Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Split operation
I also like the idea of an initial offset for use with LP-PAN. When turning on Split, the panadapter would then clearly show both passbands in a predictable way. With A=B, one is hiding behind the other. With no preset, one could be off the screen. 73, Larry N8LP Ian White GM3SEK wrote: One touch split from the VFO A frequency is an established menu option on a wide range of transceivers. The K3 requires FIVE distinct operations to set that up, leaving its owner several seconds behind the game. I strongly prefer the option of an offset frequency as a starting point for tuning VFO B, because an offset of zero is the DX station's own frequency - the one place we *don't* want to transmit! -- 73 from Ian GM3SEK http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Split-operation-tp3843968p3848676.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Split operation
Wow, Alan, Eric and Wayne, This is a great suggestion for future k3/P3 software: Snip I also like the idea of an initial offset for use with LP-PAN. When turning on Split, the panadapter would then clearly show both passbands in a predictable way. With A=B, one is hiding behind the other. With no preset, one could be off the screen. End snip. Thanks for the idea Larry. 73, Fred AE6IC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Split operation
For my part I'm contented with the way AB and Split works. Maybe it's also that I'm used to it this way because all of my previous rigs worked like this. I don't see the need to change this. As for the quick split feature, it is nice to have but I never used it because a lot of DX-Stations use different splits and you'll have to dial in on them anyway. Yust my 2 cents. 73 de Roland, DC1RS - K3/100 #1243, KFL3A-2.8K, KFL3A-2.1K, KFL3A-400, KRX3, KFL3A-2.8K, KFL3A-400, KAT3 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Split-operation-tp3843968p3845772.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Split operation [END of Thread]
I don't want to contradict but tapping AB once already copy frequency AND mode to VFO B... Just turned on the radio and tried again to be 100% sure. 73 de Roland, DC1RS - K3/100 #1243, KFL3A-2.8K, KFL3A-2.1K, KFL3A-400, KRX3, KFL3A-2.8K, KFL3A-400, KAT3 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Split-operation-tp3843968p3846205.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Split Operation
It is a Coming Attraction 73, Don W3FPR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used to use my A and B VFOs on the Omni VI for switching bands during the Sprint. I could assign VFO A to 20M and VFO B to 40M on radio 1 and VFO A to 40M and VFO B to 80M on Radio 2. With my K3s, I do not intend to use the subreceiver option ever. Is it not possible to have splits that operate between bands? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Split Operation
From Wayne's message yesterday, in response to a request for this feature, This will be possible after I complete work related to the VFO IND (VFO independence) menu entry. This affects a large amount of firmware, and it won't escape my lab until it's fully tested. 73, Wayne N6KR Hope this helps. I too am looking forward to this update. I know it will get here when it has been tested and debugged. For now I am using my K2 to listen to other bands on a second antenna. David Wilburn NM4M http://www.nm4m.com http://www.k4rc.net Williamsburg Area Amateur Radio Club (K4RC) My Current LOTW/WAS/DXCC status http://www.nm4m.com/WAS.DXCC.info.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used to use my A and B VFOs on the Omni VI for switching bands during the Sprint. I could assign VFO A to 20M and VFO B to 40M on radio 1 and VFO A to 40M and VFO B to 80M on Radio 2. With my K3s, I do not intend to use the subreceiver option ever. Is it not possible to have splits that operate between bands? Paul, k5AF New *MapQuest Local* shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News more. Try it out! http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1211031713x1200669822/aol?redir=http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew0002 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Split Operation
I used to use my A and B VFOs on the Omni VI for switching bands during the Sprint. I could assign VFO A to 20M and VFO B to 40M on radio 1 and VFO A to 40M and VFO B to 80M on Radio 2. With my K3s, I do not intend to use the subreceiver option ever. Is it not possible to have splits that operate between bands? I did the same with my FT-1000MP. Yes, it would be handy to be able to do that on the K3 also. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Split-Operation-tp1341506p1342170.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] k3 : Split Operation
Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Not only does AB fail to transfer mode, CW in SSB does not work on VFO B. Its time to fix the user interface to transfer mode with frequency. It's certainly high time for the auto pileup split option that most other high-end rigs have had for years. If this option is selected, a single press on the SPLIT button would: 1. Activate the sub-rx in stereo mode 2. Clone *all* of the main rx settings to the sub-rx (if identical roofing filters are not available in the sub-rx, use the next one wider) 3. Shift VFO B to a user-programed frequency offset from VFO A. Another useful option would be steps 1 and 2 only; or of course none of the above. -- 73 from Ian GM3SEK http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] k3 : Split Operation
activating SPLIT activates the '7800's 2nd receiver -- unless that ability has alluded me in the menu system. I need my own editor. Make the eluded, and not alluded. Paul, W9AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] k3 : Split Operation
Another thing about split operation is that the K3 defaults to using VFO B for transmit and A for receive. In the K2 A/B (I think) reverses these. This is a bit of a problem if you are using N1MM and running in split mode and tuning VFO A around. If you tune more than 300 Hz N1MM will toggle from Run to SP mode. The workaround is to either widen the CW tolerance (Config - Other) or turn off the Run/SP Toggle (Alt-F11). (Thanks to K3CT for pointing this out to me.) Not a big deal but maybe being able to switch which is the transmit and which is the receive VFO in split mode would be nice. Cheers, Fred, KE7X ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] k3 : Split Operation
I don't know if it would be possible to switch which VFO is used, but I'd like to be able to tune VFOB with the larger knob in split, since I'm trying to find the frequency the DX is listening on. Yes, I know I can switch A/B, but I want to spot the frequency and Tx without having to press a button and delay -- Being a System Administrator is like being a plumber. If you do a good job, nobody knows. If you screw up, everybody gets covered in s**t! On 8 Oct 2008, at 13:34, Cady, Fred wrote: Another thing about split operation is that the K3 defaults to using VFO B for transmit and A for receive. In the K2 A/B (I think) reverses these. This is a bit of a problem if you are using N1MM and running in split mode and tuning VFO A around. If you tune more than 300 Hz N1MM will toggle from Run to SP mode. The workaround is to either widen the CW tolerance (Config - Other) or turn off the Run/SP Toggle (Alt- F11). (Thanks to K3CT for pointing this out to me.) Not a big deal but maybe being able to switch which is the transmit and which is the receive VFO in split mode would be nice. Cheers, Fred, KE7X ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] k3 : Split Operation
Amen. Except for the stereo part so us non-lobotomized people can still use mono audio. (Like we have two ears to hear with for good reasons) Looked at the schematic for the audio output. Earphone output is coupled from the IC via caps only-no series resistors. I was considering wiring the two together (outside the box) to get mono audio when the sub rx engaged. Don't know what impact that would have. Each amp apparently can drive 16 ohms but not sure about everything else being OK. 73 de Brian/K3KO Ian White GM3SEK wrote: Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Not only does AB fail to transfer mode, CW in SSB does not work on VFO B. Its time to fix the user interface to transfer mode with frequency. It's certainly high time for the auto pileup split option that most other high-end rigs have had for years. If this option is selected, a single press on the SPLIT button would: 1. Activate the sub-rx in stereo mode 2. Clone *all* of the main rx settings to the sub-rx (if identical roofing filters are not available in the sub-rx, use the next one wider) 3. Shift VFO B to a user-programed frequency offset from VFO A. Another useful option would be steps 1 and 2 only; or of course none of the above. -- 73 from Ian GM3SEK http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/k3-%3A--Split-Operation-tp1298735p1306241.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] k3 : Split Operation
It's certainly high time for the auto pileup split option that most other high-end rigs have had for years. If this option is selected, a single press on the SPLIT button would.. 2. Clone *all* of the main rx settings to the sub-rx (if identical roofing filters are not available in the sub-rx, use the next one wider) FWIW, the Icom 7700 and 7800 transceivers require a press-and-hold function in order to transfer all data upon commencement of SPLIT. To accomplish this, the Quick Split option must be activated in their respective system menus. I only bring this up as an example of a competing high end brand SPLIT procedure. A similar Quick Split function as a menu option in the K3 would be a welcome addition. To accomplish the same task, the '7800 and '7700 require single press-and-hold button activations while the K3 requires three presses (i.e., double press AB, then a single press on SPLIT). Also, no combination of activating SPLIT activates the '7800's 2nd receiver -- unless that ability has alluded me in the menu system. Paul, W9AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] k3 : Split Operation
