Re: [Elecraft] P3, Remote Viewing via the Internet
The epiphzn does not do a very good job getting the svga from the p3 to the displzy. Low fps as well s dropped frames. On the other hand, if you have a PC with a spare PCIex4slot, the Avermedia HD will capture the P3 display flawlessly. It also comes with a tutorial on how to stream his video via flash to a web page. You can also check out Windows4P3Remote which has a good description of the process. 73's, VA2FSQ, Tom -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-Remote-Viewing-via-the-Internet-tp7474682p7556378.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3, Remote Viewing via the Internet
Well, the cheap S-video frame grabber I bought isn't recognized by Skype as a camera. In device manager it shows up as a sound, video and game controller. I've heard, off-line, from George reporting that he uses an Epiphan frame grabber successfully with Skype but there are a wide range of models and prices ranging from $150 to well over a thousand dollars plus. George didn't say which model he's using but the least expensive I've seen is the vga2usb on eBay at $150. Unitil I hear from someone who confirms success with a specific model number in the lower price range I'm going to wait before spending more on experiments that don't work out. 73, Bob, W7KWS -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-Remote-Viewing-via-the-Internet-tp7474682p7504117.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3, Remote Viewing via the Internet
Web cam + Skype = remote viewing Sometimes simpler is better. Rick wa6nhc -Original Message- From: Bob W7KWS Well, the cheap S-video frame grabber I bought isn't recognized by Skype as a camera. In device manager it shows up as a sound, video and game controller. I've heard, off-line, from George reporting that he uses an Epiphan frame grabber successfully with Skype but there are a wide range of models and prices ranging from $150 to well over a thousand dollars plus. George didn't say which model he's using but the least expensive I've seen is the vga2usb on eBay at $150. Unitil I hear from someone who confirms success with a specific model number in the lower price range I'm going to wait before spending more on experiments that don't work out. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3, Remote Viewing via the Internet
Give me a couple days I just got my p3 back from mother elecraft I have the vga2usb model... George NE2I On Apr 26, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Rick Bates happymooseph...@gmail.com wrote: Web cam + Skype = remote viewing Sometimes simpler is better. Rick wa6nhc -Original Message- From: Bob W7KWS Well, the cheap S-video frame grabber I bought isn't recognized by Skype as a camera. In device manager it shows up as a sound, video and game controller. I've heard, off-line, from George reporting that he uses an Epiphan frame grabber successfully with Skype but there are a wide range of models and prices ranging from $150 to well over a thousand dollars plus. George didn't say which model he's using but the least expensive I've seen is the vga2usb on eBay at $150. Unitil I hear from someone who confirms success with a specific model number in the lower price range I'm going to wait before spending more on experiments that don't work out. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3, Remote Viewing via the Internet
Since my experiment with my Slingbox didn't work out I looked back through the replys and remembered that Rick was using a camera pointed at the P3 and was viewing it using remote login and Skype for audio. I'm not sure from that description what software was transporting the video but logic says I could just as well be Skype for the video and for the audio. I hooked up my HD camera and tried this using Skype for the video and it looked pretty good so I've ordered an inexpensive S-Video to USB frame grabber which I hope skype will see as a camera. I plan to caputre 1280x1024 video, similar to what the P3's SVGA card produces, using the VGA to S-Video converter I mentioned in my initial post. That will feed the frame grabber and if Skype sees it, I should be in business. I'll report my results here. 73, Bob, W7KWS -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-Remote-Viewing-via-the-Internet-tp7474682p7490750.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3, Remote Viewing via the Internet
wow half K$ box...waaay too expensive. Maybe a raspberry pi with a capture usb card and a smart linux software will be a decent answer... and can be used on both ends and is waaay cheaper.On the other hand the jpg pr mpeg transport is eating lots of bandwidth, I am thinking to a flash server/player...why not? VE3GNO Daniel From: Bob W7KWS b...@fullermail.org To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 7:43:55 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3, Remote Viewing via the Internet Well, I got the VGA to S-Video converter today from Amazon and hooked everything up. It does a decent job converting 1280x1024 RGB video to composite and S-Video. A cable from its RCA output direct to a TV looks pretty good. Once I introduce the Slingbox, it all falls apart. One problem is that my slingbox classic set for my maximum upload speed of 768 kilobits/sec really degrades the video just as Daniel predicted it would. It is still usable but hard to look at. The main difficulty is that the Slingbox introduces a six-second buffer delay. This just doesn't work for tuning a radio and watching the results. Back to the drawing board. I see that Grandstream makes a fairly inexpensive ($120) video server (GXV3501) aimed at the security market. Has anyone used one of these who can give input on the buffer delay before I waste the bucks? One suggestion has been the Axis servers but they are half a kilobuck. A bit rich for this. I may bring my K3 P3 here and continue using the TS-480 for remote. I really miss the P3. Thanks, Bob, W7KWS -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-Remote-Viewing-via-the-Internet-tp7474682p7482594.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3, Remote Viewing via the Internet
Well, I got the VGA to S-Video converter today from Amazon and hooked everything up. It does a decent job converting 1280x1024 RGB video to composite and S-Video. A cable from its RCA output direct to a TV looks pretty good. Once I introduce the Slingbox, it all falls apart. One problem is that my slingbox classic set for my maximum upload speed of 768 kilobits/sec really degrades the video just as Daniel predicted it would. It is still usable but hard to look at. The main difficulty is that the Slingbox introduces a six-second buffer delay. This just doesn't work for tuning a radio and watching the results. Back to the drawing board. I see that Grandstream makes a fairly inexpensive ($120) video server (GXV3501) aimed at the security market. Has anyone used one of these who can give input on the buffer delay before I waste the bucks? One suggestion has been the Axis servers but they are half a kilobuck. A bit rich for this. I may bring my K3 P3 here and continue using the TS-480 for remote. I really miss the P3. Thanks, Bob, W7KWS -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-Remote-Viewing-via-the-Internet-tp7474682p7482594.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3, Remote Viewing via the Internet
My windows for P3 app will work remotely and allow full control of the P3 as well. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-Remote-Viewing-via-the-Internet-tp7474682p7476790.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3, Remote Viewing via the Internet
Is your P3 for Windows software available and will it operate under WIN 7 x64? Thanks, Bob, W7KWS -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-Remote-Viewing-via-the-Internet-tp7474682p7478430.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3, Remote Viewing via the Internet
I took the lazy way out. I'm using HRD and a spare laptop in the shack, attached to the K3/P3, using remote login and Skype for audio. When I know I'm going to be remote (I'm QRV in San Diego now) I set the web cam to view both the K3 and P3 displays. I then use Skype video to 'see' the displays and can zoom and pan as needed. I don't have control access of the monitor (unless I run a macro from the P3 utility) and it requires bandwidth but this simple and clunky lashup actually works. If the bandwidth is limited, I remotely login, 'answer' my call with audio only and keep the HRD bandwidth low. So system (and rig/license) security requires that you're on the allowed list of logins for remote desktop (just me); that you're on my Skype list (very few) AND have the HRD remote login info (again, just me). So far, so good. Some days, being nerdy and having toys is a good thing. 73, Rick wa6nhc -Original Message- From: Bob Fuller I've been interested in remote control of my station for about ten years now snipped __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3, Remote Viewing via the Internet
Rick, Thanks for the input. I too use a camera but it's mostly to look for smoke. Bob, W7KWS -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-Remote-Viewing-via-the-Internet-tp7474682p7475373.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
