Re: [Elecraft] k2 clicking

2011-07-07 Thread John Cooper

got 25 on order from ebay
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From: Ron D'Eau Claire
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 6:13 PM
To: 'John Cooper' ; 'elecraft'
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] k2 clicking

John, that's more evidence that it's the forward and reverse power detection 
diodes in the KPA100 that failed since when you remove it the power 
detection function is handled by a separate diode detector in the base K2.

The base K2 doesn't have a full forward/reverse power detection circuit to 
calculate SWR. It uses a simpler diode detector to only measure the output 
power at the antenna connector and reports the power assuming a 50 ohm 
non-reactive load. The detector output tells the K2 when it is producing the 
power requested by the POWER control.

Ron AC7AC

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Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 4:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k2 clicking

k2 by itself transmit fine, when hooked just to kat100 without kpa 100 it
goes hi current during transmit no matter 2 watts or 15 watts.

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Re: [Elecraft] k2 clicking

2011-07-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
  John,

That is a good indication that the diodes D1 and D2 have been "zapped" 
in the KAT100.  It is also possible that D16 and D17 in the KPA100 have 
been zapped too, so if you are ordering 1N5711s, I would order at least 
4 of them.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/7/2011 7:10 PM, John Cooper wrote:
> k2 by itself transmit fine, when hooked just to kat100 without kpa 100 it
> goes hi current during transmit no matter 2 watts or 15 watts.
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] k2 clicking

2011-07-07 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
John, that's more evidence that it's the forward and reverse power detection 
diodes in the KPA100 that failed since when you remove it the power detection 
function is handled by a separate diode detector in the base K2.

The base K2 doesn't have a full forward/reverse power detection circuit to 
calculate SWR. It uses a simpler diode detector to only measure the output 
power at the antenna connector and reports the power assuming a 50 ohm 
non-reactive load. The detector output tells the K2 when it is producing the 
power requested by the POWER control. 

Ron AC7AC

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k2 clicking

k2 by itself transmit fine, when hooked just to kat100 without kpa 100 it 
goes hi current during transmit no matter 2 watts or 15 watts.

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Re: [Elecraft] k2 clicking

2011-07-07 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Assuming you meant KPA100 and not KAT100 -- It seems that almost always the 
issue is failed diodes in the power detection circuit used to measure SWR and 
drive the tuner - apparently from static discharge from the antenna. In this 
case, the KPA100 diodes have failed. The KAT2 diodes appear to be fine since it 
works. 

High Current is a common report coupled with bad diodes. The KPA100 uses the 
forward power sensed by the diodes to set the output power to match what you 
have requested with the POWER knob. No feedback means the rig drives the finals 
to full output, often looking into a high SWR since the diodes are also 
necessary for the tuner to work. 

Ron AC7AC

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ok the relay that switches the high power was clicking because the fuse in 
the rig runner was bad replaced that stopped clicking think problem in kat 
100

Left k2 hooked during storm now acts funny. Have the k2 with amp and tuner
in ec2. Tuner tunes but leds on kat100 don’t light up. Also shows hi curr on
screen. KAT100 shows error code E243. When kpa100 switched something starts
clicking one of the relays not sure which one yet. kat2 tuner shows no
errors just when kat100 hooked up.

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Re: [Elecraft] k2 clicking

2011-07-07 Thread John Cooper
k2 by itself transmit fine, when hooked just to kat100 without kpa 100 it 
goes hi current during transmit no matter 2 watts or 15 watts.

-Original Message- 
From: John Cooper
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 5:56 PM
To: d...@w3fpr.com ; elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k2 clicking

ok the relay that switches the high power was clicking because the fuse in
the rig runner was bad replaced that stopped clicking think problem in kat
100

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From: John Cooper
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 5:36 PM
To: d...@w3fpr.com ; elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k2 clicking


kpa100 shows e 12 on error list
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From: John Cooper
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 5:13 PM
To: d...@w3fpr.com ; elecraft
Subject: [Elecraft] k2 clicking

Left k2 hooked during storm now acts funny. Have the k2 with amp and tuner
in ec2. Tuner tunes but leds on kat100 don’t light up. Also shows hi curr on
screen. KAT100 shows error code E243. When kpa100 switched something starts
clicking one of the relays not sure which one yet. kat2 tuner shows no
errors just when kat100 hooked up.
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Re: [Elecraft] k2 clicking

2011-07-07 Thread John Cooper
ok the relay that switches the high power was clicking because the fuse in 
the rig runner was bad replaced that stopped clicking think problem in kat 
100

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From: John Cooper
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 5:36 PM
To: d...@w3fpr.com ; elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k2 clicking


kpa100 shows e 12 on error list
-Original Message- 
From: John Cooper
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 5:13 PM
To: d...@w3fpr.com ; elecraft
Subject: [Elecraft] k2 clicking

Left k2 hooked during storm now acts funny. Have the k2 with amp and tuner
in ec2. Tuner tunes but leds on kat100 don’t light up. Also shows hi curr on
screen. KAT100 shows error code E243. When kpa100 switched something starts
clicking one of the relays not sure which one yet. kat2 tuner shows no
errors just when kat100 hooked up.
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Re: [Elecraft] k2 clicking

2011-07-07 Thread John Cooper

kpa100 shows e 12 on error list
-Original Message- 
From: John Cooper
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 5:13 PM
To: d...@w3fpr.com ; elecraft
Subject: [Elecraft] k2 clicking

Left k2 hooked during storm now acts funny. Have the k2 with amp and tuner 
in ec2. Tuner tunes but leds on kat100 don’t light up. Also shows hi curr on 
screen. KAT100 shows error code E243. When kpa100 switched something starts 
clicking one of the relays not sure which one yet. kat2 tuner shows no 
errors just when kat100 hooked up.
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