Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

[Bob Darlington]

Yes, that was it.  I just tested it and sure enough it's the power supply.
I had the idea that it might be the supply only being noisy under load and
that was it.  Confirmed.  The Pi makes the S meter move too, but not
anywhere near what this thing is doing.  Time to get a new supply I guess.

Sorry for reducing the SNR.

-Bob

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Nate Bargmann  wrote:

> * On 2016 23 May 17:05 -0500, Bob Darlington wrote:
> > Hey, a little OT, but I discovered today that my raspberry pi took my
> noise
> > floor from S9 constant (with some peaks higher) down to an S4 with peaks
> > around S5 once I unplugged it.  These things are BAD.  I can't vouch for
> > the r-pi 2 or 3 but I can say that my APRS digipeater is now off the air
> > because of it till I get everything into a shielded metal enclosure.
>
> Actually, I found the wall wart one uses makes a lot of difference.  I
> had a couple to choose from and chose the one that was least noisy.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

[Nate Bargmann]

* On 2016 23 May 17:05 -0500, Bob Darlington wrote:
> Hey, a little OT, but I discovered today that my raspberry pi took my noise
> floor from S9 constant (with some peaks higher) down to an S4 with peaks
> around S5 once I unplugged it.  These things are BAD.  I can't vouch for
> the r-pi 2 or 3 but I can say that my APRS digipeater is now off the air
> because of it till I get everything into a shielded metal enclosure.

Actually, I found the wall wart one uses makes a lot of difference.  I
had a couple to choose from and chose the one that was least noisy.

73, Nate, N0NB

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Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

[Rick WA6NHC]

I'd bet that the location of the file, while running as admin, is not in 
the place when the program is run normally.


Rick nhc


On 5/23/2016 5:55 PM, Paul Christensen wrote:

NR4C gets the gold star.  Fldigi opens fine and syncs with the K3 when "Run
as Administrator." The configuration file was saved as Administrator.

But the reason is?

Paul, W9AC

-Original Message-
From: Nr4c [mailto:n...@widomaker.com]
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 6:44 PM
To: Paul Christensen <w...@arrl.net>
Cc: Jerry Moore <je...@carolinaheli.com>; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

Where is fldigi software located on your computer?  You must have Write
privileges to save the CONFIG files.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill



On May 23, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Paul Christensen <w...@arrl.net> wrote:

Dave,

Correct.  I must always initialize Fldigi with my K3.  Once
initialized, it's works fine.  If I close it and re-open, initializing is

needed again.

Paul, W9AC


On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 13:19 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote:
Jerry,

Thanks for the tip.  I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no simple
solution available.

Paul, W9AC

Paul,

If I understand you correctly, you set things up in FLDigi, get them
working, and then if you close the program, and restart it, the rig is
no longer controlled.  Is that correct?



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Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

[Paul Christensen]

NR4C gets the gold star.  Fldigi opens fine and syncs with the K3 when "Run
as Administrator." The configuration file was saved as Administrator.

But the reason is?

Paul, W9AC

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 6:44 PM
To: Paul Christensen <w...@arrl.net>
Cc: Jerry Moore <je...@carolinaheli.com>; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

Where is fldigi software located on your computer?  You must have Write
privileges to save the CONFIG files. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On May 23, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Paul Christensen <w...@arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> Dave,
> 
> Correct.  I must always initialize Fldigi with my K3.  Once 
> initialized, it's works fine.  If I close it and re-open, initializing is
needed again.
> 
> Paul, W9AC
> 
>> On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 13:19 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote:
>> Jerry,
>> 
>> Thanks for the tip.  I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no simple 
>> solution available.
>> 
>> Paul, W9AC
> 
> Paul,
> 
> If I understand you correctly, you set things up in FLDigi, get them 
> working, and then if you close the program, and restart it, the rig is 
> no longer controlled.  Is that correct?
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

[Nr4c]

