Re: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round?
What ARRL said. Old traffic handlers and paper logging contesters like me seem to do it that way. 73... Randy, W8FN On 06/23/2013 18:20, John Oppenheimer wrote: It may be that the Elecraft placement is based on decades old CW convention/tradition. 1966 ARRL Handbook, Page 555, "Controls" "The majority of c.w. operators tune with the left hand, preferring to leave the right hand free for coping messages and handling the key, and so the receiver should be mounted where the knob can be reached by the left hand." Followed with: "Phone operators aren't tied down this way, and tune the communications receiver with the hand that is more convenient." Same comments found in the 1962 and 1970 Handbooks. John KN5L __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round?
It may be that the Elecraft placement is based on decades old CW convention/tradition. 1966 ARRL Handbook, Page 555, "Controls" "The majority of c.w. operators tune with the left hand, preferring to leave the right hand free for coping messages and handling the key, and so the receiver should be mounted where the knob can be reached by the left hand." Followed with: "Phone operators aren't tied down this way, and tune the communications receiver with the hand that is more convenient." Same comments found in the 1962 and 1970 Handbooks. John KN5L __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round?
I too look directly at the P3 now, it has really changed my operating habits. However, while you are unquestionably in the majority, not *all* people are right-handed. Across the whole population, 10-12% are left-handed [like me], slightly higher among males. Surprisingly, the percentage among hams is quite a bit higher [~20%]. Most hams are male, but that doesn't fully account for the higher percentage. If Elecraft were to take your suggestion and configure the enclosures to keep the right-handers happy, it would exclude us in the minority, but then we're *way* more adaptable than our right-handed brethren and sistren. :-)) A significant number of south-paws paddle north ... almost no north-paws paddle south [I paddle north and Vibroplex south]. My station is inherently sort of right-ish, it's on a built-in desk, and there's not a lot I can do to change that, but I can have the Pigknob on the left. Don't know how it would engineer for Elecraft but your suggestion of alternate mounting capability for the feet and handle sounds good, at least on the surface. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013 - www.cqp.org On 6/22/2013 5:51 AM, N4OI - Ken wrote: It says something about the quality of Elecraft gear when this is the only suggestion I can make . I have the K3 / P3 components of the K-Line and quickly found that the K3 MUST be positioned to the right of the P3 for right-handed ops like myself. This makes the two become one -- as my face is directly in front of the P3, my right hand operates the K3. The criticism is that the handle is now squished right in the middle. It would make more sense to have the little rubber feet be between the P3 and K3 when the K3 is on the right -- or at least punch the holes so the operator could have the option during assembly. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round?
Roger Crofts wrote > ... I had the P3 directly in front, but I had to reach to the left for all > the important controls. I had the bright idea of switching the positions > of the KPA500 and the K3. It was much better. My right hand fell naturally > upon the tuning controls. ... 73 Roger, VK4YB It says something about the quality of Elecraft gear when this is the only suggestion I can make . I have the K3 / P3 components of the K-Line and quickly found that the K3 MUST be positioned to the right of the P3 for right-handed ops like myself. This makes the two become one -- as my face is directly in front of the P3, my right hand operates the K3. The criticism is that the handle is now squished right in the middle. It would make more sense to have the little rubber feet be between the P3 and K3 when the K3 is on the right -- or at least punch the holes so the operator could have the option during assembly. Regardless, I find the K3/P3 combo to be the most intuitive panadapter setup I have used. I built a SoftRock Ensemble II Rx recently and I find the PC-based panadapters with the mouse controls to be very cumbersome -- all that clicking around and twirling the mouse wheel. Also, the small P3 screen is just the right size for where my eyes are positioned up next to the rig... sometimes bigger is not better. And yes, I was reminded of how great the Elecraft Kool-Aid is this morning after firing up my trusty K1 -- keep 'em coming guys! 73 ES GOD BLESS U ES URS DE KEN N4OI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/The-K-line-Is-it-the-wrong-way-round-tp7575529p7575656.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round?
