Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

2017-04-04 Thread Bill Breeden 


I can't say enough good things about a CrankIR vertical either. Have 
used mine for Field Day and two NPOTA activations and it worked great.  
Even had it installed over my permanent radial field for about a month 
while my SteppIR vertical was being repaired after some wind damage.


73,

Bill - NA5DX

On 4/4/2017 10:09 AM, Brian Pietrzyk wrote:

If you want to be sure you'll have a successful outing with the declining band 
conditions you could consider a crankIR.
  
Its not the lightest or easiest to deploy but it could very well be the best performing portable self supporting antenna out there. Once set up its fully resonant on your band of choice and easy to change bands.  I stripped mine down for 40-6m at 10lbs and fit in a charter sized suite case on a recent trip to HI9 land.


With the kx3 running 10w I rarely had to call CQ more then 3 times and was 
creating pileups. Its large footprint does attract a bit of attention on the 
beach and most folks thought I was setting up a deep sea fishing rod (its a 
real chick magnet lol).  Theres definitely no performance compromise with this 
portable antenna if you can tolerate the extra weight and setup time.

I also tried the random wire in a tree one afternoon there which worked 
surprisingly well too but had to work a lot harder for contacts. This was all 
SSB.

Brian ve3bwp

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AntennaPole for KX3
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Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna for KX3

Going to Hawaii with KX3 from high rise Hotels and some Sandy Beaches
that is lightweight, easy to deploy, carry on Airlines or packed into luggage.

Any Portable Poles to recommend for End Fed Antenna's

My MFJ-1920 pole is 3.8ft when collapsed and extends to 33 feet
but when Island Hopping, 3.8ft does not qualify as a Carry On due to it's length
So hit with extra baggage fee's

Maybe a Fishing pole that is on sections that not as long, when collapsed
would be the Answer, some 14ft to 17 feet Crappie Fishing poles only
breakdown to 46inches to 48inches, about the collapsed length of my
MFJ-1910 fiberglass telescopic mast

Mike
WB6DJI

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Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

2017-04-03 Thread bill steffey 

for a trip to  F & OE   I had two hanks of wire and a par balun.
when we got to a highrise '3 day rental up 14 floors, I needed to get 
the long wires set off from the bldg.
The only thing I found was a broom pole...strapped to another broom 
pole  hanging out on a shutter


story " Four Pound DXpedition"  and pictures .. on page 8

worked stateside ( N3TIR on a K3 another elecraft list member )  & others...

bill

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Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

2017-04-03 Thread Doug Turnbull 
Dear OMs and YLs,
 The problem with poles is that even at four feet they are cumbersome to
take on planes.They also are obtrusive when installed.   The AlexLoop or
magnetic loop antenna on the other hand does not even require a pole and is
unobtrusive.   It can be used inside a frame or brick building though is not
so good in a steel structure though if close to a big window might do some
good and certainly is happy on a balcony.  If you have a roof garden that is
nice for operating outside your room.  For travel the AlexLoop is very hard
to beat.

  Now if staying with my brother I look for my end fed dipole and run it
about twelve to fifteen feet above ground and yes it will outperform the
AlexLoop.   Still you will make QSOs and plenty of them with the AlexLoop
running 5 Watts and using CW.   I can not testify as to effectiveness with
SSB.

  If you want a short four foot long pole for the AlexLoop and this is
not necessary then use a broom stick possibly whittled down at one end.
You can also take some fibreglass tube cut it into three sixteen foot length
and use two wooden dowels to join the three sections.   The dowels are
whittled down for a nice snug fit.

   When operating from a hotel it is best to be unobtrusive. That is for
certain.   It is all good fun.

  73 Doug EI2CN

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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of rich
hurd WC3T
Sent: 02 April 2017 23:42
To: Michael Aust; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and
Antenna Pole for KX3

A Shakespeare WonderPole. 20' extended,
collapses to 4'.

$21 at Walmart.


On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 4:25 PM Michael Aust  wrote:

> Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna for KX3
>
>
> Going to Hawaii with KX3 from high rise Hotels and some Sandy Beaches
> that is lightweight, easy to deploy, carry on Airlines or packed into
> luggage.
>
>
> Any Portable Poles to recommend for End Fed Antenna's
>
>
> My MFJ-1920 pole is 3.8ft when collapsed and extends to 33 feet
> but when Island Hopping, 3.8ft does not qualify as a Carry On due to it's
> length
> So hit with extra baggage fee's
>
>
> Maybe a Fishing pole that is on sections that not as long, when collapsed
> would be the Answer, some 14ft to 17 feet Crappie Fishing poles only
> breakdown to 46inches to 48inches, about the collapsed length of my
> MFJ-1910 fiberglass telescopic mast
>
>
> Mike
>
> WB6DJI
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

2017-04-02 Thread Igor Sokolov 

As far as fiberglass poles are please check here:

http://www.dx-wire.de/index.php?seo_c=lng%2Fen%2F=fiberglass-poles

73, Igor UA9CDC


03.04.2017 9:03, Matt Zilmer пишет:
I use an OCF dipole and usually throw the longend intoa tree if there 
is one nearby.  With no trees about, I'd use a 25 to 41 foot random 
wire w/ counterpoise on the ground.  Once, I had to ask permission to 
"cast" the OCF's long end over a gas station sign in Pu'unene, and got 
a thumbs up [stuck there with "talk story" from XYL's relatives].  
Sometimes, you have to get creative, and sometimes, beg for a high 
spot.  In tourist QTHs, sometimes your eccentric request will get a 
good response - tourists are odd ducks for the locals, anywhere.


