Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software help
Lyn, I have those docs, thanks. I'm looking for the command line switches for the remote host software. I have the serial port/serial speed, tcp port and time out. I would like to know if there is any way to control the mode when the software starts, I know how to change it after its running, but I don't want to have to switch from "auto" back to "man" everytime the remote cpu boots. Thanks, Gordon - N1MGO On 9/10/2020 16:24 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: Hi Gordon - Yes, you can find the command reference here: https://elecraft.com/pages/kat500-fully-automatic-tuner-manuals As to the KAT500 switching modes, I am not having that problem. I suggest you go thru the Configuration making certain to memorize critical frequencies then run it in Manual mode. 73 Lyn, W0LEN -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gordon LaPoint Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 1:53 PM To: Elecraft Discussion List Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software help I'm using the KAT500 with the remote software. Is there any documentation of the command line switches for this software? I have it set to start on bootup, connecting to a specific port at the correct baud rate, it works, but switches the tuner from manual mode to auto mode. How do I prevent this? Gordon - N1MGO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to l...@lnainc.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software help
Hi Gordon - Yes, you can find the command reference here: https://elecraft.com/pages/kat500-fully-automatic-tuner-manuals As to the KAT500 switching modes, I am not having that problem. I suggest you go thru the Configuration making certain to memorize critical frequencies then run it in Manual mode. 73 Lyn, W0LEN -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gordon LaPoint Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 1:53 PM To: Elecraft Discussion List Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software help I'm using the KAT500 with the remote software. Is there any documentation of the command line switches for this software? I have it set to start on bootup, connecting to a specific port at the correct baud rate, it works, but switches the tuner from manual mode to auto mode. How do I prevent this? Gordon - N1MGO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to l...@lnainc.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software help
I'm using the KAT500 with the remote software. Is there any documentation of the command line switches for this software? I have it set to start on bootup, connecting to a specific port at the correct baud rate, it works, but switches the tuner from manual mode to auto mode. How do I prevent this? Gordon - N1MGO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] KAT500 remote software
I'm running a remote station using a KAT500 and KPA500 setup. I start the kat500-Remote.exe program on system boot, with a batch file using the commands: rem Run the KAT500 remote control server, with parameters cd C:\Program Files (x86)\Elecraft\KAT500 Remote\ start /MIN KAT500-Remote.exe COM7 38400 4627 500 It works, but when the program starts it puts the KAT500 mode to Auto. I want it to remain in MANUAL, is there a command line switch that will do that? Thanks! Gordon - N1MGO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software question
Problem solved. I had not set up a password in the for the host on the main pc copy of the remote software and then had not entered a password in the remote notebook copy of the software. Once I did that I am now able to control the KAT500 from the remote notebook computer. 73 Paul w2eck On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 2:21 PM Paul Ecker wrote: > I have installed the KAT500 software on both my main shack PC and on to > a Win10 Notebook I use for remote ops. I want to be able to change antennas > on the KAT 500 from the Notebook PC. So I start the Remote software on the > shack PC, configure the Host data and then connect which it does. Then > start the software on the remote notebook. I fill in the shack pc 1p > address and port and then it connects. So thought I was doing ok, but not > really. I can change antennas using the KAT500 remote software on the main > pc but not the notebook, so I kind have it connected but backwards. > > So can anyone help? What is the correct procedure for setting this up or > sequence to be able to control the KAT from my remote notebook? Should the > shack pc that the KAT 500 is connected to be the host? > > > > 73 Paul w2eck > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software question
I have installed the KAT500 software on both my main shack PC and on to a Win10 Notebook I use for remote ops. I want to be able to change antennas on the KAT 500 from the Notebook PC. So I start the Remote software on the shack PC, configure the Host data and then connect which it does. Then start the software on the remote notebook. I fill in the shack pc 1p address and port and then it connects. So thought I was doing ok, but not really. I can change antennas using the KAT500 remote software on the main pc but not the notebook, so I kind have it connected but backwards. So can anyone help? What is the correct procedure for setting this up or sequence to be able to control the KAT from my remote notebook? Should the shack pc that the KAT 500 is connected to be the host? 73 Paul w2eck __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software
"Once you turn it OFF with the front panel switch, it needs to be turned on the same way. After that, yes the utility is fully functional." I suspect the serial connection is getting confused and not properly reconnecting in the power up/down situation. I see that between the K3 and the Win4K3 suite frequently. If I power down the K3 I usually need to restart the computer to get all the serial connections talking again. This could well be an artifact of the specific serial connectors used. PRoblems with one band of chip versus another are a constant source of conversation. As per the engineers and the experience of others, the behavior you're seeing is not part of the design per se. 73 Chris NW6V __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software
