[Elecraft] K3 won't PTT in data

[Tim Urban]

Trying to run my K3 on PSK31 in data A mode w a tigertronics USB interface and 
digipan software. 

 The box connects to K3 via line in/out jacks and the rear panel PTT jack. All 
jumpers in interface are set correctly. When the software goes to TX, the 
interface box goes to TX, and the phono plug from the box that plugs into the 
K3 PTT jack goes to ground. 

The K3 however doesn't go into TX mode, unless you also key the hand mike. 

Using the hand mike switch as a manual PTT switch I made several PSK31 QSOs 
tonight so the sound card chip in the tigertronics box is apparently working. 

Just for kicks I tried using the rs232 rig control and digipan to try to 
trigger TX that way as described in elecrafts K3 operating hints, and the rig 
would not go into TX mode that way, either. 

Is there a selection in the menus that I am overlooking that will allow the 
rear panel PTT jack to trigger TX mode while in Data A?

73

Tim
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[Elecraft] K3 won't PTT in data...

[John Ragle]

This is a subject that has been aired many times on the server...(a) the 
combination you are using (which is the same as mine) works just fine, & 
(b) you must be sure the K3 is IN VOX mode -- examine the display to 
make sure that VOX shows above the AGC entry to the mid-left of the 
screen. If it does not, the SignaLink will not work (i.e. the transmit 
lite will come on but you wiull get no action from the K3. Just press 
and hold the BAND DOWN side of the band button. I have put myself in the 
condition you describe numerous times by leaning too long on the band 
button. Ignore those who tell you to dump the SignaLink...it is an 
outstanding piece of hardware...I have two of them, one of which I used 
on an ICOM 910H and the other which I use on my K3 and on my K2 before 
it. You can use it with the K3 set on sideband, and with a super program 
like FLDIGI it works extremely well with RTTY and the myriad other 
digital modes. Its ability to work with SSB means you can even talk to 
the "upside-down" RTTY people on 10 meters from eastern Europe (using 
LSB) without gyrations.

John Ragle -- W1ZI

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 won't PTT in data

[Mark Kachel]

Try VOX and skip everthing except the computer, two cables for audio either 
way, Digipan and the K3.

Mark, NØOKS
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 won't PTT in data

[Dave Johnson]

Tim

I run fldigi with my K3, no need for any interface, just sound card
cables and RS232. The program is free from http://www.w1hkj.com/

You also need to download the "K3.xml" file (from the above page) and
it works... You don't need the companion program "flrig" as the fldigi
program itself reads the frequency and keys the K3 via RS232.

73 Dave, G4AON

Trying to run my K3 on PSK31 in data A mode w a tigertronics USB
interface and digipan software.

The box connects to K3 via line in/out jacks and the rear panel PTT
jack. All jumpers in interface are set correctly. When the software
goes to TX, the interface box goes to TX, and the phono plug from the
box that plugs into the K3 PTT jack goes to ground.

The K3 however doesn't go into TX mode, unless you also key the hand mike.

Tim
N5IIT
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 won't PTT in data

[Ian Kahn]

Tim,

Make sure you have MIC SEL on the MAIN menu set to PH+Line-In.  This allows
the back line-in jack to be active for transmit/receive on the back panel
Line-In port.  I also use the SignaLink with my K3 and don't have any
issues with this setting.

Hope this helps.

73,

--Ian
 Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik@gmail.com
K3 #231, P3 #688

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Tim Urban  wrote:

> Trying to run my K3 on PSK31 in data A mode w a tigertronics USB interface
> and digipan software.
>
>  The box connects to K3 via line in/out jacks and the rear panel PTT jack.
> All jumpers in interface are set correctly. When the software goes to TX,
> the interface box goes to TX, and the phono plug from the box that plugs
> into the K3 PTT jack goes to ground.
>
> The K3 however doesn't go into TX mode, unless you also key the hand mike.
>
> Using the hand mike switch as a manual PTT switch I made several PSK31
> QSOs tonight so the sound card chip in the tigertronics box is apparently
> working.
>
> Just for kicks I tried using the rs232 rig control and digipan to try to
> trigger TX that way as described in elecrafts K3 operating hints, and the
> rig would not go into TX mode that way, either.
>
> Is there a selection in the menus that I am overlooking that will allow
> the rear panel PTT jack to trigger TX mode while in Data A?
>
> 73
>
> Tim
> N5IIT
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 won't PTT in data

[Don Wilhelm]

Tim,

You say that the PTT output from the Tigertronics jack goes to ground, 
but that does not cause the K3 to go into transmit -- I think something 
is awry in that area.

