Re: [Elecraft] K3: Desired AM mode improvements
And when will "spark" be implemented??? After all this takes us back to the very origins of Amateur Radio and it should not be allowed to die! No other radio on the market addresses this mode and Elecraft now has the opportunity to correct this over-site! Doug W6JD...with a Ford spark coil in the junk box -- Original message -- From: Don Rasmussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Lyle Johnson wrote: > "The firmware currently being tested does FM (w/CTCSS > encode, repeater splits, etc.) and has wider AM > receive bandwidth. It has better low frequency SSB > response, better ALC, and a number of other > enhancements." > > Of course Lyle has this NOW, in addition to a working > SubRx. > > If I could get my hands through this monitor and CHOKE > him, he'd be talking raspy right now... > > > > > AM-Sync is further down the list, but it *is* on the > list. > > 73, > > Lyle KK7P > > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3: Desired AM mode improvements
> I just hope that "bug fixes" come above everything else on the list. I hope bug fixes are prioritized appropriately on the list and many lower priority bug fixes not addressed until options like the KRX3 are released. 73, Ed - W0YK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Desired AM mode improvements
I just hope that "bug fixes" come above everything else on the list. 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:21:47 -0700, Lyle Johnson wrote: >> This hobby is not only for CW and SSB ops. The K3 developers can accept or >> disregard any or all suggestions on this reflector. >> > I may not comment on many things here, but I try and monitor the > reflector as best I can. > > The firmware currently being tested does FM (w/CTCSS encode, repeater > splits, etc.) and has wider AM receive bandwidth. It has better low > frequency SSB response, better ALC, and a number of other enhancements. > > AM-Sync is further down the list, but it *is* on the list. > > 73, > > Lyle KK7P > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Desired AM mode improvements
This hobby is not only for CW and SSB ops. The K3 developers can accept or disregard any or all suggestions on this reflector. I may not comment on many things here, but I try and monitor the reflector as best I can. The firmware currently being tested does FM (w/CTCSS encode, repeater splits, etc.) and has wider AM receive bandwidth. It has better low frequency SSB response, better ALC, and a number of other enhancements. AM-Sync is further down the list, but it *is* on the list. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Desired AM mode improvements
... Also, independent sideband selection would be nice as well. You can do this with the SubRx. Set one Rx for USB, the other Rx for LSB, LINK the VFOs and you have it. Yes, I know, the SubRx is not shipping yet. But they *are* being manufactured and the one in my K3 *is* working. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Desired AM mode improvements
I for one am looking forward to AM synch on the K3. (or will be, once I've gotten my K3...). As strange as it might sound, I wouldn't have ordered one if not for general coverage receive capability, so this feature is pretty important to me. That and CW are my "prime focus". I don't have a problem with waiting while the more popular features are developed. But the K3 is a software defined radio, with the promise that it WILL do nearly everything; or at least everything a Drake can do. Anyhow, I just wanted to add my vote for synchronous AM detection and wider b/w. Also, independent sideband selection would be nice as well.Thanks. 73, Drew AF2Z On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 05:57:34 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: > >Ken, > >I'm going to say what a lot of people are thinking but to polite to express. > >I like your suggestion. After all the prime focus of the K3 design is >amateur band, CW,SSB, and digital modes. Having high performance for these >modes is its selling point. Asking it to "do everything" on all frequencies >detracts from efforts to optimize its primary functions. > >In almost 50 years, I've heard maybe 1 amateur FM station operating. >Yeah, there may be a few more but it hardly constitutes a majority mode. >Are there really so many ham AM ops? > >Sure people are free to buy anything they want. Their choice. However, >what they do buy may not be optimum for their needs. > >I think Elecraft is doing an amazing job at meeting the needs of their >owners. However, even they have limits. > >73 de Brian/K3KO > > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3: Desired AM mode improvements
I do not favor censorship on this reflector. These are only suggestions. This hobby is not only for CW and SSB ops. The K3 developers can accept or disregard any or all suggestions on this reflector. Bob Serwy - N9RS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Alsop Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 8:46 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Desired AM mode improvements And get the backlog down to almost "off the shelf" ... It is clear that it isn't just the HF op who is blind. 