Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 ordered 8/24 [Elecraft Shipping Status Page Update]
Not so David. Most of Europe has 1kW or 1.5kW limits. So no surprise that there has been much interest from Europe. 73, David G3WGN M6O David Pratt-2 wrote > I am not sure that many people would need one in Europe, Tony. At > least, in the UK we are only licensed for 26dBW (400W) so the KPA500 > would be more than adequate. > > 73 de David G4DMP > > In a recent message, Tony G6GLP < > g6glp@.co > > writes >>Its great to hear the major shipping has started of the KPA1500 and the >>next question to ask is how long will it take to get over the initial >>order inrush and then move on to offering World wide well at least >>Europe? >> >>73 de Tony G6GLp > > -- > + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + > | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds. | > | Website: http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | > + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto: > Elecraft@.qth > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to > lists+1215531472858-365791@.nabble -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 ordered 8/24 [Elecraft Shipping Status Page Update]
Hi David, We've actually had a large amount of interest from Eu, especially from Germany and other countries. 73, Eric /elecraft.com/ On 2/8/2018 12:57 PM, David Pratt wrote: I am not sure that many people would need one in Europe, Tony. At least, in the UK we are only licensed for 26dBW (400W) so the KPA500 would be more than adequate. 73 de David G4DMP In a recent message, Tony G6GLP writes Its great to hear the major shipping has started of the KPA1500 and the next question to ask is how long will it take to get over the initial order inrush and then move on to offering World wide well at least Europe? 73 de Tony G6GLp __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 ordered 8/24 [Elecraft Shipping Status Page Update]
I am not sure that many people would need one in Europe, Tony. At least, in the UK we are only licensed for 26dBW (400W) so the KPA500 would be more than adequate. 73 de David G4DMP In a recent message, Tony G6GLP writes >Its great to hear the major shipping has started of the KPA1500 and the >next question to ask is how long will it take to get over the initial >order inrush and then move on to offering World wide well at least >Europe? > >73 de Tony G6GLp -- + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds. | | Website: http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 ordered 8/24 [Elecraft Shipping Status Page Update]
Its great to hear the major shipping has started of the KPA1500 and the next question to ask is how long will it take to get over the initial order inrush and then move on to offering World wide well at least Europe? 73 de Tony G6GLp --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 ordered 8/24 [Elecraft Shipping Status Page Update]
Last night we updated the shipping status page with KPA1500 shipping status. http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_shipping_status.htm We received a huge number of orders over the first couple of days (8/24 and 8/25) and the order rate was strong for quite some time after that. (The number of orders in even the first 30 minutes was amazing..) Here's a copy of what is currently posted on the shipping status page: *(Feb 6, 2018) KPA1500s are now Shipping!* KPA1500s have now started shipping against our backlog (we started several days ago). Yay! :-) Its been a lot of hard work getting it released and rolling, but we are all excited to see KPA1500s burning in on the test racks and heading out the door! The first several weeks of production will ramp ramp up slowly, with the production rate speeding up after that. Email and/or phone notifications will be sent each week to customers whose KPA1500 will be shipped within that week. We are now beginning to ship orders from August 24th, the first day we began taking orders. Due to very large rush of orders we received that day, we expect to be shipping the Aug. 24 orders over the next 3-4 weeks. Please note that KPA1500 orders were received by the website, emails, mail, trade shows and phone calls, so order numbers will not indicate exactly where you are in the delivery queue. We also received a very large number of KPA1500 orders daily during the first several weeks, so orders with the same order date will ship spread over a large number of days. You can also see eHam reviews of the KPA1500 at: *http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/13702* 73, Eric /elecraft.com/ On 2/7/2018 7:01 PM, Jim Miller wrote: Early notification received 9:14pm. Confirmation of full paid order received 9:34pm. No notice received yet. Jim ab3cv __ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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It was updated today. Dave Wilburn K4DGW K2/100 - S/N 5982 David Wilburn wrote: I dropped a quick note to Eric yesterday, just asking when they thought they would have a chance to get an update out. He made it sound like it was going to be happening quite soon. Dave Wilburn K4DGW K2/100 - S/N 5982 Dave G. wrote: Would there be any possibility of updating the "Shipping Status" page about every two weeks?? The last update was Feb 15th... Tnx... -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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I dropped a quick note to Eric yesterday, just asking when they thought they would have a chance to get an update out. He made it sound like it was going to be happening quite soon. Dave Wilburn K4DGW K2/100 - S/N 5982 Dave G. wrote: Would there be any possibility of updating the "Shipping Status" page about every two weeks?? The last update was Feb 15th... Tnx... -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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I took the buy it now and figure out when I'll actually get it later approach! Back then they said orders would ship in May. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for field day. 73 de Joseph Durnal NE3R On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Dave G. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would there be any possibility of updating the "Shipping Status" page about > every two weeks?? > The last update was Feb 15th... > > Tnx... > -- > Dave G. KK7SS > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. > But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Shipping Status page...