Think cable - have you checked the cable between the Tigertronics and 
the K3 PTT jack?  Pull the cable off the Tigertronics end and short 
across the connector - does the K3 go into TX?  If not, try another 
cable.  If the K3 does go into TX, then your interface is not connecting 
its PTT output to ground.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/25/2012 10:45 PM, Tim Urban wrote:
> Trying to run my K3 on PSK31 in data A mode w a tigertronics USB interface 
> and digipan software.
>
>   The box connects to K3 via line in/out jacks and the rear panel PTT jack. 
> All jumpers in interface are set correctly. When the software goes to TX, the 
> interface box goes to TX, and the phono plug from the box that plugs into the 
> K3 PTT jack goes to ground.
>
> The K3 however doesn't go into TX mode, unless you also key the hand mike.
>
> Using the hand mike switch as a manual PTT switch I made several PSK31 QSOs 
> tonight so the sound card chip in the tigertronics box is apparently working.
>
> Just for kicks I tried using the rs232 rig control and digipan to try to 
> trigger TX that way as described in elecrafts K3 operating hints, and the rig 
> would not go into TX mode that way, either.
>
> Is there a selection in the menus that I am overlooking that will allow the 
> rear panel PTT jack to trigger TX mode while in Data A?
>
> 73
>
> Tim
> N5IIT
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 won't PTT in data...

[Mike]

I have an ongoing, long standing problem with using VOX to key the K3 in Data 
mode.

My sound card is a Creative USB dongle. I use a CM500 headset/mic, plugged into 
the 
back panel. If I get the mix of volume, line in level and VOX gain high enough 
to 
reliably key the rig, the smallest noise in the room gets to the mic and keys 
the rig.

Am I missing something?

Mike, NF4L

On 1/26/2012 8:47 AM, John Ragle wrote:
> This is a subject that has been aired many times on the server...(a) the
> combination you are using (which is the same as mine) works just fine,&
> (b) you must be sure the K3 is IN VOX mode -- examine the display to
> make sure that VOX shows above the AGC entry to the mid-left of the
> screen. If it does not, the SignaLink will not work (i.e. the transmit
> lite will come on but you wiull get no action from the K3. Just press
> and hold the BAND DOWN side of the band button. I have put myself in the
> condition you describe numerous times by leaning too long on the band
> button. Ignore those who tell you to dump the SignaLink...it is an
> outstanding piece of hardware...I have two of them, one of which I used
> on an ICOM 910H and the other which I use on my K3 and on my K2 before
> it. You can use it with the K3 set on sideband, and with a super program
> like FLDIGI it works extremely well with RTTY and the myriad other
> digital modes. Its ability to work with SSB means you can even talk to
> the "upside-down" RTTY people on 10 meters from eastern Europe (using
> LSB) without gyrations.
>
> John Ragle -- W1ZI
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 won't PTT in data...

[Thomas Horsten]

I don't get it, when you are in DATA mode it takes the Line In signal and
ignores the microphone input if you've configured the rig correctly, any
input on the Microphone line should be completely ignored and VOX should
work 100%.

Still, on the K3 there is absolutely no need for any external interface
like SignaLink (unless you just want to use it for it's built in USB sound
card, but there are many cheaper options available), just hook up the K3 to
the PC with standard audio cables and a serial cable/USB-serial converter,
and use soft-keying (available with fldigi and hopefully other decent
digimode programs), this also gives you full rig control...

73, Thomas M0TRN

On 26 January 2012 14:48, Mike  wrote:

> I have an ongoing, long standing problem with using VOX to key the K3 in
> Data mode.
>
> My sound card is a Creative USB dongle. I use a CM500 headset/mic, plugged
> into the
> back panel. If I get the mix of volume, line in level and VOX gain high
> enough to
> reliably key the rig, the smallest noise in the room gets to the mic and
> keys the rig.
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> Mike, NF4L
>
> On 1/26/2012 8:47 AM, John Ragle wrote:
> > This is a subject that has been aired many times on the server...(a) the
> > combination you are using (which is the same as mine) works just fine,&
> > (b) you must be sure the K3 is IN VOX mode -- examine the display to
> > make sure that VOX shows above the AGC entry to the mid-left of the
> > screen. If it does not, the SignaLink will not work (i.e. the transmit
> > lite will come on but you wiull get no action from the K3. Just press
> > and hold the BAND DOWN side of the band button. I have put myself in the
> > condition you describe numerous times by leaning too long on the band
> > button. Ignore those who tell you to dump the SignaLink...it is an
> > outstanding piece of hardware...I have two of them, one of which I used
> > on an ICOM 910H and the other which I use on my K3 and on my K2 before
> > it. You can use it with the K3 set on sideband, and with a super program
> > like FLDIGI it works extremely well with RTTY and the myriad other
> > digital modes. Its ability to work with SSB means you can even talk to
> > the "upside-down" RTTY people on 10 meters from eastern Europe (using
> > LSB) without gyrations.
> >
> > John Ragle -- W1ZI
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 won't PTT in data...