Where is fldigi software located on your computer?  You must have Write 
privileges to save the CONFIG files. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On May 23, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Paul Christensen  wrote:
> 
> Dave,
> 
> Correct.  I must always initialize Fldigi with my K3.  Once initialized,
> it's works fine.  If I close it and re-open, initializing is needed again.
> 
> Paul, W9AC
> 
>> On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 13:19 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote:
>> Jerry,
>> 
>> Thanks for the tip.  I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no simple
>> solution available.  
>> 
>> Paul, W9AC
> 
> Paul,
> 
> If I understand you correctly, you set things up in FLDigi, get them
> working, and then if you close the program, and restart it, the rig is
> no longer controlled.  Is that correct?
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

[Bob Darlington]

Hey, a little OT, but I discovered today that my raspberry pi took my noise
floor from S9 constant (with some peaks higher) down to an S4 with peaks
around S5 once I unplugged it.  These things are BAD.  I can't vouch for
the r-pi 2 or 3 but I can say that my APRS digipeater is now off the air
because of it till I get everything into a shielded metal enclosure.

-Bob

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Jerry Moore  wrote:

> I run on a raspberry pi under linux. Hardware Comm
>
>
>
> On May 23, 2016 5:17:53 PM EDT, Bob Darlington 
> wrote:
>>
>> Are you using virtual com port software that's not up and running before
>> you start fldigi?  Are you saying "yes" to the save settings popup when
>> closing after you fix the problem?
>>
>> -Bob
>>
>> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Paul Christensen  wrote:
>>
>>> Dave,
>>>
>>> Correct.  I must always initialize Fldigi with my K3.  Once initialized,
>>> it's works fine.  If I close it and re-open, initializing is needed
>>> again.
>>>
>>> Paul, W9AC
>>>
>>> On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 13:19 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote:
>>> > Jerry,
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for the tip.  I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no simple
>>> > solution available.
>>> >
>>> > Paul, W9AC
>>>
>>> Paul,
>>>
>>> If I understand you correctly, you set things up in FLDigi, get them
>>> working, and then if you close the program, and restart it, the rig is
>>> no longer controlled.  Is that correct?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> 73's, and thanks,
>>> Dave (NK7Z)
>>> For software/hardware reviews see:
>>> http://www.nk7z.net
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Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

[Jerry Moore]

I run on a raspberry pi under linux. Hardware Comm


On May 23, 2016 5:17:53 PM EDT, Bob Darlington  wrote:
>Are you using virtual com port software that's not up and running
>before
>you start fldigi?  Are you saying "yes" to the save settings popup when
>closing after you fix the problem?
>
>-Bob
>
>On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Paul Christensen 
>wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>>
>> Correct.  I must always initialize Fldigi with my K3.  Once
>initialized,
>> it's works fine.  If I close it and re-open, initializing is needed
>again.
>>
>> Paul, W9AC
>>
>> On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 13:19 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote:
>> > Jerry,
>> >
>> > Thanks for the tip.  I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no
>simple
>> > solution available.
>> >
>> > Paul, W9AC
>>
>> Paul,
>>
>> If I understand you correctly, you set things up in FLDigi, get them
>> working, and then if you close the program, and restart it, the rig
>is
>> no longer controlled.  Is that correct?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Dave (NK7Z)
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Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

[Paul Christensen]

>”Are you using virtual com port software that's not up and running before you 
>start fldigi?  Are you saying "yes" to the save settings popup when closing 
>after you fix the problem?

 

-Bob”

 

Physical COM port connected to the K3.  It’s an FTDI USB-toRS232 media 
converter that works fine with anything else connected to the K3.  

 

Yes, have attempted to save the Fldigi configuration in the pop-up a countless 
number of times.

 

Paul, W9AC 

 

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Paul Christensen  > wrote:

Dave,

Correct.  I must always initialize Fldigi with my K3.  Once initialized,
it's works fine.  If I close it and re-open, initializing is needed again.

Paul, W9AC

On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 13:19 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote:
> Jerry,
>
> Thanks for the tip.  I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no simple
> solution available.
>
> Paul, W9AC

Paul,

If I understand you correctly, you set things up in FLDigi, get them
working, and then if you close the program, and restart it, the rig is
no longer controlled.  Is that correct?



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Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

[Bob Darlington]

Are you using virtual com port software that's not up and running before
you start fldigi?  Are you saying "yes" to the save settings popup when
closing after you fix the problem?