I don't know if it would be possible to switch which VFO is used, but I'd like to be able to tune VFOB with the larger knob in split, since I'm trying to find the frequency the DX is listening on. It's quite easy with the KRX3 ... turn on sub to listed to the DX station and use VFO A/Main for transmit and listening in the pile. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ferrington, M0XDF Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 8:39 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 : Split Operation I don't know if it would be possible to switch which VFO is used, but I'd like to be able to tune VFOB with the larger knob in split, since I'm trying to find the frequency the DX is listening on. Yes, I know I can switch A/B, but I want to spot the frequency and Tx without having to press a button and delay -- Being a System Administrator is like being a plumber. If you do a good job, nobody knows. If you screw up, everybody gets covered in s**t! On 8 Oct 2008, at 13:34, Cady, Fred wrote: Another thing about split operation is that the K3 defaults to using VFO B for transmit and A for receive. In the K2 A/B (I think) reverses these. This is a bit of a problem if you are using N1MM and running in split mode and tuning VFO A around. If you tune more than 300 Hz N1MM will toggle from Run to SP mode. The workaround is to either widen the CW tolerance (Config - Other) or turn off the Run/SP Toggle (Alt- F11). (Thanks to K3CT for pointing this out to me.) Not a big deal but maybe being able to switch which is the transmit and which is the receive VFO in split mode would be nice. Cheers, Fred, KE7X ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] k3 : Split Operation
Another useful option would be steps 1 and 2 only; or of course none of the above. My preference is to transfer frequency and mode only. Setting mode should restore the last used filter settings for that mode and (when VFO IND is implemented) I don't want A-B changing the preamp, AGC, RX Ant, etc. settings on the subreceiver. I've never found the automatic frequency offset (Quick Split) feature useful on any of the other radios. Still, as long as the offset can be set to zero it is effectively the same. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian White GM3SEK Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 5:59 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 : Split Operation Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Not only does AB fail to transfer mode, CW in SSB does not work on VFO B. Its time to fix the user interface to transfer mode with frequency. It's certainly high time for the auto pileup split option that most other high-end rigs have had for years. If this option is selected, a single press on the SPLIT button would: 1. Activate the sub-rx in stereo mode 2. Clone *all* of the main rx settings to the sub-rx (if identical roofing filters are not available in the sub-rx, use the next one wider) 3. Shift VFO B to a user-programed frequency offset from VFO A. Another useful option would be steps 1 and 2 only; or of course none of the above. -- 73 from Ian GM3SEK http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] k3 : Split Operation
Ah - now, I've got it, but not installed yet and I didn't realise I’d be ableb to do that - which i of course the whole point :-) -- Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that! -Lewis Carroll, mathematician and writer (1832-1898) On 8 Oct 2008, at 14:48, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: I don't know if it would be possible to switch which VFO is used, but I'd like to be able to tune VFOB with the larger knob in split, since I'm trying to find the frequency the DX is listening on. It's quite easy with the KRX3 ... turn on sub to listed to the DX station and use VFO A/Main for transmit and listening in the pile. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ferrington, M0XDF Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 8:39 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 : Split Operation I don't know if it would be possible to switch which VFO is used, but I'd like to be able to tune VFOB with the larger knob in split, since I'm trying to find the frequency the DX is listening on. Yes, I know I can switch A/B, but I want to spot the frequency and Tx without having to press a button and delay -- Being a System Administrator is like being a plumber. If you do a good job, nobody knows. If you screw up, everybody gets covered in s**t! On 8 Oct 2008, at 13:34, Cady, Fred wrote: Another thing about split operation is that the K3 defaults to using VFO B for transmit and A for receive. In the K2 A/B (I think) reverses these. This is a bit of a problem if you are using N1MM and running in split mode and tuning VFO A around. If you tune more than 300 Hz N1MM will toggle from Run to SP mode. The workaround is to either widen the CW tolerance (Config - Other) or turn off the Run/SP Toggle (Alt- F11). (Thanks to K3CT for pointing this out to me.) Not a big deal but maybe being able to switch which is the transmit and which is the receive VFO in split mode would be nice. Cheers, Fred, KE7X ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] k3 : Split Operation - update
according to my rev D1 K3 manual, pg37 VFO B controls the sub’s frequency, and is also the TX frequency during SPLIT (see details at right). and 'right' says SPLIT Mode with the Sub Receiver During split (SPLIT), VFO A is the receive frequency and VFO B the transmit frequency. If the sub receiver is on, you can listen to both receive and transmit frequencies, making DXing more convenient. You can set up the sub receiver’s filtering independently using BSET. So I think I can't do it, that is use the large knob to control the KRX3, thereby making tuning into the DX receive frequency easier. I don't see how you can do that, but not having the KRX3 installed yet doesn't help. (Note to self to promise to install after JOTA). 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- When you want to test the depths of a stream, don't use both feet. -Chinese Proverb On 8 Oct 2008, at 14:48, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: I don't know if it would be possible to switch which VFO is used, but I'd like to be able to tune VFOB with the larger knob in split, since I'm trying to find the frequency the DX is listening on. It's quite easy with the KRX3 ... turn on sub to listed to the DX station and use VFO A/Main for transmit and listening in the pile. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ferrington, M0XDF Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 8:39 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 : Split Operation I don't know if it would be possible to switch which VFO is used, but I'd like to be able to tune VFOB with the larger knob in split, since I'm trying to find the frequency the DX is listening on. Yes, I know I can switch A/B, but I want to spot the frequency and Tx without having to press a button and delay -- Being a System Administrator is like being a plumber. If you do a good job, nobody knows. If you screw up, everybody gets covered in s**t! On 8 Oct 2008, at 13:34, Cady, Fred wrote: Another thing about split operation is that the K3 defaults to using VFO B for transmit and A for receive. In the K2 A/B (I think) reverses these. This is a bit of a problem if you are using N1MM and running in split mode and tuning VFO A around. If you tune more than 300 Hz N1MM will toggle from Run to SP mode. The workaround is to either widen the CW tolerance (Config - Other) or turn off the Run/SP Toggle (Alt- F11). (Thanks to K3CT for pointing this out to me.) Not a big deal but maybe being able to switch which is the transmit and which is the receive VFO in split mode would be nice. Cheers, Fred, KE7X ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] k3 : Split Operation
great, thanks, I understand better now - oh I might just spend 4 hours on Sun and put the KRX3 in. Why haven't I you ask? Because I'm busying installing a permanent antenna system for use by Scouts and club members at our Scout hut and haven't had the time :-( 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- I believe I found the missing link between animal and civilized man. It is us. -Konrad Lorenz, ethologist, Nobel laureate (1903-1989) On 8 Oct 2008, at 16:47, K2ZLS wrote: K3 #703 FW2.46 Hi All: My KRX3 was recently installed and operates Perfectly. I can do ALL those things, like David said, [SUB] [SPLIT] moves the TX down to VFO B and the RX up to VFO A and you CAN tune the receiver with the BIG knob. BUT YOU MUST HAVE STEREO HEADPHONES to hear both sides in each ear. I started out with MONO headphones and had a fit trying to figure out why it wasnt working right. HI. 73's Tony K2ZLS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] k3 : Split Operation
Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Another useful option would be steps 1 and 2 only; or of course none of the above. My preference is to transfer frequency and mode only. Setting mode should restore the last used filter settings for that mode and (when VFO IND is implemented) I don't want A-B changing the preamp, AGC, RX Ant, etc. settings on the subreceiver. I've never found the automatic frequency offset (Quick Split) feature useful on any of the other radios. Still, as long as the offset can be set to zero it is effectively the same. Sometimes I'd prefer that too; it depends on the type of operating. The discussion only goes to show that SPLIT behavior needs to be configurable to suit a wide range of user preferences, and not too deeply buried in the menu system. -- 73 from Ian GM3SEK http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] k3 : Split Operation - update