Wire antennas work a lot better than verticals, esp. portable. Slopers 
are fine too.  Anything you can tune with your ATU.


Best HI portable ops I ever experienced were near Ka'anapali, using a 
random wire dangled from a rock cliff near the Sheraton Black Rock and 
pulled down to the _veryrocky_ beach nearby.  It took a while to set 
up, but didn't have to ask for permission either. Beaches in HI are 
all public access, theoretically. You may be able to use that to your 
advantage.


73,

matt W6NIA


On 4/2/2017 1:25 PM, Michael Aust wrote:

Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna for KX3


Going to Hawaii with KX3 from high rise Hotels and some Sandy Beaches
that is lightweight, easy to deploy, carry on Airlines or packed into 
luggage.



Any Portable Poles to recommend for End Fed Antenna's


My MFJ-1920 pole is 3.8ft when collapsed and extends to 33 feet
but when Island Hopping, 3.8ft does not qualify as a Carry On due to 
it's length

So hit with extra baggage fee's


Maybe a Fishing pole that is on sections that not as long, when 
collapsed

would be the Answer, some 14ft to 17 feet Crappie Fishing poles only
breakdown to 46inches to 48inches, about the collapsed length of my
MFJ-1910 fiberglass telescopic mast


Mike

WB6DJI


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Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

2017-04-02 Thread Matt Zilmer 
I use an OCF dipole and usually throw the longend intoa tree if there is 
one nearby.  With no trees about, I'd use a 25 to 41 foot random wire w/ 
counterpoise on the ground.  Once, I had to ask permission to "cast" the 
OCF's long end over a gas station sign in Pu'unene, and got a thumbs up 
[stuck there with "talk story" from XYL's relatives].  Sometimes, you 
have to get creative, and sometimes, beg for a high spot.  In tourist 
QTHs, sometimes your eccentric request will get a good response - 
tourists are odd ducks for the locals, anywhere.


Wire antennas work a lot better than verticals, esp. portable. Slopers 
are fine too.  Anything you can tune with your ATU.


Best HI portable ops I ever experienced were near Ka'anapali, using a 
random wire dangled from a rock cliff near the Sheraton Black Rock and 
pulled down to the _veryrocky_ beach nearby.  It took a while to set up, 
but didn't have to ask for permission either. Beaches in HI are all 
public access, theoretically. You may be able to use that to your advantage.


73,

matt W6NIA


On 4/2/2017 1:25 PM, Michael Aust wrote:

Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna for KX3


Going to Hawaii with KX3 from high rise Hotels and some Sandy Beaches
that is lightweight, easy to deploy, carry on Airlines or packed into luggage.


Any Portable Poles to recommend for End Fed Antenna's


My MFJ-1920 pole is 3.8ft when collapsed and extends to 33 feet
but when Island Hopping, 3.8ft does not qualify as a Carry On due to it's length
So hit with extra baggage fee's


Maybe a Fishing pole that is on sections that not as long, when collapsed
would be the Answer, some 14ft to 17 feet Crappie Fishing poles only
breakdown to 46inches to 48inches, about the collapsed length of my
MFJ-1910 fiberglass telescopic mast


Mike

WB6DJI


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Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

2017-04-02 Thread Bob Nielsen 
I once operated from a 7th floor hotel room with a W6MMA MP-1 (which 
Elecraft used to sell--the paint color on the coil matched my K2, which 
increased the mojo).  I placed it inside next to the window and made 
several contacts of 1000 - >3000 miles on 20m running 5W (propagation 
was much better than it has been recently).


Bob, N7XY


On 4/2/17 6:37 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Consider that some (many) hotel rooms have windows that will not open.
So when faced with that, do you break the window (not recommended) or 
operate from outside the building or operate with a loop placed inside 
the window glass.
In other words - it all depends.  Be prepared for all possible 
situations.  A mag loop and an end fed antenna with some sort of 
support pole seem to me to be the best combination.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/2/2017 9:22 PM, Michael Aust wrote:

Tom,
  Will be operating QRP with KX3 & Versa-Antenna & the 27ft poles at 
the Lagoon at the Disney Hotel in Wakikoloa

on the Big Island drinking Mai Tai's and working CW

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Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

2017-04-02 Thread kevino z 
Yes, the packtenna pole is amazing, I used it throughout Europe this past 
summer.   My European friends recognized it as one made in  Germany.
You can't go wrong with anything George and the Packtenna crew have. 

