Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-02-08 Thread Frank R. Oppedijk
Hi Gary, group, Elecraft support,

I think I have found a strong correlation between CW in SSB not 
working and the QRQ setting. Here follows:

To make CW in SSB work: set CONFIG:QRQ to OFF, power-cycle the K3.

To break CW in SSB: set CONFIG:QRQ to ON, power-cycle the K3.

73,

Frank PA4N



At 21:36 31/01/2012, Gary Hinson wrote:
>Hi Frank.
>
>I have the same problem: CW in SSB no longer works on K3#2887 running
>firmware 4.39.  I raised this on the reflector some months back and went
>around the loop changing config settings, PTT, QRQ etc.  I did manage to fix
>it temporarily by restoring the K3 firmware configs, but annoyingly it has
>packed up again since then.
>
>I *think* CW-in-SSB it might still work on some bands, not others.  At
>least, that's what I found last time I checked - I haven't checked lately.
>
>I suspect there might be a cryptic bug in the firmware (the best kind!).
>
>73
>Gary  ZL2iFB

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-02-03 Thread K7MDL
I use CW in SSB mode on VHF contest regularly.  It is a matter of
convenience.  Station is calling in SSB, and I hear them, but need to bust
through the traffic going on at the far end, especially when I am a low
power rover out in the boonies.  

I try first in SSB but soon I realize I am not going to be heard, so just
reach for the key and send a response in CW or call and listen for any
resone to me, CW or SSB.  Many operators may not even respond on CW also. 
It is convenient to be able to send CW, hear CW or SSB not fiddle with dials
at all.  An without the right CW offset you are zero beat on the other
station and he never hears you. 

Another point I did not see mentioned (or got buried) about how to make the
K3 transmit CW while listening in SSB mode while in SPLIT or when the Sub RX
it on (with or without SPLIT).  Hit B-set and put the TX VFO into CW mode. 
Now you are cross mode.  Hit REV to hear the CW side.  I do not think you
get the automatic CW offset that CW in SSB mode gets you so you have to
fiddle with the dial or XIT. In a VHF contest that takes too long,
especially as a rover in a new grid pileup. One solution is to link the VFOs
after setting your CW offset and leave it that way. 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-02-03 Thread Cady, Fred
Actually, the question is one of the exercises in the "K3 book". And the
answer is tapping the 1 key on the CW WGT config menu.
:-)
Fred



From: WILLIS COOKE [mailto:wrco...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 3:40 PM
To: Cady, Fred; Terry Schieler; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?


I don't remember the menu option Fred, but it is just an option that you
turn on or off then all you need to do is key the transmitter when you
are in SSB.  The only problem that I have is occasionally bumping the
paddles and wondering what is making all the noise.  Maybe someone will
remember how to turn it on or off.  I turned mine on a few years ago and
have never turned it off!
 
Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart



From: "Cady, Fred" 
To: WILLIS COOKE ; Terry Schieler
; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 4:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?


Here is another scenario:
"You are operating at the scene of a disaster using a low antenna and
low power while passing health-and-welfare traffic. You can hear the SSB
station on the other end but it can't hear you very well. You would like
to be able to listen on SSB and send on CW. What configuration menu item
to you use to activate this cross-mode transmission?"


Fred Cady
fcady at ieee dot org 
"The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation"
www.ke7x.com


> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-
> boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of WILLIS COOKE
> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 12:42 PM
> To: Terry Schieler; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
> 
> Terry, my understanding is that this feature is used almost
exclusively
> by DXers on the VHF bands.  I have never seen it used on the HF bands
> even though it would be legal.  It allows you to keep the receiver on
> SSB while using the transmitter on CW.  I have used it on HF to touch
> up my amplifier tuning, but on HF there is no assurance that the other
> operator is CW capable or will know what to do.  Of course there is no
> such assurance on VHF either, but it more likely that the other
> operator has encountered the technique.   I would not attempt it in an
> HF SSB pileup.
> 
> Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
> K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart
> 
> 
> 
>  




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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-02-03 Thread WILLIS COOKE
OK, I will yield on that one.  I never really tried it because I always leave 
my VOX on and just key the key when I want to send CW.
 
Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart



 From: iain macdonnell - N6ML 
To: WILLIS COOKE  
Cc: Thomas Horsten ; "Cady, Fred" ; 
"elecraft@mailman.qth.net" ; Terry Schieler 
 
Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
 
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 2:20 PM, WILLIS COOKE  wrote:
> The CW in SSB mode shifts the frequency for CW so that you can copy CW and 
> SSB without engaging the RIT.  It is a software thing, so the choice is 
> whether to engage the mode or not and when you want to send CW in the SSB 
> mode you just push the key if you are in VOX.  If you are in PTT you need to 
> also engage the PTT.

That's NOT true. If you engage PTT, you will be transmitting SSB, and
CW will not work (as has been discussed in the last couple of days).

