Re: [Elecraft] help wiring a mic?
i am only three days back catching up . this thread was closed.sri __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] help wiring a mic?
but for 18$,,, including the suspension it looks scool. i bought a similiar if not identical... from banggood it plugs right into the mic jack on the back of the k3 kx3 so much for 'studio' Me thinks it is for computer video gamers and bloggers. and it works just like every other electret cut off the bottom response... bill At 12:51 AM 7/6/2018, Jim Brown wrote: On 7/5/2018 3:27 PM, Schumacher, Paul wrote: I have a Neewer NW 800 mic that I want to use with a KX3. This mic is intended for studio and recording work. It is a very poor choice for ham radio. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@arrl.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] help wiring a mic?
I use my Heil HM12 wired for my Kenwood and it works fine Bill W3WGG > On July 7, 2018 at 11:07 AM Nr4c wrote: > > > Has anyone here provided any > information on how to wire XXX mic to a KX3? > > We’ve all read various > dissertations on how the mic is good/bad or just wrong for the use. > > I > bought a similar mic from eBay and bought a cable from Radio Shack and a > Behringer Phantom Power supply(cost more than the mic!). Had a Heil cable to > use from Behringer unit to K3. Worked pretty well. Now use a PR77d on the K3S > (I know, overkill but I like the look of it). > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ...nr4c. bill > > > > On Jul 7, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: > > > > > > >> On Jul 7, 2018, at 4:42 AM, Michael Walker wrote: > >> > >> BTW, > the KOSS SB40's are really bad. All bottom end and little > >> highs. Maybe > the 2 I have are defective. > > > > The Koss SB40 has a dynamic mic. I’m not > surprised that a $30 headset with a dynamic mic has problems. It looks like a > clone of the Yamaha CM500, but with a worse mic. My Yamaha CM500 says “KOSS” > on the mic plug. > > > > The Koss SB45 has an electret mic and gets good > reviews. It is $25. > > > > wunder > > K6WRU > > Walter Underwood > > CM87wj > > > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > > > > > __ > > Elecraft > mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: > mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: > http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com > > > __ > Elecraft > mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: > http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to > 1lasports...@cox.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] help wiring a mic?
Hope this isn’t too far off the original topic. Interesting. I only noticed “KOSS” when I was editing photos for a blog post. Mine must be a different production run. Here is the photo: https://wunderwood.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/kx3-cm500-adaptor.jpg?w=600&h=400&zoom=2 That is in this blog post: https://observer.wunderwood.org/2015/08/16/yamaha-cm500-headset-with-ptt-on-elecraft-kx3/ wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jul 7, 2018, at 9:43 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > > wunder, > > I have 2 CM500 headsets, and neither of them have "KOSS" on the mic plug. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 7/7/2018 11:31 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: > My Yamaha CM500 says “KOSS” on the mic plug. >> The Koss SB45 has an electret mic and gets good reviews. It is $25. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] help wiring a mic?
wunder, I have 2 CM500 headsets, and neither of them have "KOSS" on the mic plug. 73, Don W3FPR On 7/7/2018 11:31 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: My Yamaha CM500 says “KOSS” on the mic plug. The Koss SB45 has an electret mic and gets good reviews. It is $25. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] help wiring a mic?
Has anyone here provided any information on how to wire XXX mic to a KX3? We’ve all read various dissertations on how the mic is good/bad or just wrong for the use. I bought a similar mic from eBay and bought a cable from Radio Shack and a Behringer Phantom Power supply(cost more than the mic!). Had a Heil cable to use from Behringer unit to K3. Worked pretty well. Now use a PR77d on the K3S (I know, overkill but I like the look of it). Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jul 7, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: > > >> On Jul 7, 2018, at 4:42 AM, Michael Walker wrote: >> >> BTW, the KOSS SB40's are really bad. All bottom end and little >> highs. Maybe the 2 I have are defective. > > The Koss SB40 has a dynamic mic. I’m not surprised that a $30 headset with a > dynamic mic has problems. It looks like a clone of the Yamaha CM500, but with > a worse mic. My Yamaha CM500 says “KOSS” on the mic plug. > > The Koss SB45 has an electret mic and gets good reviews. It is $25. > > wunder > K6WRU > Walter Underwood > CM87wj > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] help wiring a mic?