OK - the computer is Windows 7 Pro 64. Sorry I didn't mention that earlier. Running tests today, it is inconsistent. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. There is a sequence of events I can't quite discern that causes the failure. It is basically as I described, but sometimes not. How's that for clear as mud? There doesn't actually seem to be any scenario that is 100% predictable either way. Maybe powering down the computer overnight has some bearing. In any event, the rear power switch on the KPA is NEVER shut off. If the KPA is shut down with the front button, and I try to turn it back on with the utility and it fails - and then I go to the Port tab and Test Communications, I generally get the "KPA waiting for power button or firmware load. RS-232 speed 38400 bit/s." message. Then SOMETIMES after I click OK, and go back to the Operate tab, the KPA comes turns on by itself. But sometimes not and I have to click the ON in the utility. Thanks Jack, and Dick for your help. This is obviously not a show-stopper, just a minor aggravation. It's a "would be nice" but not a "top of list" issue. It would be of more concern if it indicated an actual failure of something physical (my KPA has been in to service twice in its first year). 73 Lyn, W0LEN -Original Message- From: Jack Brindle [mailto:jackbrin...@me.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 9:35 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Cc: l...@lnainc.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software A bit more information about how things work in the KPA500. The boot loader runs on back-panel power-on or when the amplifier is powered off from the front panel (or by command). It runs in power-down state, sleeping the processor as much as possible. It looks for inputs from the front panel power button (which is in parallel with a pin on the AUX/IO port) and the serial port. The serial port has an abbreviated command set (described in the KPA500 Programmer’s Reference) - the memory segment for bootstrap loader is full, and there was not enough space to implement a full command set style protocol. The portion the boot loader is fixed at 38400 bps. Reception of a ‘P’ character causes the loader to check firmware memory, and if that check is positive it moves execution to the main firmware, where the amplifier is initialized and brought on-line. If the user has set a different data rate, it will be changed at this point. Because the boot command structure is different from the main commands it is possible for the KPA Utility (or any control program) to get out of sync with the KPA if the user powers down (or up) the KPA from the front panel power button. The KPA Utility usually does a very good job of catching the situation and moving to the proper mode. There is a slight difference between the three versions - W4SMT has done a very good job of catching this in the Mac and Linux versions, to the point where missing the change is very rare (as far as I have seen). I will also say the the Window’s version is also rare at missing this, but apparently there are times when it may miss things as Dick has stated. In any case, as I noted, we test this scenario extensively. It does usually work, as I noted previously. We just need to determine why Lyn is seeing it fail. 73! Jack, W6FB > On Jun 23, 2020, at 7:12 PM, Jack Brindle via Elecraft > wrote: > > Let's see if we can determine why you are seeing this behavior. What platform > are you using (Window, Mac, Linux), and exactly what is the scenario and > conditions you are seeing? In other words, please provide more info. I > believe K6KR has provided a bit of additional info. He wrote the KPA Utility > for Windows, and knows the computer side of things. > > I wrote the code for both the bootstrap loader and the main program in the > KPA500. I tested all parts of the code operation for both bootstrap (which > runs with front power off) and main firmware (runs with power ON) with both > the Mac and Windows Utilities for each KPA500 firmware release as well as > when the Utilities are released. In fact I tested it earlier today with both > the original KPA500 and a newer one I bought a year ago. In all cases the KPA > Utility was able to turn on and off the KPAs properly. > > With adequate information, we should be able to get things working properly > for you. > > 73, > Jack, W6FB > Elecraft Engineering > > >> On Jun 23, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: >> >> Nope. "Should be" is not how it works. I have discussed this with Support, >> and it would require constant polling ... which they cannot do. >> >> Once you turn it OFF with the front panel switch, it needs to be turned on >> the same way. After that, yes the utility is fully functional. >>
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software
A bit more information about how things work in the KPA500. The boot loader runs on back-panel power-on or when the amplifier is powered off from the front panel (or by command). It runs in power-down state, sleeping the processor as much as possible. It looks for inputs from the front panel power button (which is in parallel with a pin on the AUX/IO port) and the serial port. The serial port has an abbreviated command set (described in the KPA500 Programmer’s Reference) - the memory segment for bootstrap loader is full, and there was not enough space to implement a full command set style protocol. The portion the boot loader is fixed at 38400 bps. Reception of a ‘P’ character causes the loader to check firmware memory, and if that check is positive it moves execution to the main firmware, where the amplifier is initialized and brought on-line. If the user has set a different data rate, it will be changed at this point. Because the boot command structure is different from the main commands it is possible for the KPA Utility (or any control program) to get out of sync with the KPA if the user powers down (or up) the KPA from the front panel power button. The KPA Utility usually does a very good job of catching the situation and moving to the proper mode. There is a slight difference between the three versions - W4SMT has done a very good job of catching this in the Mac and Linux versions, to the point where missing the change is very rare (as far as I have seen). I will also say the the Window’s version is also rare at missing this, but apparently there are times when it may miss things as Dick has stated. In any case, as I noted, we test this scenario extensively. It does usually work, as I noted previously. We just need to determine why Lyn is seeing it fail. 73! Jack, W6FB > On Jun 23, 2020, at 7:12 PM, Jack Brindle via Elecraft > wrote: > > Let's see if we can determine why you are seeing this behavior. What platform > are you using (Window, Mac, Linux), and exactly what is the scenario and > conditions you are seeing? In other words, please provide more info. I > believe K6KR has provided a bit of additional info. He wrote the KPA Utility > for Windows, and knows the computer side of things. > > I wrote the code for both the bootstrap loader and the main program in the > KPA500. I tested all parts of the code operation for both bootstrap (which > runs with front power off) and main firmware (runs with power ON) with both > the Mac and Windows Utilities for each KPA500 firmware release as well as > when the Utilities are released. In fact I tested it earlier today with both > the original KPA500 and a newer one I bought a year ago. In all cases the KPA > Utility was able to turn on and off the KPAs properly. > > With adequate information, we should be able to get things working properly > for you. > > 73, > Jack, W6FB > Elecraft Engineering > > >> On Jun 23, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: >> >> Nope. "Should be" is not how it works. I have discussed this with Support, >> and it would require constant polling ... which they cannot do. >> >> Once you turn it OFF with the front panel switch, it needs to be turned on >> the same way. After that, yes the utility is fully functional. >> >> 73 >> Lyn, W0LEN >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Jack Brindle [mailto:jackbrin...