Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500] Tune in KAT500 Utility software broken?
The rest of that sentence is important. It reads. "You can prevent automatic tuning by selecting the MAN (manual) mode. In MAN, the KAT500 will automatically choose a new tuner setting based on the band and antenna selected, but you must tap TUNE and then apply RF power to initiate a tuning operation if needed." That means that in MAN the KAT500 will not automatically run through a tune sequence, choosing an L and C for minimum SWR, even if the SWR exceeds the threshold for an automatic Tune operation. However, when you change bands/frequency, the ATU will automatically switch to the previously memorized settings for that frequency, or the settings for the closest frequency that has been memorized. We'll look at expanding on that in future revisions to make it clearer. (Too many flavors of "automatic" happening in there ;-) 73, Ron AC7AC -Original Message- I get it. You HOLD the XMIT button on the K3 to tune the KAT500 and no need to press TUNE on the KAT500 and then a button on the K3. You don't TAP the ATU TUNE button when in BYPASS mode with the ATU installed (if using the KAT500) because nothing happens except the screen reminds that you are in BYPASS mode. There is room for some confusion and some omission in the manual. For instance: " You can prevent automatic tuning by selecting the MAN (manual) mode. In MAN, the KAT500 will automatically choose a new tuner setting..." I guess that makes sense to someone. In MAN mode the tuner automatically. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KAT500-Tune-in-KAT500-Utility-software- broken-tp7566649p7566730.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500] Tune in KAT500 Utility software broken?
And after the KAT500 has learned enough (happens over time), remembering to transmit a short taste of RF (TUNE or a few dits) to the KAT500 when changing band segments (CW-Fone portions) so the KAT500 can adjust. This is really important the lower the band. Only the BAND information is sent to the KAT500, not the band segment. Because of that, you'll find that the system will 'presume' nothing has changed when you in band QSY and you'll want to leave the KPA500 offline for that dit because even the momentary mismatch (while the KAT500 tunes) is enough to fault the KPA500. That means additional time to clear the fault etc. It isn't a problem with the gear, but in adjusting the organic memory (me!) for appropriate operating habits. In short, after an in band QSY, inform the KAT500 by sending a couple dits. Perhaps at some future date the wizards at Elecraft can update the K3 firmware to make the K3 AT Tune button function cause the KAT500 to act like the KAT3 tuner functions, but it's pretty darned close to perfect now. 73 es Merry Christmas, Rick wa6nhc K3 + P3 + KPA500 + KAT500 = one happy camper -Original Message- From: KM4VX I get it. You HOLD the XMIT button on the K3 to tune the KAT500 and no need to press TUNE on the KAT500 and then a button on the K3. You don't TAP the ATU TUNE button when in BYPASS mode with the ATU installed (if using the KAT500) because nothing happens except the screen reminds that you are in BYPASS mode. There is room for some confusion and some omission in the manual. For instance: " You can prevent automatic tuning by selecting the MAN (manual) mode. In MAN, the KAT500 will automatically choose a new tuner setting..." I guess that makes sense to someone. In MAN mode the tuner automatically. Thanks. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500] Tune in KAT500 Utility software broken?
I get it. You HOLD the XMIT button on the K3 to tune the KAT500 and no need to press TUNE on the KAT500 and then a button on the K3. You don't TAP the ATU TUNE button when in BYPASS mode with the ATU installed (if using the KAT500) because nothing happens except the screen reminds that you are in BYPASS mode. There is room for some confusion and some omission in the manual. For instance: " You can prevent automatic tuning by selecting the MAN (manual) mode. In MAN, the KAT500 will automatically choose a new tuner setting..." I guess that makes sense to someone. In MAN mode the tuner automatically. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KAT500-Tune-in-KAT500-Utility-software-broken-tp7566649p7566730.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500] Tune in KAT500 Utility software broken?
