Re: [Elecraft] K3 - RF Gain Calibration Error
Try it with the latest version of the K3 Utility 1.3.11.5 and see if that helps. 73, Tom Childers Radio Amateur N5GE Licensed since 1976 QCWA Life Member 35102 ARRL Life Member Retired Professional C# Software developer http://www.n5ge.net On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 20:18:43 -, Geoffrey Downs geoffre...@madasafish.com wrote: This afternoon I performed an RF gain calibration on the main and sub receivers using my XG2 and K3 Utility Version 1.3.10.15. All went well. Then I realised that, contrary to the instructions, I had not turned off TEXT DEC. So I turned it off and re-did the RF gain calibration. All went well with the main rx but when I started the sub rx calibration a box came up headed RF Gain Calibration Error and the message in it said DSP command response did not arrive. Tried exiting utility, turning off K3 and restarting pc but now the same thing happens every time. K3 f/w 4.22. Any ideas? 73 to all Geoff G3UCK [snip] __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - RF Gain Calibration Error
Geoff: I had this same problem back in mid October 2010 (may still have it... I just haven't tried to do the RF Cal recently) and swapped several emails with Dick Dievendorff on the subject. We came up with nothing and he was going to confer with Lyle when he got back from vacation. Obviously, this wasn't at the top of the priority list :-D . Dick... any late breaking developments on this issue??? 73, Ken Wagner K3IU K3 #202 ~ On 1/9/2011 3:18 PM, Geoffrey Downs wrote: This afternoon I performed an RF gain calibration on the main and sub receivers using my XG2 and K3 Utility Version 1.3.10.15. All went well. Then I realised that, contrary to the instructions, I had not turned off TEXT DEC. So I turned it off and re-did the RF gain calibration. All went well with the main rx but when I started the sub rx calibration a box came up headed RF Gain Calibration Error and the message in it said DSP command response did not arrive. Tried exiting utility, turning off K3 and restarting pc but now the same thing happens every time. K3 f/w 4.22. Any ideas? 73 to all Geoff G3UCK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - RF Gain Calibration Error
Geoff: I had also forgotten that I had installed the upgrade to the K3 Utility. I just ran the test and it worked properly on both the main Rx and the Sub Rx using v 1.3.11.5. Sorry to have bothered you, Dick... 73, Ken K3IU ~~~ On 1/9/2011 3:50 PM, Ken K3IU wrote: Geoff: I had this same problem back in mid October 2010 (may still have it... I just haven't tried to do the RF Cal recently) and swapped several emails with Dick Dievendorff on the subject. We came up with nothing and he was going to confer with Lyle when he got back from vacation. Obviously, this wasn't at the top of the priority list :-D . Dick... any late breaking developments on this issue??? 73, Ken Wagner K3IU K3 #202 ~ On 1/9/2011 3:18 PM, Geoffrey Downs wrote: This afternoon I performed an RF gain calibration on the main and sub receivers using my XG2 and K3 Utility Version 1.3.10.15. All went well. Then I realised that, contrary to the instructions, I had not turned off TEXT DEC. So I turned it off and re-did the RF gain calibration. All went well with the main rx but when I started the sub rx calibration a box came up headed RF Gain Calibration Error and the message in it said DSP command response did not arrive. Tried exiting utility, turning off K3 and restarting pc but now the same thing happens every time. K3 f/w 4.22. Any ideas? 73 to all Geoff G3UCK __ Elecraft mailing list Home:http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - RF Gain Calibration Error
Had the same problem in the Fall. Solution (for me) was to download the latest firmware into a fresh directory (no other files), and re-install the latest version of the Utility. Calibration proceeded normally after that. 73, Kent K9ZTV K3 #21 On 1/9/2011 2:50 PM, Ken K3IU wrote: Geoff: I had this same problem back in mid October 2010 (may still have it... I just haven't tried to do the RF Cal recently) and swapped several emails with Dick Dievendorff on the subject. We came up with nothing and he was going to confer with Lyle when he got back from vacation. Obviously, this wasn't at the top of the priority list :-D . Dick... any late breaking developments on this issue??? 73, Ken Wagner K3IU K3 #202 On 1/9/2011 3:18 PM, Geoffrey Downs wrote: This afternoon I performed an RF gain calibration on the main and sub receivers using my XG2 and K3 Utility Version 1.3.10.15. All went well. Then I realised that, contrary to the instructions, I had not turned off TEXT DEC. So I turned it off and re-did the RF gain calibration. All went well with the main rx but when I started the sub rx calibration a box came up headed RF Gain Calibration Error and the message in it said DSP command response did not arrive. Tried exiting utility, turning off K3 and restarting pc but now the same thing happens every time. K3 f/w 4.22. Any ideas? 73 to all Geoff G3UCK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - RF Gain Calibration Error