@me.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 5:16 PM >> To: l...@lnainc.com >> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software >> >> Take another look. You should be able to power on/off the KPA500 using the >> front power button as well as through the KPA Utility. The Utility does a >> great job of detecting the KPA500’s current data rate whether it is on or >> off (the two rates may be different) and will communicate at the proper rate >> to power the amplifier on or off using the ON/OFF button in the Operate >> panel. >> >> Turning the back panel switch to the OFF position will, of course, disable >> the ability to power on the amplifier using wither the KPA Utility or the >> front panel pushbutton. >> >> 73! >> Jack, W6FB >> >> >>> On Jun 23, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: >>> >>> I meant to follow up on this sooner, but … so here’s what I found with the >>> KPA500 and KPA Utility Rev 1.13.7.16. First, the KPA500 rear power switch >>> must, of course, remain in the ON position at all times. >>> >>> >>> >>> Once the KPA500 has been powered on with the Front panel switch (and >
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software
I use VA2FSQ's Win4K3Suite, and it can control a KPA500/KPA1500, including turning it on and off. https://va2fsq.com/ Jim N7US -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Jack Brindle via Elecraft Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 21:13 To: l...@lnainc.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software Let's see if we can determine why you are seeing this behavior. What platform are you using (Window, Mac, Linux), and exactly what is the scenario and conditions you are seeing? In other words, please provide more info. I believe K6KR has provided a bit of additional info. He wrote the KPA Utility for Windows, and knows the computer side of things. I wrote the code for both the bootstrap loader and the main program in the KPA500. I tested all parts of the code operation for both bootstrap (which runs with front power off) and main firmware (runs with power ON) with both the Mac and Windows Utilities for each KPA500 firmware release as well as when the Utilities are released. In fact I tested it earlier today with both the original KPA500 and a newer one I bought a year ago. In all cases the KPA Utility was able to turn on and off the KPAs properly. With adequate information, we should be able to get things working properly for you. 73, Jack, W6FB Elecraft Engineering > On Jun 23, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: > > Nope. "Should be" is not how it works. I have discussed this with Support, > and it would require constant polling ... which they cannot do. > > Once you turn it OFF with the front panel switch, it needs to be turned on > the same way. After that, yes the utility is fully functional. > > 73 > Lyn, W0LEN > > > > -Original Message- > From: Jack Brindle [mailto:jackbrin...@me.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 5:16 PM > To: l...@lnainc.com > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote > software > > Take another look. You should be able to power on/off the KPA500 using the > front power button as well as through the KPA Utility. The Utility does a > great job of detecting the KPA500’s current data rate whether it is on or off > (the two rates may be different) and will communicate at the proper rate to > power the amplifier on or off using the ON/OFF button in the Operate panel. > > Turning the back panel switch to the OFF position will, of course, disable > the ability to power on the amplifier using wither the KPA Utility or the > front panel pushbutton. > > 73! > Jack, W6FB > > >> On Jun 23, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: >> >> I meant to follow up on this sooner, but … so here’s what I found with the >> KPA500 and KPA Utility Rev 1.13.7.16. First, the KPA500 rear power switch >> must, of course, remain in the ON position at all times. >> >> >> >> Once the KPA500 has been powered on with the Front panel switch (and >> communications is set up properly between the computer and the KPA500), in >> order to have ON/OFF control from the utility app, the KPA500 must never be >> turned OFF from the front panel switch. >> >> >> >> It’s OK to use the other front panel controls (including STANDBY/OPERATE), >> just not the ON/OFF power button. >> >> >> >> 73 >> >> Lyn, W0LEN >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Lyn Norstad [mailto:l...@lnainc.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 3:42 PM >> To: 'Gordon LaPoint'; 'elecraft@mailman.qth.net' >> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote >> software >> >> >> >> If you're running Windows, yes I know how to do that. But keep in mind that >> the KPA Utility will not connect to the KPA500 unless the amp is first >> powered on. >> >> >> >> To have the programs start on boot, just drag them into the Windows >> "Startup" folder (I am on Windows 7). >> >> >> >> In Windows 10, search "Startup Apps." >> >> >> >> 73 >> >> Lyn, W0LEN >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gordon LaPoint >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 1:45 PM >> >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software >> >> >> >> Can these remote software's be in host mode on startup? I run a >>
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software
