Re: [Elecraft] Please recommend an HD monitor to use with P3SVGA
On Mon,7/4/2016 2:27 AM, Mike K2MK wrote: The problem with recommending a model number is that within a year of purchasing a monitor it is usually superceded by a different model. Yes. A year or two ago, I discovered a 24-in Samsung at Costco that runs from a nominal 14VDC wall wart. It's an SMPS and noisy, but because it's 14VDC, it's easy to replace with a 12VDC linear wall wart or run from your shack 12-14VDC power supply. To figure out what power the monitor requires, study their spec sheet carefully and also blown-up photos of the rear panel (you may need to get to the mfr website). With two large monitors on a desk it's also worth considering adjustable monitor support arms. They let you situate the monitors for best viewing heights and angles without taking up valuable desk surface for your equipment. More great advice. I've found mounts like this at amazon. A double-arm mount that clamps onto a horizontal surface and places monitors side-by-side cost me about $70; another that places one above the other about the same price. And there's a company called "monoprice" that sells a single arm for about $50. The tricky part about using these mounts is that they are designed to be used with a monitor that accepts a VESA mounting plate. Not all monitors have that (four screw threads at a certain spacing), but there's also a "garage" operation that makes mounts that retrofit some models of Samsung monitors. All found on the internet. Another issue in choosing a monitor is RFI, which can be from the SMPS wall wart, AND from the monitor itself. W4UAT gave me a different Samsung model that had touch controls that had awful RFI problems -- his TX made the monitor go huts, and it put out lots of RF noise that I could not kill. The Samsung monitors I bought are not completely clean, but can be made clean enough that I can't hear them in my antennas by choking their video and power cables. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Please recommend an HD monitor to use with P3SVGA
I realize this is off the topic of which monitor to get, but multiple monitors do take up more space. The idea of mounting a monitor, or monitors on arms does address the issue of desk space, but I decided against that due to the cost issue, and those arms still need to be mounted on something. My solution was VERY much less expensive. I made sure my monitors were VESA mount capable. I then mounted them to the wall directly in front of me. Yes, I put about three holes in the wall to mount an angle bracket to the wall. I then screwed another angled bracket to the back of each monitor and they then 'hang' on the bracket that I attached to the wall. The result is that the monitors are at the exact same height, and mine are pushed together so they touch. I know that no solution is perfect for every person or situation, but many people who have seen pictures of my shack have asked how I got two monitors to stay so perfectly aligned in relation to each other, and still have room on my small desk for my K3, KPA500, P3 etc. 73 de Dave K9FN On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 5:27 AM, Mike K2MK wrote: > Hi Doug, > > The problem with recommending a model number is that within a year of > purchasing a monitor it is usually superceded by a different model. I do > have some suggestions that you might not have considered. > > Consider getting a monitor that can also serve as a second monitor for your > PC. Most monitors today have multiple inputs. A few years ago that would > have been SVGA and DVI. Later it became SVGA and HDMI. Now you might also > find SVGA, DVI, and HDMI. But that's not the whole story. You want to make > sure that you can change the monitor with a push-button at the bottom of > the > monitor. Some monitors require that you go into the monitor program > settings. That would be much less convenient. > > When I'm using the P3 I'll push the monitor button to go into SVGA. When > the > P3 is off the monitor automatically switches back to the DVI input thus > acting as a secondary monitor output from my PC. > > Typical 22" monitors can display the 1440 x 900 from the P3 quite nicely. > Of > my ASUS and ViewSonic low-cost monitors I prefer the ViewSonic. The colors > are more realistic. The ASUS adjustments don't seem capable of getting the > softer colors I'm interested in. My ViewSonic model number is VA2265smh. > The > ASUS is model number VS228H-P. > > With two large monitors on a desk it's also worth considering adjustable > monitor support arms. They let you situate the monitors for best viewing > heights and angles without taking up valuable desk surface for your > equipment. > > 73, > Mike K2MK > > > > Doug Hensley wrote > > Subject says it all. Looking for a clear recommendation for > > > > a decent monitor that will last. Also what is too small and > > > > what is too big and so a waste of room? > > > > One side of me tells me anything that will display text well > > > > will display the P3 signal but another side tells me "Don't > > > > assume !!). > > > > Please respond in private if you'd like. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Doug W5JV > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Please-recommend-an-HD-monitor-to-use-with-P3SVGA-tp7619579p7619605.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dpbu...@gmail.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Please recommend an HD monitor to use with P3SVGA
