Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
After a quick read through your K4 pedestrian mobile exercise, it occurs to me you would get a lighter rig with a longer "on" time using a LiFePO4 battery. :-) But what fun! 73 Bill AE6JV On 1/18/21 at 11:54 AM, n...@elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) wrote: (Seriously, as fun distractions go, I vote for our newsletter article about using the K4 pedestrian mobile.) --- Bill Frantz| Truth and love must prevail | Periwinkle (408)348-7900 | over lies and hate. | 150 Rivermead Rd #235 www.pwpconsult.com | - Vaclav Havel | Peterborough, NH 03458 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
Sure. Here's the link: https://mailchi.mp/elecraft/dec-2020-newsletter Wayne N6KR > On Jan 18, 2021, at 9:13 AM, Ken B wrote: > > Wayne can you please reshare the news letter. My old eyes appear to have > missed it > > Thanks Ken > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 11:58 AM, Wayne Burdick > wrote: > Either I post here or start a blog :) > > (Seriously, as fun distractions go, I vote for our newsletter article about > using the K4 pedestrian mobile.) > > Wayne > N6KR > > > > On Jan 18, 2021, at 8:47 AM, John Harper wrote: > > > > The conversation has now been shifted from "When will my K4 be shipped?" > > Well played, Wayne ;-) > > > > John AE5X > > https://ae5x.blogspot.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
Wayne can you please reshare the news letter. My old eyes appear to have missed it Thanks Ken Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 11:58 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Either I post here or start a blog :) (Seriously, as fun distractions go, I vote for our newsletter article about using the K4 pedestrian mobile.) Wayne N6KR > On Jan 18, 2021, at 8:47 AM, John Harper wrote: > > The conversation has now been shifted from "When will my K4 be shipped?" > Well played, Wayne ;-) > > John AE5X > https://ae5x.blogspot.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to backhoe...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
Can we stop this crap already? Enough is enough :-( > On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:26 AM, Joseph Shuman via Elecraft > wrote: > > Too much said already. > Free speech is under assault. > A government that militarizes its seat of power fears its citizens. > Bottom line, expect your transmissions to be subject to the same analysis as > your emails, texts, posts and any other communications. > > But don’t worry, I just went to the top of the POI list! > > Keeping Watch- > shu > > Joe Shuman, NZ8P > __ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
Either I post here or start a blog :) (Seriously, as fun distractions go, I vote for our newsletter article about using the K4 pedestrian mobile.) Wayne N6KR > On Jan 18, 2021, at 8:47 AM, John Harper wrote: > > The conversation has now been shifted from "When will my K4 be shipped?" > Well played, Wayne ;-) > > John AE5X > https://ae5x.blogspot.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
The conversation has now been shifted from "When will my K4 be shipped?" Well played, Wayne ;-) John AE5X https://ae5x.blogspot.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
Too much said already. Free speech is under assault. A government that militarizes its seat of power fears its citizens. Bottom line, expect your transmissions to be subject to the same analysis as your emails, texts, posts and any other communications. But don’t worry, I just went to the top of the POI list! Keeping Watch- shu Joe Shuman, NZ8P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
On 2021-01-18 09:48:-0500, Grant Youngman wrote: >Anyone who has ever had a good chuckle or eye-roll over the "interesting QRM" >Wayne referred to, should know why. That QRM, more and more often, also >bleeds over into other places it doesn�t belong, like what should be >apolitical reflectors. It seems there is no longer anywhere we can get away >from someone or some group airing their grievances wherever they are at the >slightest provocation. > >Grant NQ5T ;-) A bit of dry (wry?) humor is always appreciated. ~R~ 72/73 de Rich NE1EE The Dusty Key On the banks of the Piscataqua __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
Grant, All of this topic drift into areas non-Elecraft, (and there is a massive amount of it), is a direct result of the moderation efforts Elecraft puts into this group. If the group owners, (Elecraft), wanted things tighter, they would moderate more tightly. If they don't have staff to moderate, then they should not worry when things get off topic, which for the most part they don't, or close the group. This style of moderation allows folks to push the limits for short periods of time, between moderation events, which is why we get posts about everything else. The longer the time period between moderation events, the further topics drift. This method of moderation almost guarantees topic drift. I would LOVE to see just Elecraft information here, and nothing else... But not my group, so I just delete most non-Elecraft posts. 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net On 1/18/21 6:48 AM, Grant Youngman wrote: I’m not at all surprised the FCC felt it necessary to make the statement they did. And it certainly wasn’t limited to amateur radio licensees. Anyone who has ever had a good chuckle or eye-roll over the “interesting QRM” Wayne referred to, should know why. That QRM, more and more often, also bleeds over into other places it doesn’t belong, like what should be apolitical reflectors. It seems there is no longer anywhere we can get away from someone or some group airing their grievances wherever they are at the slightest provocation. Grant NQ5T __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