Matt, It's the rush of blood to the head that causes the most difficulty for Northerners.of course it is this same effect that makes us Aussies so "Special"... Giggle On 21 June 2013 11:09, Matt Zilmer wrote: > Doesn't he have to go through the process of learning to increase the > VFO frequency by spinning the Big Knob CCW? > > :) > 73, > matt W6NIA > > On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 10:44:06 +1000, you wrote: > > >You are now officially accepted as an Honorary Aussie > >Now all you need to learn is to stand up when your "DownUnder"... > >Grin > > > >Gary > >Vk1ZZ > >K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3. > >On 21/06/2013 9:19 AM, "Luis V. Romero" wrote: > > > >> I must be a closet Aussie... My K line is also reversed with the K3 on > the > >> left and the KPA500 on the right. That is comfortable for me, as in my > >> SO2R set up, the main radio is actually the K3, radio #2. Always tuned > with > >> my right hand. Habit from the days of HW16's with the RX knob on the > right > >> and the HG10 on the left. > >> > >> Lu - W4LT > >> K3/KRX3/P3/KPA500/K1 > >> Tampa, FL. > >> > >> > >> > >> Message: 9 > >> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:06:41 -0600 > >> From: "Cady, Fred" > >> To: 'Roger Crofts' , elecraft reflector > >> > >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round? > >> Message-ID: > >> <31B0BCE89606784FB09EF0C6CF947**94f03a91b8...@coeexch1.coe.** > montana.edu< > 31b0bce89606784fb09ef0c6cf94794f03a91b8...@coeexch1.coe.montana.edu> > >> > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> > >> Its OK Roger. You drive on the other side too! :-) > >> Cheers, > >> Fred KE7X > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.**net< > elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net>[mailto: > >> elecraft-bounces@**mailman.qth.net ] > On > >> Behalf Of Roger Crofts > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:54 PM > >> To: elecraft reflector > >> Subject: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round? > >> > >> I recently added the KPA500 to my K3 and P3. > >> I put the KPA500 on the right of the P3 with the K3 on the left, just as > >> is shown in all the K line adverts. > >> This is the way it is intended. The rubber feet of the K3 and KPA500 > touch > >> the P3 and their carrying handles are on the outside. Also you will note > >> that the mic and headphone jacks are on the extreme left where their > cables > >> will not get in the way of log books etc. > >> This is all fine and dandy until I had to set the station up as a field > >> portable. The position was cramped and the chair fixed. I had the P3 > >> directly in front, but I had to reach to the left for all the important > >> controls. I had the bright idea of switching the positions of the KPA500 > >> and the K3. It was much better. My right hand fell naturally upon the > >> tuning controls. When I got home I decided to keep the K line in the > >> reverse order. I use the rear sockets for mic and phones, so there is no > >> worry about leads crossing the operating desk. The handles of the KPA500 > >> and K3 are now against the P3 case, but this makes little difference - > See > >> the photo of my station on QRZ.com. > >> Hey, maybe Wayne and Eric are left-handers! > >> > >> 73 Roger, VK4YB > >> __**__**__ > >> > >> __**__**__ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/elecraft< > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htm< > http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> > >> Post: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.**net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> > >__ > >Elecraft mailing list > >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- *Gary - VK1ZZ Skype: Gary.VK1ZZ http://www.qsl.net/vk1zz Motorhome Portable The Shack* *Elecraft K3 P3 Panadapter KPA500FT KAT500FT** * __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round?