Another choice for hotel balconies that travels nicely is the AlexLoop. 

-Kevin (KK4YEL) 

-Kevin (KK4YEL) 


No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of 
electrons were terribly inconvenienced !

> On Apr 2, 2017, at 21:32, Dave Fugleberg  wrote:
> 
> I can vouch for the Packtenna one...I bought the last one they had brought
> to Dayton last year. Fits easily into a suitcase and extends to 10m.
>> On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 5:48 PM Bill Rowlett  wrote:
>> 
>> The MFJ 2286 Big Stick Vert. may be what you are looking for. Nocks down
>> to about 28” and extends to 18’
>> I have used it as a 20 meter GP. works well.
>> 
>> 73 Bill  KC4ATU
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 2, 2017, at 6:23 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> I bought a fiberglass kite pole made by Jackite, and sold at E-Commerce
>> sites everywhere.
>> 
>> Mine is 31' extended, between 3 and 4 feet collapsed.
>> 
>> 73 -- Lynn
>> 
>> On 4/2/2017 3:10 PM, Stephen Shearer wrote:
>> BTW...
>> 
>> http://www.sotabeams.co.uk/compact-light-weight-10-m-30-ft-mast/ is
>> cheaper from UK than US.  $63 + $30 (shipping - tracked) = ~$93
>> 
>> http://shop.packtenna.com/Masts-Supports_c_12.html $89 + $20 (shipping)...
>> 
>> 73, steve WB3LGC
>> 
>> 
>> On 4/2/2017 4:25 PM, Michael Aust wrote:
>> Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna for KX3
>> 
>> 
>> Going to Hawaii with KX3 from high rise Hotels and some Sandy Beaches
>> that is lightweight, easy to deploy, carry on Airlines or packed into
>> luggage.
>> 
>> 
>> Any Portable Poles to recommend for End Fed Antenna's
>> 
>> 
>> My MFJ-1920 pole is 3.8ft when collapsed and extends to 33 feet
>> but when Island Hopping, 3.8ft does not qualify as a Carry On due to
>> it's length
>> So hit with extra baggage fee's
>> 
>> 
>> Maybe a Fishing pole that is on sections that not as long, when collapsed
>> would be the Answer, some 14ft to 17 feet Crappie Fishing poles only
>> breakdown to 46inches to 48inches, about the collapsed length of my
>> MFJ-1910 fiberglass telescopic mast
>> 
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> WB6DJI
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

2017-04-02 Thread Fred Jensen 
Not that they are not a good solution, just be aware, most carbon fiber 
poles are conductive at RF.



73,

Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn



On 4/2/2017 4:38 PM, Tom Parish wrote:

Michael - Fred Maas KT5X suggested the following to me recently and it's
working well. $2.99 plus shipping from China. Worth the wait. Delivered
early. Comes with a small cloth case.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/262678511063

These are 3.6m-7.2m Carbon Fiber Stream Pole Telescopic Spinning Freshwater
Fishing Rod

25 inches - fits in a suit case just fine.  Very light - 10 ounces. Expands
to nearly 27 feet.  I don't use the last length.   I purchased two of them.

I use it with my KX2 and a 35ft and 43ft end fed antenna set up. Love it.

Tom

On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Michael Aust  wrote:


Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna for KX3


Going to Hawaii with KX3 from high rise Hotels and some Sandy Beaches
that is lightweight, easy to deploy, carry on Airlines or packed into
luggage.


Any Portable Poles to recommend for End Fed Antenna's


My MFJ-1920 pole is 3.8ft when collapsed and extends to 33 feet
but when Island Hopping, 3.8ft does not qualify as a Carry On due to it's
length
So hit with extra baggage fee's


Maybe a Fishing pole that is on sections that not as long, when collapsed
would be the Answer, some 14ft to 17 feet Crappie Fishing poles only
breakdown to 46inches to 48inches, about the collapsed length of my
MFJ-1910 fiberglass telescopic mast


Mike

WB6DJI


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Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

2017-04-02 Thread Don Wilhelm 

Consider that some (many) hotel rooms have windows that will not open.
So when faced with that, do you break the window (not recommended) or 
operate from outside the building or operate with a loop placed inside 
the window glass.
In other words - it all depends.  Be prepared for all possible 
situations.  A mag loop and an end fed antenna with some sort of support 
pole seem to me to be the best combination.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/2/2017 9:22 PM, Michael Aust wrote:

Tom,
  Will be operating QRP with KX3 & Versa-Antenna & the 27ft poles at the Lagoon 
at the Disney Hotel in Wakikoloa
on the Big Island drinking Mai Tai's and working CW

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Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