73 de Brian/K3KO jimbrass wrote: > I'll have to go along with K3KO; I tried to opine the same thought > through Nabble and it was never posted. Three of the most voracious > modes, spectrum wise, are FM, AM, and most anything digital, in that > order. Spectrum is and has been a premium for amateurs. It may be > more so in the future. A relative few hams are users of the > aforementioned modes. They appear to be the most frequent commenters > on this reflector. Spectrum use is one issue. The other is making the > K3 all things to all users. I personally want to see a great CW and > SSB radio. If, with time, it can do more with other modes, great. I > wish the FM/AM/digital folks would remember that there are two guys, > one the code writer, who drive the K3 developement. Give them a break > and lets ease up on the esoteric. > > My opinion. > > 73, Jim, K4ZMV > > > - Original Message - From: "AD6XY - Mike" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 9:19 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Desired AM mode improvements > > >> >> >> The blindness of the HF only operator again? >> >> FM is absolutely a majority mode everywhere but HF, but to have only >> heard 1 FM signal in 50 years implies not attempt to progress beyond >> HF. >> >> FM is used all the time at VHF, though not for DX. That in Europe at >> least includes 6m and up. There is also limited activity at 10m. The >> K3 is an excellent transverter driver and that is the reason many of >> us bought one. >> Having FM capabilities is necessary for DXing at VHF and above. I am >> sure everyone aware that microwave rain scatter contacts are >> frequently easier to complete using FM than SSB or CW because of the >> dispersive effects of the mode. Then there are the FM satellites. >> >> AM is less used for transmission but very much used for SWL. >> >> Mike >> >> >> K3KO wrote: >> >>> >>> Ken, >>> >>> In almost 50 years, I've heard maybe 1 amateur FM station operating. >>> Yeah, there may be a few more but it hardly constitutes a majority >>> mode. >>> Are there really so many ham AM ops? >>> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/K3%3A-Desired-AM-mode-improvements-tp16624208p1 >> 6763414.html >> >> Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> ___ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Desired AM mode improvements
Hi Brian, There are many users of 10M and 6M FM and many repeaters on these bands ... even several here in Montana. (:-) AM also has many users, especially on 75M and 160M. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP Montana Frequency Coordinator ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Desired AM mode improvements
And get the backlog down to almost "off the shelf" ... It is clear that it isn't just the HF op who is blind. 73 de Brian/K3KO jimbrass wrote: I'll have to go along with K3KO; I tried to opine the same thought through Nabble and it was never posted. Three of the most voracious modes, spectrum wise, are FM, AM, and most anything digital, in that order. Spectrum is and has been a premium for amateurs. It may be more so in the future. A relative few hams are users of the aforementioned modes. They appear to be the most frequent commenters on this reflector. Spectrum use is one issue. The other is making the K3 all things to all users. I personally want to see a great CW and SSB radio. If, with time, it can do more with other modes, great. I wish the FM/AM/digital folks would remember that there are two guys, one the code writer, who drive the K3 developement. Give them a break and lets ease up on the esoteric. My opinion. 73, Jim, K4ZMV - Original Message - From: "AD6XY - Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Desired AM mode improvements The blindness of the HF only operator again? FM is absolutely a majority mode everywhere but HF, but to have only heard 1 FM signal in 50 years implies not attempt to progress beyond HF. FM is used all the time at VHF, though not for DX. That in Europe at least includes 6m and up. There is also limited activity at 10m. The K3 is an excellent transverter driver and that is the reason many of us bought one. Having FM capabilities is necessary for DXing at VHF and above. I am sure everyone aware that microwave rain scatter contacts are frequently easier to complete using FM than SSB or CW because of the dispersive effects of the mode. Then there are the FM satellites. AM is less used for transmission but very much used for SWL. Mike K3KO wrote: Ken, In almost 50 years, I've heard maybe 1 amateur FM station operating. Yeah, there may be a few more but it hardly constitutes a majority mode. Are there really so many ham AM ops? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3%3A-Desired-AM-mode-improvements-tp16624208p16763414.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Desired AM mode improvements
I'll have to go along with K3KO; I tried to opine the same thought through Nabble and it was never posted. Three of the most voracious modes, spectrum wise, are FM, AM, and most anything digital, in that order. Spectrum is and has been a premium for amateurs. It may be more so in the future. A relative few hams are users of the aforementioned modes. They appear to be the most frequent commenters on this reflector. Spectrum use is one issue. The other is making the K3 all things to all users. I personally want to see a great CW and SSB radio. If, with time, it can do more with other modes, great. I wish the FM/AM/digital folks would remember that there are two guys, one the code writer, who drive the K3 developement. Give them a break and lets ease up on the esoteric. My opinion. 73, Jim, K4ZMV - Original Message - From: "AD6XY - Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Desired AM mode improvements The blindness of the HF only operator again? FM is absolutely a majority mode everywhere but HF, but to have only heard 1 FM signal in 50 years implies not attempt to progress beyond HF. FM is used all the time at VHF, though not for DX. That in Europe at least includes 6m and up. There is also limited activity at 10m. The K3 is an excellent transverter driver and that is the reason many of us bought one. Having FM capabilities is necessary for DXing at VHF and above. I am sure everyone aware that microwave rain scatter contacts are frequently easier to complete using FM than SSB or CW because of the dispersive effects of the mode. Then there are the FM satellites. AM is less used for transmission but very much used for SWL. Mike K3KO wrote: Ken, In almost 50 years, I've heard maybe 1 amateur FM station operating. Yeah, there may be a few more but it hardly constitutes a majority mode. Are there really so many ham AM ops? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3%3A-Desired-AM-mode-improvements-tp16624208p16763414.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3: Desired AM mode improvements
