[Elecraft] K3 Shipping Box

[Terry Schieler]

 Back in 2013, I purchased a custom shipping box from Dave Haller, KA1W, of 
www.hamradioboxes.com with which to ship an Acom 1000 amplifier that I was 
selling.  It was pricy, but so was the amp.  I would not have purchased one for 
just a half a K3 round trip to Elecraft Service, but if you are doing 
DXpeditions and moving your gear around regularly, his custom boxes were 
outstanding.  

Update:  I did a quick Google search for Ham Radio Boxes and the most recent I 
can find is from 2014 saying that Dave had taken a "temporary break" from the 
box building business.  Sad, as Dave was excellent to work with.

See my (and other) eHam review:  http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/9938?page=2

73 Terry WØFM



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Box

[Charles Johnson]

17" x 17" x 9”

73, Charles, K4ZRJ


> On Feb 19, 2017, at 7:28 PM, a...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> 
> Would someone share the dimensions of assembled K3/s box as it comes from 
> factory?Am guessing it comes with surround Styrofoam?
> Mike  AC5P 
> 
>On Sunday, February 19, 2017 2:40 PM, Doug Renwick <ve...@sasktel.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I make my own shipping boxes. I describe my procedure below which in reality
> is much easier and faster than it reads. I have employed this to ship by
> post office quite a few radios and power supplies (i.e. Collins and Drake
> gear) and have not had any damage. I have found the Styrofoam used here to
> be very 'forgiving'.
> 
> You need to 'float' the item in a single shipping box. Select a box that is
> at least 2" wider on each side, top and bottom and 3-4" wider front and
> back. Get some solid Styrofoam insulation, preferably 2" thick; 1" thick
> will work. Make a template of the rig's front or back for size. Measure the
> inside of the box's front and back for height and width. With this
> measurement cut two pieces of the Styrofoam board using utility knife.
> Center the template from above on the Styrofoam board, mark and cut out the
> opening. Slide the two Styrofoam boards onto the rig, say 1", one front and
> one back. You may have to partially notch the board to accept the rigs feet.
> It should be a firm fit. Place the rig into the box. It should be a firm fit
> and the two Styrofoam board supports will 'float' the rig in the box.
> 
> The Styrofoam board support boards and rig need to be secured in place. Once
> the rig is floating in the box, it will become obvious where additional
> blocking needs to take place. Take other pieces of Styrofoam, cut to size to
> go between the rigs front (2) and back (2), glued to the box, and resting on
> the outside edges of the rig away from any knobs. This will prevent the rig
> from sliding forward or rearward. Now take other pieces of Styrofoam, cut to
> size and glue inside to the box sides (3 per side) to hold the Styrofoam
> board supporting the rig in place. You can add bubble wrap, crumbled paper,
> peanuts, foam to fill the openings, front, back, sides, top and bottom. I
> also try to place the rig inside a plastic bag to reduce any chances of
> scratching.
> 
> Doug/VA5DX
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W1GO
> (Joe)
> Sent: February-18-17 7:19 PM
> To: James Setzler
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Box
> 
> James
> 
> I had to send my KPA500 (including transformer) back to Elecraft from NY.
> My KPA500 was a kit so, like you, I had to figure out the best packaging.
> The KPA500 is much heavier than the K3s, so if you package as has been
> recommended (i.e. 2 inches peanuts or bubble pack on all sides and no
> movement), you should be fine.  And, be sure to get the correct amount of
> insurance.  By the way, the packaging sent back from Elecraft had absolutely
> no peanuts or bubble wrap; it wasn't needed.  The two big foam end pieces
> held the KPA500 rock solid in the box;  There's no way I'm throwing that box
> and foam pieces away.
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Joe
> W1GO
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Box

[ac5p]

Would someone share the dimensions of assembled K3/s box as it comes from 
factory?    Am guessing it comes with surround Styrofoam?
Mike  AC5P 

On Sunday, February 19, 2017 2:40 PM, Doug Renwick <ve...@sasktel.net> 
wrote:
 

 I make my own shipping boxes. I describe my procedure below which in reality
is much easier and faster than it reads. I have employed this to ship by
post office quite a few radios and power supplies (i.e. Collins and Drake
gear) and have not had any damage. I have found the Styrofoam used here to
be very 'forgiving'.

You need to 'float' the item in a single shipping box. Select a box that is
at least 2" wider on each side, top and bottom and 3-4" wider front and
back. Get some solid Styrofoam insulation, preferably 2" thick; 1" thick
will work. Make a template of the rig's front or back for size. Measure the
inside of the box's front and back for height and width. With this
measurement cut two pieces of the Styrofoam board using utility knife.
Center the template from above on the Styrofoam board, mark and cut out the
opening. Slide the two Styrofoam boards onto the rig, say 1", one front and
one back. You may have to partially notch the board to accept the rigs feet.
It should be a firm fit. Place the rig into the box. It should be a firm fit
and the two Styrofoam board supports will 'float' the rig in the box.

The Styrofoam board support boards and rig need to be secured in place. Once
the rig is floating in the box, it will become obvious where additional
blocking needs to take place. Take other pieces of Styrofoam, cut to size to
go between the rigs front (2) and back (2), glued to the box, and resting on
the outside edges of the rig away from any knobs. This will prevent the rig
from sliding forward or rearward. Now take other pieces of Styrofoam, cut to
size and glue inside to the box sides (3 per side) to hold the Styrofoam
board supporting the rig in place. You can add bubble wrap, crumbled paper,
peanuts, foam to fill the openings, front, back, sides, top and bottom. I
also try to place the rig inside a plastic bag to reduce any chances of
scratching.

Doug/VA5DX

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W1GO
(Joe)
Sent: February-18-17 7:19 PM
To: James Setzler
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Box

James

I had to send my KPA500 (including transformer) back to Elecraft from NY.
My KPA500 was a kit so, like you, I had to figure out the best packaging.
The KPA500 is much heavier than the K3s, so if you package as has been
recommended (i.e. 2 inches peanuts or bubble pack on all sides and no
movement), you should be fine.  And, be sure to get the correct amount of
insurance.  By the way, the packaging sent back from Elecraft had absolutely
no peanuts or bubble wrap; it wasn't needed.  The two big foam end pieces
held the KPA500 rock solid in the box;  There's no way I'm throwing that box
and foam pieces away.

Good luck,

Joe
W1GO


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Box

[Doug Renwick]

I make my own shipping boxes. I describe my procedure below which in reality
is much easier and faster than it reads. I have employed this to ship by
post office quite a few radios and power supplies (i.e. Collins and Drake
gear) and have not had any damage. I have found the Styrofoam used here to
be very 'forgiving'.

You need to 'float' the item in a single shipping box. Select a box that is
at least 2" wider on each side, top and bottom and 3-4" wider front and
back. Get some solid Styrofoam insulation, preferably 2" thick; 1" thick
will work. Make a template of the rig's front or back for size. Measure the
inside of the box's front and back for height and width. With this
measurement cut two pieces of the Styrofoam board using utility knife.
Center the template from above on the Styrofoam board, mark and cut out the
opening. Slide the two Styrofoam boards onto the rig, say 1", one front and
one back. You may have to partially notch the board to accept the rigs feet.
It should be a firm fit. Place the rig into the box. It should be a firm fit
and the two Styrofoam board supports will 'float' the rig in the box.

The Styrofoam board support boards and rig need to be secured in place. Once
the rig is floating in the box, it will become obvious where additional
blocking needs to take place. Take other pieces of Styrofoam, cut to size to
go between the rigs front (2) and back (2), glued to the box, and resting on
the outside edges of the rig away from any knobs. This will prevent the rig
from sliding forward or rearward. Now take other pieces of Styrofoam, cut to
size and glue inside to the box sides (3 per side) to hold the Styrofoam
board supporting the rig in place. You can add bubble wrap, crumbled paper,
peanuts, foam to fill the openings, front, back, sides, top and bottom. I
also try to place the rig inside a plastic bag to reduce any chances of
scratching.

