Re: [Elecraft] Trip to Canada

2005-03-05 Thread Chuck Mabbott
He will want to make sure he does a  VE3/Call  or Call/VE3 depending what 
net you talk to.  The key is so the Canadian Ops know he is in country.  A 
bunch of nice guys over there!


73  Chuck  AA8VS
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But he has to operate within the Canadian band plan - right? Just to make 
a point - not to whine - I often hear Canadian SSB on top of the 7.070 PSK 
frequency.

73,
Paul
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Re: [Elecraft] Trip to Canada

2005-03-05 Thread Brian Mury
On Sat, 2005-05-03 at 12:22 -0500, Chuck Mabbott wrote:
 He will want to make sure he does a  VE3/Call  or Call/VE3 depending what 
 net you talk to.

Call/VE3 only, actually. Here's the relevant excerpt from RIC-2:

2. The operator of an amateur station licensed by the Government of the United
   States shall identify the station:

   (a) by transmitting the call sign assigned to the licensee's station by the
   Federal Communications Commission; 

   (b) if transmitting: 
   (i) by radiotelephony, by adding the word mobile or portable, or 
   (ii) by radiotelegraphy, by adding an oblique character (/); and 

   (c) by adding the Canadian amateur call sign prefix set out in Column I of an
   item of Schedule IV for the geographical location of the station set out
   in Column II of that item.

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73, Brian
VE7NGR

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Re: [Elecraft] Trip to Canada

2005-03-04 Thread designer
But he has to operate within the Canadian band plan - right? Just to 
make a point - not to whine - I often hear Canadian SSB on top of the 
7.070 PSK frequency.

73,
Paul
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Re: [Elecraft] Trip to Canada

2005-03-04 Thread Brian Mury
On Fri, 2005-04-03 at 16:59 -0800, designer wrote:
 But he has to operate within the Canadian band plan - right? Just to 
 make a point - not to whine - I often hear Canadian SSB on top of the 
 7.070 PSK frequency.

He has to operate according to Canadian regulations, yes.

Our regulations do not specify what mode may be operated where, either
by mode or by bandwidth. There is a maximum bandwidth for each band
(6kHz for all HF bands except 30m and 10m). As long as we are within the
maximum bandwidth and within the ham bands, we are legal.

The only bandplan we have is a gentleman's agreement. It lists 7.050
to 7.100 as SSB. It doesn't list PSK31 at 7.070, probably because it
hasn't been updated since 1995. There are probably lots of operators who
don't realize that 7.070 is a common PSK31 frequency.

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VE7NGR

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[Elecraft] Trip to Canada

2005-03-03 Thread Charles Greene

Hey all you VE's,

I realize this is off topic, but I need some information.I am going to 
drive to Ontario next week on business and I have my mobile rig in the 
car.  I didn't intend to operate it, but can I bring it along and bring it 
back in?  I hate to take it out; it's such a hassle :-)



73,  Chas,  W1CG 


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Re: [Elecraft] Trip to Canada

2005-03-03 Thread Hank Kohl K8DD

Yes, you can take it along.
You should, however, take it in to US Customs at the border crossing and 
have it registered on a Customs Form 4457.  That will show that you had 
it when they looked at it!  And, when you return to the US and the 
Customs person at the re-entry point asks what are you bringing back 
with you? and you say nothing and he says what about that radio that 
you bought in Canada? . you will have the piece of paper that says 
you had it before you entered Canada.
If the Customs person wants to be a complete PITA, he can pull you into 
secondary and make life miserable.
If you have the original receipt for the radio, complete with the serial 
number, that should work too.


That said . I have gone to Canada and returned probably several 
hundred times with radios and other electronic stuff and only been 
questioned about Form 4457 one time . and that guy was almost a PITA!


And that said  it is far better to be prepared because US Customs 
can be one place that it is NOT better to ask forgiveness than it is to 
ask permission!So my best advice, after quite a few DXpedition trips 
that have taken us into or through Canada would be to take the safe 
route and have the paperwork!


And you can have fun operating /VE3!

