliable than either UPS or
FedEX 2-Day or surface.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 8/30/2015 10:29 PM, Barry wrote:

I want to order 2 KSYN3AUPG synthesizer upgrade boards for my K3.  I'm
presented with a myriad of shipping choices, including USPS First Class.  It
says Dirst Class only for orders up to 14 oz, but no weight is listed for
the board.  Then, the shopping cart lists the USPS First Class s/h cost as
$999.00 :-)

Can 2 boards be shipped First Class or are they greater than 14 oz with
packaging?
If so, what is the most cost-effective shipping method within the US (CA to
CO, specifically)?

Tnx,
Barry W2UP





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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Don Wilhelm]

Barry,

Choose another shipping method.  USPS Priority Mail or UPS should work.
If you do not choose a valid shipping method, the shipping charge will 
be listed as $999.00 - that is artificial, but does tell you that the 
shipping method chosen is not valid.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/30/2015 10:29 PM, Barry wrote:

I want to order 2 KSYN3AUPG synthesizer upgrade boards for my K3.  I'm
presented with a myriad of shipping choices, including USPS First Class.  It
says Dirst Class only for orders up to 14 oz, but no weight is listed for
the board.  Then, the shopping cart lists the USPS First Class s/h cost as
$999.00 :-)




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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[David Cole]

That is Elecraft's way of reminding you that you have not selected an
option yet...  :)
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On Sun, 2015-08-30 at 19:29 -0700, Barry wrote:
 I want to order 2 KSYN3AUPG synthesizer upgrade boards for my K3.  I'm
 presented with a myriad of shipping choices, including USPS First Class.  It
 says Dirst Class only for orders up to 14 oz, but no weight is listed for
 the board.  Then, the shopping cart lists the USPS First Class s/h cost as
 $999.00 :-)
 
 Can 2 boards be shipped First Class or are they greater than 14 oz with
 packaging?
 If so, what is the most cost-effective shipping method within the US (CA to
 CO, specifically)?
 
 Tnx,
 Barry W2UP
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Wow, Elecraft charges a lot for shipping!

[Bob]

Hi Barry,

The 2 boards most likely exceed the 14 oz limit.  If you really 
want 1st class mail used. split the order as 2 separate boards.  That may still 
be cheaper than UPS and quicker too.  Don't know about CO .but cross country to 
NJ It seems to me that USPS pretty consistently beats UPS with 1st class or 
Priority mail. on a price and performance basis.


YMMV.

73,
Bob
K2TK  ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR


On 8/30/2015 10:29 PM, Barry wrote:

I want to order 2 KSYN3AUPG synthesizer upgrade boards for my K3.  I'm
presented with a myriad of shipping choices, including USPS First Class.  It
says Dirst Class only for orders up to 14 oz, but no weight is listed for
the board.  Then, the shopping cart lists the USPS First Class s/h cost as
$999.00 :-)

Can 2 boards be shipped First Class or are they greater than 14 oz with
packaging?
If so, what is the most cost-effective shipping method within the US (CA to
CO, specifically)?

Tnx,
Barry W2UP




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