> On Jul 7, 2018, at 4:42 AM, Michael Walker wrote: > > BTW, the KOSS SB40's are really bad. All bottom end and little > highs. Maybe the 2 I have are defective. The Koss SB40 has a dynamic mic. I’m not surprised that a $30 headset with a dynamic mic has problems. It looks like a clone of the Yamaha CM500, but with a worse mic. My Yamaha CM500 says “KOSS” on the mic plug. The Koss SB45 has an electret mic and gets good reviews. It is $25. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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You guys are all brutal! :) This is a hobby that we try things and see how they work and if it doesn't, then you learned something. Ham Radio is an experimental hobby or did we all forget that. All you audio engineers didn't get where you are today without going through the school of hard knocks.Why not help him out so he can learn something. BTW, the KOSS SB40's are really bad. All bottom end and little highs. Maybe the 2 I have are defective. I have one of these mics and I use it for several uses, but I have also had it on my Flex and it sounds darn good and for the money while running SmartSDR remote and using PC Audio. I would recommend it for someone on a budget. I guess I'll have to wire it up for my KX2 and see how it works. There might not be enough BIAS voltage as other had suggested. Mike va3mw __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] help wiring a mic?
Hi Ron, Fear not, my spelling is quite different to US English. Never had a problem. On another subject. KH1 was #331 mixed for me. I started from zero in mid 2000 after a spell of about 10 years QRT. The first 257 were with the K2. All have been worked K2/K3 and for the first three years only made about 500 QSO QRP to a low wire and less entities than is possible over a major contest weekend. Now rather more tooled up! Regards, Mike VP8NO On 06/07/2018 20:48, n3...@coastside.net wrote: Kind of make you wonder. Just how many questions don’t get asked. I know I’ve been on this reflector for a while now and have yet to dare ask anyone anything. If you use the wrong punctuation or mis-spell something! You could get lynched or tarred and feathered and run out of town. We won’t even broach the subject of differing opinions. Ron Genovesi N3ETA Sent from my iPhone On Jul 6, 2018, at 8:00 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: I looked up the mic on Amazon, and it is a $20 studio look-alike. I’m sure it has a twenty-five cent electret element under all that stuff, but cheap electret mics are very good. So it probably is a decent mic and it isn’t too expensive. If you like the look of it and can power it, why not? The detailed info on Amazon says it works with 5 V bias. One reviewer says the response rolls off under 150 Hz, which would be good for communications use. https://www.amazon.com/Neewer-Professional-Broadcasting-Recording-Microphone/dp/B00XBQ8UGG/ wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) On Jul 6, 2018, at 5:16 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: Operator mike technique is very important with regard to good to great audio. I've found that my $20 Behringer 8500 sounds as good as my $100 Shure SM 58. Likewise my $200 Heil PR 781 needs for one to pay special attention to mike-to-mouth distance in order to control proximity effect. Price and type do not assure one of "great audio". OTOH - I find most hand mikes supplied with radios sound "plastic" with various resonances and rattles and squeaks, noticeable on the air. Bob, K4TAX Sent from my iPhone On Jul 6, 2018, at 6:48 AM, Charlie T wrote: This mic is intended for studio and recording work. It is a very poor choice for ham radio. 73, Jim K9YC I feel Jim's choice of the term "poor" is correct, but in a monetary sense. Yes, you may be able to get the mike to communications quality with racks of audio processing equipment etc., but you will probably spend more for all that when you add the cost of the mike, than radio costs by itself. Seem a tad wasteful to me when the radio already has a good EQ and a mike costing a fraction of the fancy "studio" mike will sound the same on the other end of the QSO. I don't under the fascination (or logic?) of using a wide response and expensive microphone just to narrow it down to 300 to 2800 Hz, unless you're H3LL bent on putting out a 10 kHz wide VOA grade signal that is frankly, illegal anyway. Yeah, yeah I know, you're voice is "different" and you need all that stuff to make it sound "right". If that's what you want, then by all means go for it. It's the same logic as using your (insert $200k car) to make daily commuter runs mostly stuck in traffic. 73, Charlie k3ICH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n3...@coastside.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mike.har...@horizon.co.fk __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elec
Re: [Elecraft] help wiring a mic?
