RE: [Elecraft] Price increases - I feel unappreciated!

2008-03-03 Thread Dale Putnam

Well... I pretty much figure it this way, I had to wait past the first 
announcements of the K3, ... 
after analyzing things a bit... and taking aim at the goal... figured that I 
might be able to liquidate enough
to make a K3... but wait.. if it is really underpriced... and it is... then who 
is really taking a hit here...???
Then, just about the time I realized that... the "oh my the sky is falling" 
economic cries became very audible even without filters... or dsp... in the 
mean time... a K2 found a home... which only proves that a good rx is exactly 
what I need... to go alongside a slightly modified IC761 but also with a R4C 
with the Sherwood mods... then Mr. Sherwood did make measurement sights... and 
oh my oh dear.. the price of the sought after K3.. is going up... and just 
maybe just maybe by a tiny little bit... the folks that really deserve not 
to take a hit, by a bunch... will not have to take as much a hit when I order 
mine soon.
  So.. to sum it all up... the price increase is not even noticable, when you 
run the rig through its paces... and pop through pileups,. call the dx 
station before all the others call... continue to keep a run going in the 
contest, even tho there are challangers on both sides... and... and keep the 
enjoyable radio experience alive and well, as you take a deep, full sigh of 
satisfaction after a radio session, as you shut the switches off, and watch 
as the light fades away...from the leds.. *I know.. that doesn't take 
long*...
just about as long as it takes to have the desire to get back on again... with 
your very own K3.


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RE: [Elecraft] Price increases - I feel unappreciated!

2008-03-03 Thread Thom LaCosta

On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, Darwin, Keith wrote:


So I'm down to 3 choices.


2.  Order the PA now and be insulated against any further increases.


I have list track of the delivery schedule, but I think there's enough lag time 
to order the PA, and start "putting a bit aside" a week/paycheck/etc.




3.  Cut my losses completely and just cancel my K3 order figuring the
overall package has just climbed out of reach.


Or, order at the announced price, hope that there is another price increase, 
since I believe that Elecraft stated they would honor prices at the time of 
order, and see it as soon as ya get it for a profit (g).


I'd opt for option 2.

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Re: [Elecraft] Price increases - I feel unappreciated!

2008-03-03 Thread Dave Martin
Yeah, Keith.  Several of us are in your boat.  I was going to build up
the 10 watt radio first and then order the KPA3.  When I placed the
order they were projecting a mid December delivery.  If that had
happened I still could have had plenty of time to order the KPA3
before any price increase.

So I too must figure out what to do.  It'll probably be to never have
but a 10 watt radio.  That's a lot of money for ten watts, no matter
how good the rest of it is.  It would be nice it they'd give those of
us with a radio on order the opportunity to upgrade our order at the
prices that were in effect at the time.  But even so, what's a better
choice than Elecraft?

Dave  W5DHM

>
>  So I'm down to 3 choices.
>
>  1.  Continue to sit-tight and wait until my wallet fills enough to
>  afford the ever-increasing 100 watt PA.
>
>  2.  Order the PA now and be insulated against any further increases.
>
>  3.  Cut my losses completely and just cancel my K3 order figuring the
>  overall package has just climbed out of reach.
>
>
>  *Sigh* damage control is such fun.  Enough of this.  I have some
>  thinking to do.
>
>  - Keith N1AS -
>  - K2 5411.ssb.100 -
>  - K3 Wave 3 -
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RE: [Elecraft] Price increases - I feel unappreciated!

2008-03-03 Thread Darwin, Keith
> Many companies use pending price increases as a marketing scheme to
> push potential buyers into buying.  I'm glad Elecraft does not play
> that game with us.

Giving notice that prices are going up is a marketing scheme ONLY if
prices DON'T go up.  If they do, then what the vendor is giving the
customers is a very valuable service because, as you say ...
"I for one would rather make my own decisions, based on what I can or
cannot afford".  To make decisions, one needs information.


> Elecraft (or any other business) has no contract or obligation to
notify
> consumers of their decision to raise the price of their products.

Absolutely right.  They are under no obligation.  Unfortunately, they've
also missed an opportunity to Delight the Customer.