Doug/VA5DX

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W1GO
(Joe)
Sent: February-18-17 7:19 PM
To: James Setzler
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Box

James

I had to send my KPA500 (including transformer) back to Elecraft from NY.
My KPA500 was a kit so, like you, I had to figure out the best packaging.
The KPA500 is much heavier than the K3s, so if you package as has been
recommended (i.e. 2 inches peanuts or bubble pack on all sides and no
movement), you should be fine.  And, be sure to get the correct amount of
insurance.  By the way, the packaging sent back from Elecraft had absolutely
no peanuts or bubble wrap; it wasn't needed.  The two big foam end pieces
held the KPA500 rock solid in the box;  There's no way I'm throwing that box
and foam pieces away.

Good luck,

Joe
W1GO


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Box

[Mike Rhodes]

On 2/18/2017 7:43 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:



If you do not have packing peanuts, put layers of bubblewrap to 2 
inches thick under the K3 and use crumpled newspaper to fill the rest 
of the box.  If you use crumpled newspaper, make sure there is enough 
tightly packed at each of the K3 corners so the K3 cannot move in the 
box.
At least with UPS, DO NOT USE NEWSPAPER. From their "Internal Packaging 
" 
page:

-
*Kraft Paper
*Kraft paper_(not newspaper or newsprint)__**_is wrapped and crumpled to 
fill empty space inside a package with light-to-medium weight, 
non-fragile items. When using kraft paper, tightly wad the paper and use 
at least two inches (5.08 cm) around and between the contents. Make sure 
that there are at least two inches (5.08 cm) of kraft paper on all six 
sides of the box.

---
...and, UPS does not sell "Insurance" but rather "Assurance". Not 
exactly sure what that means other than, if there is a claim and you 
have failed in any way to follow their packing specs, it doesn't matter 
how much you declared or how much you paid for "assurance", you are S.O.L.


FedEx may be the same way but I don't know.

...just an FYI.

Mike / W8DN
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Box

[Ken G Kopp]

Thanks, Todd!


Hi Kenny,

I had to purchase one from Elecraft for my K3.  $27.00 cost.  Kind of
pricey but it is a good box.  My two cents worth from Hawaii.  Todd


On Feb 18, 2017, at 3:00 PM, Ken G Kopp  wrote:

James,

I expect Elecraft could sell / send you the proper box for your K3.  The
cost to mail an (assembled) empty carton shouldn't be too high, and sent
via Priority Mail can be anywhere in the US within 2 - 3 days. This is
Rose's experience with her cases and covers business.

73!
Ken - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Box

[W1GO (Joe)]

James

I had to send my KPA500 (including transformer) back to Elecraft from NY.  My 
KPA500 was a kit so, like you, I had to figure out the best packaging.  The 
KPA500 is much heavier than the K3s, so if you package as has been recommended 
(i.e. 2 inches peanuts or bubble pack on all sides and no movement), you should 
be fine.  And, be sure to get the correct amount of insurance.  By the way, the 
packaging sent back from Elecraft had absolutely no peanuts or bubble wrap; it 
wasn’t needed.  The two big foam end pieces held the KPA500 rock solid in the 
box;  There’s no way I’m throwing that box and foam pieces away.

Good luck,

Joe
W1GO


> On Feb 18, 2017, at 7:12 PM, James Setzler  wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> 
> 
> I bought my K3 as a kit and, for some reason, the finished product doesn't
> fit back into the box it came in!
> 
> 
> 
> Is there a Factory Approved Box available that I can get to insure the K3 is
> packaged properly for shipping?
> 
> 
> 
>73 James K1SD
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Box

[Brian Hemmis]

Hi James, It might be simpler if you are not comfortable packing & shipping 
gear to let the UPS or FedEx store pack and ship the radio. If they pack it “in 
house” and there is any damage in shipping they will cover it 100% for whatever 
you claim its value to be. I normally pack myself but a couple years ago I sold 
an Alpha amp to a man half way across the country and let them pack it in 2 
boxes as I didn’t have the original boxes. I’m guessing Elecraft will ship the 
radio back in a proper K3 factory box.
73, Brian K3USC

> On Feb 18, 2017, at 8:00 PM, Ken G Kopp  wrote:
> 
> James,
> 
> I expect Elecraft could sell / send you the proper box for your K3.  The
> cost to mail an (assembled) empty carton shouldn't be too high, and sent
> via Priority Mail can be anywhere in the US within 2 - 3 days. This is
> Rose's experience with her cases and covers business.
> 
> 73!
> 
> Ken - K0PP
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 18, 2017 5:12 PM, "James Setzler"  wrote:
> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I bought my K3 as a kit and, for some reason, the finished product doesn't
>> fit back into the box it came in!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Is there a Factory Approved Box available that I can get to insure the K3
>> is
>> packaged properly for shipping?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>73 James K1SD
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Box

[Ken G Kopp]

James,

I expect Elecraft could sell / send you the proper box for your K3.  The
cost to mail an (assembled) empty carton shouldn't be too high, and sent
via Priority Mail can be anywhere in the US within 2 - 3 days. This is
Rose's experience with her cases and covers business.

73!

Ken - K0PP



On Feb 18, 2017 5:12 PM, "James Setzler"  wrote:

> Greetings,
>
>
>
> I bought my K3 as a kit and, for some reason, the finished product doesn't
> fit back into the box it came in!
>
>
>
> Is there a Factory Approved Box available that I can get to insure the K3
> is
> packaged properly for shipping?
>
>
>
> 73 James K1SD
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Box

[Don Wilhelm]

Ron,

With proper packing as I indicated in my post a few minutes ago, there 
is not real need for double boxing.  The important thing is that the 
radio is not able to move in the box if subjected to an impact.


Rarely do I receive a damaged radio, and in all cases of damage 
(normally minor), the radio moved within the box.  Only rarely do I find 
a damaged box, and usually that is normal "wear and tear" from handling.


I have most experience with USPS and UPS although sometimes FedEX. 
Those carriers are good with packages, and as I said, only rarely do I 
find damage, and in all cases that was caused by movement of the radio 
in the box.


I have been shipping and receiving the Elecraft legacy gear since 2004, 
and have never had a claim that was worth pursuing.  It is easier to 
just replace the BNC connector that contacted the packing box than to go 
through the process of placing a claim.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/18/2017 7:31 PM, Ron Manfredi wrote:

Following along with James' question, should the K3 be double boxed for
shipment back to Elecraft for the "migration?"



On 2/18/2017 7:12 PM, James Setzler wrote:

Greetings,


I bought my K3 as a kit and, for some reason, the finished product
doesn't
fit back into the box it came in!


Is there a Factory Approved Box available that I can get to insure the
K3 is
packaged properly for shipping?


 73 James K1SD



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Box

[Don Wilhelm]

Jim,

I don't know if you can get the box and spacers that Elecraft uses - you 
can give them a call and ask.  They use a box and dense foam supports 
which fit the K3.  After your K3's first trip to Elecraft, you will have 
a box like that when it returns.


I ship a lot of radios (K1, KX1, K2 and XV series transverters), so I 
have come to know what packing methods will work well and protect your K3.


The requirement for safe shipping (by all carriers I know of) is that 
you have 2 inches of protection space on all sides between the radio and 
the box.
The very most important aspect is that the radio cannot move in the box 
if the box is subjected to a sudden stop at the end of a sorting ramp.


The K2 will meet those requirements by using a 16x16x8 box.  Wrap the K3 
in bubblewrap (using only a minimum amount of tape, it does not have to 
be wrapped as a mummy), then put almost 2 inches of packing peanuts in 
the bottom of the box.  put the K2 in and fill the rest of the box with 
packing peanuts.  The bubblewrap is to keep the packing peanuts from 
sticking to the K3.


If you do not have packing peanuts, put layers of bubblewrap to 2 inches 
thick under the K3 and use crumpled newspaper to fill the rest of the 
box.  If you use crumpled newspaper, make sure there is enough tightly 
packed at each of the K3 corners so the K3 cannot move in the box.


With an object as heavy as the K3, do not use the large air bags.  While 
they fill a lot of space, when pressure is applied, they can burst 
leaving little protection.