Let's see if we can determine why you are seeing this behavior. What platform are you using (Window, Mac, Linux), and exactly what is the scenario and conditions you are seeing? In other words, please provide more info. I believe K6KR has provided a bit of additional info. He wrote the KPA Utility for Windows, and knows the computer side of things. I wrote the code for both the bootstrap loader and the main program in the KPA500. I tested all parts of the code operation for both bootstrap (which runs with front power off) and main firmware (runs with power ON) with both the Mac and Windows Utilities for each KPA500 firmware release as well as when the Utilities are released. In fact I tested it earlier today with both the original KPA500 and a newer one I bought a year ago. In all cases the KPA Utility was able to turn on and off the KPAs properly. With adequate information, we should be able to get things working properly for you. 73, Jack, W6FB Elecraft Engineering > On Jun 23, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: > > Nope. "Should be" is not how it works. I have discussed this with Support, > and it would require constant polling ... which they cannot do. > > Once you turn it OFF with the front panel switch, it needs to be turned on > the same way. After that, yes the utility is fully functional. > > 73 > Lyn, W0LEN > > > > -Original Message- > From: Jack Brindle [mailto:jackbrin...@me.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 5:16 PM > To: l...@lnainc.com > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software > > Take another look. You should be able to power on/off the KPA500 using the > front power button as well as through the KPA Utility. The Utility does a > great job of detecting the KPA500’s current data rate whether it is on or off > (the two rates may be different) and will communicate at the proper rate to > power the amplifier on or off using the ON/OFF button in the Operate panel. > > Turning the back panel switch to the OFF position will, of course, disable > the ability to power on the amplifier using wither the KPA Utility or the > front panel pushbutton. > > 73! > Jack, W6FB > > >> On Jun 23, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: >> >> I meant to follow up on this sooner, but … so here’s what I found with the >> KPA500 and KPA Utility Rev 1.13.7.16. First, the KPA500 rear power switch >> must, of course, remain in the ON position at all times. >> >> >> >> Once the KPA500 has been powered on with the Front panel switch (and >> communications is set up properly between the computer and the KPA500), in >> order to have ON/OFF control from the utility app, the KPA500 must never be >> turned OFF from the front panel switch. >> >> >> >> It’s OK to use the other front panel controls (including STANDBY/OPERATE), >> just not the ON/OFF power button. >> >> >> >> 73 >> >> Lyn, W0LEN >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Lyn Norstad [mailto:l...@lnainc.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 3:42 PM >> To: 'Gordon LaPoint'; 'elecraft@mailman.qth.net' >> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software >> >> >> >> If you're running Windows, yes I know how to do that. But keep in mind that >> the KPA Utility will not connect to the KPA500 unless the amp is first >> powered on. >> >> >> >> To have the programs start on boot, just drag them into the Windows >> "Startup" folder (I am on Windows 7). >> >> >> >> In Windows 10, search "Startup Apps." >> >> >> >> 73 >> >> Lyn, W0LEN >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gordon LaPoint >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 1:45 PM >> >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software >> >> >> >> Can these remote software's be in host mode on startup? I run a remote >> >> and would like to have them connect to the hardware and be in host mode >> >> on boot of the computer. Right now I just log on remotely and start >> >> each one as needed. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Gordon - N1MGO >> >> >> >>
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software
Lyn, You can try restarting the utility; sometimes if you push the front buttons (power on/off, standby), the app gets out of sync for the KPA500. 73, Rick NK7I On 6/23/2020 4:50 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: Nope. "Should be" is not how it works. I have discussed this with Support, and it would require constant polling ... which they cannot do. Once you turn it OFF with the front panel switch, it needs to be turned on the same way. After that, yes the utility is fully functional. 73 Lyn, W0LEN -Original Message- From: Jack Brindle [mailto:jackbrin...@me.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 5:16 PM To: l...@lnainc.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software Take another look. You should be able to power on/off the KPA500 using the front power button as well as through the KPA Utility. The Utility does a great job of detecting the KPA500’s current data rate whether it is on or off (the two rates may be different) and will communicate at the proper rate to power the amplifier on or off using the ON/OFF button in the Operate panel. Turning the back panel switch to the OFF position will, of course, disable the ability to power on the amplifier using wither the KPA Utility or the front panel pushbutton. 73! Jack, W6FB On Jun 23, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: I meant to follow up on this sooner, but … so here’s what I found with the KPA500 and KPA Utility Rev 1.13.7.16. First, the KPA500 rear power switch must, of course, remain in the ON position at all times. Once the KPA500 has been powered on with the Front panel switch (and communications is set up properly between the computer and the KPA500), in order to have ON/OFF control from the utility app, the KPA500 must never be turned OFF from the front panel switch. It’s OK to use the other front panel controls (including STANDBY/OPERATE), just not the ON/OFF power button. 73 Lyn, W0LEN -Original Message- From: Lyn Norstad [mailto:l...@lnainc.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 3:42 PM To: 'Gordon LaPoint'; 'elecraft@mailman.qth.net' Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software If you're running Windows, yes I know how to do that. But keep in mind that the KPA Utility will not connect to the KPA500 unless the amp is first powered on. To have the programs start on boot, just drag them into the Windows "Startup" folder (I am on Windows 7). In Windows 10, search "Startup Apps." 73 Lyn, W0LEN -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gordon LaPoint Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 1:45 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software Can these remote software's be in host mode on startup? I run a remote and would like to have them connect to the hardware and be in host mode on boot of the computer. Right now I just log on remotely and start each one as needed. Thanks, Gordon - N1MGO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jackbrin...@me.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software