And to those who say it isn't possible to give price increase notices, I
can give you a link to another specialty-hobby-item vendor who does
EXACTLY that.  When new items (from Europe, BTW) are coming in and the
prices are higher, this vendor (another small Elecraft-type
organization) will put a notice on their forum to tell folks that once
current stock is gone, prices are going up.

Yes, it CAN be done.

So I'm down to 3 choices.

1.  Continue to sit-tight and wait until my wallet fills enough to
afford the ever-increasing 100 watt PA.

2.  Order the PA now and be insulated against any further increases.

3.  Cut my losses completely and just cancel my K3 order figuring the
overall package has just climbed out of reach.


*Sigh* damage control is such fun.  Enough of this.  I have some
thinking to do.

- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 -
- K3 Wave 3 -

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Re: [Elecraft] Price increases - I feel unappreciated!

2008-03-03 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 12:02:37 -0700, you wrote:

>While doing a quick scan of the K3 order page I noticed the 100 watt PA
>has gone up in price again.  This time, it pissed me off.  I have a K3
>on order but have not ordered the 100 watt PA.  I don't *quite* have the
>money for it but I am on the fence, wondering if I should stretch a bit
>and get it anyway.

[snip] 

>Then in Dec 07 or so, the price went up.  Darn, I should have ordered in
>Nov.  Well, with a Dec price increase, prices should be pretty constant
>for quite a while, so I guess I can wait, right?
> 
>WRONG.  Price went up sometime in the last week.  It's another $50 to
>play radio at full barefoot levels.  
> 
>Instead what I got was *Surprise - higher prices - you lose".  Well, at
>least I can say that Elecraft is consistent in this.  I've never seen
>them give current customers any sort of heads-up about impending price
>increases.
> 
>All of which leaves me feeling consistently underappreciated!
[snip]

What you describe is a real bummer and nobody wants that to happen to them, but
it does.  We have no control over prices, and shouldn't.  The manufacturers of
products control that.

Many companies use pending price increases as a marketing scheme to push
potential buyers into buying.  I'm glad Elecraft does not play that game with
us.  I'm also glad they don't start out with an unreasonable price and offer us
coupons to encourage us to buy.

I for one would rather make my own decisions, based on what I can or cannot
afford, which is what it appears you have done.  Congratulations!  We should all
be better at that.

Elecraft (or any other business) has no contract or obligation to notify
consumers of their decision to raise the price of their products.  What would be
wrong, would be for them to raise the price of anything you had already ordered.

As far as feeling unappreciated;  I wouldn't feel unappreciated unless I knew
they had raised the price only for me and others were not paying the increased
price.

 
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Re: [Elecraft] Price increases - I feel unappreciated!

2008-03-03 Thread AD6XY - Mike

It is hardly surprising considering the US Dollar is so weak at the moment
and most of the parts are not made in the USA. Had Elecraft passed on the
complete fall in the Dollar, I suspect it would be a lot more. 




Darwin, Keith wrote:
> 
> While doing a quick scan of the K3 order page I noticed the 100 watt PA
> has gone up in price again.  This time, it pissed me off.  I have a K3
> on order but have not ordered the 100 watt PA.  I don't *quite* have the
> money for it but I am on the fence, wondering if I should stretch a bit
> and get it anyway.
>  
> Then in Dec 07 or so, the price went up.  Darn, I should have ordered in
> Nov.  Well, with a Dec price increase, prices should be pretty constant
> for quite a while, so I guess I can wait, right?
>  
> WRONG.  Price went up sometime in the last week.  It's another $50 to
> play radio at full barefoot levels.  If I had known, I'd probably have
> added the PA to my order.  As someone sitting on the fence, a quick post
> to the list saying "a price increase is coming" would be enough to push
> me over the edge and get me to place an order.
>  
> Instead what I got was *Surprise - higher prices - you lose".  Well, at
> least I can say that Elecraft is consistent in this.  I've never seen
> them give current customers any sort of heads-up about impending price
> increases.
>  
> All of which leaves me feeling consistently underappreciated!
>  
> - Keith N1AS -
> - K2 5411.ssb.100 -
> - K3 Wave 3 -
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