Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Shipping time to UK

2007-06-27 Thread John GM4SLV
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:

 Can anyone give me an idea of the time is takes for goods to reach the UK?
 I'm away most of August and if Elecraft ship my K3 at end of July, it might
 just sit in Royal mail for 5 days, before I can get it - they will then
 return it to Elecraft :-)
 

Further to the discussions surrounding ParcelFarce's treatment of 
incoming goods, and my only experience with them is through buying 
Elecraft bits, I'm having trouble on my latest purchase that I thought 
I'd share.

I ordered a KAT2 auto-atu kit on or around June 10th and got the usual, 
prompt and friendly email informing me that it shipped on June 11th. It 
still hasn't arrived in the UK, 16 days later.

Using the tracking number, supplied by Lisa, shows that it was last seen 
on 14th June whan it was marked Left Origin Country. ParcelFarce's 
track  Trace shows it to be in status Handed Over whatever that 
means. I seem to remember previous packages show Arrived at hub and 
Awaiting Customs clearance etc, but I don't recall anyhting sitting at 
Handed Over for 13 days before.

Lisa reports that others are reporting missing/delayed parcels that were 
shipped on the 11th.

Is anyone else having this problem? Has anyone (UK or US) taken delivery 
of a parcel that shipped from Aptos on the 11th June?

Cheers,

John

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Re: [Elecraft]Elecraft Shipping time to UK

2007-06-20 Thread John GM4SLV
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 11:40:44 +0100
Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi David,
 
 Shipping times vary, but Elecraft give you a tracking number that is
 useful.  Usually less than a week in my experience to clear
 Pacelforce etc.
 
 73  Bryan GM3AKF



Recently ParcelFarce have started to crack down on the collection of
fees, which a few years ago were left to the discretion of the
postman delvering the package. If he couldn't be bothered then he
forgot (as happened with my K1 kit).

Now I find the ParcelFarce hold your goods at their depot and send a
letter to you detailing the charges and giving a reference number that
you need in order to pay the charge. Only after you've contected them
by phone or letter will they send it out for delivery. You can't phone
them to pay until you get the letter, becuase they can't identify your
parcel by anything other than the customs reference number!

For me this adds about 1 week to the process, as the initial letter
from ParcelFarce is send 2nd class, the depot is on the UK mainland and
I'm not, so after paying by credit card over the phone the parcel than
needs an overnight trip on the ferry.

Originally I could get goods from Elecraft in a week, even given my
offshore, remote location, but now I'm lucky if it's here within 2
weeks. It annoys me that I can track the parcel from Aptos to Aberdeen
and see it take 3 days at most, then have this stupid rigmarole of
waiting for the 2nd class letter before I can arrange to pay the
charges etc, which adds another week or more.



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RE: Elecraft Digest, Vol 38, Issue 28 : Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Shipping time to UK

2007-06-20 Thread JONES, George


My experience - varies from 5 days to  3 weeks, the latter
due to Customs' delay at the Heathrow hub - whatever that is..
73

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Re: [Elecraft]Elecraft Shipping time to UK

2007-06-20 Thread Geoffrey Downs
To corroborate what John GM4SLV says, when I bought something from the US 
(not Elecraft) last December, the first news I had of it was a letter from a 
ParcelForce depot in Leeds (not far from my QTH) asking for payment of VAT 
and their Clearance Fee before they would deliver. Incidentally the letter 
said they would keep it 20 days before returning to sender, so if the system 
is the same where David M0XDF lives he may not have a problem if he is not 
at home at the time.


73

Geoff
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RE: [Elecraft]Elecraft Shipping time to UK

2007-06-20 Thread Phil Wright
I recently ordered a kit from the US. It arrived in 3 days by airmail. It
was $40 so just above the threshold for applying VAT (£18 I believe).

My parcel was delivered by our postie resplendent with a big customs label
saying £3.50 + £8 handling fee was due.  Our postie looked at the label,
shrugged and gave the parcel to my wife without collecting a penny.

I think it is the luck of the draw, and the larger the amount the greater
the chance that someone will ask you to pay.  I was lucky with my K2 - was
not asked for VAT on that either!