Kind of make you wonder. Just how many questions don’t get asked. I know I’ve been on this reflector for a while now and have yet to dare ask anyone anything. If you use the wrong punctuation or mis-spell something! You could get lynched or tarred and feathered and run out of town. We won’t even broach the subject of differing opinions. Ron Genovesi N3ETA Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 6, 2018, at 8:00 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: > > I looked up the mic on Amazon, and it is a $20 studio look-alike. I’m sure it > has a twenty-five cent electret element under all that stuff, but cheap > electret mics are very good. > > So it probably is a decent mic and it isn’t too expensive. If you like the > look of it and can power it, why not? The detailed info on Amazon says it > works with 5 V bias. One reviewer says the response rolls off under 150 Hz, > which would be good for communications use. > > https://www.amazon.com/Neewer-Professional-Broadcasting-Recording-Microphone/dp/B00XBQ8UGG/ > > wunder > K6WRU > Walter Underwood > CM87wj > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > >> On Jul 6, 2018, at 5:16 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: >> >> Operator mike technique is very important with regard to good to great >> audio. >> >> I've found that my $20 Behringer 8500 sounds as good as my $100 Shure SM >> 58. Likewise my $200 Heil PR 781 needs for one to pay special attention to >> mike-to-mouth distance in order to control proximity effect. >> >> Price and type do not assure one of "great audio". OTOH - I find most hand >> mikes supplied with radios sound "plastic" with various resonances and >> rattles and squeaks, noticeable on the air. >> >> Bob, K4TAX >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 6, 2018, at 6:48 AM, Charlie T wrote: >> This mic is intended for studio and recording work. It is a very poor choice for ham radio. 73, Jim K9YC >>> >>> >>> I feel Jim's choice of the term "poor" is correct, but in a monetary sense. >>> >>> Yes, you may be able to get the mike to communications quality with racks of >>> audio processing equipment etc., >>> but you will probably spend more for all that when you add the cost of the >>> mike, than radio costs by itself. >>> >>> Seem a tad wasteful to me when the radio already has a good EQ and a mike >>> costing a fraction of the fancy "studio" mike will sound the same on the >>> other end of the QSO. >>> >>> I don't under the fascination (or logic?) of using a wide response and >>> expensive microphone just to narrow it down to 300 to 2800 Hz, unless you're >>> H3LL bent on putting out a 10 kHz wide VOA grade signal that is frankly, >>> illegal anyway. >>> >>> Yeah, yeah I know, you're voice is "different" and you need all that stuff >>> to make it sound "right". >>> If that's what you want, then by all means go for it. >>> It's the same logic as using your (insert $200k car) to make daily commuter >>> runs mostly stuck in traffic. >>> >>> 73, Charlie k3ICH >>> >>> >>> >>> __ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net >>> >> >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n3...@coastside.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] help wiring a mic?
Good answer. A friend once petitioned the FCC to disallow AM. The answer he got from the FCC was that Amateur Radio was an experimental medium and as such, disallowing emission types was counterintuitive. The word experimental tends to question some of the hard and fast rules that come up from time to time.. Chuck Amateur Radio, KE9UW From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] on behalf of Fred Jensen [k6...@foothill.net] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2018 4:10 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] help wiring a mic? It depends on the emission type. From 47CFR97.307: "(a) No amateur station transmission shall occupy more bandwidth than necessary for the information rate and emission type being transmitted, in accordance with good amateur practice." At 97.307, there follow numerous specific limits on spurious emissions, limits on various forms of angle modulation, and an [in]famous symbol rate limit of 300 on data emissions. Thus: If you're transmitting voice using AM, an occupied bandwidth of between 5 and 6 KHz would be compliant [nominal 0-2.5 KHz audio BW]. For SSB, it would be roughly 2.5-3.0 KHz. If you're transmitting CW, the occupied bandwidth would need to be something around 0.1 KHz. A data transmission could occupy any BW so long as its symbol rate remains at or below 300. The rules are a little ambiguous as a result of the phrase, "for the information rate and emission type being transmitted". If ESSB is considered to be an independent emission type, then it is compliant ... it fills the BW it was intended to. If it is considered to be a form of standard, communications-quality SSB, then it may not totally compliant. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 7/6/2018 9:16 AM, hawley, charles j jr wrote: > What is the "legal" bandwidth allowed on amateur radio? > > Chuck > KE9UW > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to c-haw...@illinois.edu __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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True, Wayne This list has been excessively active over the very long weekend. Also, hostility on a number of discussions. Maybe too much holiday cheer? Sent from my iPad > On Jul 6, 2018, at 4:31 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > Overall this is one of the most civilized ham forums out there, or so we’ve > been told hundreds of times. > > But it’s easy for many of us to occasionally get defensive, testy, or even > indignant when our long-held beliefs are challenged. Myself included. It > doesn’t mean we're not sincerely trying to help. > > The only way people on *any* list can get along is to be forgiving. We’ve all > said things we wished we could take back. We feel even worse when things > escalate for reasons having nothing to do with the original thread. > > My advice: > > If you’re turning red and slapping the keys hard when you respond to > something--on this list, or anywhere else--wait a few minutes. Take a breath. > > Help us keep things fun and interesting here. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w...@w2xj.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] help wiring a mic?
