Re: [Elecraft] K3 won't PTT in data...
Mike, While in data mode, press Menu, dial to MIC SEL, ensure it's set to Line In not RPL or FPL (right or front panel), now the mic should definitely not be live and if it is (and triggers VOX), you have a problem with your rig and it needs to be fixed before you use data modes again. The selection is remembered separately for the DATA modes and SSB. No matter how loud I scream into the microphone I cannot activate VOX whilst in data mode. If the mic was live in data mode it would be appalling, you'd be putting background noise splatter in the PSK31 passband, for example! 73, Thomas On 26 January 2012 19:15, Mike n...@nf4l.com wrote: Data|AFSK A uses SSB mode internally, so the mic is live, I suppose. I have no interface, that was the OP, not me. 73, Mike NF4L On 1/26/2012 9:53 AM, Thomas Horsten wrote: I don't get it, when you are in DATA mode it takes the Line In signal and ignores the microphone input if you've configured the rig correctly, any input on the Microphone line should be completely ignored and VOX should work 100%. Still, on the K3 there is absolutely no need for any external interface like SignaLink (unless you just want to use it for it's built in USB sound card, but there are many cheaper options available), just hook up the K3 to the PC with standard audio cables and a serial cable/USB-serial converter, and use soft-keying (available with fldigi and hopefully other decent digimode programs), this also gives you full rig control... 73, Thomas M0TRN On 26 January 2012 14:48, Mike n...@nf4l.com mailto:n...@nf4l.com wrote: I have an ongoing, long standing problem with using VOX to key the K3 in Data mode. My sound card is a Creative USB dongle. I use a CM500 headset/mic, plugged into the back panel. If I get the mix of volume, line in level and VOX gain high enough to reliably key the rig, the smallest noise in the room gets to the mic and keys the rig. Am I missing something? Mike, NF4L On 1/26/2012 8:47 AM, John Ragle wrote: This is a subject that has been aired many times on the server...(a) the combination you are using (which is the same as mine) works just fine, (b) you must be sure the K3 is IN VOX mode -- examine the display to make sure that VOX shows above the AGC entry to the mid-left of the screen. If it does not, the SignaLink will not work (i.e. the transmit lite will come on but you wiull get no action from the K3. Just press and hold the BAND DOWN side of the band button. I have put myself in the condition you describe numerous times by leaning too long on the band button. Ignore those who tell you to dump the SignaLink...it is an outstanding piece of hardware...I have two of them, one of which I used on an ICOM 910H and the other which I use on my K3 and on my K2 before it. You can use it with the K3 set on sideband, and with a super program like FLDIGI it works extremely well with RTTY and the myriad other digital modes. Its ability to work with SSB means you can even talk to the upside-down RTTY people on 10 meters from eastern Europe (using LSB) without gyrations. John Ragle -- W1ZI -- Sent from my lovely old Dell XPS 420 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 won't PTT in data...
Got it, Thomas. For some long forgotten reason I had MIC SEL set to MIC+LIN. DOH! 73, Mike NF4L On 1/27/2012 4:04 AM, Thomas Horsten wrote: Mike, While in data mode, press Menu, dial to MIC SEL, ensure it's set to Line In not RPL or FPL (right or front panel), now the mic should definitely not be live and if it is (and triggers VOX), you have a problem with your rig and it needs to be fixed before you use data modes again. The selection is remembered separately for the DATA modes and SSB. No matter how loud I scream into the microphone I cannot activate VOX whilst in data mode. If the mic was live in data mode it would be appalling, you'd be putting background noise splatter in the PSK31 passband, for example! 73, Thomas On 26 January 2012 19:15, Mike n...@nf4l.com mailto:n...@nf4l.com wrote: Data|AFSK A uses SSB mode internally, so the mic is live, I suppose. I have no interface, that was the OP, not me. 73, Mike NF4L On 1/26/2012 9:53 AM, Thomas Horsten wrote: I don't get it, when you are in DATA mode it takes the Line In signal and ignores the microphone input if you've configured the rig correctly, any input on the Microphone line should be completely ignored and VOX should work 100%. Still, on the K3 there is absolutely no need for any external interface like SignaLink (unless you just want to use it for it's built in USB sound card, but there are many cheaper options available), just hook up the K3 to the PC with standard audio cables and a serial cable/USB-serial converter, and use soft-keying (available with fldigi and hopefully other decent digimode programs), this also gives you full rig control... 73, Thomas M0TRN On 26 January 2012 14:48, Mike n...@nf4l.com mailto:n...@nf4l.com mailto:n...@nf4l.com mailto:n...@nf4l.com wrote: I have an ongoing, long standing problem with using VOX to key the K3 in Data mode. My sound card is a Creative USB dongle. I use a CM500 headset/mic, plugged into the back panel. If I get the mix of volume, line in level and VOX gain high enough to reliably key the rig, the smallest noise in the room gets to the mic and keys the rig. Am I missing something? Mike, NF4L __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 won't PTT in data