I find this list way too political and mostly one sided. Could you please stop this and all political/religious discussions? Or do I have to say something against your religion/politics to stop the thread??? Thanks 73 de Jose Douglas KB1TCD > > From: Grant Youngman > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... > warning issued by FCC today > Date: January 18, 2021 at 9:48:34 AM EST > To: Elecraft Refl > > I’m not at all surprised the FCC felt it necessary to make the statement they > did. And it certainly wasn’t limited to amateur radio licensees. > > Anyone who has ever had a good chuckle or eye-roll over the “interesting QRM” > Wayne referred to, should know why. That QRM, more and more often, also > bleeds over into other places it doesn’t belong, like what should be > apolitical reflectors. It seems there is no longer anywhere we can get away > from someone or some group airing their grievances wherever they are at the > slightest provocation. > > Grant NQ5T > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kb1...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
I’m not at all surprised the FCC felt it necessary to make the statement they did. And it certainly wasn’t limited to amateur radio licensees. Anyone who has ever had a good chuckle or eye-roll over the “interesting QRM” Wayne referred to, should know why. That QRM, more and more often, also bleeds over into other places it doesn’t belong, like what should be apolitical reflectors. It seems there is no longer anywhere we can get away from someone or some group airing their grievances wherever they are at the slightest provocation. Grant NQ5T __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
While it sounds dumb when they make such a statement, it is kinda like when here in the US of A, one of the questions on our yearly income tax forms is: Was any of your yearly income obtained illegally (or words to that affect)? Now that you have been warned, they have a better handle on what is required to toss your (biblical term for a donkey here) in jail. I live in the DC area and as of yesterday, all receivers I own are on and listening. Gary, N7BRJ On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 08:57 wrote: > I too thought that this was a curious announcement, especially since it > hit the mainstream media. It seems more like a "hey, check out this way to > communicate." Those of us who are licensed already know this. The general > public doesn't even know we exist. The few in between already do what they > want. > > > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto: > elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Vic Rosenthal > Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 4:12 AM > To: Mike Morrow > Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... > warning issued by FCC today > > My initial thought about being told not use my radio to commit a crime > was surprise that the FBI wasn’t also sending me an email telling me not to > rob banks. > I mean, isn’t it sort of obvious that crime is bad? > > Victor > > > On 18 Jan 2021, at 2:12, Mike Morrow wrote: > > > > So...the FCC *specifically* cites only amateur and personal radio > services as illegal for use in crime. > > > > I wonder how long the list is of radio services that ARE FCC APPROVED > for use in crime? > > > > Silly nonsense this all is. It does not bring credit to anyone calling > attention to this total non-problem. > > > > Mike / KK5F > > > > -Original Message----- > >> From: K4HYJ via Elecraft > >> Sent: Jan 17, 2021 4:20 PM > >> To: 'Wes' , elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... > warning issued by FCC today > >> > >> I feel safer now!! > >> > >> K4HYJ > >> > >> -----Original Message- > >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > >> On Behalf Of Wes > >> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 5:13 PM > >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... > >> warning issued by FCC today > >> > >> Well I'm glad that CNN cleared that up and I'm so relieved to know > >> that Amazon, Apple and Google are protecting me from unmoderated speech. > >> > >> N7WS > >> > >>> On 1/17/2021 2:07 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > >>> The FCC just posted this: > >>> > >>> > >>> https://www.fcc.gov/document/amateur-personal-radio-users-reminded-n > >>> ot > >>> -use-radios-crimes > >>> > >>> I guess this isn't surprising, considering current events. But in > >>> case > >> their motivation wasn't clear, see this interpretation: > >>> > >>> > >>> https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/tech/fcc-radio-extremist-social-media > >>> -a > >>> ttack/index.html > >>> > >>> Chances are VHF+ bands are the more likely vehicle for this form of > >> self-expression. It might get lost in the already "interesting" QRM > >> on 75 meters. > >>> > >>> 73, > >>> Wayne > >>> N6KR > >>> > >> > >> __ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this > >> email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > >> h...@optilink.us > >> > >> __ > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > > k2vco@gmail.com >
Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
I too thought that this was a curious announcement, especially since it hit the mainstream media. It seems more like a "hey, check out this way to communicate." Those of us who are licensed already know this. The general public doesn't even know we exist. The few in between already do what they want. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Vic Rosenthal Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 4:12 AM To: Mike Morrow Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today My initial thought about being told not use my radio to commit a crime was surprise that the FBI wasn’t also sending me an email telling me not to rob banks. I mean, isn’t it sort of obvious that crime is bad? Victor > On 18 Jan 2021, at 2:12, Mike Morrow wrote: > > So...the FCC *specifically* cites only amateur and personal radio services > as illegal for use in crime. > > I wonder how long the list is of radio services that ARE FCC APPROVED for use > in crime? > > Silly nonsense this all is. It does not bring credit to anyone calling > attention to this total non-problem. > > Mike / KK5F > > -Original Message- >> From: K4HYJ via Elecraft >> Sent: Jan 17, 2021 4:20 PM >> To: 'Wes' , elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... >> warning issued by FCC today >> >> I feel safer now!! >> >> K4HYJ >> >> -Original Message- >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >> On Behalf Of Wes >> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 5:13 PM >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... >> warning issued by FCC today >> >> Well I'm glad that CNN cleared that up and I'm so relieved to know >> that Amazon, Apple and Google are protecting me from unmoderated speech. >> >> N7WS >> >>> On 1/17/2021 2:07 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >>> The FCC just posted this: >>> >>> >>> https://www.fcc.gov/document/amateur-personal-radio-users-reminded-n >>> ot >>> -use-radios-crimes >>> >>> I guess this isn't surprising, considering current events. But in >>> case >> their motivation wasn't clear, see this interpretation: >>> >>> >>> https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/tech/fcc-radio-extremist-social-media >>> -a >>> ttack/index.html >>> >>> Chances are VHF+ bands are the more likely vehicle for this form of >> self-expression. It might get lost in the already "interesting" QRM >> on 75 meters. >>> >>> 73, >>> Wayne >>> N6KR >>> >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this >> email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to >> h...@optilink.us >> >> __ > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > k2vco@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to l...@ka7ftp.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
I see it somewhat differently and I don't see it aimed at me. I see a benefit of FBI/FCC publicly citing the law as a good way to inform the general public that laws exist and using radios in the furtherance of a crime (ham or otherwise) is already illegal, and such crimes will be prosecuted. My hope is that this will help quell any cry that "something must be done" in the way of more laws, regulation and restrictions. On Monday, January 18, 2021, 4:46:56 AM MST, Ken wrote: Well said, Vic. Amen! Ken, NU4I Sent from my iPod > On Jan 18, 2021, at 06:13, Vic Rosenthal wrote: > > My initial thought about being told not use my radio to commit a crime was > surprise that the FBI wasn’t also sending me an email telling me not to rob > banks. > I mean, isn’t it sort of obvious that crime is bad? > > Victor > >> On 18 Jan 2021, at 2:12, Mike Morrow wrote: >> >> So...the FCC *specifically* cites only amateur and personal radio services >> as illegal for use in crime. >> >> I wonder how long the list is of radio services that ARE FCC APPROVED for >> use in crime? >> >> Silly nonsense this all is. It does not bring credit to anyone calling >> attention to this total non-problem. >> >> Mike / KK5F >> >> -Original Message- >>> From: K4HYJ via Elecraft >>> Sent: Jan 17, 2021 4:20 PM >>> To: 'Wes' , elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... >>> warning issued by FCC today >>> >>> I feel safer now!! >>> >>> K4HYJ >>> >>> -----Original Message- >>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On >>> Behalf Of Wes >>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 5:13 PM >>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... >>> warning issued by FCC today >>> >>> Well I'm glad that CNN cleared that up and I'm so relieved to know that >>> Amazon, Apple and Google are protecting me from unmoderated speech. >>> >>> N7WS >>> >>>>> On 1/17/2021 2:07 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >>>>> The FCC just posted this: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://www.fcc.gov/document/amateur-personal-radio-users-reminded-not >>>>> -use-radios-crimes >>>>> >>>>> I guess this isn't surprising, considering current events. But in case >>> their motivation wasn't clear, see this interpretation: >>>> >>>> >>>> https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/tech/fcc-radio-extremist-social-media-a >>>> ttack/index.html >>>> >>>> Chances are VHF+ bands are the more likely vehicle for this form of >>> self-expression. It might get lost in the already "interesting" QRM on 75 >>> meters. >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> Wayne >>>> N6KR >>>> >>> >>> __ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message >>> delivered to h...@optilink.us >>> >>> __ >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k2vco@gmail.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@cox.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to louand...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