So I think I can't do it, that is use the large knob to control the KRX3, thereby making tuning into the DX receive frequency easier. No, you don't use the large knob to control the KRX3. You said you wanted to use the large knob to tune the transmit frequency while listening to your transmit frequency. In that case you use the KRX3 to listen to the (fixed) DX frequency and tune your transmit frequency with VFO A and listen to your transmit frequency on the main receiver. Dual receive - not split. If you are the DX, set your transmit frequency on VFO B, enable dual receive and split. Tune the callers in the pile on VFO A. There is no reason to use the large knob to control the KRX3 since the KRX3 and main receivers are identical. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ferrington, M0XDF Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 10:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 : Split Operation - update according to my rev D1 K3 manual, pg37 VFO B controls the sub’s frequency, and is also the TX frequency during SPLIT (see details at right). and 'right' says SPLIT Mode with the Sub Receiver During split (SPLIT), VFO A is the receive frequency and VFO B the transmit frequency. If the sub receiver is on, you can listen to both receive and transmit frequencies, making DXing more convenient. You can set up the sub receiver’s filtering independently using BSET. So I think I can't do it, that is use the large knob to control the KRX3, thereby making tuning into the DX receive frequency easier. I don't see how you can do that, but not having the KRX3 installed yet doesn't help. (Note to self to promise to install after JOTA). 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- When you want to test the depths of a stream, don't use both feet. -Chinese Proverb On 8 Oct 2008, at 14:48, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: I don't know if it would be possible to switch which VFO is used, but I'd like to be able to tune VFOB with the larger knob in split, since I'm trying to find the frequency the DX is listening on. It's quite easy with the KRX3 ... turn on sub to listed to the DX station and use VFO A/Main for transmit and listening in the pile. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ferrington, M0XDF Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 8:39 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 : Split Operation I don't know if it would be possible to switch which VFO is used, but I'd like to be able to tune VFOB with the larger knob in split, since I'm trying to find the frequency the DX is listening on. Yes, I know I can switch A/B, but I want to spot the frequency and Tx without having to press a button and delay -- Being a System Administrator is like being a plumber. If you do a good job, nobody knows. If you screw up, everybody gets covered in s**t! On 8 Oct 2008, at 13:34, Cady, Fred wrote: Another thing about split operation is that the K3 defaults to using VFO B for transmit and A for receive. In the K2 A/B (I think) reverses these. This is a bit of a problem if you are using N1MM and running in split mode and tuning VFO A around. If you tune more than 300 Hz N1MM will toggle from Run to SP mode. The workaround is to either widen the CW tolerance (Config - Other) or turn off the Run/SP Toggle (Alt- F11). (Thanks to K3CT for pointing this out to me.) Not a big deal but maybe being able to switch which is the transmit and which is the receive VFO in split mode would be nice. Cheers, Fred, KE7X ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] k3 : Split Operation
To accomplish the same task, the '7800 and '7700 require single press-and-hold button activations while the K3 requires three presses (i.e., double press AB, then a single press on SPLIT). Also, no combination of activating SPLIT activates the '7800's 2nd receiver -- unless that ability has alluded me in the menu system. I'm looking forward to Qick Split too, but meanwhile there is a tip to save a precious second when hear UP. My VFO B is always linked to VFO A plus 1 kHz, as this is the most common offset. I have only to press SPLIT and I am firing on the DX receiving frequency. Later if needed unlink VFO B for better tuning. 73' Val LZ1VB ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] k3 : Split Operation