7273  HankK8DD

Charles Greene wrote:


Hey all you VE's,

I realize this is off topic, but I need some information.I am 
going to drive to Ontario next week on business and I have my mobile 
rig in the car.  I didn't intend to operate it, but can I bring it 
along and bring it back in?  I hate to take it out; it's such a hassle 
:-)



73,  Chas,  W1CG
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Re: [Elecraft] Trip to Canada

2005-03-03 Thread Brian Mury
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 13:30 -0500, Charles Greene wrote:
 Hey all you VE's,
 
 I realize this is off topic, but I need some information.I am going to 
 drive to Ontario next week on business and I have my mobile rig in the 
 car.  I didn't intend to operate it, but can I bring it along and bring it 
 back in?  I hate to take it out; it's such a hassle :-)

You should have no problem bringing it into Canada. Taking it back into
the US is up to US Customs! :-) I don't know how the US handles this; in
Camada, I can take items to Canada Customs and they will give me a
green card listing the items and their serial numbers. When I return
to Canada, that is my proof that I did not buy the item on my trip to
the US, so I won't get charged taxes at the border.

BTW, you can operate in Canada. As an Extra class, you will have full
privileges in Canada. Just sign as W1CG/VE3 (for Ontario), which you
would pronounce on voice as W1CG mobile VE3, or W1CG portable VE3 if
you set the rig up out of the car.

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73, Brian
VE7NGR

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Re: [Elecraft] Trip to Canada

2005-03-03 Thread Kirby Nesbitt
Actually.. you will have an issue. K2 is an official registered 
brand used on cattle from a particular ranch here in AB. It is 
registered with US customs at all border crossings. If the radio is less 
than 32 months old you might get it back in,  but theres really no 
guarantee.


VE6IV


Brian Mury wrote:


On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 13:30 -0500, Charles Greene wrote:
 


Hey all you VE's,

I realize this is off topic, but I need some information.I am going to 
drive to Ontario next week on business and I have my mobile rig in the 
car.  I didn't intend to operate it, but can I bring it along and bring it 
back in?  I hate to take it out; it's such a hassle :-)
   



You should have no problem bringing it into Canada. Taking it back into
the US is up to US Customs! :-) I don't know how the US handles this; in
Camada, I can take items to Canada Customs and they will give me a
green card listing the items and their serial numbers. When I return
to Canada, that is my proof that I did not buy the item on my trip to
the US, so I won't get charged taxes at the border.

BTW, you can operate in Canada. As an Extra class, you will have full
privileges in Canada. Just sign as W1CG/VE3 (for Ontario), which you
would pronounce on voice as W1CG mobile VE3, or W1CG portable VE3 if
you set the rig up out of the car.

 




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[Elecraft] Trip to Canada -- my experience over '95 to '03

2005-03-03 Thread Charles Mabbott
I have been back and forth several times and merely told the fellow at
border I had a ham radio.  I always had my license handy but have never been
asked about anything else.

How come your not going to operate, if I may?

73  
---
Chuck  AA8VS
 
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Subject: [Elecraft] Trip to Canada

Hey all you VE's,

I realize this is off topic, but I need some information.I am going to 
drive to Ontario next week on business and I have my mobile rig in the 
car.  I didn't intend to operate it, but can I bring it along and bring it 
back in?  I hate to take it out; it's such a hassle :-)


73,  Chas,  W1CG 

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Re: [Elecraft] Trip to Canada

2005-03-03 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
That should not be a problem. Trademarks are product category specific. 
A 'K2' trademark for cattle will not be in the same category as the 'K2' 
tm for Radio Equipment. :-)


73, Eric  WA6HHQ


Kirby Nesbitt wrote:
Actually.. you will have an issue. K2 is an official registered 
brand used on cattle from a particular ranch here in AB. It is 
registered with US customs at all border crossings. If the radio is less 
than 32 months old you might get it back in,  but theres really no 
guarantee.


VE6IV

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On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 13:30 -0500, Charles Greene wrote:


Hey all you VE's,

I realize this is off topic, but I need some information.I am 
going to drive to Ontario next week on business and I have my mobile 
rig in the car.  I didn't intend to operate it, but can I bring it 
along and bring it back in?  I hate to take it out; it's such a 
hassle :-)



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