Hi Doug, The problem with recommending a model number is that within a year of purchasing a monitor it is usually superceded by a different model. I do have some suggestions that you might not have considered. Consider getting a monitor that can also serve as a second monitor for your PC. Most monitors today have multiple inputs. A few years ago that would have been SVGA and DVI. Later it became SVGA and HDMI. Now you might also find SVGA, DVI, and HDMI. But that's not the whole story. You want to make sure that you can change the monitor with a push-button at the bottom of the monitor. Some monitors require that you go into the monitor program settings. That would be much less convenient. When I'm using the P3 I'll push the monitor button to go into SVGA. When the P3 is off the monitor automatically switches back to the DVI input thus acting as a secondary monitor output from my PC. Typical 22" monitors can display the 1440 x 900 from the P3 quite nicely. Of my ASUS and ViewSonic low-cost monitors I prefer the ViewSonic. The colors are more realistic. The ASUS adjustments don't seem capable of getting the softer colors I'm interested in. My ViewSonic model number is VA2265smh. The ASUS is model number VS228H-P. With two large monitors on a desk it's also worth considering adjustable monitor support arms. They let you situate the monitors for best viewing heights and angles without taking up valuable desk surface for your equipment. 73, Mike K2MK Doug Hensley wrote > Subject says it all. Looking for a clear recommendation for > > a decent monitor that will last. Also what is too small and > > what is too big and so a waste of room? > > One side of me tells me anything that will display text well > > will display the P3 signal but another side tells me "Don't > > assume !!). > > Please respond in private if you'd like. > > Thank you. > > Doug W5JV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Please-recommend-an-HD-monitor-to-use-with-P3SVGA-tp7619579p7619605.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Please recommend an HD monitor to use with P3SVGA
I have to say that I have been totally satisfied with my two AOC monitors, don't recall the model but the one was for my computer and it cost around 110 shipped. It's a 12V monitor and has its own quiet switching supply like a laptop uses. Incredibly low power requirement and it's great to look at. Then B&H had a sale and I bought its bigger brother, the 27" E2752S for around $120. It too is ultra low power draw, has an internal power supply, its been on all day and is cool to the touch. I use the smaller 23" for the P3 and the larger for the computer. I just felt all around both of them and there is no warm spots at all. Couldn't suggest a better monitor, these are perfect; Great picture detail & color, not RFI inducing and far cheaper than any of the big brands. 73, Gary KA1J > Subject says it all. Looking for a clear recommendation for > > a decent monitor that will last. Also what is too small and > > what is too big and so a waste of room? > > > One side of me tells me anything that will display text well > > will display the P3 signal but another side tells me "Don't > > assume !!). > > > Please respond in private if you'd like. > > > Thank you. > > > Doug W5JV > > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to g...@ka1j.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Please recommend an HD monitor to use with P3SVGA
Being a bit of a tightwad, I picked up an ACER S201HL 20" monitor on sale ($60 IIRC). Works FB for me. Been using it for four years now. The 20" size is a comfortable reading size for me with the monitor three feet or so away. Some will say it is not possible to have a monitor that is "too big", Hi! 73, Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Hensley Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2016 1:07 PM To: Elecraft List Subject: [Elecraft] Please recommend an HD monitor to use with P3SVGA Subject says it all. Looking for a clear recommendation for a decent monitor that will last. Also what is too small and what is too big and so a waste of room? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Please recommend an HD monitor to use with P3SVGA
I have a pair of P3's driving a pair of 23" diagonal measurement monitors, running at 1440 x 900 resolution, which is the best compromise of responsiveness and granularity. I think that size monitor is just about right, especially for displaying large segments of the band. For example, in a CW contest, I can display about 40 KHz of the band, and still be able to easily detect vacant spaces where I can slide in and start calling CQ. Monitors of about that size are also the sweet spot in the pricing right now. Whatever you get, make sure it will run at 1440 x 900. You will probably have to download and read the owner's manual to make sure. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ -Original Message- From: Doug Hensley Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2016 1:06 PM To: Elecraft List Subject: [Elecraft] Please recommend an HD monitor to use with P3SVGA Subject says it all. Looking for a clear recommendation for a decent monitor that will last. Also what is too small and what is too big and so a waste of room? One side of me tells me anything that will display text well will display the P3 signal but another side tells me "Don't assume !!). Please respond in private if you'd like. Thank you. Doug W5JV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k6ll.d...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Please recommend an HD monitor to use with P3SVGA
Subject says it all. Looking for a clear recommendation for a decent monitor that will last. Also what is too small and what is too big and so a waste of room? One side of me tells me anything that will display text well will display the P3 signal but another side tells me "Don't assume !!). Please respond in private if you'd like. Thank you. Doug W5JV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