Nope. "Should be" is not how it works. I have discussed this with Support, and it would require constant polling ... which they cannot do. Once you turn it OFF with the front panel switch, it needs to be turned on the same way. After that, yes the utility is fully functional. 73 Lyn, W0LEN -Original Message- From: Jack Brindle [mailto:jackbrin...@me.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 5:16 PM To: l...@lnainc.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software Take another look. You should be able to power on/off the KPA500 using the front power button as well as through the KPA Utility. The Utility does a great job of detecting the KPA500’s current data rate whether it is on or off (the two rates may be different) and will communicate at the proper rate to power the amplifier on or off using the ON/OFF button in the Operate panel. Turning the back panel switch to the OFF position will, of course, disable the ability to power on the amplifier using wither the KPA Utility or the front panel pushbutton. 73! Jack, W6FB > On Jun 23, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: > > I meant to follow up on this sooner, but … so here’s what I found with the > KPA500 and KPA Utility Rev 1.13.7.16. First, the KPA500 rear power switch > must, of course, remain in the ON position at all times. > > > > Once the KPA500 has been powered on with the Front panel switch (and > communications is set up properly between the computer and the KPA500), in > order to have ON/OFF control from the utility app, the KPA500 must never be > turned OFF from the front panel switch. > > > > It’s OK to use the other front panel controls (including STANDBY/OPERATE), > just not the ON/OFF power button. > > > > 73 > > Lyn, W0LEN > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Lyn Norstad [mailto:l...@lnainc.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 3:42 PM > To: 'Gordon LaPoint'; 'elecraft@mailman.qth.net' > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software > > > > If you're running Windows, yes I know how to do that. But keep in mind that > the KPA Utility will not connect to the KPA500 unless the amp is first > powered on. > > > > To have the programs start on boot, just drag them into the Windows "Startup" > folder (I am on Windows 7). > > > > In Windows 10, search "Startup Apps." > > > > 73 > > Lyn, W0LEN > > > > -Original Message- > > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gordon LaPoint > > Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 1:45 PM > > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software > > > > Can these remote software's be in host mode on startup? I run a remote > > and would like to have them connect to the hardware and be in host mode > > on boot of the computer. Right now I just log on remotely and start > > each one as needed. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Gordon - N1MGO > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jackbrin...@me.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software
Take another look. You should be able to power on/off the KPA500 using the front power button as well as through the KPA Utility. The Utility does a great job of detecting the KPA500’s current data rate whether it is on or off (the two rates may be different) and will communicate at the proper rate to power the amplifier on or off using the ON/OFF button in the Operate panel. Turning the back panel switch to the OFF position will, of course, disable the ability to power on the amplifier using wither the KPA Utility or the front panel pushbutton. 73! Jack, W6FB > On Jun 23, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: > > I meant to follow up on this sooner, but … so here’s what I found with the > KPA500 and KPA Utility Rev 1.13.7.16. First, the KPA500 rear power switch > must, of course, remain in the ON position at all times. > > > > Once the KPA500 has been powered on with the Front panel switch (and > communications is set up properly between the computer and the KPA500), in > order to have ON/OFF control from the utility app, the KPA500 must never be > turned OFF from the front panel switch. > > > > It’s OK to use the other front panel controls (including STANDBY/OPERATE), > just not the ON/OFF power button. > > > > 73 > > Lyn, W0LEN > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Lyn Norstad [mailto:l...@lnainc.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 3:42 PM > To: 'Gordon LaPoint'; 'elecraft@mailman.qth.net' > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software > > > > If you're running Windows, yes I know how to do that. But keep in mind that > the KPA Utility will not connect to the KPA500 unless the amp is first > powered on. > > > > To have the programs start on boot, just drag them into the Windows "Startup" > folder (I am on Windows 7). > > > > In Windows 10, search "Startup Apps." > > > > 73 > > Lyn, W0LEN > > > > -Original Message- > > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gordon LaPoint > > Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 1:45 PM > > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software > > > > Can these remote software's be in host mode on startup? I run a remote > > and would like to have them connect to the hardware and be in host mode > > on boot of the computer. Right now I just log on remotely and start > > each one as needed. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Gordon - N1MGO > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jackbrin...@me.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software
I meant to follow up on this sooner, but … so here’s what I found with the KPA500 and KPA Utility Rev 1.13.7.16. First, the KPA500 rear power switch must, of course, remain in the ON position at all times. Once the KPA500 has been powered on with the Front panel switch (and communications is set up properly between the computer and the KPA500), in order to have ON/OFF control from the utility app, the KPA500 must never be turned OFF from the front panel switch. It’s OK to use the other front panel controls (including STANDBY/OPERATE), just not the ON/OFF power button. 73 Lyn, W0LEN -Original Message- From: Lyn Norstad [mailto:l...@lnainc.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 3:42 PM To: 'Gordon LaPoint'; 'elecraft@mailman.qth.net' Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software If you're running Windows, yes I know how to do that. But keep in mind that the KPA Utility will not connect to the KPA500 unless the amp is first powered on. To have the programs start on boot, just drag them into the Windows "Startup" folder (I am on Windows 7). In Windows 10, search "Startup Apps." 73 Lyn, W0LEN -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gordon LaPoint Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 1:45 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software Can these remote software's be in host mode on startup? I run a remote and would like to have them connect to the hardware and be in host mode on boot of the computer. Right now I just log on remotely and start each one as needed. Thanks, Gordon - N1MGO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software