    ~iain / N6ML



>  From: Thomas Horsten 
> To: "Cady, Fred" 
> Cc: WILLIS COOKE ; Terry Schieler 
> ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 4:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
>
>
> In that scenario, what's wrong with CW mode and setting the filter suitably 
> wide?
>
> 73, Thomas M0TRN
>
>
> On 3 February 2012 22:05, Cady, Fred  wrote:
>
> Here is another scenario:
>>"You are operating at the scene of a disaster using a low antenna and low 
>>power while passing health-and-welfare traffic. You can hear the SSB station 
>>on the other end but it can't hear you very well. You would like to be able 
>>to listen on SSB and send on CW. What configuration menu item to you use to 
>>activate this cross-mode transmission?"
>>
>>
>>Fred Cady
>>fcady at ieee dot org
>>"The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation"
>>www.ke7x.com
>>
>>
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-
>>> boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of WILLIS COOKE
>>> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 12:42 PM
>>> To: Terry Schieler; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
>>>
>>
>>> Terry, my understanding is that this feature is used almost exclusively
>>> by DXers on the VHF bands.  I have never seen it used on the HF bands
>>> even though it would be legal.  It allows you to keep the receiver on
>>> SSB while using the transmitter on CW.  I have used it on HF to touch
>>> up my amplifier tuning, but on HF there is no assurance that the other
>>> operator is CW capable or will know what to do.  Of course there is no
>>> such assurance on VHF either, but it more likely that the other
>>> operator has encountered the technique.   I would not attempt it in an
>>> HF SSB pileup.
>>>
>>> Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
>>> K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-02-03 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 2:20 PM, WILLIS COOKE  wrote:
> The CW in SSB mode shifts the frequency for CW so that you can copy CW and 
> SSB without engaging the RIT.  It is a software thing, so the choice is 
> whether to engage the mode or not and when you want to send CW in the SSB 
> mode you just push the key if you are in VOX.  If you are in PTT you need to 
> also engage the PTT.

That's NOT true. If you engage PTT, you will be transmitting SSB, and
CW will not work (as has been discussed in the last couple of days).

~iain / N6ML



>  From: Thomas Horsten 
> To: "Cady, Fred" 
> Cc: WILLIS COOKE ; Terry Schieler 
> ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 4:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
>
>
> In that scenario, what's wrong with CW mode and setting the filter suitably 
> wide?
>
> 73, Thomas M0TRN
>
>
> On 3 February 2012 22:05, Cady, Fred  wrote:
>
> Here is another scenario:
>>"You are operating at the scene of a disaster using a low antenna and low 
>>power while passing health-and-welfare traffic. You can hear the SSB station 
>>on the other end but it can't hear you very well. You would like to be able 
>>to listen on SSB and send on CW. What configuration menu item to you use to 
>>activate this cross-mode transmission?"
>>
>>
>>Fred Cady
>>fcady at ieee dot org
>>"The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation"
>>www.ke7x.com
>>
>>
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-
>>> boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of WILLIS COOKE
>>> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 12:42 PM
>>> To: Terry Schieler; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
>>>
>>
>>> Terry, my understanding is that this feature is used almost exclusively
>>> by DXers on the VHF bands.  I have never seen it used on the HF bands
>>> even though it would be legal.  It allows you to keep the receiver on
>>> SSB while using the transmitter on CW.  I have used it on HF to touch
>>> up my amplifier tuning, but on HF there is no assurance that the other
>>> operator is CW capable or will know what to do.  Of course there is no
>>> such assurance on VHF either, but it more likely that the other
>>> operator has encountered the technique.   I would not attempt it in an
>>> HF SSB pileup.
>>>
>>> Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
>>> K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-02-03 Thread WILLIS COOKE
I don't remember the menu option Fred, but it is just an option that you turn 
on or off then all you need to do is key the transmitter when you are in SSB.  
The only problem that I have is occasionally bumping the paddles and wondering 
what is making all the noise.  Maybe someone will remember how to turn it on or 
off.  I turned mine on a few years ago and have never turned it off!
 
Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart



 From: "Cady, Fred" 
To: WILLIS COOKE ; Terry Schieler 
; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 4:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
 
Here is another scenario:
"You are operating at the scene of a disaster using a low antenna and low power 
while passing health-and-welfare traffic. You can hear the SSB station on the 
other end but it can't hear you very well. You would like to be able to listen 
on SSB and send on CW. What configuration menu item to you use to activate this 
cross-mode transmission?"


Fred Cady
fcady at ieee dot org 
"The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation"
www.ke7x.com


> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-
> boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of WILLIS COOKE
> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 12:42 PM
> To: Terry Schieler; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
> 
> Terry, my understanding is that this feature is used almost exclusively
> by DXers on the VHF bands.  I have never seen it used on the HF bands
> even though it would be legal.  It allows you to keep the receiver on
> SSB while using the transmitter on CW.  I have used it on HF to touch
> up my amplifier tuning, but on HF there is no assurance that the other
> operator is CW capable or will know what to do.  Of course there is no
> such assurance on VHF either, but it more likely that the other
> operator has encountered the technique.   I would not attempt it in an
> HF SSB pileup.
> 
> Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
> K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart
> 
> 
> 
>  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-02-03 Thread WILLIS COOKE
The CW in SSB mode shifts the frequency for CW so that you can copy CW and SSB 
without engaging the RIT.  It is a software thing, so the choice is whether to 
engage the mode or not and when you want to send CW in the SSB mode you just 
push the key if you are in VOX.  If you are in PTT you need to also engage the 
PTT.   So, it is a no cost option if you have a K3.
 
Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart



 From: Thomas Horsten 
To: "Cady, Fred"  
Cc: WILLIS COOKE ; Terry Schieler 
; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
 

In that scenario, what's wrong with CW mode and setting the filter suitably 
wide?