2017-04-02 Thread Dave Fugleberg 
I can vouch for the Packtenna one...I bought the last one they had brought
to Dayton last year. Fits easily into a suitcase and extends to 10m.
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 5:48 PM Bill Rowlett  wrote:

> The MFJ 2286 Big Stick Vert. may be what you are looking for. Nocks down
> to about 28” and extends to 18’
> I have used it as a 20 meter GP. works well.
>
> 73 Bill  KC4ATU
>
>
> On Apr 2, 2017, at 6:23 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
> > wrote:
>
> I bought a fiberglass kite pole made by Jackite, and sold at E-Commerce
> sites everywhere.
>
> Mine is 31' extended, between 3 and 4 feet collapsed.
>
> 73 -- Lynn
>
> On 4/2/2017 3:10 PM, Stephen Shearer wrote:
> BTW...
>
> http://www.sotabeams.co.uk/compact-light-weight-10-m-30-ft-mast/ is
> cheaper from UK than US.  $63 + $30 (shipping - tracked) = ~$93
>
> http://shop.packtenna.com/Masts-Supports_c_12.html $89 + $20 (shipping)...
>
> 73, steve WB3LGC
>
>
> On 4/2/2017 4:25 PM, Michael Aust wrote:
> Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna for KX3
>
>
> Going to Hawaii with KX3 from high rise Hotels and some Sandy Beaches
> that is lightweight, easy to deploy, carry on Airlines or packed into
> luggage.
>
>
> Any Portable Poles to recommend for End Fed Antenna's
>
>
> My MFJ-1920 pole is 3.8ft when collapsed and extends to 33 feet
> but when Island Hopping, 3.8ft does not qualify as a Carry On due to
> it's length
> So hit with extra baggage fee's
>
>
> Maybe a Fishing pole that is on sections that not as long, when collapsed
> would be the Answer, some 14ft to 17 feet Crappie Fishing poles only
> breakdown to 46inches to 48inches, about the collapsed length of my
> MFJ-1910 fiberglass telescopic mast
>
>
> Mike
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> WB6DJI
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Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

2017-04-02 Thread Michael Aust 
Tom,
  Will be operating QRP with KX3 & Versa-Antenna & the 27ft poles at the Lagoon 
at the Disney Hotel in Wakikoloa
on the Big Island drinking Mai Tai's and working CW 



Aloha
73
Mike
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-Original Message-
From: Michael Aust 
To: tom.parish ; elecraft 
Sent: Sun, Apr 2, 2017 6:14 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna 
Pole for KX3


Tom,
  
Just bought the last two 7.2mm poles, what a deal ! 


Will fit in my luggage fine to Hawaii with KX3 and my


EndFed Antenna made for the KX series radio's like the KX3 !


http://www.ebay.com/itm/End-Fed-QRP-antenna-for-Elecraft-K-KX-series-/152485477586?hash=item2380d7bcd2:g:KB0AAOSwUKxYaspN




Mike
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-Original Message-
From: Tom Parish 
To: Michael Aust ; elecraft 
Sent: Sun, Apr 2, 2017 4:39 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna 
Pole for KX3



Michael - Fred Maas KT5X suggested the following to me recently and it's 
working well. $2.99 plus shipping from China. Worth the wait. Delivered early. 
Comes with a small cloth case.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/262678511063



These are 3.6m-7.2m Carbon Fiber Stream Pole Telescopic Spinning Freshwater 
Fishing Rod   


25 inches - fits in a suit case just fine.  Very light - 10 ounces. Expands to 
nearly 27 feet.  I don't use the last length.   I purchased two of them.


I use it with my KX2 and a 35ft and 43ft end fed antenna set up. Love it.


Tom



On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Michael Aust  wrote:

Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna for KX3


Going to Hawaii with KX3 from high rise Hotels and some Sandy Beaches
that is lightweight, easy to deploy, carry on Airlines or packed into luggage.


Any Portable Poles to recommend for End Fed Antenna's


My MFJ-1920 pole is 3.8ft when collapsed and extends to 33 feet
but when Island Hopping, 3.8ft does not qualify as a Carry On due to it's length
So hit with extra baggage fee's


Maybe a Fishing pole that is on sections that not as long, when collapsed
would be the Answer, some 14ft to 17 feet Crappie Fishing poles only
breakdown to 46inches to 48inches, about the collapsed length of my
MFJ-1910 fiberglass telescopic mast


Mike

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Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

2017-04-02 Thread Michael Aust 
Tom,
  
Just bought the last two 7.2mm poles, what a deal ! 


