Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Approx Cost/User Downloads/Dev
Wayne, Thanks for your response to this thread. 73's and Happy Labor Day, John W. San Jose, CA AJ6BC On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: The transverter module, if installed, will have its own antenna jack. It will be an SMA connector due to space constraints on the right side panel. You'll be able to have both the HF and transverter antennas connected at the same time. Wayne N6KR On Aug 26, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Edward R. Cole wrote: Wayne, Thanks for the link. Perusing the details, I note a single antenna connector, which makes sense with a compact radio. But I do not see evidence of a transverter interface. I was not sure if that was being included - appears not. Being QRP, this is not hard to overcome by use of a 10w 40-dB attenuator chip and pin-diode relay in the transverter to switch TR at the transverter. Many transverters can be ordered with a transceiver connection option. The KX3 with 2m option should look very attractive as an alternative to the FT-817 as IF radio for VHF and Microwave hams. For portable mw it is way more attractive than hauling the K3 around (which I am reluctant to do). My 10-GHz portable station utilizes the FT-817 with all components fitting into a Pelican 1520 case. I think the KX3 will fit in the same footprint as the FT-817. 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-100w, 1296-60w, 3400-? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@gmail.com == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Approx Cost/User Downloads/Dev
On 08/25/2011 11:03 PM, David Fleming wrote: --- Wayne wrote: I'm picturing control via smart phones, netbooks, and iPads. I've done some preliminary design work on a K3 remote control app for iOS (iPhone/iPad). I'm curious if there is much demand for such an app? And if so, what features/functionality would be most desirable? David, W4SMT How would the ipad communicate with the K3? Can you use USB/serial, or would you have to plug the K3 into another box and have the ipad communicate with that box over wifi? Jon LA4RT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Approx Cost/User Downloads/Dev
I'd love it if you could make it work with VoiceOver, the built-in IOS screen reader. I've been looking for a way to remote the K3 and just started learning the IOS. Many apps work great with VoiceOver so why not a K3 or KX3 controller? Thanks. Lou WA3MIX - Original Message - From: David Fleming df...@yahoo.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Approx Cost/User Downloads/Dev --- Wayne wrote: I'm picturing control via smart phones, netbooks, and iPads. I've done some preliminary design work on a K3 remote control app for iOS (iPhone/iPad). I'm curious if there is much demand for such an app? And if so, what features/functionality would be most desirable? David, W4SMT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Approx Cost/User Downloads/Dev
Wayne, Thanks for the link. Perusing the details, I note a single antenna connector, which makes sense with a compact radio. But I do not see evidence of a transverter interface. I was not sure if that was being included - appears not. Being QRP, this is not hard to overcome by use of a 10w 40-dB attenuator chip and pin-diode relay in the transverter to switch TR at the transverter. Many transverters can be ordered with a transceiver connection option. The KX3 with 2m option should look very attractive as an alternative to the FT-817 as IF radio for VHF and Microwave hams. For portable mw it is way more attractive than hauling the K3 around (which I am reluctant to do). My 10-GHz portable station utilizes the FT-817 with all components fitting into a Pelican 1520 case. I think the KX3 will fit in the same footprint as the FT-817. 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-100w, 1296-60w, 3400-? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@gmail.com == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Approx Cost/User Downloads/Dev
The transverter module, if installed, will have its own antenna jack. It will be an SMA connector due to space constraints on the right side panel. You'll be able to have both the HF and transverter antennas connected at the same time. Wayne N6KR On Aug 26, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Edward R. Cole wrote: Wayne, Thanks for the link. Perusing the details, I note a single antenna connector, which makes sense with a compact radio. But I do not see evidence of a transverter interface. I was not sure if that was being included - appears not. Being QRP, this is not hard to overcome by use of a 10w 40-dB attenuator chip and pin-diode relay in the transverter to switch TR at the transverter. Many transverters can be ordered with a transceiver connection option. The KX3 with 2m option should look very attractive as an alternative to the FT-817 as IF radio for VHF and Microwave hams. For portable mw it is way more attractive than hauling the K3 around (which I am reluctant to do). My 10-GHz portable station utilizes the FT-817 with all components fitting into a Pelican 1520 case. I think the KX3 will fit in the same footprint as the FT-817. 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-100w, 1296-60w, 3400-? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@gmail.com == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX3 Approx Cost/User Downloads/Dev