Well said, Vic. Amen! Ken, NU4I Sent from my iPod > On Jan 18, 2021, at 06:13, Vic Rosenthal wrote: > > My initial thought about being told not use my radio to commit a crime was > surprise that the FBI wasn’t also sending me an email telling me not to rob > banks. > I mean, isn’t it sort of obvious that crime is bad? > > Victor > >> On 18 Jan 2021, at 2:12, Mike Morrow wrote: >> >> So...the FCC *specifically* cites only amateur and personal radio services >> as illegal for use in crime. >> >> I wonder how long the list is of radio services that ARE FCC APPROVED for >> use in crime? >> >> Silly nonsense this all is. It does not bring credit to anyone calling >> attention to this total non-problem. >> >> Mike / KK5F >> >> -Original Message- >>> From: K4HYJ via Elecraft >>> Sent: Jan 17, 2021 4:20 PM >>> To: 'Wes' , elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... >>> warning issued by FCC today >>> >>> I feel safer now!! >>> >>> K4HYJ >>> >>> -----Original Message- >>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On >>> Behalf Of Wes >>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 5:13 PM >>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... >>> warning issued by FCC today >>> >>> Well I'm glad that CNN cleared that up and I'm so relieved to know that >>> Amazon, Apple and Google are protecting me from unmoderated speech. >>> >>> N7WS >>> >>>>> On 1/17/2021 2:07 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >>>>> The FCC just posted this: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://www.fcc.gov/document/amateur-personal-radio-users-reminded-not >>>>> -use-radios-crimes >>>>> >>>>> I guess this isn't surprising, considering current events. But in case >>> their motivation wasn't clear, see this interpretation: >>>> >>>> >>>> https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/tech/fcc-radio-extremist-social-media-a >>>> ttack/index.html >>>> >>>> Chances are VHF+ bands are the more likely vehicle for this form of >>> self-expression. It might get lost in the already "interesting" QRM on 75 >>> meters. >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> Wayne >>>> N6KR >>>> >>> >>> __ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message >>> delivered to h...@optilink.us >>> >>> __ >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k2vco@gmail.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@cox.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
My initial thought about being told not use my radio to commit a crime was surprise that the FBI wasn’t also sending me an email telling me not to rob banks. I mean, isn’t it sort of obvious that crime is bad? Victor > On 18 Jan 2021, at 2:12, Mike Morrow wrote: > > So...the FCC *specifically* cites only amateur and personal radio services > as illegal for use in crime. > > I wonder how long the list is of radio services that ARE FCC APPROVED for use > in crime? > > Silly nonsense this all is. It does not bring credit to anyone calling > attention to this total non-problem. > > Mike / KK5F > > -Original Message- >> From: K4HYJ via Elecraft >> Sent: Jan 17, 2021 4:20 PM >> To: 'Wes' , elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... >> warning issued by FCC today >> >> I feel safer now!! >> >> K4HYJ >> >> -Original Message- >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On >> Behalf Of Wes >> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 5:13 PM >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... >> warning issued by FCC today >> >> Well I'm glad that CNN cleared that up and I'm so relieved to know that >> Amazon, Apple and Google are protecting me from unmoderated speech. >> >> N7WS >> >>> On 1/17/2021 2:07 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >>> The FCC just posted this: >>> >>> >>> https://www.fcc.gov/document/amateur-personal-radio-users-reminded-not >>> -use-radios-crimes >>> >>> I guess this isn't surprising, considering current events. But in case >> their motivation wasn't clear, see this interpretation: >>> >>> >>> https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/tech/fcc-radio-extremist-social-media-a >>> ttack/index.html >>> >>> Chances are VHF+ bands are the more likely vehicle for this form of >> self-expression. It might get lost in the already "interesting" QRM on 75 >> meters. >>> >>> 73, >>> Wayne >>> N6KR >>> >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message >> delivered to h...@optilink.us >> >> __ > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k2vco@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ..., warning issued by FCC today
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[Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ..., warning issued by FCC today
Also be advised that the ARRL Volunteer Program has been asked by the
FCC to monitor ham frequencies and report "interesting" conversations.