Will fit in my luggage fine to Hawaii with KX3 and my


EndFed Antenna made for the KX series radio's like the KX3 !


http://www.ebay.com/itm/End-Fed-QRP-antenna-for-Elecraft-K-KX-series-/152485477586?hash=item2380d7bcd2:g:KB0AAOSwUKxYaspN




Mike
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-Original Message-
From: Tom Parish 
To: Michael Aust ; elecraft 
Sent: Sun, Apr 2, 2017 4:39 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna 
Pole for KX3



Michael - Fred Maas KT5X suggested the following to me recently and it's 
working well. $2.99 plus shipping from China. Worth the wait. Delivered early. 
Comes with a small cloth case.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/262678511063



These are 3.6m-7.2m Carbon Fiber Stream Pole Telescopic Spinning Freshwater 
Fishing Rod   


25 inches - fits in a suit case just fine.  Very light - 10 ounces. Expands to 
nearly 27 feet.  I don't use the last length.   I purchased two of them.


I use it with my KX2 and a 35ft and 43ft end fed antenna set up. Love it.


Tom



On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Michael Aust  wrote:

Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna for KX3


Going to Hawaii with KX3 from high rise Hotels and some Sandy Beaches
that is lightweight, easy to deploy, carry on Airlines or packed into luggage.


Any Portable Poles to recommend for End Fed Antenna's


My MFJ-1920 pole is 3.8ft when collapsed and extends to 33 feet
but when Island Hopping, 3.8ft does not qualify as a Carry On due to it's length
So hit with extra baggage fee's


Maybe a Fishing pole that is on sections that not as long, when collapsed
would be the Answer, some 14ft to 17 feet Crappie Fishing poles only
breakdown to 46inches to 48inches, about the collapsed length of my
MFJ-1910 fiberglass telescopic mast


Mike

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Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

2017-04-02 Thread sancho 
Mike, All,

I am with Fred on this call - particularly from a hi-rise hotel balcony at a 
resort. My best results have been with an Alex Walkham Magloop (has a nice 
small carry on bag that also fits in my suitcase) closely followed by the 
Superantenna MP-1 which fits in an old Targus laptop bag. I think some hotel 
management groups take poorly to 'fishing' off the 17th floor balcony of their 
prime ocean view tower. Last time I did that was the last time I'll ever try 
using an End Fed Vertical Wire hung from a fishing rod (it was a surfcaster)... 
even after dark. 

If I hadn't been a top tier frequent stay guest with the company, it might have 
gotten ugly. Some guest below reported me for dropping a camera to look into 
rooms... It was just a small weighted ball on the end of the wire. The manager 
was polite, but asked me not to do it. I was using the FT - 817 at the time so 
I luckily wound up only restricted to UHF/VHF ops and suffered a temporary 
reddened face. Glad it was a short stay.

Never had the problem with the other two antenna configurations.

Jack KD4IZ
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> On Apr 2, 2017, at 20:08, Fred Jensen  wrote:
> 
> ICYDK,
> 
> Crappie [n. KRAA-pee] A genus, pomoxis, of North American freshwater fish in 
> the sunfish family Centrarchidae.
> 
> Crappy [adj. KRAA-pee] 1. Of or denoting very inferior construction.  2. 
> Denoting any bad condition, object, utterance, or occurrence.
> 
> "Pole" is the operative word here, fish make very poor antennas and they 
> don't last very long, just as crappy crappie poles don't last long either. 
> [:-)
> 
> I'm still a mag loop fan after trying all the rest.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
> Sparks NV USA
> Washoe County DM09dn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 4/2/2017 1:54 PM, Scott McDonald via Elecraft wrote:
>> Hey Mike.
>> 
>> For a trip to ZF last month, I took several old Walmart crappie pole pieces 
>> and built a 22 foot mast by judiciously selecting and cutting pieces no 
>> longer than 28 inches so that the sections would stack and the disassembled 
>> antenna would fit diagonally in my suitcase.
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Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

2017-04-02 Thread Fred Jensen 

ICYDK,

Crappie [n. KRAA-pee] A genus, pomoxis, of North American freshwater 
fish in the sunfish family Centrarchidae.


Crappy [adj. KRAA-pee] 1. Of or denoting very inferior construction.  2. 
Denoting any bad condition, object, utterance, or occurrence.


"Pole" is the operative word here, fish make very poor antennas and they 
don't last very long, just as crappy crappie poles don't last long 
either. [:-)


I'm still a mag loop fan after trying all the rest.

73,

Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn





On 4/2/2017 1:54 PM, Scott McDonald via Elecraft wrote:

Hey Mike.

For a trip to ZF last month, I took several old Walmart crappie pole pieces and 
built a 22 foot mast by judiciously selecting and cutting pieces no longer than 
28 inches so that the sections would stack and the disassembled antenna would 
fit diagonally in my suitcase.


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Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

2017-04-02 Thread rich hurd WC3T 
A Shakespeare WonderPole. 20' extended,
collapses to 4'.

$21 at Walmart.