73, Thomas M0TRN


On 3 February 2012 22:05, Cady, Fred  wrote:

Here is another scenario:
>"You are operating at the scene of a disaster using a low antenna and low 
>power while passing health-and-welfare traffic. You can hear the SSB station 
>on the other end but it can't hear you very well. You would like to be able to 
>listen on SSB and send on CW. What configuration menu item to you use to 
>activate this cross-mode transmission?"
>
>
>Fred Cady
>fcady at ieee dot org
>"The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation"
>www.ke7x.com
>
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-
>> boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of WILLIS COOKE
>> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 12:42 PM
>> To: Terry Schieler; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
>>
>
>> Terry, my understanding is that this feature is used almost exclusively
>> by DXers on the VHF bands.  I have never seen it used on the HF bands
>> even though it would be legal.  It allows you to keep the receiver on
>> SSB while using the transmitter on CW.  I have used it on HF to touch
>> up my amplifier tuning, but on HF there is no assurance that the other
>> operator is CW capable or will know what to do.  Of course there is no
>> such assurance on VHF either, but it more likely that the other
>> operator has encountered the technique.   I would not attempt it in an
>> HF SSB pileup.
>>
>> Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
>> K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-02-03 Thread Thomas Horsten
In that scenario, what's wrong with CW mode and setting the filter suitably
wide?

73, Thomas M0TRN

On 3 February 2012 22:05, Cady, Fred  wrote:

> Here is another scenario:
> "You are operating at the scene of a disaster using a low antenna and low
> power while passing health-and-welfare traffic. You can hear the SSB
> station on the other end but it can't hear you very well. You would like to
> be able to listen on SSB and send on CW. What configuration menu item to
> you use to activate this cross-mode transmission?"
>
>
> Fred Cady
> fcady at ieee dot org
> "The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation"
> www.ke7x.com
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-
> > boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of WILLIS COOKE
> > Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 12:42 PM
> > To: Terry Schieler; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
> >
> > Terry, my understanding is that this feature is used almost exclusively
> > by DXers on the VHF bands.  I have never seen it used on the HF bands
> > even though it would be legal.  It allows you to keep the receiver on
> > SSB while using the transmitter on CW.  I have used it on HF to touch
> > up my amplifier tuning, but on HF there is no assurance that the other
> > operator is CW capable or will know what to do.  Of course there is no
> > such assurance on VHF either, but it more likely that the other
> > operator has encountered the technique.   I would not attempt it in an
> > HF SSB pileup.
> >
> > Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
> > K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart
> >
> >
> > 
> >
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-02-03 Thread Cady, Fred
Here is another scenario:
"You are operating at the scene of a disaster using a low antenna and low power 
while passing health-and-welfare traffic. You can hear the SSB station on the 
other end but it can't hear you very well. You would like to be able to listen 
on SSB and send on CW. What configuration menu item to you use to activate this 
cross-mode transmission?"


Fred Cady
fcady at ieee dot org 
"The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation"
www.ke7x.com


> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-
> boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of WILLIS COOKE
> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 12:42 PM
> To: Terry Schieler; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
> 
> Terry, my understanding is that this feature is used almost exclusively
> by DXers on the VHF bands.  I have never seen it used on the HF bands
> even though it would be legal.  It allows you to keep the receiver on
> SSB while using the transmitter on CW.  I have used it on HF to touch
> up my amplifier tuning, but on HF there is no assurance that the other
> operator is CW capable or will know what to do.  Of course there is no
> such assurance on VHF either, but it more likely that the other
> operator has encountered the technique.   I would not attempt it in an
> HF SSB pileup.
> 
> Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
> K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart
> 
> 
> 
>  

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-02-03 Thread Jessie Oberreuter

On Fri, 3 Feb 2012, Terry Schieler wrote:
> What is the general use for this approach?

  When I'm wearing my VHF Contester hat, I'm /constantly/ switching 
between CW and SSB.  In these contests, CW and SSB contacts take place in 
the same band segments (here in the PNW, calling freq +/- 20KHz), and mode 
is not a factor in the scoring.  Station asymmetry is common, and paths 
can fade quickly, so cross-mode and mixed-mode contacts are regular 
occurrences.  Indeed, I've often operated whole contests cross-mode 
because when you're portable or rover, working aurora, knife-edge, and 
back-scatter through mountains and valleys, CW is the only thing that's 
going to be heard.  Pileups are rarely a problem -- just being heard well 
enough to make the contact is challenging enough :), and in this context, 
it is not considered a rude operating practice.  The K3 makes this kind of 
operating a breeze and it's my biggest reason for buying a KX3! - kb7psg



On Fri, 3 Feb 2012, Terry Schieler wrote:

> I have read this thread with great interest.  But I must say that I have 
> never done CW in SSB mode.  Can't specifically remember having heard it 
> done.  What is the general use for this approach?  Getting through when 
> SSB isn't cutting it?  That would seem obvious.  How is this odd 
> approach viewed in the amateur and DX community?  Does it not matter to 
> a SSB DX station or his pileup if I slam my call in there via CW.  I 
> doubt it is against the rules.  But what about the impact to courtesy, 
> ethical operating habits, etc?  I have had occasions where a CW 
> transmission might have snagged me a new one during a SSB operation. 
> Does it make me a lid?  Looking to be enlighten.
>
> 73,
>
> Terry, W0FM
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Stephen Prior [mailto:eastbrantw...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 3:02 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
>
> Same here, it works fine for me with latest beta.  I never use VOX on ssb.
> it's a very useful feature.
>
> 73 Stephen G4SJP
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-02-03 Thread kevinr
You can use this to check into nets where US (or at least lower 48) 
folks do not have voice privileges.  There are some Canadian and Alaskan 
nets which run SSB but welcome folks running CW from the lower 48.
Kevin.  KD5ONS