-Bob

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Paul Christensen  wrote:

> Dave,
>
> Correct.  I must always initialize Fldigi with my K3.  Once initialized,
> it's works fine.  If I close it and re-open, initializing is needed again.
>
> Paul, W9AC
>
> On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 13:19 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote:
> > Jerry,
> >
> > Thanks for the tip.  I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no simple
> > solution available.
> >
> > Paul, W9AC
>
> Paul,
>
> If I understand you correctly, you set things up in FLDigi, get them
> working, and then if you close the program, and restart it, the rig is
> no longer controlled.  Is that correct?
>
>
>
> --
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> Dave (NK7Z)
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Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

[Paul Christensen]

Dave,

Correct.  I must always initialize Fldigi with my K3.  Once initialized,
it's works fine.  If I close it and re-open, initializing is needed again.

Paul, W9AC

On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 13:19 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote:
> Jerry,
> 
> Thanks for the tip.  I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no simple
> solution available.  
> 
> Paul, W9AC

Paul,

If I understand you correctly, you set things up in FLDigi, get them
working, and then if you close the program, and restart it, the rig is
no longer controlled.  Is that correct?



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Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

[Dave Cole]

On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 13:19 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote:
> Jerry,
> 
> Thanks for the tip.  I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no simple
> solution available.  
> 
> Paul, W9AC

Paul,

If I understand you correctly, you set things up in FLDigi, get them
working, and then if you close the program, and restart it, the rig is
no longer controlled.  Is that correct?



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Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

[Paul Christensen]

Jerry,

Thanks for the tip.  I'll use a macro in Fldigi if there's no simple
solution available.  

Paul, W9AC

-Original Message-
From: Jerry Moore [mailto:je...@carolinaheli.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 12:13 PM
To: 'Paul Christensen' <w...@arrl.net>; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

I create a macro in FLDigi and just click that to setup the rig/program

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Paul
Christensen
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 11:34 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

I have Fldigi configured with a K3 using a .XTML file.  No matter how I try
and save the configuration in Fldigi, each PSK session requires
re-initializing under Fldigi's CONFIGURATION> RIG CONTROL setting.  I've
already tried checking/unchecking several menu "ticks" including unchecking
"reset configuration at exit."

Any idea why the configuration file cannot be saved in Fldigi's
CONFIGURATION sub-menu?  I simply want to start fldigi without having to
"fiddle" with the configuration menu each time a fldigi PSK session is
started.  

Does Flrig get around this limitation?  

Paul, W9AC


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Re: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

[Jerry Moore]

I create a macro in FLDigi and just click that to setup the rig/program

-Original Message-
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Christensen
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 11:34 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] FLDIGI and K3

I have Fldigi configured with a K3 using a .XTML file.  No matter how I try
and save the configuration in Fldigi, each PSK session requires
re-initializing under Fldigi's CONFIGURATION> RIG CONTROL setting.  I've
already tried checking/unchecking several menu "ticks" including unchecking
"reset configuration at exit."

Any idea why the configuration file cannot be saved in Fldigi's
CONFIGURATION sub-menu?  I simply want to start fldigi without having to
"fiddle" with the configuration menu each time a fldigi PSK session is
started.  

Does Flrig get around this limitation?  

Paul, W9AC


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Re: [Elecraft] fldigi and K3 frequency readout

[Bill Turner]

 ORIGINAL MESSAGE (may be snipped)

On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 07:36:16 + (UTC), you wrote:

Bill, all you need to do is once you change to digital is hold the mode /alt 
down until it read rev over the top ofthe digital and that will switch to the 
other SSB mode.
Not hard once you done it a few times.  

Good Luck.Bill W0WFH

REPLY:

That's not the problem but thanks for trying. 

The problem is that when the K3 is in either USB or LSB in data-a
mode, the dial freq+audio offset shown in fldigi is incorrect. 

73, Bill W6WRT
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Re: [Elecraft] fldigi and K3 frequency readout

[Don Wilhelm]

Bill,

I don't think there is an Elecraft fix for that.  Other digital 
applications get it correct while others do not.  Some are not even 
aware that the K3 has a DATA mode with sub-modes and force USB or LSB.


