Re: [Elecraft] Chasing the Update Mods Train?
Eric, W3DQ wrote: I bought an early K3 (s/n 525). I believe I know which mods were done (everything through September/October 2009), but I'm not sure exactly sure of it, nor where the previous owner stopped, where I should pick up and what is worth or not worth doing. Eric, if the K3 does not have the new DSP board (See K3DSPIPGD) you probably would be well served to send the rig to Elecraft and let them do a complete check and update. If you do that, you will have a good-as-new rig, plus the wait for an upgrade DSP may still be longer than for an entire rig turnaround. In any event contact Elecraft Support. 73, Fred, AE6IC, K3 2241 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Chasing the Update Mods Train?
Eric, Most of the K3 mod instructions contain some method of determining whether they have been applied or not. I would suggest you go the the Elecraft website and download the instructions for all the mods, and then check your K3. For some of the mods, you will have to do a physical inspection to determine if it has been installed, but for others a quick check with a DMM will give you the answer. 73, Don W3FPR Eric Rosenberg wrote: I bought an early K3 (s/n 525). I believe I know which mods were done (everything through September/October 2009), but I'm not sure exactly sure of it, nor where the previous owner stopped, where I should pick up and what is worth or not worth doing. Any advice on how to figure out the next steps to take is greatly appreciated! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Chasing the Update Mods Train?
For the K3, there are now close to 20 upgrade bulletins from Elecraft. It may make sense to number the bulletins in Collins fashion (e.g., SB-1). It's a lot easier to track and document changes by number, rather than descriptions. Owners and Elecraft Service could then document installed bulletins with a label affixed to the rear of the K3. Paul, W9AC - Original Message - From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com To: Eric Rosenberg ericrosenberg...@gmail.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Chasing the Update Mods Train? Eric, Most of the K3 mod instructions contain some method of determining whether they have been applied or not. I would suggest you go the the Elecraft website and download the instructions for all the mods, and then check your K3. For some of the mods, you will have to do a physical inspection to determine if it has been installed, but for others a quick check with a DMM will give you the answer. 73, Don W3FPR Eric Rosenberg wrote: I bought an early K3 (s/n 525). I believe I know which mods were done (everything through September/October 2009), but I'm not sure exactly sure of it, nor where the previous owner stopped, where I should pick up and what is worth or not worth doing. Any advice on how to figure out the next steps to take is greatly appreciated! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Chasing the Update Mods Train?
Another thought -- perhaps documented bulletin numbers could be uploaded through the K3's utility program and saved in the K3's EEPROM rather than rely on sticky label technology. Then, it's just a matter of polling the rig to see what's been changed. Of course, the accuracy of what's really been changed is only as good as the accuracy of what's being input by the owner or Elecraft Service. Pau, W9AC - Original Message - From: Paul Christensen w...@arrl.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Chasing the Update Mods Train? For the K3, there are now close to 20 upgrade bulletins from Elecraft. It may make sense to number the bulletins in Collins fashion (e.g., SB-1). It's a lot easier to track and document changes by number, rather than descriptions. Owners and Elecraft Service could then document installed bulletins with a label affixed to the rear of the K3. Paul, W9AC - Original Message - From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com To: Eric Rosenberg ericrosenberg...@gmail.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Chasing the Update Mods Train? Eric, Most of the K3 mod instructions contain some method of determining whether they have been applied or not. I would suggest you go the the Elecraft website and download the instructions for all the mods, and then check your K3. For some of the mods, you will have to do a physical inspection to determine if it has been installed, but for others a quick check with a DMM will give you the answer. 73, Don W3FPR Eric Rosenberg wrote: I bought an early K3 (s/n 525). I believe I know which mods were done (everything through September/October 2009), but I'm not sure exactly sure of it, nor where the previous owner stopped, where I should pick up and what is worth or not worth doing. Any advice on how to figure out the next steps to take is greatly appreciated! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Chasing the Update Mods Train?
