[Elecraft] Remote K2

2004-10-11 Thread John Huffman
Due to antenna restrictions, I am thinking of controlling my K2 remotely and 
would be interested in any advice.


I want to run the K2 control software from my home computer and connect to the 
radio over a virtual serial port via telephone or UHF link.  I could use a 
second phone line or UHF link to get audio back and forth.


I currently use N4PY software to control the radio via my computer.

Anyone tried this?  What equipment would I need?  What software for the link? 
Do I need a computer at the remote site?


Thanks in advance.

73 de NA8M
John 


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Re: [Elecraft] Remote K2

2004-10-11 Thread Richard Thorne
John:

Check out http://www.trx-manager.com for rig control and
http://www.skype.com for audio.

Both work great.  TRX Manager can be controlled over tcp-ip and skype
does an excellent job with audio.  You really need a high speed
connection for it to work well.

I'm currently running a TS-480 via remote and its almost plug and play.
TRX will handle rotor control, cw and will give you full software
control of the K2.

You will need a computer at both ends as Skype uses the sound card to
get audio back and forth.

One of these days when I build a K2 I will remote it also.

Also check out N8LP's web site at http://www.telepostinc.com/n8lp.html
he has quite a few good ideas with diagrams along with some downloadable
software.

I don't have any connection with the above links, I'm just a happy user.
I've been running remote since the late 90's and this is the best system
by far.

73,

Rich - N5ZC

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Subject: [Elecraft] Remote K2


 Due to antenna restrictions, I am thinking of controlling my K2
remotely and
 would be interested in any advice.

 I want to run the K2 control software from my home computer and
connect to the
 radio over a virtual serial port via telephone or UHF link.  I could
use a
 second phone line or UHF link to get audio back and forth.

 I currently use N4PY software to control the radio via my computer.

 Anyone tried this?  What equipment would I need?  What software for
the link?
 Do I need a computer at the remote site?

 Thanks in advance.

 73 de NA8M
 John

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Re: [Elecraft] Remote K2

2004-10-11 Thread John Huffman

Richard -

Thanks for the info.  I'd like to avoid tcp/ip if I could because of what I 
assume is the latency involved.  I want to operate a remote radio and yet still 
want to have QSK CW.  Does your set-up allow QSK?


I don't have an internet connection faster than dial-up and doubt I could get 
anything better at a remote site.


The latency may be an incorrect assumption on my part and I'd appreciate being 
corrected.


Thanks again,

73 de NA8M
John


John:

Check out http://www.trx-manager.com for rig control and
http://www.skype.com for audio.

Both work great.  TRX Manager can be controlled over tcp-ip and skype
does an excellent job with audio.  You really need a high speed
connection for it to work well.

I'm currently running a TS-480 via remote and its almost plug and play.
TRX will handle rotor control, cw and will give you full software
control of the K2.

You will need a computer at both ends as Skype uses the sound card to
get audio back and forth.

One of these days when I build a K2 I will remote it also.

Also check out N8LP's web site at http://www.telepostinc.com/n8lp.html
he has quite a few good ideas with diagrams along with some downloadable
software.

I don't have any connection with the above links, I'm just a happy user.
I've been running remote since the late 90's and this is the best system
by far.

73,

Rich - N5ZC


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Re: [Elecraft] Remote K2

2004-10-11 Thread Larry Phipps
Yes Jack, you're right... obviously some kind of encoding is required. I 
guess you could invent you own, maybe using fsk, but tcp/ip is there and 
it works. I think he may be saying he wants to avoid an internet 
connection. I had excellent results using ISDN... high quality audio, 
low latency, two isolated channels, one for data and one for audio... 
total security with passwords for connection on both channels, etc. It's 
widely available in my area, and not too expensive (cheaper than DSL or 
cable at both ends).


Technically you could use a modem without tcp/ip, but then you only have 
control of one serial port... whereas the serial servers allow control 
of virtually an unlimited number of serial ports.


TRX-Manager also offers an excellent way of running remote control using 
a built-in telnet server, but it requires TRX-Manager to be running on 
computers at both ends which complicates things a lot. It has a number 
of nice features though.


Larry N8LP


Jack Brindle wrote:

The only way to avoid TCP/IP would be to set up a dedicated twisted  
pair between your place and the remote location. This is a very  
expensive solution, and I'd bet you really don't want to spring for 
it.  The reason that you really need to use TCP/IP is that it is the 
only  protocol suite that is commonly passed among the internet. 
Pretty much  all other protocols are blocked.


The only alternative realistically would be to set up at least one  
phone line at the radio site to carry the control and data 
information  to and from the radio. The device would have to answer 
the phone,  connect to the radio and start controlling things. There 
would need to  be a separate path for the voice or CW data so that rig 
controls data  would not interfere with it - thus you would really 
need two lines. Of  course, this could also be a phone line which 
carries DSL. One function  of the box would be to make sure that only 
you can operate the rig, and  that the rig does NOT transmit when you 
are not controlling it live.


Somehow I suspect that the other TCP/IP networked solutions might  
actually provide what you need. There are some pretty cool ones as 
you  are now learning...


On Oct 11, 2004, at 5:56 AM, John Huffman wrote:



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