It is not likely an Fldigi problem - because Fldigi uses other 
applications (e.g. Hamlib or RigCat) for transceiver control.
My guess is that the problem may be with how the DXLab bridge handles 
the K3 frequency and offsets when in DATA mode.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/16/2014 12:39 AM, Bill Turner wrote:

Just learning how to use fldigi with my K3.  Got everything working,
almost. I'm using fldigi with the bridge to DXLab.

As long as I have the K3 in USB mode, the frequency readout in fldigi
is correct, both the dial freq and the dial+audio freq.  But when I
change the K3 to data-a mode, the dial+audio readout is wrong, showing
only the dial freq.  Also, if I have the K3 in data-a mode and I
change modes in fldigi, the K3 goes back to USB.

I could just leave the K3 in USB mode all the time, but that means
changing the mic input back and forth from line in each time I change
modes.

I hope I made that clear. Is there a fix for this?




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Re: [Elecraft] fldigi and K3 frequency readout

[Bill Turner]

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On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 10:09:11 -0500, you wrote:


Bill,

I don't think there is an Elecraft fix for that.  Other digital 
applications get it correct while others do not.  Some are not even 
aware that the K3 has a DATA mode with sub-modes and force USB or LSB.

It is not likely an Fldigi problem - because Fldigi uses other 
applications (e.g. Hamlib or RigCat) for transceiver control.
My guess is that the problem may be with how the DXLab bridge handles 
the K3 frequency and offsets when in DATA mode.

73,
Don W3FPR

REPLY:

I suspect your diagnosis is right, Don. I was just hoping. Thanks.

73, Bill W6WRT
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Re: [Elecraft] fldigi and K3 frequency readout

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

 It is not likely an Fldigi problem - because Fldigi uses other
 applications (e.g. Hamlib or RigCat) for transceiver control.
 My guess is that the problem may be with how the DXLab bridge handles
 the K3 frequency and offsets when in DATA mode.

It's not a matter of  Hamlib, RigCat or the DXLab bridge.  Fldigi simply
refuses to acknowledge the multiple digital submodes in the K3 or apply
audio correction to either DATA_A or AFSK_A.  The issue also shows in
fldigi's failure to get the sideband sense correct in AFSK_A ... the
developers of fldigi simply do not care about the transceiver control
details (it's not just the K3).  As far as they are concerned the
details of the individual rig control are immaterial and only cause
anomalous behavior.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 2014-12-16 10:09 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Bill,

I don't think there is an Elecraft fix for that.  Other digital
applications get it correct while others do not.  Some are not even
aware that the K3 has a DATA mode with sub-modes and force USB or LSB.

It is not likely an Fldigi problem - because Fldigi uses other
applications (e.g. Hamlib or RigCat) for transceiver control.
My guess is that the problem may be with how the DXLab bridge handles
the K3 frequency and offsets when in DATA mode.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/16/2014 12:39 AM, Bill Turner wrote:

Just learning how to use fldigi with my K3.  Got everything working,
almost. I'm using fldigi with the bridge to DXLab.

As long as I have the K3 in USB mode, the frequency readout in fldigi
is correct, both the dial freq and the dial+audio freq.  But when I
change the K3 to data-a mode, the dial+audio readout is wrong, showing
only the dial freq.  Also, if I have the K3 in data-a mode and I
change modes in fldigi, the K3 goes back to USB.

I could just leave the K3 in USB mode all the time, but that means
changing the mic input back and forth from line in each time I change
modes.

I hope I made that clear. Is there a fix for this?




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Re: [Elecraft] fldigi and K3 frequency readout

[Bill Turner]

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On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 10:32:18 -0500, W4TV wrote:

. the
developers of fldigi simply do not care about the transceiver control
details (it's not just the K3).

REPLY:

That's about what I thought.  Is there another program similar to
fldigi that does it right?  Ham Radio Deluxe maybe?  I know it isn't
free but I would pay the price to have it work right. HRD does offer a
free trial, maybe I'll try it. 

I do like the way fldigi integrates with DXLab. Save a Q in fldigi and
it is transferred to DXKeeper with no fuss. 

73, Bill W6WRT
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