Re: [Elecraft] New wattmeter plans?
Chuck, I'm glad you're happy with it. But the fact that KV5J is selling a separate box to update the W2 kind of argues for my point that the W2 needs a design refresh. Read the reviews on eHam and you'll see what I mean. https://www.eham.net/reviews/view-product?id=14820 For reference, here's KV5J's site: https://kv5j.com/store/product/digital-display-unit-for-elecraft-w2-watt-meter My guess is that Elecraft will update the W2 when they can't get components to manufacture it any longer, and if they still want to sell wattmeters at that time. Same as any electronics manufacturer does. 73, -Steve WX2S Chuck GuentherSat, 15 Jan 2022 10:01:28 -0800In terms of modernizing the Elecraft W2, I'm surprised no one so far has mentioned the excellent digital display unit offered by KV5J. The combo works great.73, Chuck NI0C __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] New wattmeter plans?
In terms of modernizing the Elecraft W2, I'm surprised no one so far has mentioned the excellent digital display unit offered by KV5J. The combo works great. 73, Chuck NI0C __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] New wattmeter plans?
Many of us remote operators have interfaced most watt meters that have an RS232 port to be web based. The investment can be as basic as a Raspberry PI, USB/RS232 adapter and the cable that goes with the wattmeter. Using the NodeRed hardware integration tool it will give you a web based access to the watt meter (and most other devices). I can see live RF transmission data such as RF power on my iPhone, Macbook, PC or anything else that has a web browser on it. There is a group on groups.io that has 95% of the hard work done for you and you don't need to reinvent the wheel. Just bolt it on the car. :) I have used it with my W2 and my LP100a. Very handy. Mike va3mw On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 2:49 PM Dan Brown wrote: > > Steve — To your point - they’re aimed at different uses. > > I’ve got a W2 - quite happy with it. It’s perfect for what it does. Stays > in line, let’s me know what’s going on between the rig and the antenna, and > I can use it remotely — which is how I generally operate — even if remotely > is just one part of the house to another. > > Would love to see a refresh and modernization - of the software if nothing > else. Maybe build the controller part on an ESP32 type platform. Make it > WiFi or Bluetooth connected… Who knows. Possibilities are endless. > > > > -- > daniel.h.br...@gmail.com > > > On Jan 14, 2022, at 5:25 PM, Steve Masticola via Elecraft < > elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: > > > > Bob, I own a Bird 43 and a few slugs. Problems for station use: It's > not autoranging, doesn't directly measure SWR, and it's a bit cumbersome to > leave on a shelf top. I tried yesterday and I didn't have a good place for > it where it wouldn't be in the way of something. > > > > 73, -Steve WX2S > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to daniel.h.br...@gmail.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to va...@portcredit.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] New wattmeter plans?
Steve — To your point - they’re aimed at different uses. I’ve got a W2 - quite happy with it. It’s perfect for what it does. Stays in line, let’s me know what’s going on between the rig and the antenna, and I can use it remotely — which is how I generally operate — even if remotely is just one part of the house to another. Would love to see a refresh and modernization - of the software if nothing else. Maybe build the controller part on an ESP32 type platform. Make it WiFi or Bluetooth connected… Who knows. Possibilities are endless. -- daniel.h.br...@gmail.com > On Jan 14, 2022, at 5:25 PM, Steve Masticola via Elecraft > wrote: > > Bob, I own a Bird 43 and a few slugs. Problems for station use: It's not > autoranging, doesn't directly measure SWR, and it's a bit cumbersome to leave > on a shelf top. I tried yesterday and I didn't have a good place for it where > it wouldn't be in the way of something. > > 73, -Steve WX2S > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to daniel.h.br...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] New wattmeter plans?
Bob, I own a Bird 43 and a few slugs. Problems for station use: It's not autoranging, doesn't directly measure SWR, and it's a bit cumbersome to leave on a shelf top. I tried yesterday and I didn't have a good place for it where it wouldn't be in the way of something. 73, -Steve WX2S __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] New wattmeter plans?
On 1/13/2022 5:50 PM, Josh Fiden wrote: Bird is a classic, I keep one on out of my 6m amp. But they’re not cheap. Comparing cost and features with an LP100A not a hard choice IMHO. Yes, it's a classic. But the LP100A comes with individually calibrated probes, has peak reading modes, reads complex impedance, and is capable of greater precision. Early in the life of the K3, I'd heard on good authority that an LP100A was in use at Elecraft for final test. I have two Birds and a large stash of elements, but they only get used for bench and troubleshooting. I just made a gift of one to a friend who got burned out in the major wildfire that almost got us too. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] New wattmeter plans?