On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 4:25 PM Michael Aust  wrote:

> Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna for KX3
>
>
> Going to Hawaii with KX3 from high rise Hotels and some Sandy Beaches
> that is lightweight, easy to deploy, carry on Airlines or packed into
> luggage.
>
>
> Any Portable Poles to recommend for End Fed Antenna's
>
>
> My MFJ-1920 pole is 3.8ft when collapsed and extends to 33 feet
> but when Island Hopping, 3.8ft does not qualify as a Carry On due to it's
> length
> So hit with extra baggage fee's
>
>
> Maybe a Fishing pole that is on sections that not as long, when collapsed
> would be the Answer, some 14ft to 17 feet Crappie Fishing poles only
> breakdown to 46inches to 48inches, about the collapsed length of my
> MFJ-1910 fiberglass telescopic mast
>
>
> Mike
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Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

2017-04-02 Thread Tom Parish 
Michael - Fred Maas KT5X suggested the following to me recently and it's
working well. $2.99 plus shipping from China. Worth the wait. Delivered
early. Comes with a small cloth case.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/262678511063

These are 3.6m-7.2m Carbon Fiber Stream Pole Telescopic Spinning Freshwater
Fishing Rod

25 inches - fits in a suit case just fine.  Very light - 10 ounces. Expands
to nearly 27 feet.  I don't use the last length.   I purchased two of them.

I use it with my KX2 and a 35ft and 43ft end fed antenna set up. Love it.

Tom

On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 3:25 PM, Michael Aust  wrote:

> Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna for KX3
>
>
> Going to Hawaii with KX3 from high rise Hotels and some Sandy Beaches
> that is lightweight, easy to deploy, carry on Airlines or packed into
> luggage.
>
>
> Any Portable Poles to recommend for End Fed Antenna's
>
>
> My MFJ-1920 pole is 3.8ft when collapsed and extends to 33 feet
> but when Island Hopping, 3.8ft does not qualify as a Carry On due to it's
> length
> So hit with extra baggage fee's
>
>
> Maybe a Fishing pole that is on sections that not as long, when collapsed
> would be the Answer, some 14ft to 17 feet Crappie Fishing poles only
> breakdown to 46inches to 48inches, about the collapsed length of my
> MFJ-1910 fiberglass telescopic mast
>
>
> Mike
>
> WB6DJI
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Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

2017-04-02 Thread Bill Rowlett 
The MFJ 2286 Big Stick Vert. may be what you are looking for. Nocks down to 
about 28” and extends to 18’
I have used it as a 20 meter GP. works well.

73 Bill  KC4ATU


On Apr 2, 2017, at 6:23 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT 
> wrote:

I bought a fiberglass kite pole made by Jackite, and sold at E-Commerce sites 
everywhere.

Mine is 31' extended, between 3 and 4 feet collapsed.

73 -- Lynn

On 4/2/2017 3:10 PM, Stephen Shearer wrote:
BTW...

http://www.sotabeams.co.uk/compact-light-weight-10-m-30-ft-mast/ is
cheaper from UK than US.  $63 + $30 (shipping - tracked) = ~$93

http://shop.packtenna.com/Masts-Supports_c_12.html $89 + $20 (shipping)...

73, steve WB3LGC


On 4/2/2017 4:25 PM, Michael Aust wrote:
Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna for KX3


Going to Hawaii with KX3 from high rise Hotels and some Sandy Beaches
that is lightweight, easy to deploy, carry on Airlines or packed into
luggage.


Any Portable Poles to recommend for End Fed Antenna's


My MFJ-1920 pole is 3.8ft when collapsed and extends to 33 feet
but when Island Hopping, 3.8ft does not qualify as a Carry On due to
it's length
So hit with extra baggage fee's


Maybe a Fishing pole that is on sections that not as long, when collapsed
would be the Answer, some 14ft to 17 feet Crappie Fishing poles only
breakdown to 46inches to 48inches, about the collapsed length of my
MFJ-1910 fiberglass telescopic mast


Mike

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Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

2017-04-02 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT 
I bought a fiberglass kite pole made by Jackite, and sold at E-Commerce 
sites everywhere.


Mine is 31' extended, between 3 and 4 feet collapsed.

73 -- Lynn

On 4/2/2017 3:10 PM, Stephen Shearer wrote:

BTW...

http://www.sotabeams.co.uk/compact-light-weight-10-m-30-ft-mast/ is
cheaper from UK than US.  $63 + $30 (shipping - tracked) = ~$93

http://shop.packtenna.com/Masts-Supports_c_12.html $89 + $20 (shipping)...

73, steve WB3LGC


On 4/2/2017 4:25 PM, Michael Aust wrote:

Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna for KX3


Going to Hawaii with KX3 from high rise Hotels and some Sandy Beaches
that is lightweight, easy to deploy, carry on Airlines or packed into
luggage.