Great idea, Paul! I would like to see Elecraft adopt this as well! Thanks for the suggestion! 73 de Greg-N4CC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Paul Christensen Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 8:07 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Chasing the Update Mods Train? For the K3, there are now close to 20 upgrade bulletins from Elecraft. It may make sense to number the bulletins in Collins fashion (e.g., SB-1). It's a lot easier to track and document changes by number, rather than descriptions. Owners and Elecraft Service could then document installed bulletins with a label affixed to the rear of the K3. Paul, W9AC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Chasing the Update Mods Train?
Excellent idea. I would like to see that across all products including the K1 - K3, the W2, etc. 73, K1NR On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 08:51:08 -0600 Greg n...@cableone.net wrote: Great idea, Paul! I would like to see Elecraft adopt this as well! Thanks for the suggestion! 73 de Greg-N4CC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Paul Christensen Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 8:07 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Chasing the Update Mods Train? For the K3, there are now close to 20 upgrade bulletins from Elecraft. It may make sense to number the bulletins in Collins fashion (e.g., SB-1). It's a lot easier to track and document changes by number, rather than descriptions. Owners and Elecraft Service could then document installed bulletins with a label affixed to the rear of the K3. Paul, W9AC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Chasing the Update Mods Train?
The problem with stickers or EEPROM records is that the K3 is modular. What if a KIO3 is replaced? Or the DSP board swapped? or... Since the mods are applied to various boards, you really need to track them board by board. It quickly becomes very cumbersome to manage and ensure accuracy. Most mods can be quickly determined by inspection. 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Chasing the Update Mods Train?
Lyle, But if the mod is referenced by service bulletin number (e.g., SB-1), that would capture the multiple changes across several boards. For example, the existing 20 bulletins are already defined -- we know the scope of change. Simply number them. If more than one similar change is designed to the same board, simply call it another bulletin number. This can be as simple (sure, easy for me to say) as adding a comment field through the utility program that could look like this: Elecraft Bulletins added: 1-6, 8, 12-20 I am not sure that data collected for board swap-outs or repairs is all that necessary. I'm referring to the self-documentation of service bulletins that could help existing and prospective K3 owners in a number of ways. If there's enough space for a bit of text, user comments could also be placed there. For example, non-approved bulletins, repairs, etc. A text field could capture a direct board swap-out like you mentioned. Some auto manufacturers already do something similar to track prior service work polled from the car's memory. My service department at Acura knows what's been done to my TL by polling it. You raise an interesting point, but I'm sure it could be managed with some forethought. I'm also not advocating that it take precedence over the existing user wish lists but something that could be added down on the priority list of new features. Paul, W9AC t - Original Message - From: Lyle Johnson k...@wavecable.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Chasing the Update Mods Train? The problem with stickers or EEPROM records is that the K3 is modular. What if a KIO3 is replaced? Or the DSP board swapped? or... Since the mods are applied to various boards, you really need to track them board by board. It quickly becomes very cumbersome to manage and ensure accuracy. Most mods can be quickly determined by inspection. 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Chasing the Update Mods Train?
Lyle: I also second Paul's suggestion - I fact I made this same recommendation to number the various changes / modifications a number of months ago, but nothing seems to have come of it. Before retirement, I spent most of my career with the Collins Canada Div of Rockwell and was involved with many of their Ham radio products (most noteably the KWM / HF -380) and they all had their service modifications / bulletins numbered. It made referring to them and keeping track of the status of an individual radio much easier. (Part of the difficulty for the K3 (and perhaps other Elecraft products) is that the title and description that is used for an individual change isn't consistent from place to place in the various documents or on the web site.) The use of SB-XX would be unambiguous (and its much shorter). Request that this be numbering request be reconsidered. Thanks 73 Doug Joyce, VE3MV From: w...@arrl.net To: k...@wavecable.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 13:55:23 -0400 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Chasing the Update Mods Train? Lyle, But if the mod is referenced by service bulletin number (e.g., SB-1), that would capture the multiple changes across several boards. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