I have made autostart really easy for the KPA500 Remote, KAT500 Remote, and KPA1500 Remote applications at computer restart. I have the script posted here: https://github.com/KD4Z/Kstart-RemoteHost See top of script for instructions. Warren, KD4Z On 6/9/2020 4:42 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2020 14:44:30 -0400 From: Gordon LaPoint To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Can these remote software's be in host mode on startup?? I run a remote and would like to have them connect to the hardware and be in host mode on boot of the computer.? Right now I just log on remotely and start each one as needed. Thanks, Gordon - N1MGO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software
Mike, Thanks! The batch file that Warren put on github is just what I was looking for! Gordon - N1MGO On 6/10/2020 9:41 AM, Mike - W5JR wrote: Search for a recent email (a month or two ago) on this very topic from Warren/KD4Z. He’s written a Windows script that does this very thing, available at his github. Put it in your Windows Startup directory. Works great. Written for KAT500, KPA500 and KPA1500, up to two instances, for those remote SO2R stations. You edit the script with a few particulars of your station, all described within the script. tnx Mike / W5JR Alpharetta GA On Jun 10, 2020, at 04:26, Gordon LaPoint wrote: Jack, I'm the original poster. I may be misstating what I want to accomplish. At the remote station location I want the KPA500 Remote software to start in host mode, with connection to the KPA500 hardware and the KAT500 remote software to also start in host mode connected to the hardware. Then I can start the software from my laptop and connect to the remote and see the KAT500 and KPA500. I can have the software start at the hardware site, but how do I get it to automatically connect to the hardware so the HOST mode is working? Remote site is where the hardware is located, KPA500, KAT500, Radio. Control site is where I am running the station from. I can use something like TeamViewer to log into the Control site and click on the "Host" button on the running software, but that is what I want to avoid. I use RCForb for normal operation, but that only controls the radio and the KPA500, it does not properly control the KAT500. And when I'm doing a contest using WriteLog Remote I don't have RCForb running so then I need the KPA500 remote to run the amp. Gordon - N1MGO On 6/9/2020 17:42 PM, Jack Brindle via Elecraft wrote: Are you referring to front or rear panel power? The K3 Utility can certainly power on a KPA500 if the rear panel switch is on. If that switch is off, it must be turned on before the front panel switch (or remote power-on) works. Now if you have a big relay in the power line to the KPA, it needs to be enabled as well. Setting up remote stations is a skill. There are many ways to do it, and each need to be evaluated to get it done the way _you_ want. By the way, to the original poster - if you are using a Mac, just add the two utilities to the user’s "Login Items” list in the User’s & Groups System Preferences pane. You just have to make sure that user is started up when the system powers up. There are other ways to do this, but by far that is the easiest. 73! Jack, W6FB On Jun 9, 2020, at 1:42 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: If you're running Windows, yes I know how to do that. But keep in mind that the KPA Utility will not connect to the KPA500 unless the amp is first powered on. To have the programs start on boot, just drag them into the Windows "Startup" folder (I am on Windows 7). In Windows 10, search "Startup Apps." 73 Lyn, W0LEN -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net>] On Behalf Of Gordon LaPoint Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 1:45 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software Can these remote software's be in host mode on startup? I run a remote and would like to have them connect to the hardware and be in host mode on boot of the computer. Right now I just log on remotely and start each one as needed. Thanks, Gordon - N1MGO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to l...@lnainc.com <mailto:l...@lnainc.com> __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm <http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net <http://www.qsl.net/> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html <http://www.qsl.net/donate.html> Message delivered to jackbrin...@me.com <mailto:jackbrin...@me.com> __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help su
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software
Search for a recent email (a month or two ago) on this very topic from Warren/KD4Z. He’s written a Windows script that does this very thing, available at his github. Put it in your Windows Startup directory. Works great. Written for KAT500, KPA500 and KPA1500, up to two instances, for those remote SO2R stations. You edit the script with a few particulars of your station, all described within the script. tnx Mike / W5JR Alpharetta GA > On Jun 10, 2020, at 04:26, Gordon LaPoint wrote: > > Jack, > I'm the original poster. I may be misstating what I want to accomplish. > At the remote station location I want the KPA500 Remote software to start in > host mode, with connection to the KPA500 hardware and the KAT500 remote > software to also start in host mode connected to the hardware. > Then I can start the software from my laptop and connect to the remote and > see the KAT500 and KPA500. > I can have the software start at the hardware site, but how do I get it to > automatically connect to the hardware so the HOST mode is working? > > Remote site is where the hardware is located, KPA500, KAT500, Radio. > Control site is where I am running the station from. > I can use something like TeamViewer to log into the Control site and click on > the "Host" button on the running software, but that is what I want to avoid. > > I use RCForb for normal operation, but that only controls the radio and the > KPA500, it does not properly control the KAT500. > And when I'm doing a contest using WriteLog Remote I don't have RCForb > running so then I need the KPA500 remote to run the amp. > > Gordon - N1MGO > >> On 6/9/2020 17:42 PM, Jack Brindle via Elecraft wrote: >> Are you referring to front or rear panel power? The K3 Utility can certainly >> power on a KPA500 if the rear panel switch is on. If that switch is off, it >> must be turned on before the front panel switch (or remote power-on) works. >> Now if you have a big relay in the power line to the KPA, it needs to