On 2/3/2012 11:41 AM, WILLIS COOKE wrote:
> Terry, my understanding is that this feature is used almost exclusively by 
> DXers on the VHF bands.  I have never seen it used on the HF bands even 
> though it would be legal.
...
>   
> Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
> K5EWJ&  Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-02-03 Thread WILLIS COOKE
Terry, my understanding is that this feature is used almost exclusively by 
DXers on the VHF bands.  I have never seen it used on the HF bands even though 
it would be legal.  It allows you to keep the receiver on SSB while using the 
transmitter on CW.  I have used it on HF to touch up my amplifier tuning, but 
on HF there is no assurance that the other operator is CW capable or will know 
what to do.  Of course there is no such assurance on VHF either, but it more 
likely that the other operator has encountered the technique.   I would not 
attempt it in an HF SSB pileup.
 
Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart



 From: Terry Schieler 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Friday, February 3, 2012 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
 
I have read this thread with great interest.  But I must say that I have never 
done CW in SSB mode.  Can't specifically remember having heard it done.  What 
is the general use for this approach?  Getting through when SSB isn't cutting 
it?  That would seem obvious.  How is this odd approach viewed in the amateur 
and DX community?  Does it not matter to a SSB DX station or his pileup if I 
slam my call in there via CW.  I doubt it is against the rules.  But what about 
the impact to courtesy, ethical operating habits, etc?  I have had occasions 
where a CW transmission might have snagged me a new one during a SSB 
operation.  Does it make me a lid?  Looking to be enlighten.

73,

Terry, W0FM

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Prior [mailto:eastbrantw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 3:02 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

Same here, it works fine for me with latest beta.  I never use VOX on ssb.
it's a very useful feature.

73 Stephen G4SJP


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-02-03 Thread Terry Schieler
I have read this thread with great interest.  But I must say that I have never 
done CW in SSB mode.  Can't specifically remember having heard it done.  What 
is the general use for this approach?  Getting through when SSB isn't cutting 
it?  That would seem obvious.  How is this odd approach viewed in the amateur 
and DX community?  Does it not matter to a SSB DX station or his pileup if I 
slam my call in there via CW.  I doubt it is against the rules.  But what about 
the impact to courtesy, ethical operating habits, etc?  I have had occasions 
where a CW transmission might have snagged me a new one during a SSB operation. 
 Does it make me a lid?  Looking to be enlighten.

73,

Terry, W0FM

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Prior [mailto:eastbrantw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 3:02 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

Same here, it works fine for me with latest beta.  I never use VOX on ssb.
it's a very useful feature.

73 Stephen G4SJP


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-02-03 Thread Stephen Prior
Same here, it works fine for me with latest beta.  I never use VOX on ssb.
it's a very useful feature.

73 Stephen G4SJP

On 3 February 2012 00:12, Sam Morgan  wrote:

> when I have CW WGHT [1] set to SSB +CW
> the K3 transmits cw when in mode ssb
> no matter whither I have vox implemented or not
> Firmware MCU 4.42  FPF 1.14  DSP 2.73
> K3 util 1.4.10.11
> K3 #4123
>
> --
> GB & 73
> K5OAI
> Sam Morgan
>
> On 2/2/2012 5:38 PM, Jan Ditzian wrote:
> > CW works in SSB mode only if Vox is on because you have not used the
> > PTT.  This is exactly parallel to the procedure for CW, where you can
> > only send without PTT by turning Vox on.
> >
> > Jan, KX2A
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-02-02 Thread Sam Morgan
when I have CW WGHT [1] set to SSB +CW
the K3 transmits cw when in mode ssb
no matter whither I have vox implemented or not
Firmware MCU 4.42  FPF 1.14  DSP 2.73
K3 util 1.4.10.11
K3 #4123

--
GB & 73
K5OAI
Sam Morgan

On 2/2/2012 5:38 PM, Jan Ditzian wrote:
> CW works in SSB mode only if Vox is on because you have not used the
> PTT.  This is exactly parallel to the procedure for CW, where you can
> only send without PTT by turning Vox on.
>
> Jan, KX2A
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-02-02 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Jan Ditzian  wrote:
> CW works in SSB mode only if Vox is on because you have not used the
> PTT.  This is exactly parallel to the procedure for CW, where you can
> only send without PTT by turning Vox on.

Nice theory, but it's not true (as far as I can see). "SSB +CW"
happens (i.e. makes RF out) for me, even if VOX is off in both modes.
If VOX is off in CW mode, I get full QSK in SSB mode. If VOX (but not
QSK) is on in CW mode, I get semi-QSK in SSB mode. The SSB VOX setting
doesn't make any difference.

It kinda seems like a bug that CW makes RF in SSB mode when VOX is off
in CW mode

~iain / N6ML
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-02-02 Thread Jan Ditzian
CW works in SSB mode only if Vox is on because you have not used the 
PTT.  This is exactly parallel to the procedure for CW, where you can 
only send without PTT by turning Vox on.