Any Portable Poles to recommend for End Fed Antenna's


My MFJ-1920 pole is 3.8ft when collapsed and extends to 33 feet
but when Island Hopping, 3.8ft does not qualify as a Carry On due to
it's length
So hit with extra baggage fee's


Maybe a Fishing pole that is on sections that not as long, when collapsed
would be the Answer, some 14ft to 17 feet Crappie Fishing poles only
breakdown to 46inches to 48inches, about the collapsed length of my
MFJ-1910 fiberglass telescopic mast


Mike

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Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

2017-04-02 Thread Stephen Shearer 

BTW...

http://www.sotabeams.co.uk/compact-light-weight-10-m-30-ft-mast/ is 
cheaper from UK than US.  $63 + $30 (shipping - tracked) = ~$93


http://shop.packtenna.com/Masts-Supports_c_12.html $89 + $20 (shipping)...

73, steve WB3LGC


On 4/2/2017 4:25 PM, Michael Aust wrote:

Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna for KX3


Going to Hawaii with KX3 from high rise Hotels and some Sandy Beaches
that is lightweight, easy to deploy, carry on Airlines or packed into luggage.


Any Portable Poles to recommend for End Fed Antenna's


My MFJ-1920 pole is 3.8ft when collapsed and extends to 33 feet
but when Island Hopping, 3.8ft does not qualify as a Carry On due to it's length
So hit with extra baggage fee's


Maybe a Fishing pole that is on sections that not as long, when collapsed
would be the Answer, some 14ft to 17 feet Crappie Fishing poles only
breakdown to 46inches to 48inches, about the collapsed length of my
MFJ-1910 fiberglass telescopic mast


Mike

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Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

2017-04-02 Thread Stephen Shearer 

http://shop.packtenna.com/Masts-Supports_c_12.html

73, steve


On 4/2/2017 4:25 PM, Michael Aust wrote:

Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna for KX3


Going to Hawaii with KX3 from high rise Hotels and some Sandy Beaches
that is lightweight, easy to deploy, carry on Airlines or packed into luggage.


Any Portable Poles to recommend for End Fed Antenna's


My MFJ-1920 pole is 3.8ft when collapsed and extends to 33 feet
but when Island Hopping, 3.8ft does not qualify as a Carry On due to it's length
So hit with extra baggage fee's


Maybe a Fishing pole that is on sections that not as long, when collapsed
would be the Answer, some 14ft to 17 feet Crappie Fishing poles only
breakdown to 46inches to 48inches, about the collapsed length of my
MFJ-1910 fiberglass telescopic mast


Mike

WB6DJI


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Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

2017-04-02 Thread Stephen Shearer 

http://www.sotabeams.co.uk/compact-light-weight-10-m-30-ft-mast/


On 4/2/2017 4:25 PM, Michael Aust wrote:

Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna for KX3


Going to Hawaii with KX3 from high rise Hotels and some Sandy Beaches
that is lightweight, easy to deploy, carry on Airlines or packed into luggage.


Any Portable Poles to recommend for End Fed Antenna's


My MFJ-1920 pole is 3.8ft when collapsed and extends to 33 feet
but when Island Hopping, 3.8ft does not qualify as a Carry On due to it's length
So hit with extra baggage fee's


Maybe a Fishing pole that is on sections that not as long, when collapsed
would be the Answer, some 14ft to 17 feet Crappie Fishing poles only
breakdown to 46inches to 48inches, about the collapsed length of my
MFJ-1910 fiberglass telescopic mast


Mike

WB6DJI


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Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

2017-04-02 Thread Michael Aust 
Did you have to put metal ferrels to join the pieces
Anyway you can send me a picture of it.

Mike
WB6DJI 




-Original Message-
From: Scott McDonald 
To: Michael Aust 
Cc: elecraft 
Sent: Sun, Apr 2, 2017 1:54 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna 
Pole for KX3

Hey Mike.

For a trip to ZF last month, I took several old Walmart crappie pole pieces and 
built a 22 foot mast by judiciously selecting and cutting pieces no longer than 
28 inches so that the sections would stack and the disassembled antenna would 
fit diagonally in my suitcase.   

I'm hoping that has forever solved the air transport of fiberglass mast 
problem.  Its not as bulky as it might seem because the narrower pieces stow 
easily inside the wider ones.  And Walmart crappie poles aren't exactly heavy 
duty.

I did find that unless you are good with puzzles, it is a really good idea to 
number the sections in order of assembly.  Don't ask..

As far as high rises go, if you can get a wire 6 feet out and drop it 
vertically it can be an amazing low band antenna - you need a weight on the 
bottom that can't hurt anyone, like a hotel size plastic shampoo bottle or a 
small bean bag like the tree maintenance guys use, and if you land the weight 
on the ground somewhere out of the way, rather than letting it swing or be near 
a pedestrian pathway, you are much better off.  In that case some monofilament 
for the last ten feet or so keeps the rf away from whatever is there on the 
ground.  My kx3 rarely has any trouble tuning that set up if you throw a 
counterpoise wire around the balcony or can ground to a railing.

Have fun.