Thank you Kent and also thanks to Tom N5GE and Ken K3IU for their replies. Downloaded the latest utility but still got the error message on doing the RF gain calibration on the sub rx. Restarted PC and K3, redownloaded and installed 4.22 f/w and re- performed RF gain calibration. This time no error message. So problem solved but goodness knows why! 73 all and thanks again Geoff G3UCK - Original Message - From: K9ZTV k9...@socket.net Had the same problem in the Fall. Solution (for me) was to download the latest firmware into a fresh directory (no other files), and re-install the latest version of the Utility. Calibration proceeded normally after that. 73, Kent K9ZTV K3 #21 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 RF Gain calibration
RF gain moves S-meter in my K3 to S5 max. After RF calibration it is S9+60, but after power up it is S5 again. Seems something not stored. Looks like the calibration numbers are not stored permanently? Ignacy -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-RF-Gain-calibration-tp4954737p5784886.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 RF Gain calibration
Ignacy wrote: RF gain moves S-meter in my K3 to S5 max. After RF calibration it is S9+60, but after power up it is S5 again. Seems something not stored. Looks like the calibration numbers are not stored permanently? Ignacy This is a symptom of an old K3 Utility (circa September). Load the latest Utility and try it again. 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-RF-Gain-calibration-tp4954737p5785412.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 RF Gain calibration
Thanks, I will try the new one. Seems K3 delivers lots of drama due to many changes. But it is also good that the K3 users are highly advanced and helpful. Ignacy On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Bill W4ZV [via Elecraft] ml-node+5785412-39962423-193...@n2.nabble.comml-node%2b5785412-39962423-193...@n2.nabble.com wrote: Ignacy wrote: RF gain moves S-meter in my K3 to S5 max. After RF calibration it is S9+60, but after power up it is S5 again. Seems something not stored. Looks like the calibration numbers are not stored permanently? Ignacy This is a symptom of an old K3 Utility (circa September). Load the latest Utility and try it again. 73, Bill -- View message @ http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-RF-Gain-calibration-tp4954737p5785412.html To unsubscribe from K3 RF Gain calibration, click herehttp://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_codenode=4954737code=bm85ZUBhcnJsLm5ldHw0OTU0NzM3fC0xMzI0MDI1NjE3. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-RF-Gain-calibration-tp4954737p5785685.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 RF Gain calibration
The real choice is changes as we go, and a penalty of sorts for not keeping up, or the Yakencom way of no changes until you buy next model. As they say, pick your poison. I'll take life on the bleeding edge. 73, Guy. On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Ignacy n...@arrl.net wrote: Thanks, I will try the new one. Seems K3 delivers lots of drama due to many changes. But it is also good that the K3 users are highly advanced and helpful. Ignacy On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Bill W4ZV [via Elecraft] ml-node+5785412-39962423-193...@n2.nabble.comml-node%2b5785412-39962423-193...@n2.nabble.com ml-node%2b5785412-39962423-193...@n2.nabble.comml-node%252b5785412-39962423-193...@n2.nabble.com wrote: Ignacy wrote: RF gain moves S-meter in my K3 to S5 max. After RF calibration it is S9+60, but after power up it is S5 again. Seems something not stored. Looks like the calibration numbers are not stored permanently? Ignacy This is a symptom of an old K3 Utility (circa September). Load the latest Utility and try it again. 73, Bill -- View message @ http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-RF-Gain-calibration-tp4954737p5785412.html To unsubscribe from K3 RF Gain calibration, click here http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_codenode=4954737code=bm85ZUBhcnJsLm5ldHw0OTU0NzM3fC0xMzI0MDI1NjE3 . -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-RF-Gain-calibration-tp4954737p5785685.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 RF Gain calibration
After using the latest utility the RF gain works as it should. Ignacy -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-RF-Gain-calibration-tp4954737p5786717.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 RF Gain calibration