You can always take your K3 to a shipping depot and they will package it 
for you.  But they will usually wrap the radio "like a mummy" with lots 
of tape holding the bubblewrap - that gives the technician unwrapping it 
fits to get all the wrapping off.
But the shipping depots are responsible for the safe packing of whatever 
you are shipping.  Yes, they charge for that service.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/18/2017 7:12 PM, James Setzler wrote:

Greetings,



I bought my K3 as a kit and, for some reason, the finished product doesn't
fit back into the box it came in!



Is there a Factory Approved Box available that I can get to insure the K3 is
packaged properly for shipping?

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Box

[Ron Manfredi]

Following along with James' question, should the K3 be double boxed for 
shipment back to Elecraft for the "migration?"




On 2/18/2017 7:12 PM, James Setzler wrote:

Greetings,

  


I bought my K3 as a kit and, for some reason, the finished product doesn't
fit back into the box it came in!

  


Is there a Factory Approved Box available that I can get to insure the K3 is
packaged properly for shipping?

  


 73 James K1SD

  

  


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[Elecraft] K3 Shipping Box

[James Setzler]

Greetings,

 

I bought my K3 as a kit and, for some reason, the finished product doesn't
fit back into the box it came in!

 

Is there a Factory Approved Box available that I can get to insure the K3 is
packaged properly for shipping?

 

73 James K1SD

 

 

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[Elecraft] K3 Shipping Status of KSYN3AUPG

[Hans H Vollmer]

Hi
is there a shipping status for the KSYN3AUPG ?
73 de Hans, DF5SR
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Status of KSYN3AUPG

[Ken Wagner K3IU]

I received notification of shipment today.
73, Ken K3IU
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Hi
is there a shipping status for the 
KSYN3AUPG ?

73 de Hans, DF5SR
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Status of KSYN3AUPG

[Stephen Prior]

Ordered mine online a few hours after Wayne's email.  Should ship tomorrow.

73 Stephen, G4SJP

On 17 February 2015 at 20:08, Ken Wagner K3IU kenk...@cox.net wrote:

 I received notification of shipment today.
 73, Ken K3IU
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 is there a shipping status for the KSYN3AUPG ?
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Status of KSYN3AUPG

[Hisashi T Fujinaka]

Mine are out for delivery but I ordered mine as soon as the email came
out. I had to call to add to the order and the Elecraft sales person
laughed when I told her when I ordered it.

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Hi
is there a shipping status for the KSYN3AUPG ?
73 de Hans, DF5SR
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[Elecraft] K3 Shipping weight?

[Richard W Hemingway]

Hi

I know that a K3 weights about 8.5 lbs.  What is the shipping weight? Just 
trying to get all my ducks in a row.  Thanks

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping weight?

[David Sanders W4DES]

The shipping weight for my K3 was 16 pounds.  That was a K3/100 with extras.

David Sanders W4DES
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 I know that a K3 weights about 8.5 lbs.  What is the shipping weight? Just 
 trying to get all my ducks in a row.  Thanks
 
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[Elecraft] K3 shipping box dimensions?

[Scott Manthe]

Does anyone have the dimensions of the original shipping box for an 
assembled K3/100? Shipping weight would be nice, as well.

Thanks!

73,
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 shipping info

[Ignacy]

Mine ordered Oct 30 has shipped last Tuesday so the delivery may be
approximately 0.95873 month(s). 
Ignacy, NO9E
 

Nelson Wittstock wrote:
 
 I just saw this on the Elecraft site.
 
 Newly received K3 orders are now delivered approximately 1.50002 months
 (or 
 less) after order date.
 
 It seems to me that the number of months is a little too precise to be 
 realistic.  LOL
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 shipping info

[Jon K Hellan]

Ignacy wrote:

Mine ordered Oct 30 has shipped last Tuesday so the delivery may be
approximately 0.95873 month(s). 
Ignacy, NO9E


Not quite sure if this is good news or bad news. Have new orders been hit 
really hard by the crisis?

Jon, LA4RT

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 shipping info

[Mike Short]

I think the answer is their production has ramped up enough to reduce wait
times.

Mike
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 shipping info

[Bill W5WVO]

Suspect both are true to some extent. People (even hams) who CAN
afford to make large purchases are pulling back on doing so out of
fear of an unpredictable economic future, which is exactly what
the economy does NOT need right now. Deflation feeds itself on
fear, inflation feeds itself on greed...

I certainly wish Elecraft the best of luck. According to Eric's
last mention of this a couple months ago, the company has lots of
reserve cash and no debt.

Bill W5WVO

- Original Message - 
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 I think the answer is their production has ramped up enough to
reduce wait
 times.

 Mike
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 shipping info

[Dick Grolleman]

Hi All

Well I'm still waiting for my second reciever ordered on Feb 11th. No word 
yet from Elecraft.


73 de Dick PA3FQA
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Suspect both are true to some extent. People (even hams) who CAN
afford to make large purchases are pulling back on doing so out of
fear of an unpredictable economic future, which is exactly what
the economy does NOT need right now. Deflation feeds itself on
fear, inflation feeds itself on greed...

I certainly wish Elecraft the best of luck. According to Eric's
last mention of this a couple months ago, the company has lots of
reserve cash and no debt.

Bill W5WVO

- Original Message - 
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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 6:19 AM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 shipping info



I think the answer is their production has ramped up enough to

reduce wait

times.

Mike
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 shipping info

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Nope! We're just getting them out the door more efficiently.

We have been working very hard in Aptos these past months to get caught up and 
eventually into a stocking situation for K3s (to satisfy the 'I want it now' 
syndrome.. ;-)

We run the company very conservatively, which is serving us well in the current 
economic environment. 

73,.

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Ignacy wrote:
 Mine ordered Oct 30 has shipped last Tuesday so the delivery may be
 approximately 0.95873 month(s). 
 Ignacy, NO9E

Not quite sure if this is good news or bad news. Have new orders been hit 
really hard by the crisis?

Jon, LA4RT

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 shipping info

[Adam Koczarski]

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 Mine ordered Oct 30 has shipped last Tuesday so the delivery may be
 approximately 0.95873 month(s).
 Ignacy, NO9E
 

I ordered mine Oct 14th, UPS indicates I'll have it Monday morning!

Adam - ka7ark


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 shipping info

[Ignacy]

Mine was indeed fast but no confirmation but Katie wrote it was mailed
Priority mail last Tuesday.
Ignacy



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 Mine ordered Oct 30 has shipped last Tuesday so the delivery may be
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 Ignacy, NO9E

 I ordered mine Oct 14th, UPS indicates I'll have it Monday morning!

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[Elecraft] K3 shipping info

[Nelson Wittstock]

I just saw this on the Elecraft site.

Newly received K3 orders are now delivered approximately 1.50002 months (or 
less) after order date.


It seems to me that the number of months is a little too precise to be 
realistic.  LOL


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[Elecraft] [K3] Shipping Status of the KDVR3

[Toby Deinhardt]

Hi,

According to http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_shipping_status.htm:

 The KDVR3 has been released to production and
 should be shipping in the next 4-5 weeks.
 (Mid-Late November.)

Now that we have reached Mid-November, is there any news when and if the 
KDVR3 will start shipping?


I would simply love to receive mine in time for the ARRL 10m Contest in 
December... ;-) But OTOH Elecraft shouldn't rush things, if the DVR is 
not ready for prime time.


vy 73 de toby

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[Elecraft] K3 Shipping Status Update

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

We've updated the K3 shipping status page.

Through Friday, Oct 31st, we will be shipping K3 orders received through 
Aug 31st, 2008.


Newly received K3 orders are now targeted for delivery 2.2 months after 
order date. (As of 10/21)


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[Elecraft] K3 Shipping Status Update

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

We've just updated the K3 shipping status page:

Through Friday, Oct 3rd,  we will be shipping K3 orders
received through June 30th, 2008.


Newly received K3 orders are now targeted for delivery
3.0 months after order date.  :-)

73, Eric WA6HHQ


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[Elecraft] K3 Shipping Statistics (build rate and wait times)

[Brett Howard]

Figured it was time to post a new set of graphics.  Maybe it will spur
on some more people posting that they have received their units. 