Can we please not start the bandwidth discussion (er, wars?), yet again? Perhaps it’s time to help the poor fellow wire his mic? Which is all he asked. Maybe we can’t do that. Fine. It’ll probably work out of the box. And even if it doesn’t, it’s $20 … for goodness sake. Cheaper than an Elecraft hand mic (which are perfectly good microphones, actually, and have no “plastic" sound to them that I’ve ever discerned). Grant NQ5T K3 #2091, KX3 #8342 > > If you're transmitting voice using AM, an occupied bandwidth of between 5 and > 6 KHz would be compliant [nominal 0-2.5 KHz audio BW]. For SSB, it would be > roughly 2.5-3.0 KHz. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] help wiring a mic?
It depends on the emission type. From 47CFR97.307: "(a) No amateur station transmission shall occupy more bandwidth than necessary for the information rate and emission type being transmitted, in accordance with good amateur practice." At 97.307, there follow numerous specific limits on spurious emissions, limits on various forms of angle modulation, and an [in]famous symbol rate limit of 300 on data emissions. Thus: If you're transmitting voice using AM, an occupied bandwidth of between 5 and 6 KHz would be compliant [nominal 0-2.5 KHz audio BW]. For SSB, it would be roughly 2.5-3.0 KHz. If you're transmitting CW, the occupied bandwidth would need to be something around 0.1 KHz. A data transmission could occupy any BW so long as its symbol rate remains at or below 300. The rules are a little ambiguous as a result of the phrase, "for the information rate and emission type being transmitted". If ESSB is considered to be an independent emission type, then it is compliant ... it fills the BW it was intended to. If it is considered to be a form of standard, communications-quality SSB, then it may not totally compliant. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 7/6/2018 9:16 AM, hawley, charles j jr wrote: What is the "legal" bandwidth allowed on amateur radio? Chuck KE9UW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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On 7/6/2018 12:53 PM, Bill wrote: Al, you are so right. I have been victimized by some of these folks in the past. I asked a question and was flamed on and off list. My response was NOT a flame. Saving someone $400 dollars is FRIENDLY ADVICE, not criticism. I took the trouble to search for a data sheet for the mic, found nothing that would even tell me what connector was used, what powering configuration it had, or how the mic was wired. Pro electret mics used a balanced form of powering called "phantom," and must work into a circuit that feeds + to both sides of a balanced output and negative to the shield. The electret mics used with unbalanced inputs get their bias in a very different way. The two systems are NOT compatible, and phantom power is built into preamps and mixers. W2IHY has built this into his 8-band equalizer. At $299, it's the lowest cost box I could find on his website that does it. AND -- if you have a K3, K3S, KX2, or KX3 there's a VERY good equalizer built in, so you're spending $299 plus shipping on the mic interface. Bottom line -- with these radios, you don't need anything that W2IHY sells. If you must use a pro (balanced) electret mic with ham gear, Radio Design Labs sells some relatively low cost mic preamps, but by the time you buy the preamp and the power supply(ies) you've spent some bucks there too. http://www.rdlnet.com/search.php?searchquery=mic+preamp But we don't know which powering interface the mic uses -- nothing I've found on the internet tells me. IF there is access to the capsule itself, it can be wired directly to the KX3 input. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Overall this is one of the most civilized ham forums out there, or so we’ve been told hundreds of times. But it’s easy for many of us to occasionally get defensive, testy, or even indignant when our long-held beliefs are challenged. Myself included. It doesn’t mean we're not sincerely trying to help. The only way people on *any* list can get along is to be forgiving. We’ve all said things we wished we could take back. We feel even worse when things escalate for reasons having nothing to do with the original thread. My advice: If you’re turning red and slapping the keys hard when you respond to something--on this list, or anywhere else--wait a few minutes. Take a breath. Help us keep things fun and interesting here. 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I thought that too. Lectures on everything but the tech. Chuck KE9UW c-haw...