Don, wouldn't that be the opposite foot? If true, Aussies must have incredible ped-exterity. matt On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 21:22:58 -0400, you wrote: >In addition to that, he has to learn to handle paddles with the other >hand since everything down there is turned upside-down. Witness that >they drive on the left side of the road down there, so everything must >be "backwards" too.:-) > >73, >Don W3FPR > >On 6/20/2013 9:09 PM, Matt Zilmer wrote: >> Doesn't he have to go through the process of learning to increase the >> VFO frequency by spinning the Big Knob CCW? >> >> :) >> 73, >> matt W6NIA >> >> On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 10:44:06 +1000, you wrote: >> >>> You are now officially accepted as an Honorary Aussie >>> Now all you need to learn is to stand up when your "DownUnder"... >>> Grin >>> >>> Gary >>> Vk1ZZ >>> K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3. >>> On 21/06/2013 9:19 AM, "Luis V. Romero" wrote: >>> >>>> I must be a closet Aussie... My K line is also reversed with the K3 on the >>>> left and the KPA500 on the right. That is comfortable for me, as in my >>>> SO2R set up, the main radio is actually the K3, radio #2. Always tuned with >>>> my right hand. Habit from the days of HW16's with the RX knob on the right >>>> and the HG10 on the left. >>>> >>>> Lu - W4LT >>>> K3/KRX3/P3/KPA500/K1 >>>> Tampa, FL. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Message: 9 >>>> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:06:41 -0600 >>>> From: "Cady, Fred" >>>> To: 'Roger Crofts' , elecraft reflector >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round? >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <31B0BCE89606784FB09EF0C6CF947**94f03a91b8...@coeexch1.coe.**montana.edu<31b0bce89606784fb09ef0c6cf94794f03a91b8...@coeexch1.coe.montana.edu> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>>> >>>> Its OK Roger. You drive on the other side too! :-) >>>> Cheers, >>>> Fred KE7X >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: >>>> elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.**net[mailto: >>>> elecraft-bounces@**mailman.qth.net ] On >>>> Behalf Of Roger Crofts >>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:54 PM >>>> To: elecraft reflector >>>> Subject: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round? >>>> >>>> I recently added the KPA500 to my K3 and P3. >>>> I put the KPA500 on the right of the P3 with the K3 on the left, just as >>>> is shown in all the K line adverts. >>>> This is the way it is intended. The rubber feet of the K3 and KPA500 touch >>>> the P3 and their carrying handles are on the outside. Also you will note >>>> that the mic and headphone jacks are on the extreme left where their cables >>>> will not get in the way of log books etc. >>>> This is all fine and dandy until I had to set the station up as a field >>>> portable. The position was cramped and the chair fixed. I had the P3 >>>> directly in front, but I had to reach to the left for all the important >>>> controls. I had the bright idea of switching the positions of the KPA500 >>>> and the K3. It was much better. My right hand fell naturally upon the >>>> tuning controls. When I got home I decided to keep the K line in the >>>> reverse order. I use the rear sockets for mic and phones, so there is no >>>> worry about leads crossing the operating desk. The handles of the KPA500 >>>> and K3 are now against the P3 case, but this makes little difference - See >>>> the photo of my station on QRZ.com. >>>> Hey, maybe Wayne and Eric are left-handers! >>>> >>>> 73 Roger, VK4YB >>>> __**__**__ >>>> >>>> __**__**__ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: >>>> http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/elecraft<http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htm<http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> >>>> Post: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.**net >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http
Re: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round?
