Re: [Elecraft] P3 v. SDRPlay RSP1A for panadapter

[Bill Frantz]

The SVGA option will let you have a large screen on your P3.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 11/22/18 at 12:12 PM, d_hud...@outlook.com (Douglas Hudson) wrote:

> The eye appeal of the P3 sitting beside the transceiver is 
> hard to beat but, with the P3, the size of the display is fixed where with a 
> play 
> unit the size of the display is up to you and your budget.
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 v. SDRPlay RSP1A for panadapter

[Douglas Hudson]

Bill,

The P3 is designed specifically for use with the K3/K3s line.  It has features 
like function buttons for rig and display control, click on a signal to change 
the vfo(s) to that frequency, split display for both spectra and waterfall, 
updatable firm/software, etc.  None of this is available with any of the play 
units without supplimental programs.  The eye appeal of the P3 sitting beside 
the transceiver is hard to beat but, with the P3, the size of the display is 
fixed where with a play unit the size of the display is up to you and your 
budget.  To me, the drawback with a play unit, beside the above, is the 
requirement for a computer and monitor to process and display the image.  If 
the function buttons, split spectra/waterfall display, and VFO versatility is 
of little interest to you, the play units will save you a sack of bux, assuming 
you already have a computer and monitor.

See Elecraft's recap of the P3 here:
elecraft.com/products/p3-dsp-panadapter-for-the-k3s-and-k3

Doug, K7CUU

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of Bill Weaver 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 10:17:12 AM
To: elecraft
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 v. SDRPlay RSP1A for panadapter



I'm about to place an order for a K-Line and have a question for the 
experienced users out there. What is the advantage of the P3 v. The SDRPlay box 
as a panadapter if any?



Thanks

Bill - WE5P







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Re: [Elecraft] P3 v. SDRPlay RSP1A for panadapter

[Barry]

Dave,
I know I am not the greatest writer on this reflector, so let me 
clarify something. I do use the RSP for spectrum display, but that 
display is by using Win4K3 which can be driven by the RSP. To me it was 
just a chance to add to the collection of "stuff" I have on my operating 
desk and computer.


73,
Barry
K3NDM

-- Original Message --
From: "Dave Scarfe" 
To: "Barry LaZar" 
Cc: "Bill Weaver" ; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: 11/22/2018 8:54:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 v. SDRPlay RSP1A for panadapter

I don't have  P3, but I do use the RSP. The RSP works great, but when 
switching in filters, your display will offset by the offset value 
included with your filter.  If you are using Win4K3, compensation is 
done for you, but other software (ex. HDSdr) does not.  For me this 
isn't a huge issue as I don't do precise tuning using the panadapter.


73,
Dave
Ve5uo

On Wed, Nov 21, 2018, 3:31 PM Barry 
Bill,
 That is a interesting question. I use the RSP for spectrum 
display

and LP Pan with a good sound card for CW Skimmer; Yes, they are in
parallel. I would say there is an advantage to using a software 
spectrum

display vice a P3; my feeling is that there is more flexibility. I run
my spectrum display, Win4K3, as a way to tie all of the software I use
together for tracking and control and logging.  If you go with the P3,
you will still need some software to integrate station functionality.

 The real question is just how much spectrum do you really need to
display. About 100 KHz works for me most of the time. That means a 
sound

card that samples at 192 KHz. should be adequate, but there is always
the desire to see more, whether you really need it or not. It's been a
while, but as I recall I can see about 1 MHz. using the RSP. For 
chasing
DX in split mode, I usually run about 50 KHz on my 24" monitor. This 
way

I can see where the DX station is hearing. The way you operate will
dictate what bandwidth you will use and when.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

-- Original Message --
From: "Bill Weaver" 
To: "elecraft" 
Sent: 11/21/2018 1:17:12 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 v. SDRPlay RSP1A for panadapter

>
>
>I'm about to place an order for a K-Line and have a question for the
>experienced users out there. What is the advantage of the P3 v. The
>SDRPlay box as a panadapter if any?
>
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Bill - WE5P
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 v. SDRPlay RSP1A for panadapter

[Dave Scarfe]

I don't have  P3, but I do use the RSP. The RSP works great, but when
switching in filters, your display will offset by the offset value included
with your filter.  If you are using Win4K3, compensation is done for you,
but other software (ex. HDSdr) does not.  For me this isn't a huge issue as
I don't do precise tuning using the panadapter.