Would there be any possibility of updating the "Shipping Status" page about every two weeks?? The last update was Feb 15th... Tnx... -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Shipping status page has been updated
Don't feel so bad Don. I put down 50% on May 2 and I am yet to see the shipping invoice. I am leaving next week for Xmas and probably will not see the rig until next year. Raj, N2RD Don Rasmussen wrote: "New K3 orders received after Dec. 10th are targeted March delivery." Alrighty then, if you were wanting to believe that what has been a 6 month wait up until now will turn into a 3 month wait for orders placed today - I guess this news is good for you! ;-) For someone that expected his May 11 order in August, November, and December - it means standby while we get the rest of the May 4 kits out, then we're gonna make some built units, then we'll get right back to you. My guess about 7 months of wait total. No whining, complaining, or unhappiness here - just the facts m'aam! (notice - a "recycled" apostrophe from the Apostrophe Bank is contained in an informal contraction within this message.) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Shipping status page has been updated
"New K3 orders received after Dec. 10th are targeted March delivery." Alrighty then, if you were wanting to believe that what has been a 6 month wait up until now will turn into a 3 month wait for orders placed today - I guess this news is good for you! ;-) For someone that expected his May 11 order in August, November, and December - it means standby while we get the rest of the May 4 kits out, then we're gonna make some built units, then we'll get right back to you. My guess about 7 months of wait total. No whining, complaining, or unhappiness here - just the facts m'aam! (notice - a "recycled" apostrophe from the Apostrophe Bank is contained in an informal contraction within this message.) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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Guys - This thread is rapidly degenerating into a name calling contest. It is OFFICIALLY ended. Please refrain for further posts criticizing what others are saying. Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft List Moderator (from time to time..) P.S. As a general note - My dealing with the email from everyone complaining about each other has actually delayed at least 1 K3 shipment today.. Please keep that in mind when posting to the list. G3SJJ wrote: Stan, you and others are missing the point. ... ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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Stan, you and others are missing the point. The whole problem was not, and still is not, "when we want them." Eric has agreed that information coming out of Aptos has not been accurate. We now understand that orders placed May 1 to Dec 4 should be available by end of Feb. Fine, no problem. That is all we needed to know. If you are told two weeks, then two weeks, the two weeks and still nothing, or if you are told end of December, then someone with an earlier order told a later shipment date, it is bound to create confusions and anger as Eric has agreed. Yes I want mine now, who wouldn't, but I at last have an honest assessment, ie I would hope to have shipment sometime during the next 13 weeks, unless advised further. That's OK by me, you also? Chris G3SJJ Stan Rife wrote: No Jim, it used to be a unique reflector. Now it's just a sounding board for cry babies that can't have their toys when they want them. Stan Rife W5EWA Houston, TX K2 S/N 4216 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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No Jim, it used to be a unique reflector. Now it's just a sounding board for cry babies that can't have their toys when they want them. Stan Rife W5EWA Houston, TX K2 S/N 4216 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 6:13 AM To: Vic K2VCO; Dave Yarnes Cc: elecraft Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Shipping Status Page This is unique Reflector.. I counted up all of the many messages I have received, and it seems that the majority of the messages received on this reflector are on the subject of SHIPPING, and not about the merits or technical issues of the Elecraft products themselves. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Vic K2VCO Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 8:50 PM To: Dave Yarnes Cc: elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping Status Page Dave Yarnes wrote: > And we > can't really do anything about it, which only adds to the frustration. Keep in mind that the only real question is "will I get my K3 before Christmas, in January, or February?" This is not going to matter in the long run unless you are significantly older than even I am. I can see people saying "he should talk, he's a beta tester and has had his K3 for months". True, but I received my beta test version several months after I originally expected it! Anyway, as a beta tester -- although I don't work for Elecraft and don't know all of the nitty gritty about suppliers, etc. -- I am somewhat closer to what is going on at Elecraft than others. And I can say that I see problems being solved, big improvements made, and processes smoothed out as the experiences of the early users are factored in. The fact is that unless a huge meteorite lands in Santa Cruz county, everyone is going to get their K3s, and they are going to be good radios. A watched pot never boils, so watch something else for a while and you will be pleasantly surprised when the box arrives. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco K3 no. 7 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 09:17, Bill W5WVO wrote: > Dave Yarnes wrote: > > > If you think about other rigs that are out there, it does seem to > > take an inordinate amount of time to get them from prototype to > > market product. The IC-7000, for example, was shown at Dayton nearly > > a year before it actually became available. > > Yeah... And they are having problems even now. A friend of mine who bought > one > a few weeks ago from HRO had it blow up on him ( literally -- it smoked > big-time) after being turned on for all of ten minutes in receive mode! I used to be a design engineer for R. L. Drake back in the days when they still made ham gear. A few weeks after we started first shipments of the new TR-7 HF transceiver we received a padded envelope from one of our customers with a note "I think you guys may have lost this." In the envelope was a pair of side cutters he had found wedged between the motherboard and the bottom cover. :=) Al N1AL ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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Dave Yarnes wrote: If you think about other rigs that are out there, it does seem to take an inordinate amount of time to get them from prototype to market product. The IC-7000, for example, was shown at Dayton nearly a year before it actually became available. Yeah... And they are having problems even now. A friend of mine who bought one a few weeks ago from HRO had it blow up on him ( literally -- it smoked big-time) after being turned on for all of ten minutes in receive mode! (HRO did send him a new one immediately.) As someone who has been involved directly in design engineering and indirectly in manufacturing engineering, I can tell you that the latter is in many ways more difficult than the former, as illustrated by the IC-7000 anecdote above. So let's keep in mind what the alternatives to Elecraft are like. :-) Bill W5WVO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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This is unique Reflector.. I counted up all of the many messages I have received, and it seems that the majority of the messages received on this reflector are on the subject of SHIPPING, and not about the merits or technical issues of the Elecraft products themselves. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Vic K2VCO Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 8:50 PM To: Dave Yarnes Cc: elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping Status Page Dave Yarnes wrote: > And we > can't really do anything about it, which only adds to the frustration. Keep in mind that the only real question is "will I get my K3 before Christmas, in January, or February?" This is not going to matter in the long run unless you are significantly older than even I am. I can see people saying "he should talk, he's a beta tester and has had his K3 for months". True, but I received my beta test version several months after I originally expected it! Anyway, as a beta tester -- although I don't work for Elecraft and don't know all of the nitty gritty about suppliers, etc. -- I am somewhat closer to what is going on at Elecraft than others. And I can say that I see problems being solved, big improvements made, and processes smoothed out as the experiences of the early users are factored in. The fact is that unless a huge meteorite lands in Santa Cruz county, everyone is going to get their K3s, and they are going to be good radios. A watched pot never boils, so watch something else for a while and you will be pleasantly surprised when the box arrives. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco K3 no. 7 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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> Keep in mind that the only real question is "will I get my K3 before > Christmas, in January, or February?" This is not going to matter in the > long run unless you are significantly older than even I am. Perhaps so, when seen from your point of view, Vic. But other people may have very valid reasons for wanting accurate shipping information not promises that aren't kept. They may, for example, want to know if they will even be in the country and able to take delivery when their order is ready to be shipped. (This reflector has heard from a couple of people who were going on DXpeditions, others may simply be off to a place in the sun for the winter.) Others (again we have heard from at least one) have sold their only radio to put down a deposit for the K3, not realising it would mean they would be off the air for so long. It may not matter if you have a shack full of other radios, are not planning on going anywhere and are in good health and not significantly past retirement age. But that still leaves a lot of others, I'll bet, who need at best a promise, but if not that an *accurate* prediction of when their order will be met. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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>>"All you need to do is look at history tab Thank you for making the history visible. >>"Where's -your- work, Mark? My work? I have no work related to spreading rumors or guessing what Elecraft will do in the future. Since I'd like this reflector to be mainly devoted to technical issues ... this is my last posting on this (non-technical) topic. Mark ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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The page was meant to summarize what's already happened, and make a reasonable approximation of what to expect over the short term for those who have not been following. All you need to do is look at history tab on any of those pages to see precisely who authored or changed them, and when. This has been quite an effort over the last several weeks I'll say. Where's -your- work, Mark? [Elecraft] Shipping Status Page Mark Bayern plcmark at gmail.com Thu Dec 6 23:09:41 EST 2007 > FWIW... not worth very much ... the author writes authoritatively but doesn't even sign his work or document the source of the delivery estimates. Mark http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/K3_Wiki_at_ZeroBeat.NET ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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> FWIW... not worth very much ... the author writes authoritatively but doesn't even sign his work or document the source of the delivery estimates. Mark ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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FWIW... http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/K3_Where_are_the_production_units%3F ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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This is your denial of the conspiracy? Vic K2VCO vic at rakefet.com The fact is that unless a huge meteorite lands in Santa Cruz county, everyone is going to get their K3s, and they are going to be good radios. A watched pot never boils, so watch something else for a while and you will be pleasantly surprised when the box arrives. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco K3 no. 7 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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Dave Yarnes wrote: And we can't really do anything about it, which only adds to the frustration. Keep in mind that the only real question is "will I get my K3 before Christmas, in January, or February?" This is not going to matter in the long run unless you are significantly older than even I am. I can see people saying "he should talk, he's a beta tester and has had his K3 for months". True, but I received my beta test version several months after I originally expected it! Anyway, as a beta tester -- although I don't work for Elecraft and don't know all of the nitty gritty about suppliers, etc. -- I am somewhat closer to what is going on at Elecraft than others. And I can say that I see problems being solved, big improvements made, and processes smoothed out as the experiences of the early users are factored in. The fact is that unless a huge meteorite lands in Santa Cruz county, everyone is going to get their K3s, and they are going to be good radios. A watched pot never boils, so watch something else for a while and you will be pleasantly surprised when the box arrives. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco K3 no. 7 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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Hi All, Clearly production of the K3 has been a task of proportions not clearly contemplated by the principals at Elecraft. It is certainly understandable that a lot of people are very anxious, if not upset, by all the delays. But I think it's only fair to remember that probably nobody is more anxious to get K3's out the door than Wayne and Eric. After all, they aren't doing all this for fun, and I can't see how they are making any money on all this effort until they actually go out the door. If you think about other rigs that are out there, it does seem to take an inordinate amount of time to get them from prototype to market product. The IC-7000, for example, was shown at Dayton nearly a year before it actually became available. I'm not making excuses for Elecraft, but it does seem obvious to me that there are enormous problems getting something like this done. And we can't really do anything about it, which only adds to the frustration. So, I think it is counterproductive to slam Elecraft too hard. Obviously they grossly underestimated the problems facing them, but apparently that's not hard to do in this business. My only caveat would be that I hope Eric and Wayne are not exhibiting the same degree of patience with their suppliers that they are asking for folks waiting for their K3. Hopefully they have been pounding on desks and raising their voices at least somewhat. But do remember that these delays are costing them, and maybe a lot! I shudder to think how much extra time they have had to spend getting the K3's out the door that have shipped. Good grief! They had the whole staff winding toroids! Off hand, I bet their profit plan has been shot in the ass! Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: "Don Ehrlich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Julian G4ILO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "elecraft" Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping Status Page Right on Julian, I think you speak for a lot of us. The list has been very calm and relaxed about this issue compared to the more personal conversations I have had on the air with fellow K3 customers-to-be which exhibit some very blunt language. The gist of what I am hearing is that most folks, like me, are mature and aware adults who do understand how 'Murphy' can mess up the best laid plans ... but we expect to be kept informed. Julian said: It's nearly Christmas. How do you think your kids would react if you told them they'd have to wait for their presents until March next year? We may not be kids, but I think there is not a lot of difference with many of us especially where our hobby is concerned. but you left out the part about: ...and then in March said nothing at all until, sometime in April, revised the date only when nagged ... and then missed that one also followed by a series of promised weekly "status update" dates which passed by without updates ... and on and on and on. The Elecraft mojo has been seriously damaged and I am tired of biting my tongue .. so there! Don K7FJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Shipping Status Page
Right on Julian, I think you speak for a lot of us. The list has been very calm and relaxed about this issue compared to the more personal conversations I have had on the air with fellow K3 customers-to-be which exhibit some very blunt language. The gist of what I am hearing is that most folks, like me, are mature and aware adults who do understand how 'Murphy' can mess up the best laid plans ... but we expect to be kept informed. Julian said: It's nearly Christmas. How do you think your kids would react if you told them they'd have to wait for their presents until March next year? We may not be kids, but I think there is not a lot of difference with many of us especially where our hobby is concerned. but you left out the part about: ...and then in March said nothing at all until, sometime in April, revised the date only when nagged ... and then missed that one also followed by a series of promised weekly "status update" dates which passed by without updates ... and on and on and on. The Elecraft mojo has been seriously damaged and I am tired of biting my tongue .. so there! Don K7FJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Shipping Status Page
