Re: [O] tyuyyyjkkllkklll
My. Thoughts. Exactly. On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 8:46 PM, jean-jacques Rétorré jj.reto...@gmail.com wrote: l))l
[O] Insert a heading in every sibling
I'm using org-mode to keep track of student grades. How can I easily add a bunch of identical headings at a certain level in my tree? Specifically,I have a L2 heading for each student, and I want to put a node (heading, with some properties) under each L2 student heading for that class. * Class One ** Sarah Adams *** Essay One Here is my comment to the student on their essay. The grade/mark itself will be stored as a property or priority. HERE I'd like to add a node for Essay Two ** John Smith *** Essay One Comment on John's essay. I to add the same node skeleton here, automatically ** Sally Lovelace *** Essay One Comment on Sally's essay. And here. * Class Two ** Ralph Friendly ** Sam Hudson Thanks, Scot
Re: [O] Full org-mode on unrooted Android
I also have a bunch of *.map files in that directory. And am also on Nexus 7 (2013). Oddly, on this tablet Charles and I /don't/' have an sdcard, since there is no physical slot for it. (I assume the directory is so labeled for compatibility, and ---in case it helps--- points to '/storage/emulated/0') You actually have an SD card and get no 'emacs' directory. I wonder if the /emacs directory got installed to another place, or if it somehow didn't get installed at all. I'll revoke my bug fixed comment on the bug I filed on the developers' bug tracker http://bugs.dyne.org/, and reference this conversation. Oddly, just now that server is unreachable to me. I did just send a short note on their web-contact form https://www.dyne.org/contact/, where you can also find their IRC channel, if you want to contact them. I have since had a little more trouble with org-mode on Zhaolin using 16pt font. (odd cursor jump after column 70). I don't seem to have the problem with 20pt font (which limits the terminal size). Please scold me if HTML email and links are unwelcome. I haven't been active on this list in a few years, and forget the protocol. I hope this eventually works well. I may try a full linux as instead, but org-mode on non-rooted Android is useful. Scot On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.comwrote: On 24.10.2013, at 18:22, Charles Philip Chan cpc...@bell.net wrote: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: Hi Carsten: 0.7.1, and to problem is still present. Strange, what happens when you do a: , | ls /sdcard/emacs/etc/charsets ` Not even the emacs directory on the sdcard exists. And yes, I *do* have an sdcard... Reinstalling dos not work. - Carsten I see a list of charsets files (files with extension .map) on my Nexus 7. If you don't see them, try reinstalling the system to see if it helps. Charles -- However, complexity is not always the enemy. -- Larry Wall (Open Sources, 1999 O'Reilly and Associates)
Re: [O] Full org-mode on unrooted Android
Drat. I had that problem at the beginning too. I filed a bug report and a
little later, things worked. I assumed they had fixed it. I'll have a
look in that directory to see what's there. Meanwhile, perhaps a reboot,
or a rerun the command download system in Zshaolin.
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 8.10.2013, at 12:36, Scot Becker scot.bec...@gmail.com wrote:
Just a quick note to say that it's possible to get a full Emacs+org-mode
on (unrooted) Android using an app called 'zshaolin'. You can either
download the app from the Google Play store for approx $3 or download the
toolchain and source from their website and compile it yourself (which I
haven't tried).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dyne.zshaolinhl=en
http://www.dyne.org/software/zshaolin/
(for source, follow links to their FTP site, about 2/3 down the page)
Emacs is version 24.1.50.
I just tried it, and when I start emacs I get an error message that the
directory /sdcard/emacs/etc is not present. Emacs seems to look there for
a file called charsets. Does anyone know what I am missing here?
Thanks
- Carsten
The following needs to be added to the .zshrc for org-mode to work:
export TMPDIR=${HOME}/tmp
They only claim 'barebone' Emacs, and I haven't tested extensively to
see what that means, but so far it works for me.
I have no affiliation with the people at dyne.org, just happy to have
working portable, org-mode. I use a Bluetooth keyboard with a 7 tablet on
Android 4.3.
It looks like compiling in this case may not be for the faint of heart,
but if someone tries it, perhaps they can post any notes to the list here.
Cheers,
Scot
Re: [O] Full org-mode on unrooted Android
Alex,
That also sounds like a good way to carry Emacs/org with your, if the
battery life hit isn't too big, (is it?) and if it's possible to keep the
system running in the background (do you do ths?)
Emacs for Android didn't work for me at all, and seems not to be currently
maintained.
After some more experiments I see that although Zhaolin works pretty well
with an external keyboard, the terminal emulator seems to have more trouble
with the soft keyboard popping up and down. I do have press ESC then Enter
to get a new org heading. ALT+Enter doesn't seem to work.
Scot
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Alexander Vorobiev
alexander.vorob...@gmail.com wrote:
There is also emacs for Android
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zielm.emacs but
after trying it and playing with some other ports of unix
applications, I decided to bit the bullet and install full Ubuntu on
my Galaxy Note 8 using
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid
.