Jan, KX2A

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[Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-02-02 Thread Richard Fjeld
I can't do 6M, but I use this feature often on the other bands.  I don't use 
VOX.  I just hooked up the antenna and verified it.  Using f/w 04.36

Dick, n0ce

"One thing that disappointed me is that this very useful cross-mode feature (at 
least 
on 6m, where I do most of my operating), is available only if you are running 
VOX mode."




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[Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-02-02 Thread Edward R. Cole
Lance and Don,

That is exactly how I have my K3 configured with an external 
sequencer.  In voice the PTT keys the K3 and I take KEYOUT to key the 
sequencer.  The final stage of the sequencer defeats the INHIBIT line 
to the K3 enabling transmit.  I do not run QSK on VHF so I manually 
switch the sequencer for hand sent CW.

Of course if under sw control of WSJT (JT65) PTT is controlled via 
RTS or DTR lines in the serial interface and the radio is in DATA-A 
which uses USB.  JT65 has a CW mode, although I have not used 
it.  Instead I have a separate CW program that keys PTT and CW via 
the RS232 line.  I only use keyboard CW when running eme.

I use BAND0 line to enable my inhibit so it is not in use on 
HF/6m.  I will add 6m sequencing/inhibit via DIGOUT1.  I just 
installed a 222 transverter so I will also need to use BAND1 for 
TRN2.  Simple diode steering will enable all these to enable the 
inhibit function:
http://www.kl7uw.com/TX-INHIBIT.htm


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB Mode broken?

2012-02-01 Thread Jerry.Van
I, too, recall this being broken some time back. And I also seem to remember 
a promise to fix it. It would be quite helpful if it worked while in Split 
for users such as myself that need to tune on a Split frequency for autotune 
amps, tuners, etc.

Jerry  N8BM

CW in SSB mode generally works fine here but not if I am in split mode. 
Itseems like it used to but I cannot make it work in split mode now. 
I'mrunning FW 4.47. Any thoughts? Stan - K6VWE 

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[Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB Mode broken?

2012-01-31 Thread Stan Rowe
CW in SSB mode generally works fine here but not if I am in split mode.  It
seems like it used to but I cannot make it work in split mode now.  I'm
running FW 4.47.  Any thoughts?

 

Stan - K6VWE 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-01-31 Thread N3XX
Thanks Iain.  I do hear guys doing that on 6 once in awhile.  Also just 
tuning around on 6 in ssb mode, many times I will hear someone on cw, so I 
can see that it might be useful there also, being able to just give him a 
call instead of switching modes & retuning.

73,
Tim - N3XX

- Original Message - 
From: "iain macdonnell - N6ML" 
To: "N3XX" 
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?


For one thing, it's quite useful on 6m, where DX will often switch
back and forth between CW and SSB on the same frequency).

73,

~iain / N6ML



On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 2:11 PM, N3XX  wrote:
> I must be missing something. Can someone explain why you would want to 
> send
> CW in SSB mode?
> I did go and find the setting, changed it to SSB +CW, and it works fine
> here, using firmware 4.36.
>
> Tnx & 73,
> Tim - N3XX
>
> On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk <<mailto:fr...@qrd.nl>fr...@qrd.nl>
> wrote:
> Hi group,
> Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode,
> but it no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in
> CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my
> paddle while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm
> using firmware version 04.39.
> Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-01-31 Thread John E. Reiser
Hi Frank and All,

It may have been mentioned before, because I come late to this thread.  But, 
I have noticed the same thing while I am in SPLIT mode, not otherwise.

I hope this helps.

73,

John, W2GW


- Original Message - 
From: "N3XX" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?


> On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk <<mailto:fr...@qrd.nl>fr...@qrd.nl>
> wrote:
> Hi group,
> Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode,
> but it no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in
> CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my
> paddle while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm
> using firmware version 04.39.
> Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-01-31 Thread Robert Dorchuck W6VY
For those who say it is broken - are you by any chance in split mode?  It does 
not work in split(at least for me).  Otherwise, works fine.

Bob  W6VY

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-01-31 Thread Gary Hinson
Mmm, interesting.  

Prompted by other comments, I tested CW-in-SSB band-by-band.  Starting at
10m and working systematically down to 160m, the K3 would go into transmit
mode but produce no power out on any band.  However, after moving 'down'
from 160m to 6m, it mysteriously started working again - and now works
correctly on every band.

So, it seems that merely by changing bands and hitting the paddle, I have
cleared whatever it was that blocked the transmitter in CW-in-SSB.  How odd!

Frank (or anyone else whose CW-in-SSB doesn't work): perhaps you would try
the same thing?

It still smells of a firmware bug to me.

73
Gary  ZL2iFB

> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-
> boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of iain macdonnell - N6ML
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:17 a.m.
> To: N3XX
> Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
> 
> For one thing, it's quite useful on 6m, where DX will often switch back
and
> forth between CW and SSB on the same frequency).
> 
> 73,
> 
> ~iain / N6ML
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 2:11 PM, N3XX  wrote:
> > I must be missing something.  Can someone explain why you would want
> > to send CW in SSB mode?
> > I did go and find the setting, changed it to SSB +CW, and it works
> > fine here, using firmware 4.36.
> >
> > Tnx & 73,
> > Tim - N3XX
> >
> > On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk <<mailto:fr...@qrd.nl>fr...@qrd.nl>
> > wrote:
> > Hi group,
> > Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but it
> > no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in CONFIG:CW
> > WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle while in SSB
> > mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using firmware
> > version 04.39.
> > Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?
> >
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-01-31 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
For one thing, it's quite useful on 6m, where DX will often switch
back and forth between CW and SSB on the same frequency).