Good! I've been mostly up on the beta changes and done some alpha testing. But in there I've gotten out of sync or some silly thing four or five times and needed rescuing. Looking back, overall it was worth it. At least I get to learn the brand new features one at a time, rather than being overwhelmed by a complete brand new users manual. 73, Guy. On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Ignacy n...@arrl.net wrote: After using the latest utility the RF gain works as it should. Ignacy -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-RF-Gain-calibration-tp4954737p5786717.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 RF Gain calibration
OK, here is the heads up. Mea Culpa (as usual :) ) What I had done before was to use CWT and spot to zero beat the signal from my XG1 and then switch off CWT. I now assumed the signal was centred. This does not appear to be the case. I tested this with all 3 versions of the Utility and got the same result. Then I did it manually, centering the signal by ear et voila! It now looks and feels right :) 73 Ian -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC HB9DRV-9 DX Clusters Member RSGB, GQRP 9838, FISTS 14077 | K3 #455 http://www.amateurradiotraining.org On 24 April 2010 15:38, Joe Planisky jp...@jeffnet.org wrote: Hi Ian, Some earlier versions of the K3 Utility for Mac and Linux would produce the symptoms you describe. If you're using a Mac or Linux box to do the procedure and don't have the latest version of the K3 Utility, I would recommend updating the K3 Utility and trying the gain calibration again. If you ARE using the latest Mac/Linux K3 Utility, I would suggest trying the calibration using the Windows version if you have access to a Windows machine. If none of the above applies to you, then I don't know what else to suggest. 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Apr 24, 2010, at 5:36 AM, Ian Maude wrote: Hi all, I have been playing with the RF gain calibration procedure on my K3. I have used my XG1 as a signal source after fitting a new battery :) What I found had surprised me. If I turn down the RF gain, I cannot completely lose a signal. The RF gain will not move the s-meter about about s7. Now obviously the rig is much more quiet but it seems to me that this is incorrect. If I use the factory default settings, the RF gain acts in the way I would have expected. I am fairly confident that the XG1 is OK. That is I see s9 on several rigs for 50uV. I would appreciate your thoughts :) 73 Ian __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 RF Gain calibration
Have you recalibrated the S-meter since you did the RF Gain Cal on the K3? I found that to be necessary. 73, Ken K3IU ~~~ On 4/24/2010 8:36 AM, Ian Maude wrote: Hi all, I have been playing with the RF gain calibration procedure on my K3. I have used my XG1 as a signal source after fitting a new battery :) What I found had surprised me. If I turn down the RF gain, I cannot completely lose a signal. The RF gain will not move the s-meter about about s7. Now obviously the rig is much more quiet but it seems to me that this is incorrect. If I use the factory default settings, the RF gain acts in the way I would have expected. I am fairly confident that the XG1 is OK. That is I see s9 on several rigs for 50uV. I would appreciate your thoughts :) 73 Ian __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 RF Gain calibration
Yes I did Ken. In fact I have just been through all the calibration steps, leaving the S-meter one until last. It just seeks odd that the RF agin seems very low now. 73 Ian On 24 April 2010 13:49, Ken K3IU kenk...@cox.net wrote: Have you recalibrated the S-meter since you did the RF Gain Cal on the K3? I found that to be necessary. 73, Ken K3IU ~~~ On 4/24/2010 8:36 AM, Ian Maude wrote: Hi all, I have been playing with the RF gain calibration procedure on my K3. I have used my XG1 as a signal source after fitting a new battery :) What I found had surprised me. If I turn down the RF gain, I cannot completely lose a signal. The RF gain will not move the s-meter about about s7. Now obviously the rig is much more quiet but it seems to me that this is incorrect. If I use the factory default settings, the RF gain acts in the way I would have expected. I am fairly confident that the XG1 is OK. That is I see s9 on several rigs for 50uV. I would appreciate your thoughts :) 73 Ian __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 RF Gain calibration
Hi Ian, Some earlier versions of the K3 Utility for Mac and Linux would produce the symptoms you describe. If you're using a Mac or Linux box to do the procedure and don't have the latest version of the K3 Utility, I would recommend updating the K3 Utility and trying the gain calibration again. If you ARE using the latest Mac/Linux K3 Utility, I would suggest trying the calibration using the Windows version if you have access to a Windows machine. If none of the above applies to you, then I don't know what else to suggest. 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Apr 24, 2010, at 5:36 AM, Ian Maude wrote: Hi all, I have been playing with the RF gain calibration procedure on my K3. I have used my XG1 as a signal source after fitting a new battery :) What I found had surprised me. If I turn down the RF gain, I cannot completely lose a signal. The RF gain will not move the s-meter about about s7. Now obviously the rig is much more quiet but it seems to me that this is incorrect. If I use the factory default settings, the RF gain acts in the way I would have expected. I am fairly confident that the XG1 is OK. That is I see s9 on several rigs for 50uV. I would appreciate your thoughts :) 73 Ian __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 RF Gain calibration