Phil, G8JQH



Recently ParcelFarce have started to crack down on the collection of fees,
which a few years ago were left to the discretion of the
postman delvering the package. If he couldn't be bothered then he forgot
(as happened with my K1 kit).



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Re: [Elecraft]Elecraft Shipping time to UK

2007-06-20 Thread Tim Heasman

Hi All

For the benefit of UK buyers, have you looked at this site 
http://www.qrpshop-international.de/index.htm, the only small problem is 
that VAT in Germany is 19%, but there are no customs or parcel force 
problems.



Tim

gm4lmh 


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Re: [Elecraft]Elecraft Shipping time to UK

2007-06-20 Thread Peter Howson

Phil

You were lucky, I had to pay Handling, VAT and Duty!!

Got the duty back eventually - seemed the person checking it in couldn't be 
bothered with the duty codes. Although the letter from customs made it 
appear to be my fault that they had charged me.



I think it is the luck of the draw, and the larger the amount the greater

the chance that someone will ask you to pay.  I was lucky with my K2 - was
not asked for VAT on that either!

Phil, G8JQH

Peter
GM8GAX
K2 #4027
K3 #(next year sometime)




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RE: [Elecraft]Elecraft Shipping time to UK

2007-06-20 Thread Phil Wright
True Tim, but their prices are very significantly higher than the US.

I always check qrpshop prices but even adding in the VAT and postage buying
from the US direct is always much cheaper.
Bear in mind that there is no duty to pay on amateur radio kits anyway - so
that does not enter into the equation.

As an example - a bare K2 now costs $620 from elecraft plus say $63 for
shipping. That is $692 which translates to £348.
Now add 17.5% VAT and £8 clearance fee = £417 in round numbers.  Now buy the
same item from Germany - 769 euros including VAT. Add 20 euros for shipping
and that's 789 euros or £531. That's over £100 more!  As I say, much better
to go straight to the US and buy there.

Phil, G8JQH

For the benefit of UK buyers, have you looked at this site
http://www.qrpshop-international.de/index.htm, 



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Re: [Elecraft]Elecraft Shipping time to UK

2007-06-20 Thread dj7mgq
Hi,

Because Germany and the UK are both part of the EU:

 that VAT in Germany is 19%, but there are no customs or parcel force 
 problems.


When I've imported stuff from the US to Germany either I end up going to the
customs office here in Munich and paying them the 19% directly ...

.. or I've gotten calls from the parcel service (UPS, DPD, etc.) informing that
they have a packet in Cologne (or elsewhere) for me. When the parcel service
calls, then one has to try and explain what is in the package and yes you may
do customs for me. In this case an extra charge is added by the parcel 
company. 

vy 73 de toby
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Re: [Elecraft]Elecraft Shipping time to UK

2007-06-20 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy


John GM4SLV  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Originally I could get goods from Elecraft in a week, even given my
offshore, remote location, but now I'm lucky if it's here within 2
weeks. It annoys me that I can track the parcel from Aptos to Aberdeen
and see it take 3 days at most, then have this stupid rigmarole of
waiting for the 2nd class letter before I can arrange to pay the
charges etc, which adds another week or more.



-

When Fedex or UPS informs me by email that a package has been delivered to 
the nearest Parcel Force depot, I can phone the depot quoting the tracking 
reference number and pay any charges by card also get the approximate time 
of delivery to me next day. Parcel Force nevertheless sends me their 
computer generated 2nd class letter ( on one occasion two!) which arrives 
here long after the package has been delivered here.


The last three items which I ordered from the States took on average 3 days 
from time of shipment to clear HMG Customs in England, and over a week to 
get from England to Scotland!


73,
Geoff
GM4ESD 



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Re: [Elecraft]Elecraft Shipping time to UK

2007-06-20 Thread Trevor Jacobs

Just out of curiosity sake, have you guys tried FEDEX? Might be cheaper...

73 Trev K6ESE

Phil Wright wrote:

True Tim, but their prices are very significantly higher than the US.

I always check qrpshop prices but even adding in the VAT and postage buying
from the US direct is always much cheaper.
Bear in mind that there is no duty to pay on amateur radio kits anyway - so
that does not enter into the equation.