@illinois.edu Sent from my iPad > On Jul 6, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Bill wrote: > > Al, you are so right. I have been victimized by some of these folks in the > past. I asked a question and was flamed on and off list. Not a friendly bunch! > > Go to this site, and just a few lines down is your answer (I hope): > > http://www.qsl.net/g4wpw/date.html > > Good luck and best wishes with your new mic. I hope you enjoy it to its > fullest. > > Bill W2BLC K-Line > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to c-haw...@illinois.edu __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Al, you are so right. I have been victimized by some of these folks in the past. I asked a question and was flamed on and off list. Not a friendly bunch! Go to this site, and just a few lines down is your answer (I hope): http://www.qsl.net/g4wpw/date.html Good luck and best wishes with your new mic. I hope you enjoy it to its fullest. Bill W2BLC K-Line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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The poor guy who started this thread just wanted to know how to wire a mic. It quickly became a discussion of whether he should even use that mic. I don't believe we have that right. The question is about an XLR connector. We should either answer his question or lay out. Al W6LX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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On 7/6/2018 2:10 AM, Sean Hayden wrote: This is simply untrue Jim. Many hams use xlr connected microphones with phantom power. A w2ihy iBox and a cheap behringer mixer will quickly disprove your assertion. I know of many hams that use such setups for broadcast AM transmitters moved to amateur radio frequencies. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Of course you can throw money at the problem by buying these products. A fool and his money are easily separated. :) Very good sounding mics built into gaming headsets like the Yamaha CM500 and a similar Koss model plug straight into the K3 and KX3 and sound great. I looked up this mic and tried to find specs. There's nothing there -- it's all silly putty. Every place I looked said something different. :) There's no response graph, not even a description of what connector is used and how it is wired! Inside that mic is a cheap (maybe a buck) electret capsule. The shiny enclosure is simply designed to facilitate the separation process noted above. I'm retired from a career in pro audio, A Fellow of the Audio Engineering Society, and have a closet full of REAL pro mics that I use for recording music. The only one I'd consider using (and have used) for ham radio is an RE16, a variable-D dynamic with a good blast filter. I used it because, at the time, I didn't have anything better, because the variable-D construction eliminates the LF boost of proximity effect, and, because it's a dynamic, all I had to do was solder up a cable to a connector that mated with the rig. List members K4TAX and W4TV are also retired broadcast engineers, and I'm sure there are others. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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What is the "legal" bandwidth allowed on amateur radio? Chuck KE9UW From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] on behalf of Charlie T [pin...@erols.com] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2018 6:48 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] help wiring a mic? > This mic is intended for studio and recording work. It is a very poor > choice for ham radio. > > 73, Jim K9YC snip I don't under the fascination (or logic?) of using a wide response and expensive microphone just to narrow it down to 300 to 2800 Hz, unless you're H3LL bent on putting out a 10 kHz wide VOA grade signal that is frankly, illegal anyway. snip 73, Charlie k3ICH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to c-haw...@illinois.edu __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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>>> if you like the look of it and can power it, why not? <<< Walter. Thank you! For approaching the question with an " Open Mind "!!!Many, many years ago, over 2000 years since, someone who happens to be a whole smarter than I, once said. " Religion was made for Man, and not Man for Religion " end of quote! Maybe, we should remind ourselves that this is just an Hobby! HOBBY - An activity or interest, pursued for pleasure!Hence, lets adopt the ETHOS " Ham Radio was made for Man, and not Man for Ham Radio "Just my $0.02 worth. (((73))) Milverton / W9MMS. On Friday, July 6, 2018, 10:05:41 AM CDT, Walter Underwood wrote: I looked up the mic on Amazon, and it is a $20 studio look-alike. I’m sure it has a twenty-five cent electret element under all that stuff, but cheap electret mics are very good. So it probably is a decent mic and it isn’t too expensive. If you like the look of it and can power it, why not? The detailed info on Amazon says it works with 5 V bias. One reviewer says the response