be >> enabled as well. >> >> Setting up remote stations is a skill. There are many ways to do it, and >> each need to be evaluated to get it done the way _you_ want. >> >> By the way, to the original poster - if you are using a Mac, just add the >> two utilities to the user’s "Login Items” list in the User’s & Groups System >> Preferences pane. You just have to make sure that user is started up when >> the system powers up. There are other ways to do this, but by far that is >> the easiest. >> >> 73! >> Jack, W6FB >> >> >>> On Jun 9, 2020, at 1:42 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: >>> >>> If you're running Windows, yes I know how to do that. But keep in mind >>> that the KPA Utility will not connect to the KPA500 unless the amp is first >>> powered on. >>> >>> To have the programs start on boot, just drag them into the Windows >>> "Startup" folder (I am on Windows 7). >>> >>> In Windows 10, search "Startup Apps." >>> >>> 73 >>> Lyn, W0LEN >>> >>> -----Original Message- >>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >>> <mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> >>> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >>> <mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net>] On Behalf Of Gordon LaPoint >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 1:45 PM >>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >>> Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software >>> >>> Can these remote software's be in host mode on startup? I run a remote >>> and would like to have them connect to the hardware and be in host mode >>> on boot of the computer. Right now I just log on remotely and start >>> each one as needed. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Gordon - N1MGO >>> >>> __ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to l...@lnainc.com <mailto:l...@lnainc.com> >>> >>> __ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/li
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software
Jack, I'm the original poster. I may be misstating what I want to accomplish. At the remote station location I want the KPA500 Remote software to start in host mode, with connection to the KPA500 hardware and the KAT500 remote software to also start in host mode connected to the hardware. Then I can start the software from my laptop and connect to the remote and see the KAT500 and KPA500. I can have the software start at the hardware site, but how do I get it to automatically connect to the hardware so the HOST mode is working? Remote site is where the hardware is located, KPA500, KAT500, Radio. Control site is where I am running the station from. I can use something like TeamViewer to log into the Control site and click on the "Host" button on the running software, but that is what I want to avoid. I use RCForb for normal operation, but that only controls the radio and the KPA500, it does not properly control the KAT500. And when I'm doing a contest using WriteLog Remote I don't have RCForb running so then I need the KPA500 remote to run the amp. Gordon - N1MGO On 6/9/2020 17:42 PM, Jack Brindle via Elecraft wrote: Are you referring to front or rear panel power? The K3 Utility can certainly power on a KPA500 if the rear panel switch is on. If that switch is off, it must be turned on before the front panel switch (or remote power-on) works. Now if you have a big relay in the power line to the KPA, it needs to be enabled as well. Setting up remote stations is a skill. There are many ways to do it, and each need to be evaluated to get it done the way _you_ want. By the way, to the original poster - if you are using a Mac, just add the two utilities to the user’s "Login Items” list in the User’s & Groups System Preferences pane. You just have to make sure that user is started up when the system powers up. There are other ways to do this, but by far that is the easiest. 73! Jack, W6FB On Jun 9, 2020, at 1:42 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: If you're running Windows, yes I know how to do that. But keep in mind that the KPA Utility will not connect to the KPA500 unless the amp is first powered on. To have the programs start on boot, just drag them into the Windows "Startup" folder (I am on Windows 7). In Windows 10, search "Startup Apps." 73 Lyn, W0LEN -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net>] On Behalf Of Gordon LaPoint Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 1:45 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software Can these remote software's be in host mode on startup? I run a remote and would like to have them connect to the hardware and be in host mode on boot of the computer. Right now I just log on remotely and start each one as needed. Thanks, Gordon - N1MGO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to l...@lnainc.com <mailto:l...@lnainc.com> __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm <http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net <http://www.qsl.net/> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html <http://www.qsl.net/donate.html> Message delivered to jackbrin...@me.com <mailto:jackbrin...@me.com> __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to gordon.lapo...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software
"P can be sent with the Utility "command tester" or press "ON" on the utility "Operate" page. BTW - My first reply overlapped with Jack's. In case of conflict believe him not me. Andy, k3wyc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software
"But keep in mind that the KPA Utility will not connect to the KPA500 unless the amp is first powered on" That may be a bit misleading. Depends on what you mean by "powered on". I consider the KPA500 to have 4 states: Not powered Powered but off STBY OPER The utility can be connected to KPA500 in the "powered but off " state and the KPA500 will accept a limited subset of serial commands. One of those commands, P, will turn it on. P can be sent with the Utility "command tester and will change the KPA500 state to STBY. At this point all the normal Utility functions work. Andy, k3wyc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software