As an example - a bare K2 now costs $620 from elecraft plus say $63 for
shipping. That is $692 which translates to £348.
Now add 17.5% VAT and £8 clearance fee = £417 in round numbers.  Now buy the
same item from Germany - 769 euros including VAT. Add 20 euros for shipping
and that's 789 euros or £531. That's over £100 more!  As I say, much better
to go straight to the US and buy there.

Phil, G8JQH

For the benefit of UK buyers, have you looked at this site
http://www.qrpshop-international.de/index.htm, 




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[Elecraft] Elecraft Shipping time to UK

2007-06-19 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Can anyone give me an idea of the time is takes for goods to reach the UK?
I'm away most of August and if Elecraft ship my K3 at end of July, it might
just sit in Royal mail for 5 days, before I can get it - they will then
return it to Elecraft :-)
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Shipping time to UK

2007-06-19 Thread G3SJJ
On second thoughts Thomas, why not get delivery delivered until your 
return so that someone else can be receive their K3 a littel earlier?


Chris G3SJJ

David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:

Can anyone give me an idea of the time is takes for goods to reach the UK?
I'm away most of August and if Elecraft ship my K3 at end of July, it might
just sit in Royal mail for 5 days, before I can get it - they will then
return it to Elecraft :-)
  

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Shipping time to UK

2007-06-19 Thread David Pratt
Allow a couple of weeks for delivery as the package will be directed 
through Customs for VAT to be charged, plus the Royal Mail handling fee.


Depending how far back in the queue you are, it could be late August or 
even September before it arrives.


David G4DMP

In a recent message, David Ferrington, M0XDF [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote ...

Can anyone give me an idea of the time is takes for goods to reach the UK?
I'm away most of August and if Elecraft ship my K3 at end of July, it might
just sit in Royal mail for 5 days, before I can get it - they will then
return it to Elecraft :-)


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Shipping time to UK

2007-06-19 Thread Julian G4ILO

On 6/19/07, David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Allow a couple of weeks for delivery as the package will be directed
through Customs for VAT to be charged, plus the Royal Mail handling fee.


In the past, I've been pretty impressed with the speed of delivery. I
seem to remember when I ordered my K2 kit it took less than a week.

I think the post office will hang on to undeliverable packages for 14
days before returning them to the sender.

If I were you I'd cancel your holiday. :)
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[Elecraft]Elecraft Shipping time to UK

2007-06-19 Thread Bryan
Hi David,

Shipping times vary, but Elecraft give you a tracking number that is useful.  
Usually less than a week in my experience to clear Pacelforce etc.

73  Bryan GM3AKF

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Shipping time to UK

2007-06-19 Thread Vic K2VCO

David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:

Can anyone give me an idea of the time is takes for goods to reach the UK?
I'm away most of August and if Elecraft ship my K3 at end of July, it might
just sit in Royal mail for 5 days, before I can get it - they will then
return it to Elecraft :-)


My company sends small packages from California to the UK all the time. 
It usually takes about a week and a half. A K3 is larger, so I'm not 
sure it's the same.


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Re: [Elecraft]Elecraft Shipping time to UK

2007-06-19 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
We will also notify each person before we ship to confirm rig 
configuration (options, etc.) and shipping details.


73, Eric  WA6HHQ

Bryan wrote:

Hi David,

Shipping times vary, but Elecraft give you a tracking number that is useful.  
Usually less than a week in my experience to clear Pacelforce etc.

73  Bryan GM3AKF
  

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Re: [Elecraft]Elecraft Shipping time to UK

2007-06-19 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Thanks, that's good


On 19/6/07 17:03, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

 We will also notify each person before we ship to confirm rig
 configuration (options, etc.) and shipping details.
 
 73, Eric  WA6HHQ
 
 Bryan wrote:
 Hi David,
 
 Shipping times vary, but Elecraft give you a tracking number that is useful.
 Usually less than a week in my experience to clear Pacelforce etc.
 
 73  Bryan GM3AKF
   

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Re: [Elecraft]Elecraft Shipping time to UK

2007-06-19 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
Thanks much for the information.  While this message was coming in, I
was sending one to sales about exactly this issue.

73, doug

   Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:03:31 -0700
   From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   We will also notify each person before we ship to confirm rig 
   configuration (options, etc.) and shipping details.

   73, Eric  WA6HHQ
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