73,

~iain / N6ML



On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 2:11 PM, N3XX  wrote:
> I must be missing something.  Can someone explain why you would want to send
> CW in SSB mode?
> I did go and find the setting, changed it to SSB +CW, and it works fine
> here, using firmware 4.36.
>
> Tnx & 73,
> Tim - N3XX
>
> On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk <fr...@qrd.nl>
> wrote:
> Hi group,
> Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode,
> but it no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in
> CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my
> paddle while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm
> using firmware version 04.39.
> Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-01-31 Thread N3XX
I must be missing something.  Can someone explain why you would want to send 
CW in SSB mode?
I did go and find the setting, changed it to SSB +CW, and it works fine 
here, using firmware 4.36.

Tnx & 73,
Tim - N3XX

On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk <fr...@qrd.nl>
wrote:
Hi group,
Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode,
but it no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in
CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my
paddle while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm
using firmware version 04.39.
Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-01-31 Thread Cady, Fred
Mine seems to work OK with 4.47.

Fred Cady
fcady at ieee dot org 
"The Elecraft K3: Design,Configuration and Operation"

> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-
> boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Beford
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:14 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
> 
> CW in SSB mode works fine here.
> Firmware versions:
> MCU 4.47
> FPF 1.15
> DSP1 2.73
> 
> 73,
> Bruce, N1RX
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-01-31 Thread Ted Bryant

Have you tried plugging a straight key into the KEY jack to see if it sends
cw on ssb that way?

Mine works (v4.39) with a paddle or straight key, vox or ptt, any band.

73, Ted W4NZ


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Frank R. Oppedijk
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 4:04 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?


Gary and others,

Yes, I momentarily saw it working okay on 6 meters when I did a brief
transmission on that band.

Unfortunately, as I don't have an antenna for 6 meters, the K3
encountered a high SWR there. And now it outputs only about 5 watts
on each band (also in CW mode) when I've dialed an output power less
than 12W. If I select a power level over 12W, so the KPA100 should
kick in, I get no output whatsoever.

So maybe I broke something now. :-(

Or the cryptic bug has manifested itself in the CW mode too.

Any ideas whether I could do a software reset of the radio?

Fingers crossed here now...

Frank PA4N


At 21:36 31/01/2012, you wrote:
>Hi Frank.
>
>I have the same problem: CW in SSB no longer works on K3#2887 running
>firmware 4.39.  I raised this on the reflector some months back and went
>around the loop changing config settings, PTT, QRQ etc.  I did manage to
fix
>it temporarily by restoring the K3 firmware configs, but annoyingly it has
>packed up again since then.
>
>I *think* CW-in-SSB it might still work on some bands, not others.  At
>least, that's what I found last time I checked - I haven't checked lately.
>
>I suspect there might be a cryptic bug in the firmware (the best kind!).
>
>73
>Gary  ZL2iFB
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-
> > boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Frank R. Oppedijk
> > Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012 7:48 a.m.
> > To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
> >
> > Hi Ken,
> >
> > No, I think not. If I assert PTT and speak, I see plenty output power.
If
>I
> > switch to CW mode and make CW, I see plenty output power.
> > So it cannot be that...
> >
> >
> > At 19:44 31/01/2012, Rose wrote:
> > >Is the PWR set to "0"?
> > >
> > >73!
> > >
> > >Ken - K0PP
> > ><mailto:elecraftcov...@gmail.com>elecraftcov...@gmail.com
> > >On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Frank R. Oppedijk
> > ><<mailto:fr...@qrd.nl>fr...@qrd.nl> wrote:
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I'm not asserting PTT. If I did, I'd indeed be transmitting SSB, as
> > >can be clearly heard on the monitor. So it must be yet something
else...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >At 19:13 31/01/2012, you wrote:
> > > >Even with VOX on, if you assert PTT along with CW keying, you will be
> > > >transmitting in SSB mode, not CW. Try disconnecting PTT and see if it
> > > >works...
> > > >
> > > > ~iain / N6ML
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Frank R. Oppedijk
> > > <<mailto:fr...@qrd.nl>fr...@qrd.nl> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Greg,
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, I have tried with VOX on. I see the red TX led on the K3 come
> > > > > on, I see the leftmost bar in the RF output lcd bar come on. But
no
> > > > > RF output on my external SWR meter. That SWR *does* show RF
> > output
> > > > > when I speak into the mike, or when I switch to CW mode and make
> > CW.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At 18:35 31/01/2012, Greg wrote:
> > > > >>Frank.  Do you have VOX turned on or are you asserting PTT when
> > > > >>sending the CW?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>73
> > > > >>Greg
> > > > >>AB7R
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk <<mailto:fr...@qrd.nl>fr...@qrd.nl>
> > wrote:
> > > > >> > Hi group,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode,
>but
> > it
> > > > >> > no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in
> > > > >> > CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my
> > paddle
> > > > >> > while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm
>using
> > 

Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-01-31 Thread Ken G Kopp
It works OK here w/4.39

73!

Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-01-31 Thread Bruce Beford
CW in SSB mode works fine here.
Firmware versions:
MCU 4.47
FPF 1.15
DSP1 2.73

73,
Bruce, N1RX


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-01-31 Thread Frank R. Oppedijk
Gary and others,

Yes, I momentarily saw it working okay on 6 meters when I did a brief 
transmission on that band.