Tim I run fldigi with my K3, no need for any interface, just sound card cables and RS232. The program is free from http://www.w1hkj.com/ You also need to download the K3.xml file (from the above page) and it works... You don't need the companion program flrig as the fldigi program itself reads the frequency and keys the K3 via RS232. 73 Dave, G4AON Trying to run my K3 on PSK31 in data A mode w a tigertronics USB interface and digipan software. The box connects to K3 via line in/out jacks and the rear panel PTT jack. All jumpers in interface are set correctly. When the software goes to TX, the interface box goes to TX, and the phono plug from the box that plugs into the K3 PTT jack goes to ground. The K3 however doesn't go into TX mode, unless you also key the hand mike. SNIP Tim N5IIT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 won't PTT in data
Tim, Make sure you have MIC SEL on the MAIN menu set to PH+Line-In. This allows the back line-in jack to be active for transmit/receive on the back panel Line-In port. I also use the SignaLink with my K3 and don't have any issues with this setting. Hope this helps. 73, --Ian Ian Kahn, KM4IK Roswell, GA EM74ua km4ik@gmail.com K3 #231, P3 #688 On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Tim Urban urba...@gmail.com wrote: Trying to run my K3 on PSK31 in data A mode w a tigertronics USB interface and digipan software. The box connects to K3 via line in/out jacks and the rear panel PTT jack. All jumpers in interface are set correctly. When the software goes to TX, the interface box goes to TX, and the phono plug from the box that plugs into the K3 PTT jack goes to ground. The K3 however doesn't go into TX mode, unless you also key the hand mike. Using the hand mike switch as a manual PTT switch I made several PSK31 QSOs tonight so the sound card chip in the tigertronics box is apparently working. Just for kicks I tried using the rs232 rig control and digipan to try to trigger TX that way as described in elecrafts K3 operating hints, and the rig would not go into TX mode that way, either. Is there a selection in the menus that I am overlooking that will allow the rear panel PTT jack to trigger TX mode while in Data A? 73 Tim N5IIT No Message Below This Line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 won't PTT in data
Tim, You say that the PTT output from the Tigertronics jack goes to ground, but that does not cause the K3 to go into transmit -- I think something is awry in that area. Think cable - have you checked the cable between the Tigertronics and the K3 PTT jack? Pull the cable off the Tigertronics end and short across the connector - does the K3 go into TX? If not, try another cable. If the K3 does go into TX, then your interface is not connecting its PTT output to ground. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/25/2012 10:45 PM, Tim Urban wrote: Trying to run my K3 on PSK31 in data A mode w a tigertronics USB interface and digipan software. The box connects to K3 via line in/out jacks and the rear panel PTT jack. All jumpers in interface are set correctly. When the software goes to TX, the interface box goes to TX, and the phono plug from the box that plugs into the K3 PTT jack goes to ground. The K3 however doesn't go into TX mode, unless you also key the hand mike. Using the hand mike switch as a manual PTT switch I made several PSK31 QSOs tonight so the sound card chip in the tigertronics box is apparently working. Just for kicks I tried using the rs232 rig control and digipan to try to trigger TX that way as described in elecrafts K3 operating hints, and the rig would not go into TX mode that way, either. Is there a selection in the menus that I am overlooking that will allow the rear panel PTT jack to trigger TX mode while in Data A? 73 Tim N5IIT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 won't PTT in data...
I have an ongoing, long standing problem with using VOX to key the K3 in Data mode. My sound card is a Creative USB dongle. I use a CM500 headset/mic, plugged into the back panel. If I get the mix of volume, line in level and VOX gain high enough to reliably key the rig, the smallest noise in the room gets to the mic and keys the rig. Am I missing something? Mike, NF4L On 1/26/2012 8:47 AM, John Ragle wrote: This is a subject that has been aired many times on the server...(a) the combination you are using (which is the same as mine) works just fine, (b) you must be sure the K3 is IN VOX mode -- examine the display to make sure that VOX shows above the AGC entry to the mid-left of the screen. If it does not, the SignaLink will not work (i.e. the transmit lite will come on but you wiull get no action from the K3. Just press and hold the BAND DOWN side of the band button. I have put myself in the condition you describe numerous times by leaning too long on the band button. Ignore those who tell you to dump the SignaLink...it is an outstanding piece of hardware...I have two of them, one of which I used on an ICOM 910H and the other which I use on my K3 and on my K2 before it. You can use it with the K3 set on sideband, and with a super program like FLDIGI it works extremely well with RTTY and the myriad other digital modes. Its ability to work with SSB means you can even talk to the upside-down RTTY people on 10 meters from eastern Europe (using LSB) without gyrations. John Ragle -- W1ZI -- Sent from my lovely old Dell XPS 420 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 won't PTT in data...