73
Bob, K4TAX
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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021 13:07:41 -0800
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Subject: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ...
warning issued by FCC today
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The FCC just posted this:
https://www.fcc.gov/document/amateur-personal-radio-users-reminded-not-use-radios-crimes
I guess this isn't surprising, considering current events. But in case their
motivation wasn't clear, see this interpretation:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/tech/fcc-radio-extremist-social-media-attack/index.html
Chances are VHF+ bands are the more likely vehicle for this form of self-expression. It
might get lost in the already "interesting" QRM on 75 meters.
73,
Wayne
N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
Yeah. It's out there in the public eye already, whether legit or not. To many people, any civilian with a HT is a ham. They don't necessarily make distinctions between Amateur Radio, CB, GMRS, FRS etc. Best to cite and enforce existing laws than to create more laws and restrictions that will only affect law abiding citizens. On Sunday, January 17, 2021, 5:23:53 PM MST, Paul Horenstein K2PH via Elecraft wrote: There was an article on the front page of today's Washington Post that described people going to DC being assisted with their communications by "Ham Radio Operators". There was also much footage of the incident at the Capitol of people with HTs hangin off of their belts.. Been a lot of Baofengs advertised on "prepper" sites past few years too. -Original Message- From: Mike Morrow To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sun, Jan 17, 2021 7:12 pm Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today So...the FCC *specifically* cites only amateur and personal radio services as illegal for use in crime. I wonder how long the list is of radio services that ARE FCC APPROVED for use in crime? Silly nonsense this all is. It does not bring credit to anyone calling attention to this total non-problem. Mike / KK5F -Original Message- >From: K4HYJ via Elecraft >Sent: Jan 17, 2021 4:20 PM >To: 'Wes' , elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... >warning issued by FCC today > >I feel safer now!! > >K4HYJ > >-Original Message- >From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On >Behalf Of Wes >Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 5:13 PM >To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... >warning issued by FCC today > >Well I'm glad that CNN cleared that up and I'm so relieved to know that >Amazon, Apple and Google are protecting me from unmoderated speech. > >N7WS > >On 1/17/2021 2:07 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> The FCC just posted this: >> >> >> https://www.fcc.gov/document/amateur-personal-radio-users-reminded-not >> -use-radios-crimes >> >> I guess this isn't surprising, considering current events. But in case >their motivation wasn't clear, see this interpretation: >> >> >> https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/tech/fcc-radio-extremist-social-media-a >> ttack/index.html >> >> Chances are VHF+ bands are the more likely vehicle for this form of >self-expression. It might get lost in the already "interesting" QRM on 75 >meters. >> >> 73, >> Wayne >> N6KR >> > >__ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message >delivered to h...@optilink.us > >__ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to p...@aol.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to louand...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
There was an article on the front page of today's Washington Post that described people going to DC being assisted with their communications by "Ham Radio Operators". There was also much footage of the incident at the Capitol of people with HTs hangin off of their belts.. Been a lot of Baofengs advertised on "prepper" sites past few years too. -Original Message- From: Mike Morrow To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sun, Jan 17, 2021 7:12 pm Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today So...the FCC *specifically* cites only amateur and personal radio services as illegal for use in crime. I wonder how long the list is of radio services that ARE FCC APPROVED for use in crime? Silly nonsense this all is. It does not bring credit to anyone calling attention to this total non-problem. Mike / KK5F -Original Message- >From: K4HYJ via Elecraft >Sent: Jan 17, 2021 4:20 PM >To: 'Wes' , elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... >warning issued by FCC today > >I feel safer now!! > >K4HYJ > >-Original Message- >From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On >Behalf Of Wes >Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 5:13 PM >To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... >warning issued by FCC today > >Well I'm glad that CNN cleared that up and I'm so relieved to know that >Amazon, Apple and Google are protecting me from unmoderated speech. > >N7WS > >On 1/17/2021 2:07 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> The FCC just posted this: >> >> >> https://www.fcc.gov/document/amateur-personal-radio-users-reminded-not >> -use-radios-crimes >> >> I guess this isn't surprising, considering current events. But in case >their motivation wasn't clear, see this interpretation: >> >> >> https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/tech/fcc-radio-extremist-social-media-a >> ttack/index.html >> >> Chances are VHF+ bands are the more likely vehicle for this form of >self-expression. It might get lost in the already "interesting" QRM on 75 >meters. >> >> 73, >> Wayne >> N6KR >> > >__ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message >delivered to h...@optilink.us > >__ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to p...@aol.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