Unfortunately, as I don't have an antenna for 6 meters, the K3 
encountered a high SWR there. And now it outputs only about 5 watts 
on each band (also in CW mode) when I've dialed an output power less 
than 12W. If I select a power level over 12W, so the KPA100 should 
kick in, I get no output whatsoever.

So maybe I broke something now. :-(

Or the cryptic bug has manifested itself in the CW mode too.

Any ideas whether I could do a software reset of the radio?

Fingers crossed here now...

Frank PA4N


At 21:36 31/01/2012, you wrote:
>Hi Frank.
>
>I have the same problem: CW in SSB no longer works on K3#2887 running
>firmware 4.39.  I raised this on the reflector some months back and went
>around the loop changing config settings, PTT, QRQ etc.  I did manage to fix
>it temporarily by restoring the K3 firmware configs, but annoyingly it has
>packed up again since then.
>
>I *think* CW-in-SSB it might still work on some bands, not others.  At
>least, that's what I found last time I checked - I haven't checked lately.
>
>I suspect there might be a cryptic bug in the firmware (the best kind!).
>
>73
>Gary  ZL2iFB
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-
> > boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Frank R. Oppedijk
> > Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012 7:48 a.m.
> > To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
> >
> > Hi Ken,
> >
> > No, I think not. If I assert PTT and speak, I see plenty output power. If
>I
> > switch to CW mode and make CW, I see plenty output power.
> > So it cannot be that...
> >
> >
> > At 19:44 31/01/2012, Rose wrote:
> > >Is the PWR set to "0"?
> > >
> > >73!
> > >
> > >Ken - K0PP
> > ><mailto:elecraftcov...@gmail.com>elecraftcov...@gmail.com
> > >On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Frank R. Oppedijk
> > ><<mailto:fr...@qrd.nl>fr...@qrd.nl> wrote:
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I'm not asserting PTT. If I did, I'd indeed be transmitting SSB, as
> > >can be clearly heard on the monitor. So it must be yet something else...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >At 19:13 31/01/2012, you wrote:
> > > >Even with VOX on, if you assert PTT along with CW keying, you will be
> > > >transmitting in SSB mode, not CW. Try disconnecting PTT and see if it
> > > >works...
> > > >
> > > > ~iain / N6ML
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Frank R. Oppedijk
> > > <<mailto:fr...@qrd.nl>fr...@qrd.nl> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Greg,
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, I have tried with VOX on. I see the red TX led on the K3 come
> > > > > on, I see the leftmost bar in the RF output lcd bar come on. But no
> > > > > RF output on my external SWR meter. That SWR *does* show RF
> > output
> > > > > when I speak into the mike, or when I switch to CW mode and make
> > CW.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At 18:35 31/01/2012, Greg wrote:
> > > > >>Frank.  Do you have VOX turned on or are you asserting PTT when
> > > > >>sending the CW?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>73
> > > > >>Greg
> > > > >>AB7R
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk <<mailto:fr...@qrd.nl>fr...@qrd.nl>
> > wrote:
> > > > >> > Hi group,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode,
>but
> > it
> > > > >> > no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in
> > > > >> > CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my
> > paddle
> > > > >> > while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm
>using
> > > > >> > firmware version 04.39.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?
> > > > >
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-01-31 Thread Gary Hinson
Hi Frank.

I have the same problem: CW in SSB no longer works on K3#2887 running
firmware 4.39.  I raised this on the reflector some months back and went
around the loop changing config settings, PTT, QRQ etc.  I did manage to fix
it temporarily by restoring the K3 firmware configs, but annoyingly it has
packed up again since then.

I *think* CW-in-SSB it might still work on some bands, not others.  At
least, that's what I found last time I checked - I haven't checked lately.

I suspect there might be a cryptic bug in the firmware (the best kind!).

73
Gary  ZL2iFB


> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-
> boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Frank R. Oppedijk
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012 7:48 a.m.
> To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
> 
> Hi Ken,
> 
> No, I think not. If I assert PTT and speak, I see plenty output power. If
I
> switch to CW mode and make CW, I see plenty output power.
> So it cannot be that...
> 
> 
> At 19:44 31/01/2012, Rose wrote:
> >Is the PWR set to "0"?
> >
> >73!
> >
> >Ken - K0PP
> ><mailto:elecraftcov...@gmail.com>elecraftcov...@gmail.com
> >On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Frank R. Oppedijk
> ><<mailto:fr...@qrd.nl>fr...@qrd.nl> wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I'm not asserting PTT. If I did, I'd indeed be transmitting SSB, as
> >can be clearly heard on the monitor. So it must be yet something else...
> >
> >
> >
> >At 19:13 31/01/2012, you wrote:
> > >Even with VOX on, if you assert PTT along with CW keying, you will be
> > >transmitting in SSB mode, not CW. Try disconnecting PTT and see if it
> > >works...
> > >
> > > ~iain / N6ML
> > >
> > >
> > >On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Frank R. Oppedijk
> > <<mailto:fr...@qrd.nl>fr...@qrd.nl> wrote:
> > > > Hi Greg,
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I have tried with VOX on. I see the red TX led on the K3 come
> > > > on, I see the leftmost bar in the RF output lcd bar come on. But no
> > > > RF output on my external SWR meter. That SWR *does* show RF
> output
> > > > when I speak into the mike, or when I switch to CW mode and make
> CW.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 18:35 31/01/2012, Greg wrote:
> > > >>Frank.  Do you have VOX turned on or are you asserting PTT when
> > > >>sending the CW?
> > > >>
> > > >>73
> > > >>Greg
> > > >>AB7R
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk <<mailto:fr...@qrd.nl>fr...@qrd.nl>
> wrote:
> > > >> > Hi group,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode,
but
> it
> > > >> > no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in
> > > >> > CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my
> paddle
> > > >> > while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm
using
> > > >> > firmware version 04.39.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-01-31 Thread Frank R. Oppedijk
Hi Ken,

No, I think not. If I assert PTT and speak, I see plenty output 
power. If I switch to CW mode and make CW, I see plenty output power. 
So it cannot be that...