Let me tell you, when I graduated to a HW101, that was a real adjustment from a mental standpoint! The knob and the dial both went the same way! What a revelation! -lu-w4lt- - Original Message - From: "Matt Zilmer" To: "Gary Gregory" Cc: "Luis V. Romero" ; "Elecraft List" ; Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round? Doesn't he have to go through the process of learning to increase the VFO frequency by spinning the Big Knob CCW? :) 73, matt W6NIA On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 10:44:06 +1000, you wrote: You are now officially accepted as an Honorary Aussie Now all you need to learn is to stand up when your "DownUnder"... Grin Gary Vk1ZZ K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3. On 21/06/2013 9:19 AM, "Luis V. Romero" wrote: I must be a closet Aussie... My K line is also reversed with the K3 on the left and the KPA500 on the right. That is comfortable for me, as in my SO2R set up, the main radio is actually the K3, radio #2. Always tuned with my right hand. Habit from the days of HW16's with the RX knob on the right and the HG10 on the left. Lu - W4LT K3/KRX3/P3/KPA500/K1 Tampa, FL. Message: 9 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:06:41 -0600 From: "Cady, Fred" To: 'Roger Crofts' , elecraft reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round? Message-ID: <31B0BCE89606784FB09EF0C6CF947**94f03a91b8...@coeexch1.coe.**montana.edu<31b0bce89606784fb09ef0c6cf94794f03a91b8...@coeexch1.coe.montana.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Its OK Roger. You drive on the other side too! :-) Cheers, Fred KE7X -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.**net[mailto: elecraft-bounces@**mailman.qth.net ] On Behalf Of Roger Crofts Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:54 PM To: elecraft reflector Subject: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round? I recently added the KPA500 to my K3 and P3. I put the KPA500 on the right of the P3 with the K3 on the left, just as is shown in all the K line adverts. This is the way it is intended. The rubber feet of the K3 and KPA500 touch the P3 and their carrying handles are on the outside. Also you will note that the mic and headphone jacks are on the extreme left where their cables will not get in the way of log books etc. This is all fine and dandy until I had to set the station up as a field portable. The position was cramped and the chair fixed. I had the P3 directly in front, but I had to reach to the left for all the important controls. I had the bright idea of switching the positions of the KPA500 and the K3. It was much better. My right hand fell naturally upon the tuning controls. When I got home I decided to keep the K line in the reverse order. I use the rear sockets for mic and phones, so there is no worry about leads crossing the operating desk. The handles of the KPA500 and K3 are now against the P3 case, but this makes little difference - See the photo of my station on QRZ.com. Hey, maybe Wayne and Eric are left-handers! 73 Roger, VK4YB __**__**__ __**__**__ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/elecraft<http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htm<http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> Post: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.**net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round?
In addition to that, he has to learn to handle paddles with the other hand since everything down there is turned upside-down. Witness that they drive on the left side of the road down there, so everything must be "backwards" too.:-) 73, Don W3FPR On 6/20/2013 9:09 PM, Matt Zilmer wrote: Doesn't he have to go through the process of learning to increase the VFO frequency by spinning the Big Knob CCW? :) 73, matt W6NIA On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 10:44:06 +1000, you wrote: You are now officially accepted as an Honorary Aussie Now all you need to learn is to stand up when your "DownUnder"... Grin Gary Vk1ZZ K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3. On 21/06/2013 9:19 AM, "Luis V. Romero" wrote: I must be a closet Aussie... My K line is also reversed with the K3 on the left and the KPA500 on the right. That is comfortable for me, as in my SO2R set up, the main radio is actually the K3, radio #2. Always tuned with my right hand. Habit from the days of HW16's with the RX knob on the right and the HG10 on the left. Lu - W4LT K3/KRX3/P3/KPA500/K1 Tampa, FL. Message: 9 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:06:41 -0600 From: "Cady, Fred" To: 'Roger Crofts' , elecraft reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round? Message-ID: <31B0BCE89606784FB09EF0C6CF947**94f03a91b8...@coeexch1.coe.**montana.edu<31b0bce89606784fb09ef0c6cf94794f03a91b8...@coeexch1.coe.montana.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Its OK Roger. You drive on the other side too! :-) Cheers, Fred KE7X -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.**net[mailto: elecraft-bounces@**mailman.qth.net ] On Behalf Of Roger Crofts Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:54 PM To: elecraft reflector Subject: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round? I recently added the KPA500 to my K3 and P3. I put the KPA500 on the right of the P3 with the K3 on the left, just as is shown in all the K line adverts. This is the way it is intended. The rubber feet of the K3 and KPA500 touch the P3 and their carrying handles are on the outside. Also you will note that the mic and headphone jacks are on the extreme left where their cables will not get in the way of log books etc. This is all fine and dandy until I had to set the station up as a field portable. The position was cramped and the chair fixed. I had the P3 directly in front, but I had to reach to the left for all the important controls. I had the bright idea of switching the positions of the KPA500 and the K3. It was much better. My right hand fell naturally upon the tuning controls. When I got home I decided to keep the K line in the reverse order. I use the rear sockets for mic and phones, so there is no worry about leads crossing the operating desk. The handles of the KPA500 and K3 are now against the P3 case, but this makes little difference - See the photo of my station on QRZ.com. Hey, maybe Wayne and Eric are left-handers! 73 Roger, VK4YB __**__**__ __**__**__ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/elecraft<http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htm<http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> Post: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.**net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round?