Perhaps this will help some of those still waiting for their units to
arrive.  I know that when I was waiting for mine to arrive it was nice
to be able to watch. 

http://www.livecomputers.com:90/BuildRate.png
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: shipping status updated

[Jeff Rosenberger]

Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
No reason to be upset :-) The order rate is still -very- good. We're 
just doing even better in production.


We've planned on ramping up production to this point from the start 
and to be honest, for ongoing business in this market long term, it is 
important that we get the lead time down to a very short time.


My intuition says you'll get a flurry of orders immediately after 
announcing that K3s are shipping from stock.  I know I was planning to 
order one as soon as they are in stock, and I'm sure others are also.  
Amateur radio has taken a back seat to other hobbies for the time being, 
but if the bug bites hard again and K3s are in stock I'll order one.


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[Elecraft] K3: shipping status updated

[DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL]

For those still waiting or tracking

http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_shipping_status.htm

Through Friday, Sept 5th,  we will be shipping K3 orders received
through May 16th, 2008.

Newly received K3 orders are now targeted for delivery 3.7 months
after order date.

de Doug KR2Q
PS...gotta love the point 7 months  I assume that is +/- 0.05 months
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: shipping status updated

[Thom LaCosta]

At 06:50 AM 08/26/08, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote:

For those still waiting or tracking

PS...gotta love the point 7 months  I assume that is +/- 0.05 months


Is that based on West Coast time, or UTC?

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: shipping status updated

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3.7 months after order date.


That would be roughly about 9730260 seconds or one period of c.  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: shipping status updated

[Brett Howard]

I've not yet seen a unit that was advertised here arrive in 4 months
yet...  Maybe they are catching up.  I kinda like things remaining
behind a bit...  Means that K3's are going out as quickly as possible
and is good news for Elecraft... So long as customers are willing to
wait for a K3 and I think people have spoken that they will.

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:24 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 3.7 months after order date.

 That would be roughly about 9730260 seconds or one period of c. 102.772 nHz
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: shipping status updated

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

This delivery time is -forward- looking, and is a direct calculation 
based on current and projected production rates.


Looking backwards the time will always be longer as we have been 
continually increasing production rates each month. We are now producing 
at a rate ahead of current orders.


(The actual calculation was 3.68  ;-)

73,
Eric  WA6HHQ
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Brett Howard wrote:

I've not yet seen a unit that was advertised here arrive in 4 months
yet...  Maybe they are catching up.  I kinda like things remaining
behind a bit...  Means that K3's are going out as quickly as possible
and is good news for Elecraft... So long as customers are willing to
wait for a K3 and I think people have spoken that they will.

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:24 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

3.7 months after order date.
  


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: shipping status updated

[Jim Brown]

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:14:27 -0700, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft 
wrote:

Looking backwards the time will always be longer as we have been 
continually increasing production rates each month. 

The floggings I've heard about from your employees seem to be having 
the desired effect!

Jim



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RE: [Elecraft] K3: shipping status updated

[Brett Howard]

Very cool.  Kinda upsetting that you're now going faster than orders but
it's also a plus.  I was liking that units were being sold faster than they
could be made for a while but with the 7600 and what not coming out getting
to a point where one can just be ordered and shipped may not be that bad of
a thing.  I can definitely see the wait being something that sways someone
away from the K3.  

I must admit that mine was definitely worth the wait.

-Original Message-
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This delivery time is -forward- looking, and is a direct calculation 
based on current and projected production rates.

Looking backwards the time will always be longer as we have been 
continually increasing production rates each month. We are now producing 
at a rate ahead of current orders.

(The actual calculation was 3.68  ;-)

73,
Eric  WA6HHQ
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Brett Howard wrote:
 I've not yet seen a unit that was advertised here arrive in 4 months
 yet...  Maybe they are catching up.  I kinda like things remaining
 behind a bit...  Means that K3's are going out as quickly as possible
 and is good news for Elecraft... So long as customers are willing to
 wait for a K3 and I think people have spoken that they will.

 On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:24 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 3.7 months after order date.
   
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: shipping status updated

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

No reason to be upset :-) The order rate is still -very- good. We're 
just doing even better in production.


We've planned on ramping up production to this point from the start and 
to be honest, for ongoing business in this market long term, it is 
important that we get the lead time down to a very short time.


73, Eric
---

Brett Howard wrote:

Very cool.  Kinda upsetting that you're now going faster than orders but
it's also a plus.  I was liking that units were being sold faster than they
could be made for a while but with the 7600 and what not coming out getting
to a point where one can just be ordered and shipped may not be that bad of
a thing.  I can definitely see the wait being something that sways someone
away from the K3.  


I must admit that mine was definitely worth the wait.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ,
Elecraft
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 12:14 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: shipping status updated

This delivery time is -forward- looking, and is a direct calculation 
based on current and projected production rates.


Looking backwards the time will always be longer as we have been 
continually increasing production rates each month. We are now producing 
at a rate ahead of current orders.


(The actual calculation was 3.68  ;-)

73,
Eric  WA6HHQ
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[Elecraft] K3 Shipping Status for parts

[AD6XY]

Does anyone know what the shipping status is for K3 parts? For example XV
Module, Broadcast RX board, PA module, ATU, Filters etc?

This info is not shown on the shipping status page.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Status for parts

[David Ferrington, M0XDF]

It's generally all in stock
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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On 25 Jul 2008, at 13:50, AD6XY wrote:



Does anyone know what the shipping status is for K3 parts? For  
example XV

Module, Broadcast RX board, PA module, ATU, Filters etc?

This info is not shown on the shipping status page.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - shipping size?

[AD6XY]

I am not  sure I agree. If you leave it in the box as delivered then you can
just put it through like any other piece of baggage. Possibly even put it
inside another bag. It may be that you need to pay the extra $25 for an
extra bag but that will be cheaper than UPS. I doubt the UPS baggage
handlers are much gentler than the airline ones.

Mike



LB3SA wrote:
 
 Thanks for all the responses! It was very useful.
 
 If I had travelled myself I would have brought it. But since it will be a
 colleague it sounds like it's best to send it over with UPS. That way I'm
 reasonably sure it'll get here in one piece.
 
 Are
 
 
 Jon K Hellan wrote:
 
 LB3SA wrote:
 My K3 (kit form) is soon ready to be shipped. A friend of mine is in the
 US
 though and I was going to ask him to bring it home in his suitcase.
 Could anyone tell me how big the boxes are? I assume it can be taken out
 of
 the 'main box' (if there is such a thing) and maybe distributed various
 places in a suitcase. Or... will it be too much? The K2 box was
 extrememly
 small  but I assume the K3 to be a bit bigger.
 
 Are - LB3SA
 KX1 - K2 - K3 on order
 
 33 x 33 x 40 cm (w d h)
 
 In checked baggage, you'd probably need even more popcorn.
 
 73
 LA4RT Jon
 
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[Elecraft] K3 - shipping size?

[LB3SA]

My K3 (kit form) is soon ready to be shipped. A friend of mine is in the US
though and I was going to ask him to bring it home in his suitcase.
Could anyone tell me how big the boxes are? I assume it can be taken out of
the 'main box' (if there is such a thing) and maybe distributed various
places in a suitcase. Or... will it be too much? The K2 box was extrememly
small  but I assume the K3 to be a bit bigger.

Are - LB3SA
KX1 - K2 - K3 on order
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - shipping size?

[Julian, G4ILO]

LB3SA wrote:
 
 My K3 (kit form) is soon ready to be shipped. A friend of mine is in the
 US though and I was going to ask him to bring it home in his suitcase.
 Could anyone tell me how big the boxes are? I assume it can be taken out
 of the 'main box' (if there is such a thing) and maybe distributed various
 places in a suitcase. Or... will it be too much? The K2 box was extrememly
 small  but I assume the K3 to be a bit bigger.
 
I don't have the measurements, but it's probably too big for hand luggage. I
guess it would take up best part of half of a decent sized suitcase.

It is very well packed, with polystyrene chips and bubble wrap. Bear in mind
there are bare PCBs in there that need to be well protected from the normal
rigors of shipping, never mind airport baggage handlers. There are also a
lot of different packages to get mislaid if you open the box and distribute
the bits about a suitcase.

