[Elecraft] K3 - I wonder
I wonder if it would be possible.. to capture the settings that are being changed by any button press on the K3 front panel (commands from a control program too?) and save them in a stack 2 or 3 button presses deep.. Then I could have the oops key I need so often to get back to the way it was before I hit the wrong key again. This could also be used as quick switch to most anything just to look and then back again. Oh, well, just wondering (or wandering, hi). 73, de Jm KG0KP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - I wonder
Hello Jim, You can save personal settings with K3 utility. You can restore from there if you have any problem in the future 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W -Mensaje original- De: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] En nombre de Jim Miller KG0KP Enviado el: Jueves, 03 de Junio de 2010 08:59 a.m. Para: Elecraft Reflector Asunto: [Elecraft] K3 - I wonder I wonder if it would be possible.. to capture the settings that are being changed by any button press on the K3 front panel (commands from a control program too?) and save them in a stack 2 or 3 button presses deep.. Then I could have the oops key I need so often to get back to the way it was before I hit the wrong key again. This could also be used as quick switch to most anything just to look and then back again. Oh, well, just wondering (or wandering, hi). 73, de Jm KG0KP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - I wonder
That has been my wonder as well since I own this wonderful radio,a way to change quickly from let say dx to ragchewing to see the radio moving quicker from one set of settings to the other and not trough the Utilities that take longer.I owned in the past a TT Orion and it certainly have that recovery key to put the radio in default if we make a mistake,that will be another good tool to have in this radio,73 to all AD4C If you see a woman handling a cell phone on her hands while she is driving,do please stay away from her.!! --- On Thu, 6/3/10, Jim Miller KG0KP jimmil...@stl-online.net wrote: From: Jim Miller KG0KP jimmil...@stl-online.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - I wonder To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 11:58 AM I wonder if it would be possible.. to capture the settings that are being changed by any button press on the K3 front panel (commands from a control program too?) and save them in a stack 2 or 3 button presses deep.. Then I could have the oops key I need so often to get back to the way it was before I hit the wrong key again. This could also be used as quick switch to most anything just to look and then back again. Oh, well, just wondering (or wandering, hi). 73, de Jm KG0KP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - I wonder
This could very easily be a nice K3 Utility feature. Actually, a good model for this feature is found in MS Visual Studio 2010 (and, earlier versions). This allows the setup of the Visual Studio software to be saved in a file so that it can be restored at a later time or even shared with others. Aspects of how this might work on the K3 can almost use the Visual Studio feature as a design pattern -- I am sure that the author of the K3 Utility (on Windows) uses Visual Studio. But, one of the nifty features of this settings save and restore thing is that you can limit the scope of the save and restore to a subset of all of the settings. Via a selection process that is part of the save or restore, you can select various options or subsets of options to be affected. Thus, you don't run into the hassle of overwriting some other setting that you want to keep when you reclaim some other alternative setting. I can see it now -- this Elecraft forum will become a great trading ground for settings files. Sure, there are possibly some arcane settings to achieve some kind of performance or feature but no bother, there is a file that does that for you. 73, phil, K7PEH On Jun 3, 2010, at 5:17 AM, Hector Padron wrote: That has been my wonder as well since I own this wonderful radio,a way to change quickly from let say dx to ragchewing to see the radio moving quicker from one set of settings to the other and not trough the Utilities that take longer.I owned in the past a TT Orion and it certainly have that recovery key to put the radio in default if we make a mistake,that will be another good tool to have in this radio,73 to all AD4C If you see a woman handling a cell phone on her hands while she is driving,do please stay away from her.!! --- On Thu, 6/3/10, Jim Miller KG0KP jimmil...@stl-online.net wrote: From: Jim Miller KG0KP jimmil...@stl-online.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - I wonder To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 11:58 AM I wonder if it would be possible.. to capture the settings that are being changed by any button press on the K3 front panel (commands from a control program too?) and save them in a stack 2 or 3 button presses deep.. Then I could have the oops key I need so often to get back to the way it was before I hit the wrong key again. This could also be used as quick switch to most anything just to look and then back again. Oh, well, just wondering (or wandering, hi). 73, de Jm KG0KP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - I wonder
Doesn't save config do this already? 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- For all our conceits about being the center of the universe, we live in a routine planet of a humdrum star stuck away in an obscure corner ... on an unexceptional galaxy which is one of about 100 billion galaxies. ... That is the fundamental fact of the universe we inhabit, and it is very good for us to understand that. -Carl Sagan, astronomer and writer (1934-1996) On 3 Jun 2010, at 14:47, Phil Hystad wrote: This could very easily be a nice K3 Utility feature. Actually, a good model for this feature is found in MS Visual Studio 2010 (and, earlier versions). This allows the setup of the Visual Studio software to be saved in a file so that it can be restored at a later time or even shared with others. Aspects of how this might work on the K3 can almost use the Visual Studio feature as a design pattern -- I am sure that the author of the K3 Utility (on Windows) uses Visual Studio. But, one of the nifty