[Elecraft] Elecraft - Full Line Manufacturer

2008-03-17 Thread Lee Buller


Well, now that I have got your attention with the subject line.

The recent threads on amplifiers has been interesting since I am looking at 
adding an additional one to my station.

I know the Elecraft people are very busy with the K3 roll out now, but with the 
advent of power transistors capable of delivering adequate power, I would like 
to suggest that Elecraft look at developing their amplifier again.  Whoa 
nowhold the phone.

I know they are busyand I am willing to waitbut it seems that the day 
of the transistor power amp is here and the players right now are IC, Y, 
Ameritron, and THP.  I am not sure I want to shell out 5500 to 6500 bucks for 
one of these amps that can run SO2Rbut.

Could there be a middle ground where a KW SS amp can come in at an affordable 
price...say below 1500 to 2000 bucks?  Little do I know about cost accounting.  
Just asking questions...and making conversation.

It seems the market is growing for this type of amp.

Lee - K0WA



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft - Full Line Manufacturer

2008-03-17 Thread Bill W5WVO

Lee Buller wrote:


I know they are busyand I am willing to waitbut it seems that
the day of the transistor power amp is here and the players right now
are IC, Y, Ameritron, and THP.


Don't forget TE Systems. IMO the best available solid-state VHF/UHF amps.


Could there be a middle ground where a KW SS amp can come in at an
affordable price...say below 1500 to 2000 bucks?


That's exactly what I'm looking for -- a bare-bones, no-frills solid-state amp 
with built-in PS. Being a VHF guy, I'd love to see full legal limit amps for 
6m and 2m at a reasonable price point.


I agree with you, Lee, I think there is potentially a big market starting to 
come into being for lower-priced solid state amplifiers.


Bill W5WVO


 Little do I know

about cost accounting.  Just asking questions...and making
conversation.

It seems the market is growing for this type of amp.

Lee - K0WA



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you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it.
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft - Full Line Manufacturer

2008-03-17 Thread Jerry Keller (K3BZ)
I agree about the market for a bullet-proof solid state legal limit 
amplifier that will work seamlessly with the radio... like the ICOM PW-1 
does now with the Pro-series. My Pro3 and PW-1 are so well matched it's like 
having a KW transceiver.  I suspect Elecraft could do something like that 
with a legal limit amp partner for the K3 in fact, I would predict they 
will. It's the logical thing to do... when the time is right.

73, Jerry K3BZ

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Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft - Full Line Manufacturer




Well, now that I have got your attention with the subject line.

The recent threads on amplifiers has been interesting since I am looking at 
adding an additional one to my station.


I know the Elecraft people are very busy with the K3 roll out now, but with 
the advent of power transistors capable of delivering adequate power, I 
would like to suggest that Elecraft look at developing their amplifier 
again.  Whoa nowhold the phone.


I know they are busyand I am willing to waitbut it seems that the 
day of the transistor power amp is here and the players right now are IC, Y, 
Ameritron, and THP.  I am not sure I want to shell out 5500 to 6500 bucks 
for one of these amps that can run SO2Rbut.


Could there be a middle ground where a KW SS amp can come in at an 
affordable price...say below 1500 to 2000 bucks?  Little do I know about 
cost accounting.  Just asking questions...and making conversation.


It seems the market is growing for this type of amp.

Lee - K0WA



In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply.  If you 
don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it.  If you 
can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common 
Sense.  Is Common Sense divine?

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft - Full Line Manufacturer

2008-03-17 Thread Vic K2VCO

Lee Buller wrote:


Could there be a middle ground where a KW SS amp can come in at an
affordable price...say below 1500 to 2000 bucks? 


I suspect this is hard to do. Although a SS amplifier itself is simple, 
by the time you get the power supply, the protective circuitry, the 
pretty-much mandatory antenna tuner, etc., the price climbs.


I have another idea. Personally, I don't want (another) KW+ amplifier. 
Too big, too much money, and too much RFI potential (I know, it's not my 
fault, but I still hate those phone calls).


But an extra 6 dB would definitely make a difference in pileups and 
marginal conditions.


What I want to see is a 400-watt KPA400 to *replace* the KPA3 100-watt 
amp in the K3.


It would require beefing up the KAT3 and possibly the heatsink and fans. 
It would be best to run it on 48v or so; that would give better IMD 
performance on SSB and make the current draw more reasonable. Possibly 
Elecraft could also sell a 12/48v power supply. It would also be 
possible to add a class-A mode for SSB for even cleaner signals.


The main thing is that I think this could fit in the existing K3 
package, which would make it *very* appealing.

--
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft - Full Line Manufacturer

2008-03-17 Thread Richard Thorne

I agree with Vic:

An amp capable of 300 to 400 watts, 160m through 6m, would be nice.  
I've been running my current station with a 200 watt rig with great 
success. I have a K3 on order and I'm looking at amplifiers to go with 
it.  Solid state is a must for auto band switching.


Tokyo High Power has come out with a new one, 300 to 400 watts and 
requires 35 amps at 13.8v.  Unfortunately it doesn't cover 160 or 6.  A 
matching Elecraft would be preferred.


Rich - N5ZC

Vic K2VCO wrote:

Lee Buller wrote:


Could there be a middle ground where a KW SS amp can come in at an
affordable price...say below 1500 to 2000 bucks? 


I suspect this is hard to do. Although a SS amplifier itself is 
simple, by the time you get the power supply, the protective 
circuitry, the pretty-much mandatory antenna tuner, etc., the price 
climbs.


I have another idea. Personally, I don't want (another) KW+ amplifier. 
Too big, too much money, and too much RFI potential (I know, it's not 
my fault, but I still hate those phone calls).


But an extra 6 dB would definitely make a difference in pileups and 
marginal conditions.


What I want to see is a 400-watt KPA400 to *replace* the KPA3 
100-watt amp in the K3.


It would require beefing up the KAT3 and possibly the heatsink and 
fans. It would be best to run it on 48v or so; that would give better 
IMD performance on SSB and make the current draw more reasonable. 
Possibly Elecraft could also sell a 12/48v power supply. It would also 
be possible to add a class-A mode for SSB for even cleaner signals.


The main thing is that I think this could fit in the existing K3 
package, which would make it *very* appealing.

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