If you hit AB twice it transfers all VFO A info to B including the mode. Fred Cady fcady at ieee dot org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth Waites Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 6:57 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] k3 : Split Operation Frequently when I split on CW, I find I have to go thru the steps of changing the mode on VFO B. Why not have a feature that switches it to CW if I hit the key within 5 seconds? Ken K5WK This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] k3 : Split Operation
Not only does AB fail to transfer mode, CW in SSB does not work on VFO B. Its time to fix the user interface to transfer mode with frequency. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth Waites Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 8:57 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] k3 : Split Operation Frequently when I split on CW, I find I have to go thru the steps of changing the mode on VFO B. Why not have a feature that switches it to CW if I hit the key within 5 seconds? Ken K5WK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] k3 : Split Operation
when clicking on a DX4WIN spot, I now need to click twice... once for the freq and a second time if the mode is different also when split is called for, the vfo b gets it , but the K3 only flashes split then retains the non split mode. The ICOM goes to split and gets the vfo freq mode , as one would expect. bill At 11:56 AM 10/5/2008, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Not only does AB fail to transfer mode, CW in SSB does not work on VFO B. Its time to fix the user interface to transfer mode with frequency. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth Waites Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 8:57 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] k3 : Split Operation Frequently when I split on CW, I find I have to go thru the steps of changing the mode on VFO B. Why not have a feature that switches it to CW if I hit the key within 5 seconds? Ken K5WK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] k3 : Split Operation
B-A was broken by the change as well - since it is available only as a programmable function, the second keypress needed to transfer mode isn't possible! Bob NW8L On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not only does AB fail to transfer mode, CW in SSB does not work on VFO B. Its time to fix the user interface to transfer mode with frequency. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] [K3] Split Operation in contest
What about using a macro that would issue an A/B and a split off. Use another macro that would issue an A/B and a split on. Bob Serwy - N9RS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olivier F5MZN Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 5:12 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] Split Operation in contest Hi - We switched to K3's for our contest station FY5KE, in replacements of our 20-year old Kenwood TS-850. We are now getting ready our equipment for the coming contest season. So far so good, we are quite happy with the K3 which is really a great radio. There is only one detail I would like to have your opinion about. From everywhere outside US, we are used to operate split on 40 (and sometimes on 80 as well), transmitting and also sometimes listening in the European segment as well (you know, listening 7205 and my frequency, for example). With our Kenwood radios, we had an external toggle switch located just near the computer keyboard. This switch was connected to the ACC3 connector (front panel remote) of the TS-850 in order to remotely command the TF-SET button. That way, we were able to easely choose which of the TX or RX frequency to listen. Using such an external switch, it was not necessary to hold the finger on the TF-SET button and this was very confortable. The REV button of the K3 is relatively similar to the TS-850's TF-SET one, except that it is not possible to transmit when this switch is pressed. It means that the op must think to release the REV button before any transmission (and to press it right after the end of the transmission if he need to listen again his TX frequency). On the other hand, it is necessary to hold the finger on that button which is not confortable, especially when operating SOAB. I wonder if someone around got a way to deal with that problem. Of course, a the possible solution would be to get the sub-receiver... which we didn't included in our order! An easy way would be to have a new entry in the menu in order to modify the behaviour of the REV button in that manner: a single tap on the REV button will focus the headphones to the TX frequency. Another single tap on the REV button will focus back the headphone to the split frequency (normal split operation). I wonder if that would be possible to implement such a behaviour in the next firmware. Thanks in anticipation for your comments, Best 73, -- Olivier / F5MZN, op at FY5KE, TM2Y, TM6I ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