I've heard of laptops and other valuables getting lost in checked baggage,
and the value of the K3 would probably not be compensated by your friend's
travel insurance. Personally, I think it'd be better to pay for shipping by
insured courier, the risk of loss or damage just isn't worth the saving.

-
Julian, G4ILO
http://www.g4ilo.com/ G4ILO's Shack 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - shipping size?

[Jon Kåre Hellan]

LB3SA wrote:

My K3 (kit form) is soon ready to be shipped. A friend of mine is in the US
though and I was going to ask him to bring it home in his suitcase.
Could anyone tell me how big the boxes are? I assume it can be taken out of
the 'main box' (if there is such a thing) and maybe distributed various
places in a suitcase. Or... will it be too much? The K2 box was extrememly
small  but I assume the K3 to be a bit bigger.

Are - LB3SA
KX1 - K2 - K3 on order


33 x 33 x 40 cm (w d h)

In checked baggage, you'd probably need even more popcorn.

73
LA4RT Jon

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - shipping size?

[LB3SA]

Thanks for all the responses! It was very useful.

If I had travelled myself I would have brought it. But since it will be a
colleague it sounds like it's best to send it over with UPS. That way I'm
reasonably sure it'll get here in one piece.

Are


Jon K Hellan wrote:
 
 LB3SA wrote:
 My K3 (kit form) is soon ready to be shipped. A friend of mine is in the
 US
 though and I was going to ask him to bring it home in his suitcase.
 Could anyone tell me how big the boxes are? I assume it can be taken out
 of
 the 'main box' (if there is such a thing) and maybe distributed various
 places in a suitcase. Or... will it be too much? The K2 box was
 extrememly
 small  but I assume the K3 to be a bit bigger.
 
 Are - LB3SA
 KX1 - K2 - K3 on order
 
 33 x 33 x 40 cm (w d h)
 
 In checked baggage, you'd probably need even more popcorn.
 
 73
 LA4RT Jon
 
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[Elecraft] K3: shipping status updated

[DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL]

http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_shipping_status.htm

Between now through Friday July 25th  we should be shipping K3 orders
received through March 13th.

New K3 orders received are targeted for delivery four months after
order date.  
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[Elecraft] K3: shipping status reality check

[DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL]

Rich, G4ZFE/9M2CNC said,

Ordered: 16th February 2008
Katie-gram received: 26th June 2008
UPS shipment e-mail: 27th June
UPS delivery at home: 30th June (08:48 BST)


Elecraft shipping status
http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_shipping_status.htm reads,

Between [they mean from] now through Friday July 11th  we should be
shipping K3 orders received through Feb 18th.


ERGO
There are a TON of orders from the 16th through the 18th, or.
Eric and Wayne are ahead of schedule, or.
They all plan on taking a nice, long July 4th holiday weekend

de Doug KR2Q
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: shipping status reality check

[Randy Downs]

Katie said mine will ship this week. Ordered 2-17-08.
Randy
K8RDD
- Original Message - 
From: DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 5:14 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3: shipping status reality check



Rich, G4ZFE/9M2CNC said,

Ordered: 16th February 2008
Katie-gram received: 26th June 2008
UPS shipment e-mail: 27th June
UPS delivery at home: 30th June (08:48 BST)


Elecraft shipping status
http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_shipping_status.htm reads,

Between [they mean from] now through Friday July 11th  we should be
shipping K3 orders received through Feb 18th.


ERGO
There are a TON of orders from the 16th through the 18th, or.
Eric and Wayne are ahead of schedule, or.
They all plan on taking a nice, long July 4th holiday weekend

de Doug KR2Q
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: shipping status reality check

[Ed K1EP]

Or they are shipping radios that were on hold due to the sub Rx
Or they are shipping sub Rxs
Or they are manning hoses and fighting brush fires


At 7/1/2008 05:14 PM, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote:

Rich, G4ZFE/9M2CNC said,

Ordered: 16th February 2008
Katie-gram received: 26th June 2008
UPS shipment e-mail: 27th June
UPS delivery at home: 30th June (08:48 BST)


Elecraft shipping status
http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_shipping_status.htm reads,

Between [they mean from] now through Friday July 11th  we should be
shipping K3 orders received through Feb 18th.


ERGO
There are a TON of orders from the 16th through the 18th, or.
Eric and Wayne are ahead of schedule, or.
They all plan on taking a nice, long July 4th holiday weekend

de Doug KR2Q
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Shipping Costs to Australia

[G4ILO]

Shane White wrote:
 
 
 
 G4ILO wrote:
 
 I didn't get the option of using the postal service here to the UK
 because the maximum insurance was not enough to cover the value of the
 shipment. I assume that you just looked at the website, which doesn't
 understand this, rather than contacting Elecraft Sales direct.
 
 
 That seems odd considering I had to enter my country and post code.
 Wouldn't this make the quotes provided meaningless? 
 
 
I guess whoever coded the website didn't do it to take account of the value
of the shipment, only its weight. Eric has already replied to the effect
that UPS costs to some countries are less than those shown on the site so
the short answer to your question is probably yes.

-
Julian, G4ILO  K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392
G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com
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[Elecraft] K3 Shipping Costs to Australia

[Johnny Siu]

Hello Kevin,

The prices of ham gears in Hong Kong are far lower than that in VK.  Therefore, 
I often help Aussie hams in sourcing their gears from Hong Kong though I am not 
a radio dealer.

To my knowledge, postal service is seldom challenged by VK customs.  As long as 
you declare the items as amateur radio kits and under A$1,000, you have no need 
to pay any GST.

One more point - don't send two parcels together in one go. Otherwise, VK 
customs will add up the total value of all the parcels and charge you GST 
accordingly.

73

Johnny Siu VR2XMC


--- 2008年6月26日 星期四，KBG Luxford [EMAIL PROTECTED] 寫道﹕

 寄件人: KBG Luxford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 主題: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Costs to Australia
 收件人: Shane White [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 日期: 2008 6 26 星期四 下午 12:38
 Hi Shane and everyone,
 
 This may not be much of a help, but I am an Aussie amateur
 who has 
 bought a K2 and KAT100, KPA100 and other accessories from
 Elecraft.  I 
 have always specified USPS (the US Postal Service) and so
 far, have not 
 had a problem, except that in two small parcels a toroid
 has arrived 
 broken.  Elecraft replaced these promptly
 
 The Australian Customs / Australian Post Office normally do
 not charge 
 the 10% GST unless the value of the parcel plus postage
 exceeds 
 AUD1000.00  I can not say for certain that this is their
 absolute policy 
 - just my experience so far.
 
 USPS air mail options normally get here within 10 business
 days.  This 
 time includes freight from Aptos, all the security checks
 at this end 
 and delivery to my door.
 
 I do not think that the extra charged by the couriers for
 three day 
 delivery is worth it.
 
 73
 Kevin
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping date - April order

[Paul G4LNA]

Thanks Bill,

Yes that is useful to know, I ordered mine on the 14th April.

Paul G4LNA.


nz0t wrote:
 
 I was told yesterday that my K3 kit ordered 4/11/08 would most likely be
 shipped 4 months 3 weeks after the order date or about September 1st.  I
 thought this info would be helpful to all who ordered around that time.
 As always Elecraft was quick, professional and friendly with their
 response.
 
 Bill NZ0T
 

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[Elecraft] K3 Shipping Costs to Australia

[Shane White]

For all you guys in the US, I have listed below the alternative shipping
costs for my K3 order which I'll place soon. I live in South Australia.

US Postal Priority Mail International = $131
US Postal Priority Mail International = $164
UPS Worldwide Expedited  = $372
UPS Worldwide Express = $410

How risky is it to use the US Postal service? I'm worried about the delivery
taking a month or two and the package arriving in more bits than when it was
sent.

Thanks,
Shane
VK5ABQ  
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[Elecraft] K3 Shipping date - April order

[nz0t]

I was told yesterday that my K3 kit ordered 4/11/08 would most likely be
shipped 4 months 3 weeks after the order date or about September 1st.  I
thought this info would be helpful to all who ordered around that time.
As always Elecraft was quick, professional and friendly with their response.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Shipping Costs to Australia

[nz0t]

Does it have to be shipped upside down to work properly in Australia



Shane White wrote:
 
 For all you guys in the US, I have listed below the alternative shipping
 costs for my K3 order which I'll place soon. I live in South Australia.
 