On 06/12/2007, Tom Childers, N5GE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The people running the assembly line at Elecraft have vastly more knowledge > regarding their assembly and shipping capabilities than any of us who have > ordered K3 rigs, no matter what date we ordered them (after Oct 17 for me). Yes, and that's exactly what people are asking for - information. I know it's annoying for those who aren't interested in the K3. But do you really consider it surprising that many people who put in an order for something they really, really want, and then have been kept waiting much longer than they expected are anxious for information about when they may receive their new toy? It's nearly Christmas. How do you think your kids would react if you told them they'd have to wait for their presents until March next year? We may not be kids, but I think there is not a lot of difference with many of us especially where our hobby is concerned. Personally I find the lecturing by people who claim to be superior beings who don't care how long they have to wait as annoying as I imagine the asking about shipping dates is for others. Why not cut those who are guilty of nothing more than wanting to get their hands on a very exciting new radio some slack too? 73, -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Shipping Status Page
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 22:38:38 +1100, you wrote: >Firstly sorry for the post and I'm not wanting to start another lengthy >debate on shipping. > >However, I've just checked the shipping page and note that it still contains >the following info... 'K3 orders received after Oct 17th are targeted for >shipment in mid-late January. New K3 orders received after Nov 26th are >targeted for mid Feb. delivery.' > >I hope I'm off the mark here, but this seems very (very) optimistic >considering orders from early May are still shipping, and that will leave >orders from May through to mid October still to ship (including Dayton >orders and early orders taken without deposit) before mid January !! > >I wonder whether it would be possible, now that you have a handle on >shipping capabilities, to update the shipping page with revised (more >realistic) targets when you do your next weekly update? > >Thanks > >David, VK2NU [snip] Before I filter out all posts with "shipping" or "status" form my email, I'd like to just say one thing: The people running the assembly line at Elecraft have vastly more knowledge regarding their assembly and shipping capabilities than any of us who have ordered K3 rigs, no matter what date we ordered them (after Oct 17 for me). My experience in manufacturing (Military fighters F-111, F-16 and F-22) tells me that the estimated delivery dates were estimated using their knowledge of how the assembly process works, how many workers they have and plan to have as they ramp up to full capacity. There will be some hitches (Suppliers, Over Optimism) and some positive increases in production output(innovation, over pessimistic original estimates, better procedures found, etc). There is no way any of us can apply that data to our "wished delivery dates", so I for one am going to calm down and wait till the UPS guy rings the bell. That's when I will get mine. If it's in Feb. or March (or maybe even early Jan), so be it. Let's cut the guys at Elecraft some slack. They're not at Hogwarts and have no magic wands. Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin 1775 http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Shipping Status Page
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Stewart Baker wrote: What, and let the Cat out of the bag ! Na...it's part of the crash the server routineif the webpage isn't up to date, then people will post about things...and thus the server will be busier. It's really designed to have the begging/raffle appeal start earlier than normalwatch your inbox. 73 - k3hrn Thom,EIEIO Everything happens in about two weeks...I know, cause I hear that every two weeks. Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Shipping Status Page
What, and let the Cat out of the bag ! Stewart G3RXQ On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 22:38:38 +1100, David Douglass wrote: > Firstly sorry for the post and I'm not wanting to start another lengthy > debate on shipping. > > However, I've just checked the shipping page and note that it still contains > the following info... 'K3 orders received after Oct 17th are targeted for > shipment in mid-late January. New K3 orders received after Nov 26th are > targeted for mid Feb. delivery.' > > I hope I'm off the mark here, but this seems very (very) optimistic > considering orders from early May are still shipping, and that will leave > orders from May through to mid October still to ship (including Dayton > orders and early orders taken without deposit) before mid January !! > > I wonder whether it would be possible, now that you have a handle on > shipping capabilities, to update the shipping page with revised (more > realistic) targets when you do your next weekly update? > > Thanks > > David, VK2NU > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.15/1173 - Release Date: 5/12/2007 > 9:29 PM > > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Shipping Status Page
Firstly sorry for the post and I'm not wanting to start another lengthy debate on shipping. However, I've just checked the shipping page and note that it still contains the following info... 'K3 orders received after Oct 17th are targeted for shipment in mid-late January. New K3 orders received after Nov 26th are targeted for mid Feb. delivery.' I hope I'm off the mark here, but this seems very (very) optimistic considering orders from early May are still shipping, and that will leave orders from May through to mid October still to ship (including Dayton orders and early orders taken without deposit) before mid January !! I wonder whether it would be possible, now that you have a handle on shipping capabilities, to update the shipping page with revised (more realistic) targets when you do your next weekly update? Thanks David, VK2NU No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.15/1173 - Release Date: 5/12/2007 9:29 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