Doesn't he have to go through the process of learning to increase the VFO frequency by spinning the Big Knob CCW? :) 73, matt W6NIA On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 10:44:06 +1000, you wrote: >You are now officially accepted as an Honorary Aussie >Now all you need to learn is to stand up when your "DownUnder"... >Grin > >Gary >Vk1ZZ >K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3. >On 21/06/2013 9:19 AM, "Luis V. Romero" wrote: > >> I must be a closet Aussie... My K line is also reversed with the K3 on the >> left and the KPA500 on the right. That is comfortable for me, as in my >> SO2R set up, the main radio is actually the K3, radio #2. Always tuned with >> my right hand. Habit from the days of HW16's with the RX knob on the right >> and the HG10 on the left. >> >> Lu - W4LT >> K3/KRX3/P3/KPA500/K1 >> Tampa, FL. >> >> >> >> Message: 9 >> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:06:41 -0600 >> From: "Cady, Fred" >> To: 'Roger Crofts' , elecraft reflector >> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round? >> Message-ID: >> <31B0BCE89606784FB09EF0C6CF947**94f03a91b8...@coeexch1.coe.**montana.edu<31b0bce89606784fb09ef0c6cf94794f03a91b8...@coeexch1.coe.montana.edu> >> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Its OK Roger. You drive on the other side too! :-) >> Cheers, >> Fred KE7X >> >> -----Original Message- >> From: >> elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.**net[mailto: >> elecraft-bounces@**mailman.qth.net ] On >> Behalf Of Roger Crofts >> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:54 PM >> To: elecraft reflector >> Subject: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round? >> >> I recently added the KPA500 to my K3 and P3. >> I put the KPA500 on the right of the P3 with the K3 on the left, just as >> is shown in all the K line adverts. >> This is the way it is intended. The rubber feet of the K3 and KPA500 touch >> the P3 and their carrying handles are on the outside. Also you will note >> that the mic and headphone jacks are on the extreme left where their cables >> will not get in the way of log books etc. >> This is all fine and dandy until I had to set the station up as a field >> portable. The position was cramped and the chair fixed. I had the P3 >> directly in front, but I had to reach to the left for all the important >> controls. I had the bright idea of switching the positions of the KPA500 >> and the K3. It was much better. My right hand fell naturally upon the >> tuning controls. When I got home I decided to keep the K line in the >> reverse order. I use the rear sockets for mic and phones, so there is no >> worry about leads crossing the operating desk. The handles of the KPA500 >> and K3 are now against the P3 case, but this makes little difference - See >> the photo of my station on QRZ.com. >> Hey, maybe Wayne and Eric are left-handers! >> >> 73 Roger, VK4YB >> __**__**__ >> >> __**__**__ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: >> http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/elecraft<http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htm<http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> >> Post: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.**net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >__ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round?
On 6/20/2013 4:19 PM, Luis V. Romero wrote: My K line is also reversed with the K3 on the left and the KPA500 on the right. Hmmm. My P3s sits on top of my K3s, left and right for SO2R, KPA500 is way off to the side of the right radio on a shelf above the operating desk. All I need to do with it is turn it on and off. My KAT500s sit on that shelf, more or less above the two radios. I keep them in front of me because I switch between antennas. SVGA monitors for the P3s sit on the shelf above. BTW -- I've been collecting 1024/768 monitors, which guys are giving away, and using them for the P3s. I like the resulting display resolution, and FREE is a great price! I use higher res monitors as desktop extenders for the laptop. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round?