Scott ka9p

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 2, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Michael Aust  wrote:
> 
> Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna for KX3 
> 
> 
> Going to Hawaii with KX3 from high rise Hotels and some Sandy Beaches
> that is lightweight, easy to deploy, carry on Airlines or packed into luggage.
> 
> 
> Any Portable Poles to recommend for End Fed Antenna's
> 
> 
> My MFJ-1920 pole is 3.8ft when collapsed and extends to 33 feet
> but when Island Hopping, 3.8ft does not qualify as a Carry On due to it's 
> length
> So hit with extra baggage fee's 
> 
> 
> Maybe a Fishing pole that is on sections that not as long, when collapsed 
> would be the Answer, some 14ft to 17 feet Crappie Fishing poles only 
> breakdown to 46inches to 48inches, about the collapsed length of my 
> MFJ-1910 fiberglass telescopic mast 
> 
> 
> Mike
> 
> WB6DJI
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

2017-04-02 Thread Fred Jensen 
"Great" and "QRP" in the same sentence is an oxymoron if QRP implies 
portable packed in by a human. [:-)  About the "best" I've found for 
other than Class 4 mountaineering is a small mag loop.  I use an 
Alexloop [a little pricey] but they are easy to build for very little 
expense.  If you do choose to build one:


1.  Voltages/Circulating currents can be surprisingly high in loops, 
even at QRP.


2.  Use a capacitor with a 10:1 reduction on the shaft.  They get real 
touchy on 20 and below.


73,

Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn



On 4/2/2017 1:25 PM, Michael Aust wrote:

Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna for KX3


Going to Hawaii with KX3 from high rise Hotels and some Sandy Beaches
that is lightweight, easy to deploy, carry on Airlines or packed into luggage.


Any Portable Poles to recommend for End Fed Antenna's


My MFJ-1920 pole is 3.8ft when collapsed and extends to 33 feet
but when Island Hopping, 3.8ft does not qualify as a Carry On due to it's length
So hit with extra baggage fee's


Maybe a Fishing pole that is on sections that not as long, when collapsed
would be the Answer, some 14ft to 17 feet Crappie Fishing poles only
breakdown to 46inches to 48inches, about the collapsed length of my
MFJ-1910 fiberglass telescopic mast


Mike

WB6DJI


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Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

2017-04-02 Thread Scott McDonald via Elecraft 
Hey Mike.

For a trip to ZF last month, I took several old Walmart crappie pole pieces and 
built a 22 foot mast by judiciously selecting and cutting pieces no longer than 
28 inches so that the sections would stack and the disassembled antenna would 
fit diagonally in my suitcase.   

I'm hoping that has forever solved the air transport of fiberglass mast 
problem.  Its not as bulky as it might seem because the narrower pieces stow 
easily inside the wider ones.  And Walmart crappie poles aren't exactly heavy 
duty.

I did find that unless you are good with puzzles, it is a really good idea to 
number the sections in order of assembly.  Don't ask..

As far as high rises go, if you can get a wire 6 feet out and drop it 
vertically it can be an amazing low band antenna - you need a weight on the 
bottom that can't hurt anyone, like a hotel size plastic shampoo bottle or a 
small bean bag like the tree maintenance guys use, and if you land the weight 
on the ground somewhere out of the way, rather than letting it swing or be near 
a pedestrian pathway, you are much better off.  In that case some monofilament 
for the last ten feet or so keeps the rf away from whatever is there on the 
ground.  My kx3 rarely has any trouble tuning that set up if you throw a 
counterpoise wire around the balcony or can ground to a railing.

Have fun.

Scott ka9p

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 2, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Michael Aust  wrote:
> 
> Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna for KX3 
> 
> 
> Going to Hawaii with KX3 from high rise Hotels and some Sandy Beaches
> that is lightweight, easy to deploy, carry on Airlines or packed into luggage.
> 
> 
> Any Portable Poles to recommend for End Fed Antenna's
> 
> 
> My MFJ-1920 pole is 3.8ft when collapsed and extends to 33 feet
> but when Island Hopping, 3.8ft does not qualify as a Carry On due to it's 
> length
> So hit with extra baggage fee's 
> 
> 
> Maybe a Fishing pole that is on sections that not as long, when collapsed 
> would be the Answer, some 14ft to 17 feet Crappie Fishing poles only 
> breakdown to 46inches to 48inches, about the collapsed length of my 
> MFJ-1910 fiberglass telescopic mast 
> 
> 
> Mike
> 
> WB6DJI
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

2017-04-02 Thread Kevin - K4VD 
​End fed... I can throw it up about anywhere I go at a moment's notice and
make CW contacts at 5 watts with little effort. It packs small, works in
pretty much any position, easily repaired, fits in a camera bag with the
radio, battery and everything else needed for a day of fun.

Yesterday I was at Mason Neck WWFF KFF-1308. Dragged one end up a tree
almost vertical, ran between 3 and 10 watts and worked 14 stations
including Belgium with minimal effort. Time from start of setup to on the
air maybe 10 or 15 minutes.

Whatever other antenna you may find, it still might be worth bringing an
end fed along.

Kev K4VD
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