Run the calibration step again. I had to do it 3 times before it would behave itself. My symptoms were somewhat similar to yours. Be very careful to follow the instructions exactly and especially make sure you have the test signal centered in the very narrow passband specified. After the 3rd attempt my S-meter is perfect and whan backing off the RF gain it rises smoothly up to past the S9+60dB point. AB2TC - Knut Ian Maude wrote: Yes I did Ken. In fact I have just been through all the calibration steps, leaving the S-meter one until last. It just seeks odd that the RF agin seems very low now. 73 Ian snip -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-RF-Gain-calibration-tp4954737p4955906.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RF gain calibration and S meter
I agree. Something is not right here. I just tried the RF gain calibration (3 times) with the Mac K3 Utility. I followed the instructions presented by the program to the letter. I then proceeded to do the S-meter calibration as specified in the manual. Immediately after RF gain and S-meter calibration, everything seemed fine. Sensitivity seemed normal, s-meter responded to signals as expected, turning RF gain full CCW resulted in an s- meter reading of S9+50. After turning the rig off and back on, however, things are about like W7TEA reports: sensitivity seems reduced, turning the RF gain fully CCW gives an S-meter reading of S3, and a 50uV signal now gives an S5 reading (with preamp on.) I borrowed a Windows computer and repeated the exercise. This time, all was well even after a power cycle. It seems like the problem is with the Mac version of the K3 Utility. 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Oct 31, 2009, at 9:48 AM, W7TEA wrote: Just ran the RF gain calibration with the new Mac K3 Utility and an XG2. I did it a few times because I would get an ERR DSE error message when calibrating the SUB rx on occasion. I then went back and re- calibrated the S meter. I've noticed three things. 1) The rx seems considerably quieter. The PRE is needed now where I seldom used it before. 2) Turning RF gain to minimum quiets the rx but the S meter only advances to S-5 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RF gain calibration and S meter
Hi, Go back and redo the calibration! Make sure to follow the instructions exactly and pay special attention to ensure you have test signal centered in the passband. This is critical since the instructions call for a 100Hz bandwidth. I had similar symptoms as you until I did this the 3rd time. 3 times makes perfect and my S-meter is not dead on at 1uV, S9 and S9+40, the three easy cal points I have. Backing off the RF gain, S-meter rises smoothly to S9+60 and the radio gets deadly quiet. AB2TC - Knut W7TEA wrote: Just ran the RF gain calibration with the new Mac K3 Utility and an XG2. I did it a few times because I would get an ERR DSE error message when calibrating the SUB rx on occasion. I then went back and re-calibrated the S meter. I've noticed three things. 1) The rx seems considerably quieter. The PRE is needed now where I seldom used it before. 2) Turning RF gain to minimum quiets the rx but the S meter only advances to S-5 3) I calibrated the S meter with PRE on and SMTR MD set to normal as Wayne recommended. When I change the MD setting to ABS, the 50uv signal drops to S-6 and cannot be adjusted up to S-9 with SMTR OF. I would appreciate any help here. I'm tempted to go back redo the RF gain calibration using the factory defaults option. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/RF-gain-calibration-and-S-meter-tp3924416p3924540.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] RF gain calibration and S meter
Uh typo: Make it read my S-meter is *now* dead on ab2tc wrote: Hi, Go back and redo the calibration! Make sure to follow the instructions exactly and pay special attention to ensure you have test signal centered in the passband. This is critical since the instructions call for a 100Hz bandwidth. I had similar symptoms as you until I did this the 3rd time. 3 times makes perfect and my S-meter is not dead on at 1uV, S9 and S9+40,snip -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/RF-gain-calibration-and-S-meter-tp3924416p3924549.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html