Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AFX operation
Hi Lyle, Thank you for your explanation of how AFX works; I now better understand how AFX currently behaves. While listening to cw, I find that increasing DELAY shifts the apparent source of a cw signal further to the left, which makes me believe that AFX delays the right stereo channel. AFX does provide a nice spatial sense of the sound (albeit with sound sources shifted to the left of center). I know that your plate is full right now, but I was pleased to hear that you are thinking of a a future AFX with that spatially locates a sound source based on its pitch. Best Regard and 73, John, no8v Original message Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:41:39 -0700 From: Lyle Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AFX operation To: Jeff Kinzli N6GQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net I have recently begun experimenting with my K3's AFX feature... This is not what I expected. What am I doing wrong? The K3 does not provide a space based on pitch which is apparently what you were expecting. That effect is on the list of things to consider for the future. BIN provides a fixed phase shift between the two channels. DLY provides a fixed (but user selectable) time delay between the two channels. I use DLY 3. Wayne prefers DLY 5. This is *all* what we call psychoacoustics, mainly because we like to use 5 syllable words to impress :-) Different listeners react in different ways to these settings. There is no correct one; use what you prefer, including OFF. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AFX operation
John, that sounds like what I have experienced with AFX:BIN. Perhaps we need to use the stereo output on the rear of the K3 for the real effect. AFX:DELAY5, on the other hand, does seem to lay out signals in a virtualized manner, spatially separated in front of the listener. In my experience, however, this effect takes time to materialze, for me, it was a number of hours in the seat before it happened. Don't get me wrong, AFX:DELAY5 is very comfortable to listen to, but the virtual spatialization seemed to take a while to happen (for me, anyway). I wonder what other people experience in terms of time before they notice the spatial separation? Jeff N6GQ On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 3:04 PM, John H Gibson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have recently begun experimenting with my K3's AFX feature. My understanding is that AFX is supposed to spread cw signals across a virtual listening space in front of the operator (distributed according to pitch?). My experience, listening with stereo headphones and with AFX on, is that all of the sound seems to come from one side and slightly to the rear. With AFX off I hear a balanced sound from the headphones that seems to be in the center of my head. This is not what I expected. What am I doing wrong? 73, john, no8v ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AFX operation
I have recently begun experimenting with my K3's AFX feature... This is not what I expected. What am I doing wrong? The K3 does not provide a space based on pitch which is apparently what you were expecting. That effect is on the list of things to consider for the future. BIN provides a fixed phase shift between the two channels. DLY provides a fixed (but user selectable) time delay between the two channels. I use DLY 3. Wayne prefers DLY 5. This is *all* what we call psychoacoustics, mainly because we like to use 5 syllable words to impress :-) Different listeners react in different ways to these settings. There is no correct one; use what you prefer, including OFF. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AFX operation
I could swear that the audio was louder from the left speaker than from the right with AFX turned on so I got out my trusty DB meter and measured each one. They are identical. I think this is caused by speaker location. Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Lyle Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jeff Kinzli N6GQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AFX operation I have recently begun experimenting with my K3's AFX feature... This is not what I expected. What am I doing wrong? The K3 does not provide a space based on pitch which is apparently what you were expecting. That effect is on the list of things to consider for the future. BIN provides a fixed phase shift between the two channels. DLY provides a fixed (but user selectable) time delay between the two channels. I use DLY 3. Wayne prefers DLY 5. This is *all* what we call psychoacoustics, mainly because we like to use 5 syllable words to impress :-) Different listeners react in different ways to these settings. There is no correct one; use what you prefer, including OFF. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1515 - Release Date: 6/23/2008 7:16 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