rolls off under 150 Hz, which would be good for communications use. https://www.amazon.com/Neewer-Professional-Broadcasting-Recording-Microphone/dp/B00XBQ8UGG/ wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jul 6, 2018, at 5:16 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: > > Operator mike technique is very important with regard to good to great audio. > > I've found that my $20 Behringer 8500 sounds as good as my $100 Shure SM 58. > Likewise my $200 Heil PR 781 needs for one to pay special attention to > mike-to-mouth distance in order to control proximity effect. > > Price and type do not assure one of "great audio". OTOH - I find most hand > mikes supplied with radios sound "plastic" with various resonances and > rattles and squeaks, noticeable on the air. > > Bob, K4TAX > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 6, 2018, at 6:48 AM, Charlie T wrote: > >>> This mic is intended for studio and recording work. It is a very poor >>> choice for ham radio. >>> >>> 73, Jim K9YC >> >> >> I feel Jim's choice of the term "poor" is correct, but in a monetary sense. >> >> Yes, you may be able to get the mike to communications quality with racks of >> audio processing equipment etc., >> but you will probably spend more for all that when you add the cost of the >> mike, than radio costs by itself. >> >> Seem a tad wasteful to me when the radio already has a good EQ and a mike >> costing a fraction of the fancy "studio" mike will sound the same on the >> other end of the QSO. >> >> I don't under the fascination (or logic?) of using a wide response and >> expensive microphone just to narrow it down to 300 to 2800 Hz, unless you're >> H3LL bent on putting out a 10 kHz wide VOA grade signal that is frankly, >> illegal anyway. >> >> Yeah, yeah I know, you're voice is "different" and you need all that stuff >> to make it sound "right". >> If that's what you want, then by all means go for it. >> It's the same logic as using your (insert $200k car) to make daily commuter >> runs mostly stuck in traffic. >> >> 73, Charlie k3ICH >> >> >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net >> > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tnny...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I looked up the mic on Amazon, and it is a $20 studio look-alike. I’m sure it has a twenty-five cent electret element under all that stuff, but cheap electret mics are very good. So it probably is a decent mic and it isn’t too expensive. If you like the look of it and can power it, why not? The detailed info on Amazon says it works with 5 V bias. One reviewer says the response rolls off under 150 Hz, which would be good for communications use. https://www.amazon.com/Neewer-Professional-Broadcasting-Recording-Microphone/dp/B00XBQ8UGG/ wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jul 6, 2018, at 5:16 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: > > Operator mike technique is very important with regard to good to great audio. > > I've found that my $20 Behringer 8500 sounds as good as my $100 Shure SM 58. > Likewise my $200 Heil PR 781 needs for one to pay special attention to > mike-to-mouth distance in order to control proximity effect. > > Price and type do not assure one of "great audio". OTOH - I find most hand > mikes supplied with radios sound "plastic" with various resonances and > rattles and squeaks, noticeable on the air. > > Bob, K4TAX > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 6, 2018, at 6:48 AM, Charlie T wrote: > >>> This mic is intended for studio and recording work. It is a very poor >>> choice for ham radio. >>> >>> 73, Jim K9YC >> >> >> I feel Jim's choice of the term "poor" is correct, but in a monetary sense. >> >> Yes, you may be able to get the mike to communications quality with racks of >> audio processing equipment etc., >> but you will probably spend more for all that when you add the cost of the >> mike, than radio costs by itself. >> >> Seem a tad wasteful to me when the radio already has a good EQ and a mike >> costing a fraction of the fancy "studio" mike will sound the same on the >> other end of the QSO. >> >> I don't under the fascination (or logic?) of using a wide response and >> expensive microphone just to narrow it down to 300 to 2800 Hz, unless you're >> H3LL bent on putting out a 10 kHz wide VOA grade signal that is frankly, >> illegal anyway. >> >> Yeah, yeah I know, you're voice is "different" and you need all that stuff >> to make it sound "right". >> If that's what you want, then by all means go for it. >> It's the same logic as using your (insert $200k car) to make daily commuter >> runs mostly stuck in traffic. >> >> 73, Charlie k3ICH >> >> >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net >> > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] help wiring a mic?