 US Postal Priority Mail International = $131
 US Postal Express Mail International = $164
 UPS Worldwide Expedited  = $372
 UPS Worldwide Express = $410
 
 How risky is it to use the US Postal service? I'm worried about the
 delivery taking a month or two and the package arriving in more bits than
 when it was sent.
 
 Thanks,
 Shane
 VK5ABQ  
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Shipping Costs to Australia

[Gregg R. Lengling]

No but it goes down the drain anti-clockwise.

Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI
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Does it have to be shipped upside down to work properly in Australia



Shane White wrote:


For all you guys in the US, I have listed below the alternative shipping
costs for my K3 order which I'll place soon. I live in South Australia.

US Postal Priority Mail International = $131
US Postal Express Mail International = $164
UPS Worldwide Expedited  = $372
UPS Worldwide Express = $410

How risky is it to use the US Postal service? I'm worried about the
delivery taking a month or two and the package arriving in more bits than
when it was sent.

Thanks,
Shane
VK5ABQ



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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Shipping Costs to Australia

[Shane White]

Hey we have electrons here too you know. They deserve as much chance as U.S.
electrons to power a radio.

You guys a just jealous that we're now a fatter nation than you.



Gregg R. Lengling wrote:
 
 No but it goes down the drain anti-clockwise.
 
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 http://forums.ham-radio.ch/
 
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 Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:16 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Shipping Costs to Australia
 
 

 Does it have to be shipped upside down to work properly in Australia



 Shane White wrote:

 For all you guys in the US, I have listed below the alternative shipping
 costs for my K3 order which I'll place soon. I live in South Australia.

 US Postal Priority Mail International = $131
 US Postal Express Mail International = $164
 UPS Worldwide Expedited  = $372
 UPS Worldwide Express = $410

 How risky is it to use the US Postal service? I'm worried about the
 delivery taking a month or two and the package arriving in more bits
 than
 when it was sent.

 Thanks,
 Shane
 VK5ABQ


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Shipping Costs to Australia

[G4ILO]

Shane White wrote:
 
 For all you guys in the US, I have listed below the alternative shipping
 costs for my K3 order which I'll place soon. I live in South Australia.
 
 US Postal Priority Mail International = $131
 US Postal Express Mail International = $164
 UPS Worldwide Expedited  = $372
 UPS Worldwide Express = $410
 
 How risky is it to use the US Postal service? I'm worried about the
 delivery taking a month or two and the package arriving in more bits than
 when it was sent.
 
 Thanks,
 Shane
 VK5ABQ  
 
I didn't get the option of using the postal service here to the UK because
the maximum insurance was not enough to cover the value of the shipment. I
assume that you just looked at the website, which doesn't understand this,
rather than contacting Elecraft Sales direct.

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KComm for K2/K3: www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Costs to Australia

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ Elecraft]

The on-line UPS shipping calculator shows prices on the high side for 
international shipping. We have a discount with UPS to many countries 
and will charge you less than this. (We will always confirm the order 
details and shipping expense on international orders with you before 
shipping.)


73, Eric   WA6HHQ

_..._



Shane White wrote:

For all you guys in the US, I have listed below the alternative shipping
costs for my K3 order which I'll place soon. I live in South Australia.

US Postal Priority Mail International = $131
US Postal Priority Mail International = $164
UPS Worldwide Expedited  = $372
UPS Worldwide Express = $410

How risky is it to use the US Postal service? I'm worried about the delivery
taking a month or two and the package arriving in more bits than when it was
sent.

Thanks,
Shane
VK5ABQ  
  

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Shipping Costs to Australia

[VR2BrettGraham]

W9DHI suggested, after NZ0T asked VK5ABQ if it would
have to be shipped up-side-down:


No but it goes down the drain anti-clockwise.


snip


 For all you guys in the US, I have listed below the alternative shipping
 costs for my K3 order which I'll place soon. I live in South Australia.

 US Postal Priority Mail International = $131
 US Postal Express Mail International = $164
 UPS Worldwide Expedited  = $372
 UPS Worldwide Express = $410

 How risky is it to use the US Postal service? I'm worried about the
 delivery taking a month or two and the package arriving in more bits than
 when it was sent.


Correct: anti-clockwise as opposed to counter-clockwise.  ;^)

Amazingly, I have yet to have USPS destroy anything  I
used to bring a lot of stuff out this way.  Can't say the same
about QSLs, though.  ;^(

Ask for the manual to be left out (very heavy)  if you really
do not trust USPS  wish to insure for the full amount, have
something packed separately - such as the KPA.

73, VR2/KBrett7Graham/p.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Shipping Costs to Australia

[Shane White]

G4ILO wrote:
 
 I didn't get the option of using the postal service here to the UK because
 the maximum insurance was not enough to cover the value of the shipment. I
 assume that you just looked at the website, which doesn't understand this,
 rather than contacting Elecraft Sales direct.
 

That seems odd considering I had to enter my country and post code. Wouldn't
this make the quotes provided meaningless? 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Costs to Australia

[KBG Luxford]

Hi Shane and everyone,

This may not be much of a help, but I am an Aussie amateur who has 
bought a K2 and KAT100, KPA100 and other accessories from Elecraft.  I 
have always specified USPS (the US Postal Service) and so far, have not 
had a problem, except that in two small parcels a toroid has arrived 
broken.  Elecraft replaced these promptly


The Australian Customs / Australian Post Office normally do not charge 
the 10% GST unless the value of the parcel plus postage exceeds 
AUD1000.00  I can not say for certain that this is their absolute policy 
- just my experience so far.


USPS air mail options normally get here within 10 business days.  This 
time includes freight from Aptos, all the security checks at this end 
and delivery to my door.


I do not think that the extra charged by the couriers for three day 
delivery is worth it.


73
Kevin
VK3DAP / ZL2DAP

Shane White wrote:

For all you guys in the US, I have listed below the alternative shipping
costs for my K3 order which I'll place soon. I live in South Australia.

US Postal Priority Mail International = $131
US Postal Priority Mail International = $164
UPS Worldwide Expedited  = $372
UPS Worldwide Express = $410

How risky is it to use the US Postal service? I'm worried about the delivery
taking a month or two and the package arriving in more bits than when it was
sent.

Thanks,
Shane
VK5ABQ  
  

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[Elecraft] K3 Shipping Status

[Brad Johnson]

FYI:

I ordered my K3 on February 11th and just got my Katiegram last night.

73,

Brad
AA5CH

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Status

[Dick Grolleman]

Brad and all others


Just received my Katiegram, for my K3 ordered on Geb 11th. 
Still backordered is the KRX3


73 de Dick PA3FQA

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FYI:

I ordered my K3 on February 11th and just got my Katiegram last night.

73,

Brad
AA5CH

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[Elecraft] K3 Shipping status

[Peter]

   Yes!
   We are in 2008!
   Accoording to the shipping status:
   Between  now  June  14th   we  should  be  shipping K3 orders received
   through January 15th.
   Still 2 months go.
   Peter
   
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping status

[gd0tep]

Ordered mine on the 22nd of January, received email from Katie on Friday.

There's a small delay on the KRX3 Sub Receiver, but it could be shipped soon
if I wanted it.

Andy
http://gd0tep.com


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   Yes!
   We are in 2008!
   Accoording to the shipping status:
   Between  now  June  14th   we  should  be  shipping K3 orders received
   through January 15th.
   Still 2 months go.
   Peter
   
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping to UK

[G4ILO]

David Cutter wrote:
 
 I gave my firm's address, so it came all the way by UPS and what's more
 they 
 didn't want the VAT in advance, it just went on the monthly VAT import
 bill 
 to my firm, so I got more time to pay and no delay.  This is probably a
 tip 
 
Today I got a letter from Parcel Farce demanding the ransom fee. This
includes a GBP 13.50 clearance fee - more than a quarter of the amount of
the VAT. I can pay it online, over the phone or through the post. I paid it
online, and have been given a delivery date of next Tuesday.