Hello Elecrafters, What is the ballpark cost for the KX3? Will users be able to download their own code to the KX3? 73's, John W. KJ6HCV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Approx Cost/User Downloads/Dev
I don't think anybody knows what the cost of the KX3 will be. AFAIK there are maybe two prototypes and production won't begin till the end of the year. As for loading you're home brew firmware on the KX3 why would Elecraft want to open that particular can of worms? It's a support nightmare. They might do it if you signed an agreement stating as soon as you load your own code the existing warantee is null and void and you're on you're own. On 8/25/2011 3:39 AM, John Westmoreland wrote: Hello Elecrafters, What is the ballpark cost for the KX3? Will users be able to download their own code to the KX3? 73's, John W. KJ6HCV -- R. Kevin Stover ACØH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Approx Cost/User Downloads/Dev
H...I think the archives might show a price point of around $800.00 as the target range. Perhaps like the K3 there will be some release of code? Gary On 25 August 2011 20:26, R. Kevin Stover rksto...@mchsi.com wrote: I don't think anybody knows what the cost of the KX3 will be. AFAIK there are maybe two prototypes and production won't begin till the end of the year. As for loading you're home brew firmware on the KX3 why would Elecraft want to open that particular can of worms? It's a support nightmare. They might do it if you signed an agreement stating as soon as you load your own code the existing warantee is null and void and you're on you're own. On 8/25/2011 3:39 AM, John Westmoreland wrote: Hello Elecrafters, What is the ballpark cost for the KX3? Will users be able to download their own code to the KX3? 73's, John W. KJ6HCV -- R. Kevin Stover ACØH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile Elecraft Equipment K3 #679, KPA-500 #018 Living the dream!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Approx Cost/User Downloads/Dev
John Westmoreland wrote: What is the ballpark cost for the KX3? Our target is still $799 for the basic 160-6 meter/10 watt/all-mode KX3 kit, less options. Slightly higher when factory assembled. Prices were based on cost of parts in May, and everything is going up industry-wide, so it's possible prices may change by the time we start shipping. Will users be able to download their own code to the KX3? Probably not. As with our other products, we carefully control all aspects of MCU and DSP firmware performance, based our very fast real- time operating system. Making the firmware open-source would create numerous customer support and design challenges. On the other hand, the KX3 will support the entire K3 remote-control command set, so all existing and future PC/Mac/Linux K3 applications will work with the KX3. Plenty of room for creativity in that domain. I'm picturing control via smart phones, netbooks, and iPads. The KX3's I/Q analog outputs could be used for panadapter apps, etc. 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Approx Cost/User Downloads/Dev
what options will be offered k3djc On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 07:36:04 -0700 Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com writes: John Westmoreland wrote: What is the ballpark cost for the KX3? Our target is still $799 for the basic 160-6 meter/10 watt/all-mode KX3 kit, less options. Slightly higher when factory assembled. Prices were based on cost of parts in May, and everything is going up industry-wide, so it's possible prices may change by the time we start shipping. 57-Year-Old Mom Looks 25 Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e5660cbd9fca551m03vuc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Approx Cost/User Downloads/Dev
Please see the KX3 page on our web site. It's at: http://www.elecraft.com/KX3/kx3.htm 73, Wayne N6KR On Aug 25, 2011, at 7:47 AM, riese-k3...@juno.com wrote: what options will be offered k3djc On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 07:36:04 -0700 Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com writes: John Westmoreland wrote: What is the ballpark cost for the KX3? Our target is still $799 for the basic 160-6 meter/10 watt/all-mode KX3 kit, less options. Slightly higher when factory assembled. Prices were based on cost of parts in May, and everything is going up industry-wide, so it's possible prices may change by the time we start shipping. 57-Year-Old Mom Looks 25 Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e5660cbd9879550m03vuc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Approx Cost/User Downloads/Dev