I came across this very interesting presentation that you may find informative: https://www.hamradioworkbench.com/uploads/1/1/9/9/119903037/k6jey_wattmeter_talk.pdf 73, Chuck K0MV On 1/13/22 7:03 PM, jerry wrote: On 2022-01-13 17:50, Josh Fiden wrote: Bird is a classic, I keep one on out of my 6m amp. But they’re not cheap. Comparing cost and features with an LP100A not a hard choice IMHO. *** Room for both. I have a Bird 4410a. Multiple ranges - can measure from QRP up to 10kW. An Ebay deal. Don't know how well it's calibrated, and it doesn't do peak power. So I just ordered an LP100A. With the work I've been doing with linear amplifiers, I am very interested in accurate power readings. - Jerry KF6VB 73, Josh W6XU Sent from my iPad On Jan 13, 2022, at 5:19 PM, Bob McGraw wrote: Why not just buy a nice clean Bird 43P and a new element or two. Not hamfest elements. That works for me and gives total confidence on what I see as power output. Of course if one desires all equipment to match, then so be it. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to je...@tr2.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k...@altaeng.com -- Charles K0MV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] New wattmeter plans?
On 2022-01-13 17:50, Josh Fiden wrote: Bird is a classic, I keep one on out of my 6m amp. But they’re not cheap. Comparing cost and features with an LP100A not a hard choice IMHO. *** Room for both. I have a Bird 4410a. Multiple ranges - can measure from QRP up to 10kW. An Ebay deal. Don't know how well it's calibrated, and it doesn't do peak power. So I just ordered an LP100A. With the work I've been doing with linear amplifiers, I am very interested in accurate power readings. - Jerry KF6VB 73, Josh W6XU Sent from my iPad On Jan 13, 2022, at 5:19 PM, Bob McGraw wrote: Why not just buy a nice clean Bird 43P and a new element or two. Not hamfest elements. That works for me and gives total confidence on what I see as power output. Of course if one desires all equipment to match, then so be it. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to je...@tr2.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] New wattmeter plans?
Bird is a classic, I keep one on out of my 6m amp. But they’re not cheap. Comparing cost and features with an LP100A not a hard choice IMHO. 73, Josh W6XU Sent from my iPad > On Jan 13, 2022, at 5:19 PM, Bob McGraw wrote: > > Why not just buy a nice clean Bird 43P and a new element or two. Not hamfest > elements. That works for me and gives total confidence on what I see as > power output. Of course if one desires all equipment to match, then so be > it. > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] New wattmeter plans?
Why not just buy a nice clean Bird 43P and a new element or two. Not hamfest elements. That works for me and gives total confidence on what I see as power output. Of course if one desires all equipment to match, then so be it. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 1/13/2022 3:23 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: Message: 22 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 03:04:24 + (UTC) From: Steve Masticola To:"elecraft@mailman.qth.net" Subject: [Elecraft] New wattmeter plans? Message-ID:<705597201.2718380.1642043064...@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I bought a W2 today, because my Meterbuilder MB-1 wattmeter's directional coupler died and the product seems to be an orphan. But I wonder if Elecraft has any plans to bring out an updated wattmeter. The W2's design is ten years old, and the LED bargraph displays are getting a bit long in the tooth. Any rumors, or more than rumors? 73, -Steve WX2S __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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On 1/13/2022 3:26 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote: Look at the Telepost meters: http://www.telepostinc.com/ Yes. I've been using LP100A with two probes in my SO2R station for 8-10 years. Recently bought a second one to go inline with my long 6M Yagi, which is on the second antenna port of the KPA1500. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] New wattmeter plans?
I have two W2 meters and like them. I’m also a Powermaster II fan. > On Jan 13, 2022, at 5:27 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote: > > Look at the Telepost meters: > http://www.telepostinc.com/ > > John KK9A > > > Steve Masticola WX2S wrote: > > I bought a W2 today, because my Meterbuilder MB-1 wattmeter's directional > coupler died and the product seems to be an orphan. But I wonder if Elecraft > has any plans to bring out an updated wattmeter. The W2's design is ten > years old, and the LED bargraph displays are getting a bit long in the > tooth. > Any rumors, or more than rumors? > > 73, -Steve WX2S > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to tvto...@mac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] New wattmeter plans?
On 2022-01-13 15:26, j...@kk9a.com wrote: Look at the Telepost meters: http://www.telepostinc.com/ *** Wow. OK, I ordered one. - Jerry KF6VB John KK9A Steve Masticola WX2S wrote: I bought a W2 today, because my Meterbuilder MB-1 wattmeter's directional coupler died and the product seems to be an orphan. But I wonder if Elecraft has any plans to bring out an updated wattmeter. The W2's design is ten years old, and the LED bargraph displays are getting a bit long in the tooth. Any rumors, or more than rumors? 73, -Steve WX2S __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to je...@tr2.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] New wattmeter plans?
Look at the Telepost meters: http://www.telepostinc.com/ John KK9A Steve Masticola WX2S wrote: I bought a W2 today, because my Meterbuilder MB-1 wattmeter's directional coupler died and the product seems to be an orphan. But I wonder if Elecraft has any plans to bring out an updated wattmeter. The W2's design is ten years old, and the LED bargraph displays are getting a bit long in the tooth. Any rumors, or more than rumors? 73, -Steve WX2S __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] New wattmeter plans?
I bought a W2 today, because my Meterbuilder MB-1 wattmeter's directional coupler died and the product seems to be an orphan. But I wonder if Elecraft has any plans to bring out an updated wattmeter. The W2's design is ten years old, and the LED bargraph displays are getting a bit long in the tooth. Any rumors, or more than rumors? 73, -Steve WX2S __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