I could have gone to the depot to collect it, and had it today, but Parcel
Farce don't use the local Post Office, and the depot is nearly an hour's
drive away. With petrol at over GBP 5 a gallon now (that's 10 USD to the
rest of you) you think twice about getting the car out these days.

I can't remember how much UPS charged for taking the VAT when the K3 came,
but I'm sure it wasn't 13.50, and I was able to pay the driver as well so
delivery wasn't further delayed. I think UPS is probably the best option for
all but the smallest items.

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[Elecraft] K3 Shipping to UK

[Stephen Prior]

I'd be grateful for any feedback from UK amateurs as to their experiences
with the various shipping options.

When I last looked, UPS seems more expensive, but since USPS post goes
through Parcel Farce (intended 'typo'!) I would, in fact consider paying
more for UPS.  Does UPS charge the same sort of handling fee that Parcel
Force does I wonder?  I know UPS tracking is superb having used it before.

I'd be grateful for information before the imminent (ordered 24th December)
Katiegram!

Thanks

Stephen G4SJP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping to UK

[WILLIS COOKE]

--- Stephen Prior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'd be grateful for any feedback from UK amateurs as
 to their experiences
 with the various shipping options.
 
 When I last looked, UPS seems more expensive, but
 since USPS post goes
 through Parcel Farce (intended 'typo'!) I would, in
 fact consider paying
 more for UPS.  Does UPS charge the same sort of
 handling fee that Parcel
 Force does I wonder?  I know UPS tracking is superb
 having used it before.
 
 I'd be grateful for information before the imminent
 (ordered 24th December)
 Katiegram!
 
 Thanks
 
 Stephen G4SJP
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Well, now I know of at least one order between the
December 21 order and mine on December 27.  How many
more ordered their own Christmas Present?



Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping to UK

[G4ILO]

Stephen Prior wrote:
 
 I'd be grateful for any feedback from UK amateurs as to their experiences
 with the various shipping options.
 
 When I last looked, UPS seems more expensive, but since USPS post goes
 through Parcel Farce (intended 'typo'!) I would, in fact consider paying
 more for UPS.  Does UPS charge the same sort of handling fee that Parcel
 Force does I wonder?  I know UPS tracking is superb having used it before.
 
 I'd be grateful for information before the imminent (ordered 24th
 December)
 Katiegram!
 
 
If you are ordering a whole K3 then I don't think you have any option other
than UPS, because the maximum insurance available with USPS is not enough to
cover the value of the radio.

However, whatever you are ordering it is probably worth paying the extra for
UPS anyway unless you are willing to be very patient. My eagerly awaited KPA
was despatched from Aptos on 8th May and I am still waiting for it! It took
3 days to reach British customs, the bureaucrats took 4 days to decide how
much money I have to give our useless government to squander, so it left
customs yesterday evening. Now it all depends on whether Parcel Farce
manages to lose it or not.

Incidentally the KK7UQ IMD meter I ordered at the same time as the KPA was
shipped by US Interface in an official USPS cardboard mailer and took only 4
days to arrive. It was delivered by good old Royal Mail and must have
bypassed customs because there was no VAT to pay whatever. Let's hope they
don't read this reflector!

-
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping to UK

[Ian White GM3SEK]

Stephen Wrote:


I'd be grateful for any feedback from UK amateurs as to their experiences
with the various shipping options.

When I last looked, UPS seems more expensive, but since USPS post goes
through Parcel Farce (intended 'typo'!) I would, in fact consider paying
more for UPS.  Does UPS charge the same sort of handling fee that Parcel
Force does I wonder?  I know UPS tracking is superb having used it before.

I'd be grateful for information before the imminent (ordered 24th December)
Katiegram!


If you originally specified USPS, Katie will be recommending that you 
upgrade to UPS, because the postal services don't offer sufficient 
insurance cover.


The day after the package had left Aptos, UPS were calling from East 
Midlands Airport with the ransom demand for VAT. That can be paid by 
plastic over the phone.


Delivery was the following day, with nothing more to pay.


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http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping to UK

[David Cutter]

I gave my firm's address, so it came all the way by UPS and what's more they 
didn't want the VAT in advance, it just went on the monthly VAT import bill 
to my firm, so I got more time to pay and no delay.  This is probably a tip 
!


David
G3UNA 


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[Elecraft] K3: Shipping status page updated (wow!)

[DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL]

Check it out.

Between now and Friday, April 19th, we should be shipping K3 orders
received through Nov 14th.

de Doug KR2Q
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Shipping status page updated (wow!)

[dj7mgq]

Between now and Friday, April 19th, we should be shipping K3 orders
received through Nov 14th.


Also of interest: We're still on track to ship the first group of  
KRX3s on the 25th. We will pause for several weeks after that to make  
sure there are no problems in the field with the first units and then  
resume shipping in full volume. (We will be building KRX3s during this  
period.)


Now I start to wonder if K3 #67 is low enough to be one of the  
selected few or if the wait will continue and continue and continue  
and continue... ;-)


Lots of good news this morning!

vy 73 de toby
--
DD5FZ (ex 4n6fz, dj7mgq, dg5mgq, dd5fz)
K2 #885
K2/100 #3248
K3/100 #67

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[Elecraft] K3 Shipping rates

[Brett Howard]

Well we've crossed 500 so I've updated this link with a new image...  I'll
do another when we cross 600.

http://www.livecomputers.com/web_pics/K3_Build_Rate.png


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[Elecraft] K3: shipping status

[Mike B]

Not to drag up more ill feelings, but where is Elecraft at in the last few days 
as far as order dates being ready to ship?  I know about the status page; I'm 
looking for who has been contacted in the last few days.  Per the status page, 
my 6/6  order date should be coming up by the end of this coming week.


73,

Mike
KW1ND
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[Elecraft] K3 Shipping Status

[Dave Agsten]

I'm wondering if anyone has heard of K3 shipping dates
for orders later than May 25th? I received an invoice
number/notice last Sunday but one item was missing
from it. I notified Lisa of the issue immediately and
was told I'd receive a corrected invoice. I've heard
nothing since. The original invoice said the radio
would ship in 5 to 7 daysfrom last Sunday. Even if
that's business days, I would think I should have
heard something by now. Tuesday, the 12th would be 7
business days. 

Any updates from anyone?

Tnx es 73,
Dave N8AG


  

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[Elecraft] K3 Shipping Status Updated

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

I've just updated our K3 shipping status web page:


K3 Orders targeted to Ship between Feb 1 -15: 

Between now and Feb 15 we should be shipping K3 orders received through 
June 6th.
We expect to ship orders received through June 20th the following week, 
Feb. 18-22.


We have completed shipping deposit orders allocated for the first 
production run and are now shipping all the remaining orders in order of 
date received.




73, Eric   WA6HHQ

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[Elecraft] K3-Shipping Status-Just Curious

[David and Dianne on Comcast]

Hi Everyone,

I'm just curious if anyone who ordered a K3 on or after May 15th without 
a deposit has received their unit or been contacted about a possible 
shipping date yet.


Please reply off list to conserve bandwidth here.

Thanks and 73 de N1LQ-Dave
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[Elecraft] K3 Shipping Advice

[Stewart Baker]

Received mail from Lisa that my K3/100 will be shipping in 3-5
days.  YIPPEE  :-) :-) :-)

Ordered 2nd May 07. No deposit.

73
Stewart G3RXQ
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[Elecraft] K3 Shipping Notice

[Phil Debbie Salas]

I received my notice from Lisa last night at 8:27PM that my K3 will ship in 
3-5 days!!  It was ordered May 2 with no deposit.


Phil - AD5X 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Notice

[W6NEK]

I also received notice last night from Lisa that my K3/100 Kit will ship in 
3-5 days.  My order was placed on May 5th with NO deposit.  Looks like 
Elecraft is picking up steam in K3 deliveries.  Good news for everyone!


Frank - W6NEK

- Original Message - 
From: Phil  Debbie Salas [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 4:36 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Notice


I received my notice from Lisa last night at 8:27PM that my K3 will ship in 
3-5 days!!  It was ordered May 2 with no deposit.