thanks Wayne the usual suspects didnt realize it was already posted tot he web site I WANT ONE TOO Bob K3DJC On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:22:10 -0700 Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com writes: Please see the KX3 page on our web site. It's at: http://www.elecraft.com/KX3/kx3.htm 73, Wayne N6KR On Aug 25, 2011, at 7:47 AM, riese-k3...@juno.com wrote: what options will be offered k3djc On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 07:36:04 -0700 Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com writes: John Westmoreland wrote: What is the ballpark cost for the KX3? Our target is still $799 for the basic 160-6 meter/10 watt/all-mode KX3 kit, less options. Slightly higher when factory assembled. Prices were based on cost of parts in May, and everything is going up industry-wide, so it's possible prices may change by the time we start shipping. 57-Year-Old Mom Looks 25 Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e5660cbd9879550m03vuc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Approx Cost/User Downloads/Dev
--- Wayne wrote: I'm picturing control via smart phones, netbooks, and iPads. I've done some preliminary design work on a K3 remote control app for iOS (iPhone/iPad). I'm curious if there is much demand for such an app? And if so, what features/functionality would be most desirable? David, W4SMT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Android! ...bill nr4c -Original Message- From: David Fleming [mailto:df...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 5:04 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Approx Cost/User Downloads/Dev --- Wayne wrote: I'm picturing control via smart phones, netbooks, and iPads. I've done some preliminary design work on a K3 remote control app for iOS (iPhone/iPad). I'm curious if there is much demand for such an app? And if so, what features/functionality would be most desirable? David, W4SMT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Approx Cost/User Downloads/Dev
Hello Wayne, On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: John Westmoreland wrote: What is the ballpark cost for the KX3? Our target is still $799 for the basic 160-6 meter/10 watt/all-mode KX3 kit, less options. Slightly higher when factory assembled. Prices were based on cost of parts in May, and everything is going up industry-wide, so it's possible prices may change by the time we start shipping. Can I pre-order one today? I will call, you can charge my CC, and I will happily wait. Will users be able to download their own code to the KX3? Probably not. As with our other products, we carefully control all aspects of MCU and DSP firmware performance, based our very fast real-time operating system. Making the firmware open-source would create numerous customer support and design challenges. Will you tell me what MCU and DSP you are using? If users are allowed to experiment on their own, of course it will be at our own peril. On the other hand, the KX3 will support the entire K3 remote-control command set, so all existing and future PC/Mac/Linux K3 applications will work with the KX3. Plenty of room for creativity in that domain. I'm picturing control via smart phones, netbooks, and iPads. The KX3's I/Q analog outputs could be used for panadapter apps, etc. Backward compatibility isn't that important to me - but for existing users I am sure they appreciate this. I think the obvious selling points are that it is a handheld, and since I suppose Mizuho there hasn't been anything new on the market that was a true HF handheld. And also since it is SDR, users should be able download new code releases rather easily; even being able to experiment on their own. 73, Wayne N6KR Thanks and 73's, John W. KJ6HCV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Approx Cost/User Downloads/Dev
John, I am not Wayne, but I would like to inject a few thoughts. First, the KX3 is an SDR radio - yes, it is direct conversion, unlike the K3 which first mixes to an 8 MHz IF and then processes the DSP at 15 kHz before going to baseband. Otherwise, most of the functionality of the K3 will be present in the KX3. While the KX3 will have its own firmware to accomplish the purposes of its normal functions, it also offers I/Q outputs, so the user can follow it with any amount of user provided or open source software (running in a PC or Mac or Linux computer). That allows separate user created SDR functions which can be done with the KX3. The I/Q output of the KX3 allow an enormous amount of user flexibility and experimentation above and beyond the aim of the KX3 mainstream design -- it is all in the firmware where firmware is defined as that in the KX3 or as that in some external application that processes the signals differently. In the meantime, the KX3 firmware allows it to be used as a complete transceiver in a stand-alone package with the Elecraft provided KX3 firmware. IMHO, that is the best of both worlds. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/25/2011 5:35 PM, John Westmoreland wrote: Hello Wayne, On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Wayne Burdickn...