The tablet/phone needs to be rooted though (the installer needs to be
able to create and mount loopback device for the Linux disk image) but
for the popular devices it is not difficult at all (but You will
probably lose your warranty though).
Now I have my regular emacs setup with org-mode, ess, AucTeX, tramp,
etc, and all the tools I am used to - ssh, R, gcc, etc. I use it in
console mode using Android terminal, regular Ubuntu GUI is also
available through VNC client. There is no dual-boot or virtualization
involved, all it does is chroot in the terminal session, Android's
Linux kernel is standard enough to make Ubuntu happy.
Regards,
Alex
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 3:07 AM, Ian Barton li...@wilkesley.net wrote:
On 08/10/13 11:36, Scot Becker wrote:
Just a quick note to say that it's possible to get a full Emacs+org-mode
on (unrooted) Android using an app called 'zshaolin'. You can either
download the app from the Google Play store for approx $3 or download
the toolchain and source from their website and compile it yourself
(which I haven't tried).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dyne.zshaolinhl=en
http://www.dyne.org/software/zshaolin/
(for source, follow links to their FTP site, about 2/3 down the page)
Emacs is version 24.1.50.
The following needs to be added to the .zshrc for org-mode to work:
export TMPDIR=${HOME}/tmp
Thanks for sharing. I have been using emacs via ssh on my Nexus 7.
However,
obviously this only works if I can get an Internet connection. So far
this
setup looks as though it will meet all my simple mobile needs, which are
just to edit my org files in native Emacs.
I see that git is also built in. I haven't tested it yet, but if it
works I
can just pull and push my org files from my repos, rather than copying
them
to the Nexus manually.
Ian.
[O] Full org-mode on unrooted Android
Just a quick note to say that it's possible to get a full Emacs+org-mode on
(unrooted) Android using an app called 'zshaolin'. You can either download
the app from the Google Play store for approx $3 or download the toolchain
and source from their website and compile it yourself (which I haven't
tried).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dyne.zshaolinhl=en
http://www.dyne.org/software/zshaolin/
(for source, follow links to their FTP site, about 2/3 down the page)
Emacs is version 24.1.50.
The following needs to be added to the .zshrc for org-mode to work:
export TMPDIR=${HOME}/tmp
They only claim 'barebone' Emacs, and I haven't tested extensively to see
what that means, but so far it works for me.
I have no affiliation with the people at dyne.org, just happy to have
working portable, org-mode. I use a Bluetooth keyboard with a 7 tablet on
Android 4.3.
It looks like compiling in this case may not be for the faint of heart, but
if someone tries it, perhaps they can post any notes to the list here.
Cheers,
Scot
Re: [O] Org Writer's room
As a now-seldom but was-daily user of Org-mode (work changed) who has long been fascinated with Scrivener. I think this project is a great idea. And emacs/org seems a very fertile ground to implement it in. Scot On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Matt Price mopto...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Alan L Tyree alanty...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/12/12 11:22, Rasmus wrote: Andrew Hyatt ahy...@gmail.com writes: This sounds like an interesting project. My advice is to make a few screenshots that give people an idea what you are working towards. Of course, they could be completely fake, but it would be helpful to understand for people like me who haven't used Scrivener. I would also like to see this. It sounds nice when I read your description, but I still don't fully appreciate the idea. –Rasmus I'm also very interested. I haven't used Scrivener -- what features do you see as making org a *way* better writing environment? Cheers, Alan -- Alan L Tyreehttp://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: 04 2748 6206 sip:172...@iptel.org Hi Everyone, Sorry, I sent that last email off too quickly as I was realizing that I actually had /work/ to do while I was at work... Scrivener is a really neat program, which is designed to help writers organize and manage large writing problems while staying focused on the actual task of writing. Like org-mode, it has pretty powerful tools for manipulating the structure of a text; in general it is (from what I can tell) way less powerful than org-mode (what isn't?) but for a writer that may sometimes be an advantage -- it removes distractions. From what I can tell (and I am not a very experienced user) one of the main attractions of Scrivener is the metaphors it uses to organize your work. Each project is called a 'Binder'; it's where you keep your drafts, your notes, and any supporting materials for your project. When you work on a project, you can open up your binder and look at the materials on a 2-dimensional canvas to sort through them. So, it's like taking your papers out of your binder and spreading them out on your desk. Each element in a binder is also represented as an index card. On the front of hte index card is a title and a synopsis; on the back is the actual text you've been writing. In combination, these two metaphors are a really helpful way of thinking about your project, I think. In org-mode, it would be very difficult to replicate the almost-tactile feel of dragging index cards around a canvas to organize them. (the .org file structure is actually probably really well-suited to this, but one would need to write a whole other program,I imagine in Javascript/HTML5, to implement the dragging). However, some of the cool things about the Scrivener interface *can* be implemented in org. Take a look at the attached screenshots. I admire the 3-column layout, with an outline view in the left-hand column, metadata displayed on the right-hand side, and a main panel in the center which is used either to display index-card representations of the document structure, or the actual text that one intends to edit. To start with I would like to just replicate this window structure, because it keeps you focused on writing, while having the larger structure available if you feel the need to flit around a bit. The third screenshot shows a semi-fake, still very primitive version of what I'd like to have. (I haven't figured out a good way to do the metadata yet). Does this help clarify a bit? Anyone think it's interesting?