Aditional information: Once you have tuned the KAT500 to a frequency, the tuner will use it's memory to tune to that frequency any time you return to it or near enough that a re- tune is not required. If, when RF is applied tuning is required, the tuner will activate automatically and re-tune. Both of my posts under this thread refer to the way my KAT500 behaves. Amateur Radio Operator N5GE ARRL Lifetime Member QCWA Lifetime Member "If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -- James Madison -- On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 08:27:15 -0800 (PST), KM4VX wrote: >I think we need further clarification. "Tapping" the ATU TUNE button on the >K3 just toggles between BYPASS and ATU. It does not force the KAT500 to >tune. Do you mean we should HOLD the XMIT button on the K3 to force the >KAT500 to tune or should we HOLD the ATU TUNE button on the K3 to force the >KAT500 to tune. I very much agree with the post that one button on the >KAT500 or one button on the K3 would be better than having to push a button >on both to tune. Of course we still want the KAT500 to memorize the >settings. Thanks __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500] Tune in KAT500 Utility software broken?
You DO NOT have to push two buttons to tune with the KAT500. Set the tune power for the K3 to 25W (See the manual for instructions). After doing that, holding the XMIT button will activate the tuner. When the KAT500 has finished tuning, tap the XMIT button to return to RX. In the Utility program: Tapping the TUNE button on the "Operate" tab tells the tuner that the next time you activate tuning it will do a completely new tuning cycle at the current frequency. This is useful if you have changed the antenna in such a way that it will need to be re-turned from scratch. 73, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE ARRL Lifetime Member QCWA Lifetime Member "The marvel of all history is the patience with which men and women submit to burdens unnecessarily laid upon them by their governments." -- George Washington -- On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 08:27:15 -0800 (PST), KM4VX wrote: >I think we need further clarification. "Tapping" the ATU TUNE button on the >K3 just toggles between BYPASS and ATU. It does not force the KAT500 to >tune. Do you mean we should HOLD the XMIT button on the K3 to force the >KAT500 to tune or should we HOLD the ATU TUNE button on the K3 to force the >KAT500 to tune. I very much agree with the post that one button on the >KAT500 or one button on the K3 would be better than having to push a button >on both to tune. Of course we still want the KAT500 to memorize the >settings. Thanks __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500] Tune in KAT500 Utility software broken?
On 12/5/2012 9:27 AM, KM4VX wrote: I think we need further clarification. "Tapping" the ATU TUNE button on the K3 just toggles between BYPASS and ATU. That's backwards Ron. Press and hold the ATU TUNE button to toggle the tuner state between the AUTO and BYPASS states. Tapping the ATU TUNE button causes the tuner to try to find a match if the tuner is enabled (AUTO). Gus Hansen KB0YH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500] Tune in KAT500 Utility software broken?
I think we need further clarification. "Tapping" the ATU TUNE button on the K3 just toggles between BYPASS and ATU. It does not force the KAT500 to tune. Do you mean we should HOLD the XMIT button on the K3 to force the KAT500 to tune or should we HOLD the ATU TUNE button on the K3 to force the KAT500 to tune. I very much agree with the post that one button on the KAT500 or one button on the K3 would be better than having to push a button on both to tune. Of course we still want the KAT500 to memorize the settings. Thanks -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KAT500-Tune-in-KAT500-Utility-software-broken-tp7566649p7566717.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500] Tune in KAT500 Utility software broken?
I take it that pressing the K3 Tune sends RF to invoke the KAT to tune by nature of receiving the RF. Not that the KAT is triggered into Tune by a digital signal thru a cable. Looking forward to getting KAT500. Thanks, Chuck, KE9UW Lionel Trains, TCA, LCCA, LRRC aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles BMWMOA #224 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] on behalf of Fred Smith [m...@mo-net.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 1:52 AM To: 'Wayne Burdick'; 'John_N1JM' Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500] Tune in KAT500 Utility software broken? Wayne That is what I was hoping for to make it very erasy when connected to the other units. Thanks for that, will be looking forward to it. Thx & 73 Fred/N0AZZ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 6:39 PM To: John_N1JM Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500] Tune in KAT500 Utility software broken? The intent is for this to work the other way: tapping the K3's ATU TUNE button with a KAT500 connected will invoke TUNE at the KAT500. Wayne N6KR On Dec 4, 2012, at 9:06 AM, John_N1JM wrote: > It's would have been nice to have the the tune button on the KAT500 to > also put the K3 into the tune mode. I am too lazy to push 2 buttons > :-). > > 73, > John N1JM > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KAT500-Tune-in-KAT500-Utility-sof > tware-broken-tp7566649p7566675.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500] Tune in KAT500 Utility software broken?