features of this settings save and restore thing is that you can limit the scope of the save and restore to a subset of all of the settings. Via a selection process that is part of the save or restore, you can select various options or subsets of options to be affected. Thus, you don't run into the hassle of overwriting some other setting that you want to keep when you reclaim some other alternative setting. I can see it now -- this Elecraft forum will become a great trading ground for settings files. Sure, there are possibly some arcane settings to achieve some kind of performance or feature but no bother, there is a file that does that for you. 73, phil, K7PEH On Jun 3, 2010, at 5:17 AM, Hector Padron wrote: That has been my wonder as well since I own this wonderful radio,a way to change quickly from let say dx to ragchewing to see the radio moving quicker from one set of settings to the other and not trough the Utilities that take longer.I owned in the past a TT Orion and it certainly have that recovery key to put the radio in default if we make a mistake,that will be another good tool to have in this radio,73 to all AD4C __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - I wonder
Wayne and David and I have made dramatic improvements to the speed of configuration save and restore in upcoming K3 Utility versions (that depend on recent MCU versions). It will take on the order of 5 seconds to save and 10 seconds to restore a configuration (once you've selected the configuration file), and half of that is the MCU reset after restore. Not every K3 front panel key press is currently available for an undo stack. In particular, when I enter a menu and change a parameter, nothing is sent to the PC host to alert it to a configuration change. Few of us (including me) would be willing to keep a program like the K3 Utility connected to the radio during all radio operation to support an undo stack. During contests, my contest logging program controls the radio. At other times it might be connected to a DX logging program. Yes, I use Visual Studio. I'm stuck at VS 2005 because that's the last version that compiles code that will run on Windows 98 SE / ME. Phil, you should be aware that the Microsoft Visual Studio Program Management / Development / Test / Customer Support team is a tad larger than the K3 Utility, P3 Utility, K144XV Utility, W2 Utility, K3 Voice, and K3 Frequency Memory Editor team. And there are cost/revenue issues. Visual Studio's features must be whiz-bang to gather developer hearts and minds so that applications will be written for Windows. Not too many chose the Elecraft K3 over its competitors because of a feature-rich K3 Utility. The K3 Utility needs to do a few jobs reliably. If it were terrible, it could hurt customer satisfaction with the K3. It must be simple to use so that occasional users can get firmware loaded with a minimum of fuss. I use Visual Studio all the time. It's a pretty feature rich environment. And the learning curve was non-trivial. Elecraft sells amateur radio equipment. The K3 Utility is offered to customers without additional charge. It's a necessary adjunct to enable customers to update the radio's firmware. The K3 Utility is not a revenue source for Elecraft. Visual Studio (even with free Express editions) is most certainly a revenue source for Microsoft. 73 de Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil Hystad Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 6:47 AM To: Hector Padron Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Jim Miller KG0KP Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - I wonder This could very easily be a nice K3 Utility feature. Actually, a good model for this feature is found in MS Visual Studio 2010 (and, earlier versions). This allows the setup of the Visual Studio software to be saved in a file so that it can be restored at a later time or even shared with others. Aspects of how this might work on the K3 can almost use the Visual Studio feature as a design pattern -- I am sure that the author of the K3 Utility (on Windows) uses Visual Studio. But, one of the nifty features of this settings save and restore thing is that you can limit the scope of the save and restore to a subset of all of the settings. Via a selection process that is part of the save or restore, you can select various options or subsets of options to be affected. Thus, you don't run into the hassle of overwriting some other setting that you want to keep when you reclaim some other alternative setting. I can see it now -- this Elecraft forum will become a great trading ground for settings files. Sure, there are possibly some arcane settings to achieve some kind of performance or feature but no bother, there is a file that does that for you. 73, phil, K7PEH On Jun 3, 2010, at 5:17 AM, Hector Padron wrote: That has been my wonder as well since I own this wonderful radio,a way to change quickly from let say dx to ragchewing to see the radio moving quicker from one set of settings to the other and not trough the Utilities that take longer.I owned in the past a TT Orion and it certainly have that recovery key to put the radio in default if we make a mistake,that will be another good tool to have in this radio,73 to all AD4C If you see a woman handling a cell phone on her hands while she is driving,do please stay away from her.!! --- On Thu, 6/3/10, Jim Miller KG0KP jimmil...@stl-online.net wrote: From: Jim Miller KG0KP jimmil...@stl-online.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - I wonder To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 11:58 AM I wonder if it would be possible.. to capture the settings that are being changed by any button press on the K3 front panel (commands from a control program too?) and save them in a stack 2 or 3 button presses deep.. Then I could have the oops key I need so often to get back to the way it was before I hit the wrong key again. This could also be used as quick switch to most anything just to look and then back again. Oh, well, just wondering (or wandering, hi). 73, de Jm
[Elecraft] K3 - I wonder
Thanks all for the comments. Guess I'll amke sure I have a valid current backup of my settings and restore them with the Utility if it I get it really screwed up. Thanks es 73, de Jim KG0KP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