I don't get it, when you are in DATA mode it takes the Line In signal and ignores the microphone input if you've configured the rig correctly, any input on the Microphone line should be completely ignored and VOX should work 100%. Still, on the K3 there is absolutely no need for any external interface like SignaLink (unless you just want to use it for it's built in USB sound card, but there are many cheaper options available), just hook up the K3 to the PC with standard audio cables and a serial cable/USB-serial converter, and use soft-keying (available with fldigi and hopefully other decent digimode programs), this also gives you full rig control... 73, Thomas M0TRN On 26 January 2012 14:48, Mike n...@nf4l.com wrote: I have an ongoing, long standing problem with using VOX to key the K3 in Data mode. My sound card is a Creative USB dongle. I use a CM500 headset/mic, plugged into the back panel. If I get the mix of volume, line in level and VOX gain high enough to reliably key the rig, the smallest noise in the room gets to the mic and keys the rig. Am I missing something? Mike, NF4L On 1/26/2012 8:47 AM, John Ragle wrote: This is a subject that has been aired many times on the server...(a) the combination you are using (which is the same as mine) works just fine, (b) you must be sure the K3 is IN VOX mode -- examine the display to make sure that VOX shows above the AGC entry to the mid-left of the screen. If it does not, the SignaLink will not work (i.e. the transmit lite will come on but you wiull get no action from the K3. Just press and hold the BAND DOWN side of the band button. I have put myself in the condition you describe numerous times by leaning too long on the band button. Ignore those who tell you to dump the SignaLink...it is an outstanding piece of hardware...I have two of them, one of which I used on an ICOM 910H and the other which I use on my K3 and on my K2 before it. You can use it with the K3 set on sideband, and with a super program like FLDIGI it works extremely well with RTTY and the myriad other digital modes. Its ability to work with SSB means you can even talk to the upside-down RTTY people on 10 meters from eastern Europe (using LSB) without gyrations. John Ragle -- W1ZI -- Sent from my lovely old Dell XPS 420 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 won't PTT in data...
Data|AFSK A uses SSB mode internally, so the mic is live, I suppose. I have no interface, that was the OP, not me. 73, Mike NF4L On 1/26/2012 9:53 AM, Thomas Horsten wrote: I don't get it, when you are in DATA mode it takes the Line In signal and ignores the microphone input if you've configured the rig correctly, any input on the Microphone line should be completely ignored and VOX should work 100%. Still, on the K3 there is absolutely no need for any external interface like SignaLink (unless you just want to use it for it's built in USB sound card, but there are many cheaper options available), just hook up the K3 to the PC with standard audio cables and a serial cable/USB-serial converter, and use soft-keying (available with fldigi and hopefully other decent digimode programs), this also gives you full rig control... 73, Thomas M0TRN On 26 January 2012 14:48, Mike n...@nf4l.com mailto:n...@nf4l.com wrote: I have an ongoing, long standing problem with using VOX to key the K3 in Data mode. My sound card is a Creative USB dongle. I use a CM500 headset/mic, plugged into the back panel. If I get the mix of volume, line in level and VOX gain high enough to reliably key the rig, the smallest noise in the room gets to the mic and keys the rig. Am I missing something? Mike, NF4L On 1/26/2012 8:47 AM, John Ragle wrote: This is a subject that has been aired many times on the server...(a) the combination you are using (which is the same as mine) works just fine, (b) you must be sure the K3 is IN VOX mode -- examine the display to make sure that VOX shows above the AGC entry to the mid-left of the screen. If it does not, the SignaLink will not work (i.e. the transmit lite will come on but you wiull get no action from the K3. Just press and hold the BAND DOWN side of the band button. I have put myself in the condition you describe numerous times by leaning too long on the band button. Ignore those who tell you to dump the SignaLink...it is an outstanding piece of hardware...I have two of them, one of which I used on an ICOM 910H and the other which I use on my K3 and on my K2 before it. You can use it with the K3 set on sideband, and with a super program like FLDIGI it works extremely well with RTTY and the myriad other digital modes. Its ability to work with SSB means you can even talk to the upside-down RTTY people on 10 meters from eastern Europe (using LSB) without gyrations. John Ragle -- W1ZI -- Sent from my lovely old Dell XPS 420 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 won't PTT in data...
After some nudges from the community prompted me to experiment further, I changed MIC SEL from MIC+LIN to rP.H ant turned MIC+LIN on. That seems to have fixed it. 73, Mike NF4L On 1/26/2012 9:48 AM, Mike wrote: I have an ongoing, long standing problem with using VOX to key the K3 in Data mode. My sound card is a Creative USB dongle. I use a CM500 headset/mic, plugged into the back panel. If I get the mix of volume, line in level and VOX gain high enough to reliably key the rig, the smallest noise in the room gets to the mic and keys the rig. Am I missing something? Mike, NF4L __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 won't PTT in data
Try VOX and skip everthing except the computer, two cables for audio either way, Digipan and the K3. Mark, NØOKS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