Are you referring to front or rear panel power? The K3 Utility can certainly power on a KPA500 if the rear panel switch is on. If that switch is off, it must be turned on before the front panel switch (or remote power-on) works. Now if you have a big relay in the power line to the KPA, it needs to be enabled as well. Setting up remote stations is a skill. There are many ways to do it, and each need to be evaluated to get it done the way _you_ want. By the way, to the original poster - if you are using a Mac, just add the two utilities to the user’s "Login Items” list in the User’s & Groups System Preferences pane. You just have to make sure that user is started up when the system powers up. There are other ways to do this, but by far that is the easiest. 73! Jack, W6FB > On Jun 9, 2020, at 1:42 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: > > If you're running Windows, yes I know how to do that. But keep in mind that > the KPA Utility will not connect to the KPA500 unless the amp is first > powered on. > > To have the programs start on boot, just drag them into the Windows "Startup" > folder (I am on Windows 7). > > In Windows 10, search "Startup Apps." > > 73 > Lyn, W0LEN > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > <mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > <mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net>] On Behalf Of Gordon LaPoint > Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 1:45 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software > > Can these remote software's be in host mode on startup? I run a remote > and would like to have them connect to the hardware and be in host mode > on boot of the computer. Right now I just log on remotely and start > each one as needed. > > Thanks, > > Gordon - N1MGO > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to l...@lnainc.com <mailto:l...@lnainc.com> > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm <http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net <http://www.qsl.net/> > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > <http://www.qsl.net/donate.html> > Message delivered to jackbrin...@me.com <mailto:jackbrin...@me.com> __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software
If you're running Windows, yes I know how to do that. But keep in mind that the KPA Utility will not connect to the KPA500 unless the amp is first powered on. To have the programs start on boot, just drag them into the Windows "Startup" folder (I am on Windows 7). In Windows 10, search "Startup Apps." 73 Lyn, W0LEN -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gordon LaPoint Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2020 1:45 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software Can these remote software's be in host mode on startup? I run a remote and would like to have them connect to the hardware and be in host mode on boot of the computer. Right now I just log on remotely and start each one as needed. Thanks, Gordon - N1MGO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to l...@lnainc.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software and KPA500 remote software
Can these remote software's be in host mode on startup? I run a remote and would like to have them connect to the hardware and be in host mode on boot of the computer. Right now I just log on remotely and start each one as needed. Thanks, Gordon - N1MGO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software
Hi Jack and Don, As Ron says, VFWD and VRFL are related to forward and reflected power. Actually, they are roughly proportional to forward and reflected *voltage*. I say roughly because there is some nonlinearity from the rectifier diodes, especially at low power. The constant of proportionality is somewhat dependent on frequency, power level *and * has some unit to unit variability. That's the stated reason why Elecraft chose not to make any estimation of actual power levels. But SWR is easily calculated b y the formula: VSWR = (VFWD+VRFL) / (VFWD-VRFL) This formula factors out all the variability mentioned above except the diode nonlinearity. In your case this works out as (225+3) / (225-3) = 1.03 Since SWR is all that is required to be known in an autotuner, that's all the KAT500 is calculating. Actually the calculated SWR doesn't even have to be very accurate as long is it a monotonic function (no dips or peaks) of the actual SWR. To be fair, the KAT500 does need an estimate of forward power since that is being used to fault if it is too high, but it doesn't have to very accurate. The forward power is proportional to VFWD squared. AB2TC - Knut Don Wilhelm wrote > Jack, > > For any wattmeter (the one in the KAT500 included), the VFWD and VRFL > values are related to forward power and reflected power. Those are raw > numbers and some math is required to calculate the actual power and SWR. > > VRFL subtracted from VFWD can be used to computer the power into the > load (in this case the input to the KAT500), but you need to know the > scaling factor that may be unique to the wattmeter. > > Similarly, if you divide VRFL by VFWD, you will obtain a result that is > related to the SWR. > > See the formulas associated with SWR in most any book dealing with > antennas and transmission lines. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 1/11/2018 7:07 AM, Jack Satterfield wrote: >> Can someone explain the VFWD and VRFL readings in the bottom right of >> screen? >> >> When I put out a 15w tune signal, VFWD reads 225 and VRFL reads 2 to 3 >> >> Just trying to make sense of the readings >> >> >> >> Jack >> >> W4GRJ >> >> >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto: > Elecraft@.qth >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to > donwilh@ >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto: > Elecraft@.qth > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to > lists+1215531472858-365791@.nabble -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software
Jack, For any wattmeter (the one in the KAT500 included), the VFWD and VRFL values are related to forward power and reflected power. Those are raw numbers and some math is required to calculate the actual power and SWR. VRFL subtracted from VFWD can be used to computer the power into the load (in this case the input to the KAT500), but you need to know the scaling factor that may be unique to the wattmeter. Similarly, if you divide VRFL by VFWD, you will obtain a result that is related to the SWR. See the formulas associated with SWR in most any book dealing with antennas and transmission lines. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/11/2018 7:07 AM, Jack Satterfield wrote: Can someone explain the VFWD and VRFL readings in the bottom right of screen? When I put out a 15w tune signal, VFWD reads 225 and VRFL reads 2 to 3 Just trying to make sense of the readings Jack W4GRJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to donw...@embarqmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] KAT500 Remote software
Can someone explain the VFWD and VRFL readings in the bottom right of screen? When I put out a 15w tune signal, VFWD reads 225 and VRFL reads 2 to 3 Just trying to make sense of the readings Jack W4GRJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] KAT500 remote software
Are there any instructions anywhere explaining the different settings in the software? Tnx, Jack W4GRJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
