subject:"\[Elecraft\] KX2\/KX3 menu pauses when passing ATU.DATA with KXPA100 attached"

Re: [Elecraft] KX2/KX3 menu pauses when passing ATU.DATA with KXPA100 attached

2017-07-06 Thread Erik Tkal

Ok, thanks, will wait for the next update.

  Thanks and 73,
  Erik Tkal  -  W1QED



On Jul 6, 2017, at 13:09, Wayne Burdick  wrote:

This is definitely a bug (annoying, but not serious). Thanks for catching it.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


> On Jul 6, 2017, at 6:23 AM, Erik Tkal  wrote:
> 
> Any confirmation on this issue?
> 
>  Thanks and 73,
>  Erik Tkal  -  W1QED
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 18, 2017, at 13:00, E T  wrote:
> 
> BTW, the KX2 with 2.77 behaves exactly the same way when scrolling past the 
> N/A with the KXPA100 enabled.
> 
>  Thanks and 73,
>  Erik Tkal  -  W1QED
> 
> On Jun 18, 2017, at 10:34 AM, E T  wrote:
> 
> Hi Wayne,
> 
> There is one major quirk with the new ATU.DATA menu item on the KX3.  When 
> using the KXPA100 the menu item shows up with the label N/A and value "--".  
> And then when you scroll up or down to the next menu item it takes up to a 
> second to show the correct label.  Even when you are scrolling fast through 
> the items and go past that one the N/A appears and persists as you scroll.  
> All the other transitions are immediate except this one.  Shouldn't the label 
> still show as ATU.DATA and have the value show "--" or "N/A"?  E.g. like 
> 2M/4M shows as "not inSt".
> 
> I'm going to update my KX2 to the beta that also has this and see if it also 
> shows the same quirk.
> 
>  Thanks and 73,
>  Erik Tkal  -  W1QED
> 
> 
> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:38 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Rev. 2.70 KX3 firmware unintentionally reduced the max AF gain setting for 
> both speaker and headphones. (We improved the granularity of the AF GAIN 
> control at the low end but didn’t get around to scaling the high end back up 
> to the original level.)
> 
> If you were affected by this and would like to try the field test release 
> (rev. 2.76), please email me directly. 
> 
> This rev also includes the new “ATU DATA” menu entry, which gives you two 
> full sets of per-band ATU data for use when running the KX3 “barefoot” 
> (without the KXPA100/KXAT100). Typically one set would be used at home, the 
> other in the field. If you do a lot of outings, this can save you the trouble 
> of re-matching all of your antennas when you get home. Another use for this 
> is with two different antennas for a given band.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2/KX3 menu pauses when passing ATU.DATA with KXPA100 attached

2017-07-06 Thread Erik Tkal

But the menu item label itself goes to N/A, which is not alphabetical and 
doesn’t tell you *what* is not available, which is inconsistent with other 
functions that are at times not applicable.  It’s really the latency when 
scrolling past that is the issue, as I scroll quickly to search and trying to 
settle on a nearby item is kinda broken (I have to wait for the N/A to go away 
since it does not do that as soon as I scroll to the next item so I can’t even 
tell what the next item is).  It works fine with no KXPA100 attached.

  Thanks and 73,
  Erik Tkal  -  W1QED



On Jul 6, 2017, at 10:55, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

Erik,

I cannot confirm or deny, but the 2 sets of ATU.DATA should be "N/A" or "--" 
when the KXPA100 is enabled.

Think about it a bit - the 2 data sets only pertain to the internal ATU in the 
KX2/KX3.  When the KXPA100 is enabled, that internal tuner is bypassed because 
any ATU must be on the output of the KXPA100.