So...the FCC *specifically* cites only amateur and personal radio services as illegal for use in crime. I wonder how long the list is of radio services that ARE FCC APPROVED for use in crime? Silly nonsense this all is. It does not bring credit to anyone calling attention to this total non-problem. Mike / KK5F -Original Message- >From: K4HYJ via Elecraft >Sent: Jan 17, 2021 4:20 PM >To: 'Wes' , elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning >issued by FCC today > >I feel safer now!! > >K4HYJ > >-Original Message- >From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On >Behalf Of Wes >Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 5:13 PM >To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... >warning issued by FCC today > >Well I'm glad that CNN cleared that up and I'm so relieved to know that >Amazon, Apple and Google are protecting me from unmoderated speech. > >N7WS > >On 1/17/2021 2:07 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> The FCC just posted this: >> >> >> https://www.fcc.gov/document/amateur-personal-radio-users-reminded-not >> -use-radios-crimes >> >> I guess this isn't surprising, considering current events. But in case >their motivation wasn't clear, see this interpretation: >> >> >> https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/tech/fcc-radio-extremist-social-media-a >> ttack/index.html >> >> Chances are VHF+ bands are the more likely vehicle for this form of >self-expression. It might get lost in the already "interesting" QRM on 75 >meters. >> >> 73, >> Wayne >> N6KR >> > >__ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message >delivered to h...@optilink.us > >__ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
I feel safer now!! K4HYJ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Wes Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 5:13 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today Well I'm glad that CNN cleared that up and I'm so relieved to know that Amazon, Apple and Google are protecting me from unmoderated speech. N7WS On 1/17/2021 2:07 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > The FCC just posted this: > > > https://www.fcc.gov/document/amateur-personal-radio-users-reminded-not > -use-radios-crimes > > I guess this isn't surprising, considering current events. But in case their motivation wasn't clear, see this interpretation: > > > https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/tech/fcc-radio-extremist-social-media-a > ttack/index.html > > Chances are VHF+ bands are the more likely vehicle for this form of self-expression. It might get lost in the already "interesting" QRM on 75 meters. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to h...@optilink.us __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
Well I'm glad that CNN cleared that up and I'm so relieved to know that Amazon, Apple and Google are protecting me from unmoderated speech. N7WS On 1/17/2021 2:07 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: The FCC just posted this: https://www.fcc.gov/document/amateur-personal-radio-users-reminded-not-use-radios-crimes I guess this isn't surprising, considering current events. But in case their motivation wasn't clear, see this interpretation: https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/tech/fcc-radio-extremist-social-media-attack/index.html Chances are VHF+ bands are the more likely vehicle for this form of self-expression. It might get lost in the already "interesting" QRM on 75 meters. 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
If you are an ARRL member, you also received an emailed statement from them today, reiterating their position on the appropriate uses of amateur radio. It isn't surprising that those involved in the January 6 insurrection and attempted coup used radio comms of SOME kind to organize and coordinate activities. I hope none involved were hams. If any were, I hope that, at the very least, their licenses are permanently revoked. Regardless of your political leanings, there is no room for this kind of behavior in the amateur radio community. 73 de, Ian, NV4C On Sun, Jan 17, 2021, 4:09 PM Wayne Burdick wrote: > The FCC just posted this: > > > https://www.fcc.gov/document/amateur-personal-radio-users-reminded-not-use-radios-crimes > > I guess this isn't surprising, considering current events. But in case > their motivation wasn't clear, see this interpretation: > > > https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/tech/fcc-radio-extremist-social-media-attack/index.html > > Chances are VHF+ bands are the more likely vehicle for this form of > self-expression. It might get lost in the already "interesting" QRM on 75 > meters. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nv4c@gmail.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
In case I’m misinterpreted, here: I’m just the messenger. This is a highly unusual FCC action that I figured would be of general interest. Someone pointed out privately that it could be construed as political — that was definitely not my intent. Misuse of the airwaves affects us all. Apologies to anyone who feels otherwise. 73, Wayne N6KR elecraft.com > On Jan 17, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > The FCC just posted this: > > > https://www.fcc.gov/document/amateur-personal-radio-users-reminded-not-use-radios-crimes __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Waaay OT: A new kind of QRM to be aware of ... warning issued by FCC today
The FCC just posted this: https://www.fcc.gov/document/amateur-personal-radio-users-reminded-not-use-radios-crimes I guess this isn't surprising, considering current events. But in case their motivation wasn't clear, see this interpretation: https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/tech/fcc-radio-extremist-social-media-attack/index.html Chances are VHF+ bands are the more likely vehicle for this form of self-expression. It might get lost in the already "interesting" QRM on 75 meters. 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