73,
Dave
Ve5uo

On Wed, Nov 21, 2018, 3:31 PM Barry  Bill,
>  That is a interesting question. I use the RSP for spectrum display
> and LP Pan with a good sound card for CW Skimmer; Yes, they are in
> parallel. I would say there is an advantage to using a software spectrum
> display vice a P3; my feeling is that there is more flexibility. I run
> my spectrum display, Win4K3, as a way to tie all of the software I use
> together for tracking and control and logging.  If you go with the P3,
> you will still need some software to integrate station functionality.
>
>  The real question is just how much spectrum do you really need to
> display. About 100 KHz works for me most of the time. That means a sound
> card that samples at 192 KHz. should be adequate, but there is always
> the desire to see more, whether you really need it or not. It's been a
> while, but as I recall I can see about 1 MHz. using the RSP. For chasing
> DX in split mode, I usually run about 50 KHz on my 24" monitor. This way
> I can see where the DX station is hearing. The way you operate will
> dictate what bandwidth you will use and when.
>
> 73,
> Barry
> K3NDM
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Bill Weaver" 
> To: "elecraft" 
> Sent: 11/21/2018 1:17:12 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] P3 v. SDRPlay RSP1A for panadapter
>
> >
> >
> >I'm about to place an order for a K-Line and have a question for the
> >experienced users out there. What is the advantage of the P3 v. The
> >SDRPlay box as a panadapter if any?
> >
> >
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Bill - WE5P
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 v. SDRPlay RSP1A for panadapter

[Barry]

Bill,
That is a interesting question. I use the RSP for spectrum display 
and LP Pan with a good sound card for CW Skimmer; Yes, they are in 
parallel. I would say there is an advantage to using a software spectrum 
display vice a P3; my feeling is that there is more flexibility. I run 
my spectrum display, Win4K3, as a way to tie all of the software I use 
together for tracking and control and logging.  If you go with the P3, 
you will still need some software to integrate station functionality.


The real question is just how much spectrum do you really need to 
display. About 100 KHz works for me most of the time. That means a sound 
card that samples at 192 KHz. should be adequate, but there is always 
the desire to see more, whether you really need it or not. It's been a 
while, but as I recall I can see about 1 MHz. using the RSP. For chasing 
DX in split mode, I usually run about 50 KHz on my 24" monitor. This way 
I can see where the DX station is hearing. The way you operate will 
dictate what bandwidth you will use and when.


73,
Barry
K3NDM

-- Original Message --
From: "Bill Weaver" 
To: "elecraft" 
Sent: 11/21/2018 1:17:12 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 v. SDRPlay RSP1A for panadapter




I'm about to place an order for a K-Line and have a question for the 
experienced users out there. What is the advantage of the P3 v. The 
SDRPlay box as a panadapter if any?




Thanks

Bill - WE5P







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Re: [Elecraft] P3 v. SDRPlay RSP1A for panadapter

[Dave Fugleberg]

The P3 is simpler- plug and play, no fooling around with configuring HDSDR
or whatever software you prefer. You can set up the hardware buttons for
whatever you want, so it’s very convenient to make quick changes to span,
etc.

SDRPlay is cheaper and can integrate with other software to show spots on
the waterfall, etc.

I started with a softrock and a sound card for a pan adapter, then moved to
SDRPlay, then bought a P3. I don't miss the dependence on the computer, or
the larger screen. Your mileage may vary.
On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 12:18 PM Bill Weaver  wrote:

>
>
> I'm about to place an order for a K-Line and have a question for the
> experienced users out there. What is the advantage of the P3 v. The SDRPlay
> box as a panadapter if any?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Bill - WE5P
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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