Phil - AD5X


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[Elecraft] K3 shipping date

[John]

New K3 orders are now targeted for mid April delivery. 

Not to worry, we all know how fast the time goes between now and the 
15th of April.


john
k7up


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Status Update on Web Site

[Stewart Baker]

Not onto the ones without deposits yet.
K3/100 ordered 2nd May 07 no deposit.

Stewart G3RXQ
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:44:17 -0800 (PST), AD6XY - Mike wrote:


 Ken K3IU wrote:

 Eric usually updates it on Tuesday afternoon (Pacific Coast
time)...
 today.


 But didn't. I agree the lack of updated info is most
frustrating. I believe
 they are still working through orders up to May 14th, possibly
now the ones
 without deposits.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Status Update on Web Site

[Geoffrey Downs]

Mike AD6XY wrote:


I believe they are still working through orders up to May 14th, possibly 
now the ones

without deposits.


Nothing heard yet re mine ordered May 11 with deposit, but hoping I'll hear 
something soon.


Yesterday David G4DMP was kind enough to let me play with his K3 #186, that 
he received (kit) last week. It has increased my enthusiasm!


73 all,

Geoff
G3UCK 


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[Elecraft] K3 Shipping Status Update on Web Site

[Joe-aa4nn]

I have a May 22nd order with deposit.  I must be about 40db down.
de Joe, aa4nn


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Status Update on Web Site

[Stewart Baker]

Joe,
It will be interesting to see if you are classed in the low
serial number with deposit 1st batch, or a late arrival.
I have somewhat lost the plot, against what was promised.

73
Stewart G3RXQ

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:11:41 -0500, Joe-aa4nn wrote:
 I have a May 22nd order with deposit.  I must be about 40db
down.
 de Joe, aa4nn


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[Elecraft] K3 Shipping Status As of 1/16/08 now posted Elecraft Web Site

[W6NEK]

Updated shipping schedule has been posted on the web site.

73,
Frank - W6NEK
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Status Update on Web Site

[Neill Taylor]

Don't get too excited.  I have still heard nothing from my 7th May 
(with deposit) order.


Neill
G4HLX / F5VLD


At 11:14 16/01/2008 +, you wrote:

Mike AD6XY wrote:


I believe they are still working through orders up to May 14th, 
possibly now the ones

without deposits.


Nothing heard yet re mine ordered May 11 with deposit, but hoping 
I'll hear something soon.


Yesterday David G4DMP was kind enough to let me play with his K3 
#186, that he received (kit) last week. It has increased my enthusiasm!


73 all,

Geoff
G3UCK



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[Elecraft] K3 Shipping Status Update on Web Site

[charles]

The K3 shipping status on the web site was last updated on December 27th, 2007
that was 19 days ago.
Hoping not to slow down the production line, but when can we expect a new 
shipping status update soon?

Charles - M0BIN K2/100 5901 K3 awaited :-)
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Status Update on Web Site

[Ken K3IU]

Eric usually updates it on Tuesday afternoon (Pacific Coast time)... today.

charles wrote:

The K3 shipping status on the web site was last updated on December 27th, 2007
that was 19 days ago.
Hoping not to slow down the production line, but when can we expect a new 
shipping status update soon?


Charles - M0BIN K2/100 5901 K3 awaited :-)

  

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Status Update on Web Site

[AD6XY - Mike]

Ken K3IU wrote:
 
 Eric usually updates it on Tuesday afternoon (Pacific Coast time)...
 today.
 
 

But didn't. I agree the lack of updated info is most frustrating. I believe
they are still working through orders up to May 14th, possibly now the ones
without deposits.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Status Update

[AD6XY - Mike]

Thanks for this update - I trust you had a merry Christmans and will have a
happy new year.

The thing of most interest to me is what is a realistic last order date for
K3 parts to be collected at Dayton (assuming you are going to Dayton).  I am
thinking in particular here of items like the second receiver. Others of
course may be interested in a complete K3. 

For non USA buyers, anything due after mid-late April might as well be
collected as posted.  Avoiding the shipping is a good excuse to go to
Dayton. 
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[Elecraft] K3 Shipping Status Update

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

We've just updated the K3 shipping Status Page.

Shipping for the weeks of Jan 2-4 and 7-11:

(Orders with deposits):  
We have a short shipping week next week, due to the New Year's holiday 
on 12/31-1/1, but we are still working over this next weekend (Dec 
29-30)  to get ahead. We're ramping up our ship rate and we will ship 
the few remaining May 3rd orders,  and the May 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9th 
orders during this period.


We have also added staff (and overtime) in production and test and hope 
to beat the above plan. (We're still adding more help over the next 2 
weeks.)


73, Eric  WA6HHQ

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[Elecraft] K3: shipping - to the point

[DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL]

Hi there K3 owners-in-waiting:

By this time, it must be crystal clear that the boyz in Aptos were
irrationally exuberant in their projections of how fast the K3 would
get out the door.  It has recently been stated by the boyz that,
effectively, we don't know.  That is the most honest statement and
one which I stated (and urged) here months ago.

But the key phrase above is CRYSTAL CLEAR...which refers to the buyers.

Every time I see a posting about a new shipping update I wince
before I click on the link.  But for now, that is all I do.  It is
what it is.

I bought (ordered) the K3 because of (a) incredible specs, (b) my own
experience with the K2, (c) personal excitement about getting a new
rig, (d) UNREAL low price for what I would get performance-wise, and
(e) disregard for my own well-established rules about buying a cat
in a bag.

Before I left for Dayton, I told my wife that I was going to buy the
K3 and she said, No you're not.  I laughed and said, Why not?  And
her reply was word-for-word exactly me.  She said, 1.  Nobody has one
yet.  2.  It hasn't been out one year.  3.  It has not been reviewed
by ARRL or RadCom.  4.  You haven't played with one yet.  5.  Fellow
contesters, based on first hand experience, have not commented on its
performance yet.  Yup...I knowingly ignored over 40 years of
rule-building when it comes to buying a new contest radio.  I was
psyched.

At this time, I have chosen to sit it out because, quite frankly,
there is nothing else out there that I would buy.  It's a K3 or
nothing.  AND...for me, contest season is over for 2007 (save the
Stew Perry Top Band) and I know that I won't my radio will not be here
by then either.  So further angst is now completely fruitless.  So is
getting pissed.  I STILL WANT THE RADIO.

I am not suggesting that those who want to comment on delivery stop
doing so.  I am suggesting a possible alternative perspective (way of
thinking) while we all squirm in anticipation of the Lisa
communication.

de Doug KR2Q
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Status Update 11/26/07

[Craig Rairdin]

 As far as shipping units that had no deposit/full payment 
 before those that had been partially/fully paidI think 
 if that has happened in the first batch, it's really shoddy 
 treatment for those who gave Elecraft financial aid with 
 their deposits or prepayments.  

Let's clarify what those of us who made a deposit were promised: We were
told if we made a deposit we would be assured of being in the FIRST 200
SERIAL NUMBERS (until those were sold, of course). If only 100 deposits were
made, then Elecraft could ship in order-date order and still be keeping its
promise. If 200 deposits were made and the production run was increased to
300, Elecraft could ship in order-date order but reserve serial numbers
below 220 for deposit-makers and still be keeping its promise.

If more deposits were made than there were units in the first production
run, and if serial numbers  220 are not being reserved for the first 200
deposit-makers, then Elecraft isn't keeping its promise to those who made
deposits.

Consider the possibility that there were 199 deposits made in the first 1000
orders, then the 200th deposit was made. If Elecraft sends serial number 220
to the 1001st customer, they would be fulfilling the promise to
deposit-makers even if the other 1000 radios get shipped first.

Since we don't know the number of deposits made or the size of the first (or
any) product run, we can't say for sure whether or not this promise is being
kept. We can only give them the benefit of the doubt. Note that if you order
today and make a deposit, there's no benefit other than the good feeling
that comes from helping Elecraft improve its cash flow during a time when
cash flow is dependant on shipping radios that are apparently hard to ship
in quantity.

Craig
NZ0R
K3/100 #25



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