At 19:44 31/01/2012, Rose wrote:
>Is the PWR set to "0"?
>
>73!
>
>Ken - K0PP
>elecraftcov...@gmail.com
>On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Frank R. Oppedijk 
><fr...@qrd.nl> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'm not asserting PTT. If I did, I'd indeed be transmitting SSB, as
>can be clearly heard on the monitor. So it must be yet something else...
>
>
>
>At 19:13 31/01/2012, you wrote:
> >Even with VOX on, if you assert PTT along with CW keying, you will be
> >transmitting in SSB mode, not CW. Try disconnecting PTT and see if it
> >works...
> >
> > ~iain / N6ML
> >
> >
> >On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Frank R. Oppedijk 
> <fr...@qrd.nl> wrote:
> > > Hi Greg,
> > >
> > > Yes, I have tried with VOX on. I see the red TX led on the K3 come
> > > on, I see the leftmost bar in the RF output lcd bar come on. But no
> > > RF output on my external SWR meter. That SWR *does* show RF output
> > > when I speak into the mike, or when I switch to CW mode and make CW.
> > >
> > >
> > > At 18:35 31/01/2012, Greg wrote:
> > >>Frank.  Do you have VOX turned on or are you asserting PTT when
> > >>sending the CW?
> > >>
> > >>73
> > >>Greg
> > >>AB7R
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk <fr...@qrd.nl> wrote:
> > >> > Hi group,
> > >> >
> > >> > Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but it
> > >> > no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in
> > >> > CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle
> > >> > while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using
> > >> > firmware version 04.39.
> > >> >
> > >> > Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?
> > >
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-01-31 Thread Frank R. Oppedijk
Hi,

I'm not asserting PTT. If I did, I'd indeed be transmitting SSB, as 
can be clearly heard on the monitor. So it must be yet something else...



At 19:13 31/01/2012, you wrote:
>Even with VOX on, if you assert PTT along with CW keying, you will be
>transmitting in SSB mode, not CW. Try disconnecting PTT and see if it
>works...
>
> ~iain / N6ML
>
>
>On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Frank R. Oppedijk  wrote:
> > Hi Greg,
> >
> > Yes, I have tried with VOX on. I see the red TX led on the K3 come
> > on, I see the leftmost bar in the RF output lcd bar come on. But no
> > RF output on my external SWR meter. That SWR *does* show RF output
> > when I speak into the mike, or when I switch to CW mode and make CW.
> >
> >
> > At 18:35 31/01/2012, Greg wrote:
> >>Frank.  Do you have VOX turned on or are you asserting PTT when
> >>sending the CW?
> >>
> >>73
> >>Greg
> >>AB7R
> >>
> >>
> >>On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk  wrote:
> >> > Hi group,
> >> >
> >> > Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but it
> >> > no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in
> >> > CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle
> >> > while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using
> >> > firmware version 04.39.
> >> >
> >> > Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-01-31 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
Even with VOX on, if you assert PTT along with CW keying, you will be
transmitting in SSB mode, not CW. Try disconnecting PTT and see if it
works...

~iain / N6ML


On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Frank R. Oppedijk  wrote:
> Hi Greg,
>
> Yes, I have tried with VOX on. I see the red TX led on the K3 come
> on, I see the leftmost bar in the RF output lcd bar come on. But no
> RF output on my external SWR meter. That SWR *does* show RF output
> when I speak into the mike, or when I switch to CW mode and make CW.
>
>
> At 18:35 31/01/2012, Greg wrote:
>>Frank.  Do you have VOX turned on or are you asserting PTT when
>>sending the CW?
>>
>>73
>>Greg
>>AB7R
>>
>>
>>On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk  wrote:
>> > Hi group,
>> >
>> > Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but it
>> > no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in
>> > CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle
>> > while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using
>> > firmware version 04.39.
>> >
>> > Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-01-31 Thread Frank R. Oppedijk
Hi Greg,

Yes, I have tried with VOX on. I see the red TX led on the K3 come 
on, I see the leftmost bar in the RF output lcd bar come on. But no 
RF output on my external SWR meter. That SWR *does* show RF output 
when I speak into the mike, or when I switch to CW mode and make CW.


At 18:35 31/01/2012, Greg wrote:
>Frank.  Do you have VOX turned on or are you asserting PTT when
>sending the CW?
>
>73
>Greg
>AB7R
>
>
>On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk  wrote:
> > Hi group,
> >
> > Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but it
> > no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in
> > CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle
> > while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using
> > firmware version 04.39.
> >
> > Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?

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[Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

2012-01-31 Thread Frank R. Oppedijk
Hi group,

Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but it 
no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in 
CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle 
while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using 
firmware version 04.39.

Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?

73,

Frank PA4N

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