@elecraft.com wrote: John Westmoreland wrote: What is the ballpark cost for the KX3? Our target is still $799 for the basic 160-6 meter/10 watt/all-mode KX3 kit, less options. Slightly higher when factory assembled. Prices were based on cost of parts in May, and everything is going up industry-wide, so it's possible prices may change by the time we start shipping. Can I pre-order one today? I will call, you can charge my CC, and I will happily wait. Will users be able to download their own code to the KX3? Probably not. As with our other products, we carefully control all aspects of MCU and DSP firmware performance, based our very fast real-time operating system. Making the firmware open-source would create numerous customer support and design challenges. Will you tell me what MCU and DSP you are using? If users are allowed to experiment on their own, of course it will be at our own peril. On the other hand, the KX3 will support the entire K3 remote-control command set, so all existing and future PC/Mac/Linux K3 applications will work with the KX3. Plenty of room for creativity in that domain. I'm picturing control via smart phones, netbooks, and iPads. The KX3's I/Q analog outputs could be used for panadapter apps, etc. Backward compatibility isn't that important to me - but for existing users I am sure they appreciate this. I think the obvious selling points are that it is a handheld, and since I suppose Mizuho there hasn't been anything new on the market that was a true HF handheld. And also since it is SDR, users should be able download new code releases rather easily; even being able to experiment on their own. 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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I can see using such an app. The things that I would want to see initially in such a program would be: Tuning, both by some equivalent of knob turning and by direct entry AF RF gain adjustments shift width adjustments mode switching antenna switching ATU control Memory access and maybe even memory management. No dig intended on other memory managers here, I just think it would be nice for the app to be a one-stop affair. Would like to browse the memories in order to select what I want to tune to, and then if I see something wrong, would like to edit it in the moment. As you can see, my needs in such a thing are basic. Anything beyond what I've listed here would be great, but not at the expense of these 6 core things. Do these core things *really* well, and you'll have a winner, IMHO. 73 Aloha, Dave AH6TD On Aug 25, 2011, at 11:03 AM, David Fleming wrote: --- Wayne wrote: I'm picturing control via smart phones, netbooks, and iPads. I've done some preliminary design work on a K3 remote control app for iOS (iPhone/iPad). I'm curious if there is much demand for such an app? And if so, what features/functionality would be most desirable? David, W4SMT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Adding on to the discussion... For an iPad app I hope there are no knobs! iPad is all about touch gestures. Touch finger sweeps for tuning should work great. I can see one use of a knob if it has one of those little finger depressions on it and you can then use touch to spin the knob around. Shift and width adjustments can be done using the pinch motion touch gesture. Of course, all other buttons and and switches are touch as well. As far as browsing memories idea mentioned below, one way to do this is to do a full page sweep by flicking a page aside and bringing up a new page. Each page is the same basic interface for the KX3 but each new page is a different setup with memories, modes, and so on. Unfortunately, there are still a number of ipad apps that are still in the old mouse keyboard mode of interaction. The ipad is best used with touch of course so as much of the touch gesture world that is possible should be used where it fits. As far as going over board though -- I think Lion went a little overboard with its touch gestures. Very powerful but so many that I can't remember them all. Especially when the gesture is two-figured sweeps versus 3-finger sweeps. Can't remember which is which most of the time. Finally though on Lion I am used to the new way of scrolling -- I have been retrained to scroll the page instead of scrolling the scroll bar -- for you non Lion people, the movement is in opposite directions. 73, phil, K7PEH Two iMacs, Two Mac Book Pro laptops, Two iPhones, one iPad (xyl doesn't want one). On Aug 25, 2011, at 6:14 PM, David Herring wrote: I can see using such an app. The things that I would want to see initially in such a program would be: Tuning, both by some equivalent of knob turning and by direct entry AF RF gain adjustments shift width adjustments mode switching antenna switching ATU control Memory access and maybe even memory management. No dig intended on other memory managers here, I just think it would be nice for the app to be a one-stop affair. Would like to browse the memories in order to select what I want to tune to, and then if I see something wrong, would like to edit it in the moment. As you can see, my needs in such a thing are basic. Anything beyond what I've listed here would be great, but not at the expense of these 6 core things. Do these core things *really* well, and you'll have a winner, IMHO. 73 Aloha, Dave AH6TD On Aug 25, 2011, at 11:03 AM, David Fleming wrote: --- Wayne wrote: I'm picturing control via smart phones, netbooks, and iPads. I've done some preliminary design work on a K3 remote control app for iOS (iPhone/iPad). I'm curious if there is much demand for such an app? And if so, what features/functionality would be most desirable? David, W4SMT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