Wayne That is what I was hoping for to make it very erasy when connected to the other units. Thanks for that, will be looking forward to it. Thx & 73 Fred/N0AZZ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 6:39 PM To: John_N1JM Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500] Tune in KAT500 Utility software broken? The intent is for this to work the other way: tapping the K3's ATU TUNE button with a KAT500 connected will invoke TUNE at the KAT500. Wayne N6KR On Dec 4, 2012, at 9:06 AM, John_N1JM wrote: > It's would have been nice to have the the tune button on the KAT500 to > also put the K3 into the tune mode. I am too lazy to push 2 buttons > :-). > > 73, > John N1JM > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KAT500-Tune-in-KAT500-Utility-sof > tware-broken-tp7566649p7566675.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500] Tune in KAT500 Utility software broken?
Either way would be fine :-). John N1JM The intent is for this to work the other way: tapping the K3's ATU TUNE button with a KAT500 connected will invoke TUNE at the KAT500. Wayne N6KR -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KAT500-Tune-in-KAT500-Utility-software-broken-tp7566649p7566695.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500] Tune in KAT500 Utility software broken?
The intent is for this to work the other way: tapping the K3's ATU TUNE button with a KAT500 connected will invoke TUNE at the KAT500. Wayne N6KR On Dec 4, 2012, at 9:06 AM, John_N1JM wrote: It's would have been nice to have the the tune button on the KAT500 to also put the K3 into the tune mode. I am too lazy to push 2 buttons :-). 73, John N1JM -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KAT500-Tune-in-KAT500-Utility-software-broken-tp7566649p7566675.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500] Tune in KAT500 Utility software broken?
I thought if you just press the K3 tune button, the tuner sees less than the required SWR and tunes. One button? Sent from my iPad Chuck, KE9UW (Jack for BMW motorcycles) On Dec 4, 2012, at 11:06 AM, "John_N1JM" wrote: > It's would have been nice to have the the tune button on the KAT500 to also > put the K3 into the tune mode. I am too lazy to push 2 buttons :-). > > 73, > John N1JM > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KAT500-Tune-in-KAT500-Utility-software-broken-tp7566649p7566675.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500] Tune in KAT500 Utility software broken?
It's would have been nice to have the the tune button on the KAT500 to also put the K3 into the tune mode. I am too lazy to push 2 buttons :-). 73, John N1JM -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KAT500-Tune-in-KAT500-Utility-software-broken-tp7566649p7566675.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500] Tune in KAT500 Utility software broken?
You need to provide a 10 watt signal to tune. The mode LED blinks while waiting for sufficient signal to tune. 73 de Dick, K6KR On Dec 3, 2012, at 18:53, Sam Morgan wrote: > In the KAT500 Help file it says: > Click the KAT500 Utility Tune button or press the KAT500 front panel TUNE > button to start a "full tune". > > With If I click Tune in the KAT500 Utility (with the KAT500 set to AUTO) > the KAT500 AUTO LED starts flashing > but nothing happens > *until* I *also* HOLD in the [TUNE] button on the K3 > > this also happens if I do the same thing (with the KAT500 set to MAN) > and click on Tune in the KAT500 Utility > the KAT500 MAN LED starts flashing > but nothing happens > *until* I *also* HOLD the [TUNE] button on the K3 > > I can just HOLD in the [TUNE] button > and the KAT500 will go into tune and will seek a new sweet spot > > so is the Tune in the KAT500 Utility software broken, > or am I doing something wrong? > -- > > GB & 73 > K5OAI > Sam Morgan > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