You are now officially accepted as an Honorary Aussie Now all you need to learn is to stand up when your "DownUnder"... Grin Gary Vk1ZZ K3, KX3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FT,P3. On 21/06/2013 9:19 AM, "Luis V. Romero" wrote: > I must be a closet Aussie... My K line is also reversed with the K3 on the > left and the KPA500 on the right. That is comfortable for me, as in my > SO2R set up, the main radio is actually the K3, radio #2. Always tuned with > my right hand. Habit from the days of HW16's with the RX knob on the right > and the HG10 on the left. > > Lu - W4LT > K3/KRX3/P3/KPA500/K1 > Tampa, FL. > > > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:06:41 -0600 > From: "Cady, Fred" > To: 'Roger Crofts' , elecraft reflector > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round? > Message-ID: > <31B0BCE89606784FB09EF0C6CF947**94f03a91b8...@coeexch1.coe.**montana.edu<31b0bce89606784fb09ef0c6cf94794f03a91b8...@coeexch1.coe.montana.edu> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Its OK Roger. You drive on the other side too! :-) > Cheers, > Fred KE7X > > -Original Message- > From: > elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.**net[mailto: > elecraft-bounces@**mailman.qth.net ] On > Behalf Of Roger Crofts > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:54 PM > To: elecraft reflector > Subject: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round? > > I recently added the KPA500 to my K3 and P3. > I put the KPA500 on the right of the P3 with the K3 on the left, just as > is shown in all the K line adverts. > This is the way it is intended. The rubber feet of the K3 and KPA500 touch > the P3 and their carrying handles are on the outside. Also you will note > that the mic and headphone jacks are on the extreme left where their cables > will not get in the way of log books etc. > This is all fine and dandy until I had to set the station up as a field > portable. The position was cramped and the chair fixed. I had the P3 > directly in front, but I had to reach to the left for all the important > controls. I had the bright idea of switching the positions of the KPA500 > and the K3. It was much better. My right hand fell naturally upon the > tuning controls. When I got home I decided to keep the K line in the > reverse order. I use the rear sockets for mic and phones, so there is no > worry about leads crossing the operating desk. The handles of the KPA500 > and K3 are now against the P3 case, but this makes little difference - See > the photo of my station on QRZ.com. > Hey, maybe Wayne and Eric are left-handers! > > 73 Roger, VK4YB > __**__**__ > > __**__**__ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: > http://mailman.qth.net/**mailman/listinfo/elecraft<http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.**htm<http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> > Post: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.**net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round?
Hehe. My laptop computer is in front of me with the P3 SVGA display behind it only partially obscured by the laptop screen. The K3 is to my right (about 90 degrees) and the P3 it to its right. My remote antenna switch is to the left of the K3. This lets me run digital modes with very little attention to the K3/P3 combination. I use the RF gain to prevent overdriving the audio A-->D converter and the Shift/Width controls to narrow the bandwidth of the K3 during a QSO. Otherwise I don't touch the controls much. With RTTY, I use AFSK A and actually have to touch the big knob. :-) Logging occurs on the computer, and the broad view of the signals on the band is behind on the SVGA display. Life will probably change when my CW gets good enough to put on the air. If I ran much SSB, I'd probably be using a foot switch PTT and the CM500 microphone. As it is, I use a MH2 -- mostly for local 2M repeaters. YMMV! Cheers - Bill, AE6JV On 6/20/13 at 4:27 PM, k6...@foothill.net (Fred Jensen) wrote: OK, I think you're all wrong. :-) - Bill Frantz| The first thing you need when | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | using a perimeter defense is a | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | perimeter. | Los Gatos, CA 95032 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round?