[Mike]

Data|AFSK A uses SSB mode internally, so the mic is live, I suppose. I have no 
interface, that was the OP, not me.

73, Mike NF4L

On 1/26/2012 9:53 AM, Thomas Horsten wrote:
> I don't get it, when you are in DATA mode it takes the Line In signal and 
> ignores 
> the microphone input if you've configured the rig correctly, any input on the 
> Microphone line should be completely ignored and VOX should work 100%.
>
> Still, on the K3 there is absolutely no need for any external interface like 
> SignaLink (unless you just want to use it for it's built in USB sound card, 
> but 
> there are many cheaper options available), just hook up the K3 to the PC with 
> standard audio cables and a serial cable/USB-serial converter, and use 
> soft-keying 
> (available with fldigi and hopefully other decent digimode programs), this 
> also 
> gives you full rig control...
>
> 73, Thomas M0TRN
>
> On 26 January 2012 14:48, Mike mailto:n...@nf4l.com>> wrote:
>
> I have an ongoing, long standing problem with using VOX to key the K3 in 
> Data mode.
>
> My sound card is a Creative USB dongle. I use a CM500 headset/mic, 
> plugged into the
> back panel. If I get the mix of volume, line in level and VOX gain high 
> enough to
> reliably key the rig, the smallest noise in the room gets to the mic and 
> keys
> the rig.
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> Mike, NF4L
>
> On 1/26/2012 8:47 AM, John Ragle wrote:
> > This is a subject that has been aired many times on the server...(a) the
> > combination you are using (which is the same as mine) works just fine,&
> > (b) you must be sure the K3 is IN VOX mode -- examine the display to
> > make sure that VOX shows above the AGC entry to the mid-left of the
> > screen. If it does not, the SignaLink will not work (i.e. the transmit
> > lite will come on but you wiull get no action from the K3. Just press
> > and hold the BAND DOWN side of the band button. I have put myself in the
> > condition you describe numerous times by leaning too long on the band
> > button. Ignore those who tell you to dump the SignaLink...it is an
> > outstanding piece of hardware...I have two of them, one of which I used
> > on an ICOM 910H and the other which I use on my K3 and on my K2 before
> > it. You can use it with the K3 set on sideband, and with a super program
> > like FLDIGI it works extremely well with RTTY and the myriad other
> > digital modes. Its ability to work with SSB means you can even talk to
> > the "upside-down" RTTY people on 10 meters from eastern Europe (using
> > LSB) without gyrations.
> >
> > John Ragle -- W1ZI
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 won't PTT in data...

[Mike]

After some nudges from the community prompted me to experiment further, I 
changed MIC 
SEL from MIC+LIN to rP.H ant turned MIC+LIN on. That seems to have fixed it.

73, Mike NF4L

On 1/26/2012 9:48 AM, Mike wrote:
> I have an ongoing, long standing problem with using VOX to key the K3 in Data 
> mode.
>
> My sound card is a Creative USB dongle. I use a CM500 headset/mic, plugged 
> into the
> back panel. If I get the mix of volume, line in level and VOX gain high 
> enough to
> reliably key the rig, the smallest noise in the room gets to the mic and keys 
> the rig.
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> Mike, NF4L


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 won't PTT in data...

[Thomas Horsten]

Mike,

While in data mode, press Menu, dial to "MIC SEL", ensure it's set to "Line
In" not "RPL" or "FPL" (right or front panel), now the mic should
definitely not be live and if it is (and triggers VOX), you have a problem
with your rig and it needs to be fixed before you use data modes again.

The selection is remembered separately for the DATA modes and SSB.

No matter how loud I scream into the microphone I cannot activate VOX
whilst in data mode. If the mic was live in data mode it would be
appalling, you'd be putting background noise splatter in the PSK31
passband, for example!