The 2 sets of ATU.DATA is for field and home operation of the base KX2/KX3, not 
for the KXAT100.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/6/2017 9:23 AM, Erik Tkal wrote:
> Any confirmation on this issue?
>   Thanks and 73,
>   Erik Tkal  -  W1QED
> On Jun 18, 2017, at 13:00, E T  wrote:
> BTW, the KX2 with 2.77 behaves exactly the same way when scrolling past the 
> N/A with the KXPA100 enabled.
>   Thanks and 73,
>   Erik Tkal  -  W1QED
> On Jun 18, 2017, at 10:34 AM, E T  > wrote:
> Hi Wayne,
> There is one major quirk with the new ATU.DATA menu item on the KX3.  When 
> using the KXPA100 the menu item shows up with the label N/A and value "--".  
> And then when you scroll up or down to the next menu item it takes up to a 
> second to show the correct label.  Even when you are scrolling fast through 
> the items and go past that one the N/A appears and persists as you scroll.  
> All the other transitions are immediate except this one.  Shouldn't the label 
> still show as ATU.DATA and have the value show "--" or "N/A"?  E.g. like 
> 2M/4M shows as "not inSt".
> I'm going to update my KX2 to the beta that also has this and see if it also 
> shows the same quirk.
>   Thanks and 73,
>   Erik Tkal  -  W1QED
> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:38 PM, Wayne Burdick  > wrote:
> Hi all,
> Rev. 2.70 KX3 firmware unintentionally reduced the max AF gain setting for 
> both speaker and headphones. (We improved the granularity of the AF GAIN 
> control at the low end but didn’t get around to scaling the high end back up 
> to the original level.)
> If you were affected by this and would like to try the field test release 
> (rev. 2.76), please email me directly.
> This rev also includes the new “ATU DATA” menu entry, which gives you two 
> full sets of per-band ATU data for use when running the KX3 “barefoot” 
> (without the KXPA100/KXAT100). Typically one set would be used at home, the 
> other in the field. If you do a lot of outings, this can save you the trouble 
> of re-matching all of your antennas when you get home. Another use for this 
> is with two different antennas for a given band.
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2/KX3 menu pauses when passing ATU.DATA with KXPA100 attached

2017-07-06 Thread Wayne Burdick

This is definitely a bug (annoying, but not serious). Thanks for catching it.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


> On Jul 6, 2017, at 6:23 AM, Erik Tkal  wrote:
> 
> Any confirmation on this issue?
> 
>   Thanks and 73,
>   Erik Tkal  -  W1QED
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 18, 2017, at 13:00, E T  wrote:
> 
> BTW, the KX2 with 2.77 behaves exactly the same way when scrolling past the 
> N/A with the KXPA100 enabled.
> 
>   Thanks and 73,
>   Erik Tkal  -  W1QED
> 
> On Jun 18, 2017, at 10:34 AM, E T  wrote:
> 
> Hi Wayne,
> 
> There is one major quirk with the new ATU.DATA menu item on the KX3.  When 
> using the KXPA100 the menu item shows up with the label N/A and value "--".  
> And then when you scroll up or down to the next menu item it takes up to a 
> second to show the correct label.  Even when you are scrolling fast through 
> the items and go past that one the N/A appears and persists as you scroll.  
> All the other transitions are immediate except this one.  Shouldn't the label 
> still show as ATU.DATA and have the value show "--" or "N/A"?  E.g. like 
> 2M/4M shows as "not inSt".
> 
> I'm going to update my KX2 to the beta that also has this and see if it also 
> shows the same quirk.
> 
>   Thanks and 73,
>   Erik Tkal  -  W1QED
> 
> 
> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:38 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Rev. 2.70 KX3 firmware unintentionally reduced the max AF gain setting for 
> both speaker and headphones. (We improved the granularity of the AF GAIN 
> control at the low end but didn’t get around to scaling the high end back up 
> to the original level.)
> 
> If you were affected by this and would like to try the field test release 
> (rev. 2.76), please email me directly. 
> 
> This rev also includes the new “ATU DATA” menu entry, which gives you two 
> full sets of per-band ATU data for use when running the KX3 “barefoot” 
> (without the KXPA100/KXAT100). Typically one set would be used at home, the 
> other in the field. If you do a lot of outings, this can save you the trouble 
> of re-matching all of your antennas when you get home. Another use for this 
> is with two different antennas for a given band.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2/KX3 menu pauses when passing ATU.DATA with KXPA100 attached

2017-07-06 Thread Don Wilhelm

Erik,

I cannot confirm or deny, but the 2 sets of ATU.DATA should be "N/A" or
"--" when the KXPA100 is enabled.