OK, I think you're all wrong. :-) My KPA500 is on the desk to my right, the K3 is on the shelf above it, the P3 is to the left of the K3 pretty much directly in line with my vision to the right of the laptop [I find I never seem to look at the radio anymore, just watch the P3], and the KAT500 is on the shelf above the K3. My Elmer taught me to send right-handed and manipulate the receiver and transmitter right because I'm left-handed and then I could write legibly in my log. Now that I can put the Pigknob on the left, I'm finding it very comfortable. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013 - www.cqp.org On 6/20/2013 4:19 PM, Luis V. Romero wrote: I must be a closet Aussie... My K line is also reversed with the K3 on the left and the KPA500 on the right. That is comfortable for me, as in my SO2R set up, the main radio is actually the K3, radio #2. Always tuned with my right hand. Habit from the days of HW16's with the RX knob on the right and the HG10 on the left. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round?
I must be a closet Aussie... My K line is also reversed with the K3 on the left and the KPA500 on the right. That is comfortable for me, as in my SO2R set up, the main radio is actually the K3, radio #2. Always tuned with my right hand. Habit from the days of HW16's with the RX knob on the right and the HG10 on the left. Lu - W4LT K3/KRX3/P3/KPA500/K1 Tampa, FL. Message: 9 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:06:41 -0600 From: "Cady, Fred" To: 'Roger Crofts' , elecraft reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round? Message-ID: <31b0bce89606784fb09ef0c6cf94794f03a91b8...@coeexch1.coe.montana.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Its OK Roger. You drive on the other side too! :-) Cheers, Fred KE7X -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Roger Crofts Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:54 PM To: elecraft reflector Subject: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round? I recently added the KPA500 to my K3 and P3. I put the KPA500 on the right of the P3 with the K3 on the left, just as is shown in all the K line adverts. This is the way it is intended. The rubber feet of the K3 and KPA500 touch the P3 and their carrying handles are on the outside. Also you will note that the mic and headphone jacks are on the extreme left where their cables will not get in the way of log books etc. This is all fine and dandy until I had to set the station up as a field portable. The position was cramped and the chair fixed. I had the P3 directly in front, but I had to reach to the left for all the important controls. I had the bright idea of switching the positions of the KPA500 and the K3. It was much better. My right hand fell naturally upon the tuning controls. When I got home I decided to keep the K line in the reverse order. I use the rear sockets for mic and phones, so there is no worry about leads crossing the operating desk. The handles of the KPA500 and K3 are now against the P3 case, but this makes little difference - See the photo of my station on QRZ.com. Hey, maybe Wayne and Eric are left-handers! 73 Roger, VK4YB __ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round?
My line up is left to right too, KPA500, KAT500 above, then P3, K3, works fine for me see QRZ.com. 73 F5VJC On 20 June 2013 06:19, Tom H Childers wrote: > The amp is on the left in my setup with the CW paddles just under the > Clarifier knob and the straight key just to the right of the paddle. > The KAT500 is centered on the p3 on a shelf three inches above it. > > 73, > Tom > Amateur Radio Operator N5GE > ARRL Lifetime Member > QCWA Lifetime Member > > > > On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:53:51 +1000, "Roger Crofts" > wrote: > > >I recently added the KPA500 to my K3 and P3. > >I put the KPA500 on the right of the P3 with the K3 on the left, just as > is shown in all the K line adverts. > >This is the way it is intended. The rubber feet of the K3 and KPA500 > touch the P3 and their carrying handles are on the outside. Also you will > note that the mic and headphone jacks are on the extreme left where their > cables will not get in the way of log books etc. > >This is all fine and dandy until I had to set the station up as a field > portable. The position was cramped and the chair fixed. I had the P3 > directly in front, but I had to reach to the left for all the important > controls. I had the bright idea of switching the positions of the KPA500 > and the K3. It was much better. My right hand fell naturally upon the > tuning controls. When I got home I decided to keep the K line in the > reverse order. I use the rear sockets for mic and phones, so there is no > worry about leads crossing the operating desk. The handles of the KPA500 > and K3 are now against the P3 case, but this makes little difference - See > the photo of my station on QRZ.com. > >Hey, maybe Wayne and Eric are left-handers! > > > >73 Roger, VK4YB > >__ > >Elecraft mailing list > >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round?