73, Thomas

On 26 January 2012 19:15, Mike  wrote:

> Data|AFSK A uses SSB mode internally, so the mic is live, I suppose. I
> have no
> interface, that was the OP, not me.
>
> 73, Mike NF4L
>
> On 1/26/2012 9:53 AM, Thomas Horsten wrote:
> > I don't get it, when you are in DATA mode it takes the Line In signal
> and ignores
> > the microphone input if you've configured the rig correctly, any input
> on the
> > Microphone line should be completely ignored and VOX should work 100%.
> >
> > Still, on the K3 there is absolutely no need for any external interface
> like
> > SignaLink (unless you just want to use it for it's built in USB sound
> card, but
> > there are many cheaper options available), just hook up the K3 to the PC
> with
> > standard audio cables and a serial cable/USB-serial converter, and use
> soft-keying
> > (available with fldigi and hopefully other decent digimode programs),
> this also
> > gives you full rig control...
> >
> > 73, Thomas M0TRN
> >
> > On 26 January 2012 14:48, Mike mailto:n...@nf4l.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > I have an ongoing, long standing problem with using VOX to key the
> K3 in Data mode.
> >
> > My sound card is a Creative USB dongle. I use a CM500 headset/mic,
> plugged into the
> > back panel. If I get the mix of volume, line in level and VOX gain
> high enough to
> > reliably key the rig, the smallest noise in the room gets to the mic
> and keys
> > the rig.
> >
> > Am I missing something?
> >
> > Mike, NF4L
> >
> > On 1/26/2012 8:47 AM, John Ragle wrote:
> > > This is a subject that has been aired many times on the
> server...(a) the
> > > combination you are using (which is the same as mine) works just
> fine,&
> > > (b) you must be sure the K3 is IN VOX mode -- examine the display
> to
> > > make sure that VOX shows above the AGC entry to the mid-left of the
> > > screen. If it does not, the SignaLink will not work (i.e. the
> transmit
> > > lite will come on but you wiull get no action from the K3. Just
> press
> > > and hold the BAND DOWN side of the band button. I have put myself
> in the
> > > condition you describe numerous times by leaning too long on the
> band
> > > button. Ignore those who tell you to dump the SignaLink...it is an
> > > outstanding piece of hardware...I have two of them, one of which I
> used
> > > on an ICOM 910H and the other which I use on my K3 and on my K2
> before
> > > it. You can use it with the K3 set on sideband, and with a super
> program
> > > like FLDIGI it works extremely well with RTTY and the myriad other
> > > digital modes. Its ability to work with SSB means you can even
> talk to
> > > the "upside-down" RTTY people on 10 meters from eastern Europe
> (using
> > > LSB) without gyrations.
> > >
> > > John Ragle -- W1ZI
> > >
> > > --
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 won't PTT in data...

[Mike]

Got it, Thomas. For some long forgotten reason I had MIC SEL set to MIC+LIN. 
DOH!

73, Mike NF4L

On 1/27/2012 4:04 AM, Thomas Horsten wrote:
> Mike,
>
> While in data mode, press Menu, dial to "MIC SEL", ensure it's set to "Line 
> In" not 
> "RPL" or "FPL" (right or front panel), now the mic should definitely not be 
> live 
> and if it is (and triggers VOX), you have a problem with your rig and it 
> needs to 
> be fixed before you use data modes again.
>
> The selection is remembered separately for the DATA modes and SSB.
>
> No matter how loud I scream into the microphone I cannot activate VOX whilst 
> in 
> data mode. If the mic was live in data mode it would be appalling, you'd be 
> putting 
> background noise splatter in the PSK31 passband, for example!
>
> 73, Thomas
>
> On 26 January 2012 19:15, Mike mailto:n...@nf4l.com>> wrote:
>
> Data|AFSK A uses SSB mode internally, so the mic is live, I suppose. I 
> have no
> interface, that was the OP, not me.
>
> 73, Mike NF4L
>
> On 1/26/2012 9:53 AM, Thomas Horsten wrote:
> > I don't get it, when you are in DATA mode it takes the Line In signal 
> and ignores
> > the microphone input if you've configured the rig correctly, any input 
> on the
> > Microphone line should be completely ignored and VOX should work 100%.
> >
> > Still, on the K3 there is absolutely no need for any external interface 
> like
> > SignaLink (unless you just want to use it for it's built in USB sound 
> card, but
> > there are many cheaper options available), just hook up the K3 to the 
> PC with
> > standard audio cables and a serial cable/USB-serial converter, and use
> soft-keying
> > (available with fldigi and hopefully other decent digimode programs), 
> this also
> > gives you full rig control...
> >
> > 73, Thomas M0TRN
> >
> > On 26 January 2012 14:48, Mike mailto:n...@nf4l.com>
> >> wrote:
> >
> > I have an ongoing, long standing problem with using VOX to key the 
> K3 in
> Data mode.
> >
> > My sound card is a Creative USB dongle. I use a CM500 headset/mic,
> plugged into the
> > back panel. If I get the mix of volume, line in level and VOX gain 
> high
> enough to
> > reliably key the rig, the smallest noise in the room gets to the 
> mic and keys
> > the rig.
> >
> > Am I missing something?
> >
> > Mike, NF4L
> >
>

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