Operator mike technique is very important with regard to good to great audio. I've found that my $20 Behringer 8500 sounds as good as my $100 Shure SM 58. Likewise my $200 Heil PR 781 needs for one to pay special attention to mike-to-mouth distance in order to control proximity effect. Price and type do not assure one of "great audio". OTOH - I find most hand mikes supplied with radios sound "plastic" with various resonances and rattles and squeaks, noticeable on the air. Bob, K4TAX Sent from my iPhone On Jul 6, 2018, at 6:48 AM, Charlie T wrote: >> This mic is intended for studio and recording work. It is a very poor >> choice for ham radio. >> >> 73, Jim K9YC > > > I feel Jim's choice of the term "poor" is correct, but in a monetary sense. > > Yes, you may be able to get the mike to communications quality with racks of > audio processing equipment etc., > but you will probably spend more for all that when you add the cost of the > mike, than radio costs by itself. > > Seem a tad wasteful to me when the radio already has a good EQ and a mike > costing a fraction of the fancy "studio" mike will sound the same on the > other end of the QSO. > > I don't under the fascination (or logic?) of using a wide response and > expensive microphone just to narrow it down to 300 to 2800 Hz, unless you're > H3LL bent on putting out a 10 kHz wide VOA grade signal that is frankly, > illegal anyway. > > Yeah, yeah I know, you're voice is "different" and you need all that stuff > to make it sound "right". > If that's what you want, then by all means go for it. > It's the same logic as using your (insert $200k car) to make daily commuter > runs mostly stuck in traffic. > > 73, Charlie k3ICH > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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> This mic is intended for studio and recording work. It is a very poor > choice for ham radio. > > 73, Jim K9YC I feel Jim's choice of the term "poor" is correct, but in a monetary sense. Yes, you may be able to get the mike to communications quality with racks of audio processing equipment etc., but you will probably spend more for all that when you add the cost of the mike, than radio costs by itself. Seem a tad wasteful to me when the radio already has a good EQ and a mike costing a fraction of the fancy "studio" mike will sound the same on the other end of the QSO. I don't under the fascination (or logic?) of using a wide response and expensive microphone just to narrow it down to 300 to 2800 Hz, unless you're H3LL bent on putting out a 10 kHz wide VOA grade signal that is frankly, illegal anyway. Yeah, yeah I know, you're voice is "different" and you need all that stuff to make it sound "right". If that's what you want, then by all means go for it. It's the same logic as using your (insert $200k car) to make daily commuter runs mostly stuck in traffic. 73, Charlie k3ICH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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This is simply untrue Jim. Many hams use xlr connected microphones with phantom power. A w2ihy iBox and a cheap behringer mixer will quickly disprove your assertion. I know of many hams that use such setups for broadcast AM transmitters moved to amateur radio frequencies. On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 12:51 AM Jim Brown wrote: > On 7/5/2018 3:27 PM, Schumacher, Paul wrote: > > I have a Neewer NW 800 mic that I want to use with a KX3. > > This mic is intended for studio and recording work. It is a very poor > choice for ham radio. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to hayden.s...@gmail.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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On 7/5/2018 3:27 PM, Schumacher, Paul wrote: I have a Neewer NW 800 mic that I want to use with a KX3. This mic is intended for studio and recording work. It is a very poor choice for ham radio. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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If it is a condenser mic, it's going to need a 48v power supply They now make some nice little tiny ones... I LOVE my condenser mic... __ Clay Autery, KY5G (318) 518-1389 On 05-Jul-18 17:44, Walter Underwood wrote: That mic appears to require 48 V phantom power (mic bias), which is far more than the KX3 provides. One question on Amazon says it works with 5 V. Maybe, maybe not. The manual for the Elecraft MH3 mic shows the wiring needed to work with the KX3. http://www.elecraft.com/manual/MH3%20Rev%20A.pdf wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) On Jul 5, 2018, at 3:27 PM, Schumacher, Paul wrote: I have a Neewer NW 800 mic that I want to use with a KX3. Anyone know how to wire it up? thanks, Paul K0ZYV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] help wiring a mic?
That mic appears to require 48 V phantom power (mic bias), which is far more than the KX3 provides. One question on Amazon says it works with 5 V. Maybe, maybe not. The manual for the Elecraft MH3 mic shows the wiring needed to work with the KX3. http://www.elecraft.com/manual/MH3%20Rev%20A.pdf wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jul 5, 2018, at 3:27 PM, Schumacher, Paul wrote: > > I have a Neewer NW 800 mic that I want to use with a KX3. Anyone know > > how to wire it up? > > > thanks, > > > Paul K0ZYV > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I have a Neewer NW 800 mic that I want to use with a KX3. Anyone know how to wire it up? thanks, Paul K0ZYV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
