Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's 1-Year Limited K3 Warranty?
I have been friends with previous employees/manager of the ham gear stores and all is not what it seems to the user community. They make very little markup today on rigs, they make their money on the small things (cables, plugs, books, etc) so their profit incentive is to get you into their store to look at rigs and then buy the accessories. Who doesn't think that the K3 would draw a crowd? The second dynamic is where Yaesu and Icom are headed. They seem to be invested in the 10K rigs (FTDX9000, IC7800). The Yaesu rig isn't even sold at the stores, you order it at the store and then its made and shipped from Yaesu. Not many (any?) stores can afford to stock these for their sales floor so they do not even get you into the store to buy other stuff. I do not see the ham chain stores pushing these radios much (they don't have any real experience with them unless they own them). So the FT2000, IC-7000, k3 rig price class is their premium rig market. I think they would enjoy having them all stocked. All in all its a worthwhile experiment (and it wouldn't either hurt the Elecraft image nor the buyer). Neal k3nc On 7/30/07, Rick Dettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That "first consumer purchase" wording is informative - it could > > indicate that sometime in the future I may be able to buy a new Elecraft > > product over the counter at HRO and other ham gear stores. > > > > I really don't know if Elecraft is looking at the sales outlet > > possibility seriously, but if it occurs, the warranty now covers it. > > > > 73, > > Don W3FPR > = > > I was thinking that HRO couldn't be happy about the K3 as there will be > little reason to buy any other rig. But if they can sell them, that is > another matter. I don't know if there is enough markup in the K3 to > support second party retail sales. It seems like we are getting alot of > radio for the dollar. > 73 > Rick Dettinger > K7MW > > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's 1-Year Limited K3 Warranty?
> That "first consumer purchase" wording is informative - it could > indicate that sometime in the future I may be able to buy a new Elecraft > product over the counter at HRO and other ham gear stores. > > I really don't know if Elecraft is looking at the sales outlet > possibility seriously, but if it occurs, the warranty now covers it. > > 73, > Don W3FPR = I was thinking that HRO couldn't be happy about the K3 as there will be little reason to buy any other rig. But if they can sell them, that is another matter. I don't know if there is enough markup in the K3 to support second party retail sales. It seems like we are getting alot of radio for the dollar. 73 Rick Dettinger K7MW ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's 1-Year Limited K3 Warranty?
Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: Fixed! We always intended this to reflect the date we ship to a customer. The new wording is: **" This warranty is effective as of the date of first consumer purchase (or if shipped from factory, date product is shipped to customer)." 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft That "first consumer purchase" wording is informative - it could indicate that sometime in the future I may be able to buy a new Elecraft product over the counter at HRO and other ham gear stores. I really don't know if Elecraft is looking at the sales outlet possibility seriously, but if it occurs, the warranty now covers it. 73, Don W3FPR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft's 1-Year Limited K3 Warranty?
Eric - Thanks for clarifying the "warranty" thing, for our purchases of the future K3. I figured it was a typo. to unknown Lost no sleep, not a big deal - just a normal thing us customer types, ask. I'm not into mojo - rather a guy who has been burned in more than a few transactions over the years %50 to Water System guy, cancelled order for "magic water treatment ozone" thingy - never got $50 back. (1985) $2700 lost, for co-sign 3 of us did, for co-worker, who's nephew had brain cancer. Never got our $2700 back. (1986) $700 lost, for "like new Chevy Caprice", that instead of 100K miles, had 300K well-hidden miles. I paid for motor. (1973) Shoe salesman sold his car. $550 lost, for "new motor" we had to put in ourselves, into our pickup truck we loaned to a nice couple we barely knew, for church activities - they burnt motor out, and busted block in their moving activities. Returned truck to us " sorry about that". (1991) $3700 Insurance Claim we had to cover on our car, for "commercial park tent" blowing onto our car. ". we have no insurance like that". (July 2007) $100 lost for repairing "clutch" in motorscooter, bought from a good friend, for his like-new no-problems never used Honda Scooter. Bought scooter, he's got mojo. (May 2007) I tend to give the other guy, the break. And normally had been always a trusting soul. These dissapointments happen, and to some they are not seen, from their position in the sand. It WILL happen to the best of us! ...good luck Fred, de N3CSY Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft's 1-Year Limited K3 Warranty?
Please - a raise of hands of those that were losing sleep over this. Anyone - anyone? ;-) Personally, I wound each one of the toroids in both of my K2 kits 12 times. I know this because there is double the amount of magnet wire you need in the box and I got free red and green wire from them 5 times. Yes, I exaggerate, but four times - honest. I sent back a front panel because I didn't like the paint job and the first manual because the binder put some of the pages in wrong. All that was fixed for free, immediately, and without regard to the purchase date. Hehe - of all the challenges I had with the K2 and accessories - getting help, even on outrageous requests has been the least of my concern. But thanks to Eric - this will reassure the newbies to the den of mojo. ==== [Elecraft] Elecraft's 1-Year Limited K3 Warranty? Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft eric at elecraft.com Sun Jul 29 19:08:29 EDT 2007 Fixed! We always intended this to reflect the date we ship to a customer. The new wording is: **" This warranty is effective as of the date of first consumer purchase (or if shipped from factory, date product is shipped to customer)." 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's 1-Year Limited K3 Warranty?
Fixed! We always intended this to reflect the date we ship to a customer. The new wording is: **" This warranty is effective as of the date of first consumer purchase (or if shipped from factory, date product is shipped to customer)." 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft Tom Hammond wrote: Fred: Don't worry, pal... they'll make it 'right'.. Tom Hammond N0SS At 09:39 07/27/2007, Fred (FL) wrote: I suggest that Elecraft START their K3 WARRANTY, at shipment date. Wording on Elecraft site, talks about order-date. But with the initial waiting periods, and now another 4-week delay in shipments - it makes much more sense, to start our K3 rig warranties, from the day the units ship. I realize Elecraft has a great customer satisfaction program - but it just makes sense to date our K3 Warranties, from date Elecraft actually shipped it to us. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's 1-Year Limited K3 Warranty?
"Warranty" isn't an issue for me, given Elecraft's reputation. As others have said in one way or another ... there aren't many (any?) manufacturers/dealers that we'd stand in line to say, "Here, please take my money and ship when you can." (:-)) 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's 1-Year Limited K3 Warranty?
Fred: Don't worry, pal... they'll make it 'right'.. Tom Hammond N0SS At 09:39 07/27/2007, Fred (FL) wrote: I suggest that Elecraft START their K3 WARRANTY, at shipment date. Wording on Elecraft site, talks about order-date. But with the initial waiting periods, and now another 4-week delay in shipments - it makes much more sense, to start our K3 rig warranties, from the day the units ship. I realize Elecraft has a great customer satisfaction program - but it just makes sense to date our K3 Warranties, from date Elecraft actually shipped it to us. Fred, N3CSY, NY/FL . snowbird, a'waiting Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft's 1-Year Limited K3 Warranty?
I suggest that Elecraft START their K3 WARRANTY, at shipment date. Wording on Elecraft site, talks about order-date. But with the initial waiting periods, and now another 4-week delay in shipments - it makes much more sense, to start our K3 rig warranties, from the day the units ship. I realize Elecraft has a great customer satisfaction program - but it just makes sense to date our K3 Warranties, from date Elecraft actually shipped it to us. Fred, N3CSY, NY/FL . snowbird, a'waiting Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