The amp is on the left in my setup with the CW paddles just under the Clarifier knob and the straight key just to the right of the paddle. The KAT500 is centered on the p3 on a shelf three inches above it. 73, Tom Amateur Radio Operator N5GE ARRL Lifetime Member QCWA Lifetime Member On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:53:51 +1000, "Roger Crofts" wrote: >I recently added the KPA500 to my K3 and P3. >I put the KPA500 on the right of the P3 with the K3 on the left, just as is >shown in all the K line adverts. >This is the way it is intended. The rubber feet of the K3 and KPA500 touch the >P3 and their carrying handles are on the outside. Also you will note that the >mic and headphone jacks are on the extreme left where their cables will not >get in the way of log books etc. >This is all fine and dandy until I had to set the station up as a field >portable. The position was cramped and the chair fixed. I had the P3 directly >in front, but I had to reach to the left for all the important controls. I had >the bright idea of switching the positions of the KPA500 and the K3. It was >much better. My right hand fell naturally upon the tuning controls. When I got >home I decided to keep the K line in the reverse order. I use the rear sockets >for mic and phones, so there is no worry about leads crossing the operating >desk. The handles of the KPA500 and K3 are now against the P3 case, but this >makes little difference - See the photo of my station on QRZ.com. >Hey, maybe Wayne and Eric are left-handers! > >73 Roger, VK4YB >__ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round?
Its OK Roger. You drive on the other side too! :-) Cheers, Fred KE7X -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Roger Crofts Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 4:54 PM To: elecraft reflector Subject: [Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round? I recently added the KPA500 to my K3 and P3. I put the KPA500 on the right of the P3 with the K3 on the left, just as is shown in all the K line adverts. This is the way it is intended. The rubber feet of the K3 and KPA500 touch the P3 and their carrying handles are on the outside. Also you will note that the mic and headphone jacks are on the extreme left where their cables will not get in the way of log books etc. This is all fine and dandy until I had to set the station up as a field portable. The position was cramped and the chair fixed. I had the P3 directly in front, but I had to reach to the left for all the important controls. I had the bright idea of switching the positions of the KPA500 and the K3. It was much better. My right hand fell naturally upon the tuning controls. When I got home I decided to keep the K line in the reverse order. I use the rear sockets for mic and phones, so there is no worry about leads crossing the operating desk. The handles of the KPA500 and K3 are now against the P3 case, but this makes little difference - See the photo of my station on QRZ.com. Hey, maybe Wayne and Eric are left-handers! 73 Roger, VK4YB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] The K line. Is it the wrong way round?
I recently added the KPA500 to my K3 and P3. I put the KPA500 on the right of the P3 with the K3 on the left, just as is shown in all the K line adverts. This is the way it is intended. The rubber feet of the K3 and KPA500 touch the P3 and their carrying handles are on the outside. Also you will note that the mic and headphone jacks are on the extreme left where their cables will not get in the way of log books etc. This is all fine and dandy until I had to set the station up as a field portable. The position was cramped and the chair fixed. I had the P3 directly in front, but I had to reach to the left for all the important controls. I had the bright idea of switching the positions of the KPA500 and the K3. It was much better. My right hand fell naturally upon the tuning controls. When I got home I decided to keep the K line in the reverse order. I use the rear sockets for mic and phones, so there is no worry about leads crossing the operating desk. The handles of the KPA500 and K3 are now against the P3 case, but this makes little difference - See the photo of my station on QRZ.com. Hey, maybe Wayne and Eric are left-handers! 73 Roger, VK4YB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