I agree with the diversity of usage of rigs. I'm guilty of being the blind HF op who only uses CW and a bit of SSB, but I'm really interested in experiencing synchronous AM. I'd love to do some 10M FM just for fun. I'm sure there are others like me who, while focusing on one mode, are interested in dabbling in something new. So, is sync AM important? Yea, it is. It's part of the reason I bought a K3. So is 6 meters. - Keith N1AS - - K2 5411.ssb.100 - - K3 maybe today - -Original Message- From: Mike The blindness of the HF only operator again? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Desired AM mode improvements
The blindness of the HF only operator again? FM is absolutely a majority mode everywhere but HF, but to have only heard 1 FM signal in 50 years implies not attempt to progress beyond HF. FM is used all the time at VHF, though not for DX. That in Europe at least includes 6m and up. There is also limited activity at 10m. The K3 is an excellent transverter driver and that is the reason many of us bought one. Having FM capabilities is necessary for DXing at VHF and above. I am sure everyone aware that microwave rain scatter contacts are frequently easier to complete using FM than SSB or CW because of the dispersive effects of the mode. Then there are the FM satellites. AM is less used for transmission but very much used for SWL. Mike K3KO wrote: > > Ken, > > In almost 50 years, I've heard maybe 1 amateur FM station operating. > Yeah, there may be a few more but it hardly constitutes a majority mode. > Are there really so many ham AM ops? > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3%3A-Desired-AM-mode-improvements-tp16624208p16763414.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Desired AM mode improvements
Ken, I'm going to say what a lot of people are thinking but to polite to express. I like your suggestion. After all the prime focus of the K3 design is amateur band, CW,SSB, and digital modes. Having high performance for these modes is its selling point. Asking it to "do everything" on all frequencies detracts from efforts to optimize its primary functions. In almost 50 years, I've heard maybe 1 amateur FM station operating. Yeah, there may be a few more but it hardly constitutes a majority mode. Are there really so many ham AM ops? Sure people are free to buy anything they want. Their choice. However, what they do buy may not be optimum for their needs. I think Elecraft is doing an amazing job at meeting the needs of their owners. However, even they have limits. 73 de Brian/K3KO Shane, You could consider buying a used Drake R8 on eBay -- In my opinion it is a fantastic general coverage receiver with sync dedtection and great sound. You might be able to pick one up for about the cost of a K3 subreceiver option! 73 de Ken - N4OI / K1 Shane White wrote: > > I'm looking for a new general purpose HF receiver and have been > disheartened by radios, including transceivers, currently available on the > market for less than around $2K. Consequently, I would like to know if > Elecraft plan to incorporate Synchronous AM detection? > ...snip > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3%3A-Desired-AM-mode-improvements-tp16624208p16763405.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Desired AM mode improvements
Thanks for the suggestion N4OI but the R8 was released 16 years ago. I'd like to take advantage of some modern receiver design. Shane, You could consider buying a used Drake R8 on eBay -- In my opinion it is a fantastic general coverage receiver with sync dedtection and great sound. You might be able to pick one up for about the cost of a K3 subreceiver option! 73 de Ken - N4OI / K1 Shane White wrote: > > I'm looking for a new general purpose HF receiver and have been > disheartened by radios, including transceivers, currently available on the > market for less than around $2K. Consequently, I would like to know if > Elecraft plan to incorporate Synchronous AM detection? > ...snip > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3%3A-Desired-AM-mode-improvements-tp16624208p16763386.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Desired AM mode improvements
Shane, You could consider buying a used Drake R8 on eBay -- In my opinion it is a fantastic general coverage receiver with sync dedtection and great sound. You might be able to pick one up for about the cost of a K3 subreceiver option! 73 de Ken - N4OI / K1 I'm looking for a new general purpose HF receiver and have been disheartened by radios, including transceivers, currently available on the market for less than around $2K. Consequently, I would like to know if Elecraft plan to incorporate Synchronous AM detection? ...snip -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3%3A-Desired-AM-mode-improvements-tp16624208p16743529.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