Think about it a bit - the 2 data sets only pertain to the internal ATU
in the KX2/KX3. When the KXPA100 is enabled, that internal tuner is
bypassed because any ATU must be on the output of the KXPA100.

The 2 sets of ATU.DATA is for field and home operation of the base
KX2/KX3, not for the KXAT100.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/6/2017 9:23 AM, Erik Tkal wrote:

Any confirmation on this issue?

Thanks and 73,
Erik Tkal - W1QED

On Jun 18, 2017, at 13:00, E T wrote:

BTW, the KX2 with 2.77 behaves exactly the same way when scrolling past the N/A
with the KXPA100 enabled.

Thanks and 73,
Erik Tkal - W1QED

On Jun 18, 2017, at 10:34 AM, E T > wrote:

Hi Wayne,

There is one major quirk with the new ATU.DATA menu item on the KX3. When using the KXPA100 the menu item shows up
with the label N/A and value "--". And then when you scroll up or down to the next menu item it takes up to
a second to show the correct label. Even when you are scrolling fast through the items and go past that one the N/A
appears and persists as you scroll. All the other transitions are immediate except this one. Shouldn't the label
still show as ATU.DATA and have the value show "--" or "N/A"? E.g. like 2M/4M shows as "not
inSt".

I'm going to update my KX2 to the beta that also has this and see if it also
shows the same quirk.

Thanks and 73,
Erik Tkal - W1QED

On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:38 PM, Wayne Burdick > wrote:

Hi all,

Rev. 2.70 KX3 firmware unintentionally reduced the max AF gain setting for both
speaker and headphones. (We improved the granularity of the AF GAIN control at
the low end but didn’t get around to scaling the high end back up to the
original level.)

If you were affected by this and would like to try the field test release (rev.
2.76), please email me directly.

This rev also includes the new “ATU DATA” menu entry, which gives you two full
sets of per-band ATU data for use when running the KX3 “barefoot” (without the
KXPA100/KXAT100). Typically one set would be used at home, the other in the
field. If you do a lot of outings, this can save you the trouble of re-matching
all of your antennas when you get home. Another use for this is with two
different antennas for a given band.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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[Elecraft] KX2/KX3 menu pauses when passing ATU.DATA with KXPA100 attached

2017-07-06 Thread Erik Tkal

Any confirmation on this issue?

  Thanks and 73,
  Erik Tkal  -  W1QED



On Jun 18, 2017, at 13:00, E T  wrote:

BTW, the KX2 with 2.77 behaves exactly the same way when scrolling past the N/A 
with the KXPA100 enabled.

  Thanks and 73,
  Erik Tkal  -  W1QED

On Jun 18, 2017, at 10:34 AM, E T > wrote:

Hi Wayne,

There is one major quirk with the new ATU.DATA menu item on the KX3.  When 
using the KXPA100 the menu item shows up with the label N/A and value "--".  
And then when you scroll up or down to the next menu item it takes up to a 
second to show the correct label.  Even when you are scrolling fast through the 
items and go past that one the N/A appears and persists as you scroll.  All the 
other transitions are immediate except this one.  Shouldn't the label still 
show as ATU.DATA and have the value show "--" or "N/A"?  E.g. like 2M/4M shows 
as "not inSt".

I'm going to update my KX2 to the beta that also has this and see if it also 
shows the same quirk.

  Thanks and 73,
  Erik Tkal  -  W1QED


On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:38 PM, Wayne Burdick > wrote:

Hi all,

Rev. 2.70 KX3 firmware unintentionally reduced the max AF gain setting for both 
speaker and headphones. (We improved the granularity of the AF GAIN control at 
the low end but didn’t get around to scaling the high end back up to the 
original level.)

If you were affected by this and would like to try the field test release (rev. 
2.76), please email me directly. 

This rev also includes the new “ATU DATA” menu entry, which gives you two full 
sets of per-band ATU data for use when running the KX3 “barefoot” (without the 
KXPA100/KXAT100). Typically one set would be used at home, the other in the 
field. If you do a lot of outings, this can save you the trouble of re-matching 
all of your antennas when you get home. Another use for this is with two 
different antennas for a given band.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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