Re: [Accepted] [O] New option to create unique, random labels for footnotes.
I like this, Matt! On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Bastien Guerry b...@altern.org wrote: Patch 680 (http://patchwork.newartisans.com/patch/680/) is now Accepted. Maintainer comment: none This relates to the following submission: http://mid.gmane.org/%3C87y64ji2hj.fsf%40fastmail.fm%3E Here is the original message containing the patch: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [O] New option to create unique, random labels for footnotes. Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 18:50:59 - From: Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org X-Patchwork-Id: 680 Message-Id: 87y64ji2hj@fastmail.fm To: Org Mode emacs-orgmode@gnu.org * lisp/org-footnote.el: (org-footnote-auto-label): New random option * lisp/org-footnote.el: (org-footnote-new): Create random footnote labels with unique ids --- lisp/org-footnote.el | 16 1 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) diff --git a/lisp/org-footnote.el b/lisp/org-footnote.el index 2ce6668..9dbd6be 100644 --- a/lisp/org-footnote.el +++ b/lisp/org-footnote.el @@ -113,12 +113,14 @@ t create unique labels of the form [fn:1], [fn:2], ... confirmlike t, but let the user edit the created value. In particular, the label can be removed from the minibuffer, to create an anonymous footnote. +random Automatically generate a unique, random label. plain Automatically create plain number labels like [1] :group 'org-footnote :type '(choice (const :tag Prompt for label nil) (const :tag Create automatic [fn:N] t) (const :tag Offer automatic [fn:N] for editing confirm) + (const :tag Create a random label random) (const :tag Create automatic [N] plain))) (defcustom org-footnote-auto-adjust nil @@ -253,16 +255,22 @@ This command prompts for a label. If this is a label referencing an existing label, only insert the label. If the footnote label is empty or new, let the user edit the definition of the footnote. (interactive) - (let* ((labels (org-footnote-all-labels)) + (let* ((labels (and (not (equal org-footnote-auto-label 'random)) + (org-footnote-all-labels))) (propose (org-footnote-unique-label labels)) (label - (if (member org-footnote-auto-label '(t plain)) - propose + (cond +((member org-footnote-auto-label '(t plain)) + propose) +((equal org-footnote-auto-label 'random) + (require 'org-id) + (substring (org-id-uuid) 0 8)) +(t (completing-read Label (leave empty for anonymous): (mapcar 'list labels) nil nil (if (eq org-footnote-auto-label 'confirm) propose nil) - 'org-footnote-label-history + 'org-footnote-label-history) (setq label (org-footnote-normalize-label label)) (cond ((equal label )
Re: [O] Professional PDF LaTeX templates?
And the question is not just 'what do YOU think is professional, but (as always with LaTeX) just want kind/genre of document are you interested in producing? A question like yours has to be answered separately for each distinct type of document. Scot
Re: [O] Other programs to edit Org documents?
A simple org-mode viewer (that allows you to do some basic folding/unfolding and search -- or even something more complex that would allow you to view it as a mind-map?) would be nice. It could even be simplified with more GUI bells and whistles and still allow one to insert data and save the file. It would not be a full replacement for emacs, ever, but would allow other less technical users to use it as well. There are all kinds of advantages to this, seems to me, and of course it partly exists in the form of Moblie Org. Org-mode is both an interface and a specification, you could say (as well as a friendly club). And you can work with the latter (the markup specification) apart from the former if you have need to. A web-app for viewing and editing org-mode files would open nice possibilities for collaboration with the not-yet-initiated and for using your files when you are away-from-emacs. Scot
[O] Re: latex export issue
Looks good, but I can't get it to work. To test it, can I just evaluate the two sexp's in the block you gave inside a scratch buffer, then switch to my trial org file and export to LaTeX? Trying the OP's sample file gives the same results before and after I evaluate this new bit of code, but I suspect I'm doing something wrong Scot On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Nicolas n.goaz...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Scot Becker scot.bec...@gmail.com writes: That sounds like it means that any documents you might want to export to LaTeX (and format with hard line breaks) should always have non-breaking spaces after the periods---or you should keep a manual eye on your paragraph formatting to make sure no numbers come first on the line. Would that work for you? #+begin_src emacs-lisp (defun org-fill-item-nobreak-p () Non-nil when line break would insert a new item. (and (looking-at (org-item-re)) (org-list-in-valid-block-p))) (add-to-list 'fill-nobreak-predicate 'org-fill-item-nobreak-p) #+end_src If it is fine, we may as well include it by default in Org. Regards, -- Nicolas
[O] Re: latex export issue
Ah, right. I did misunderstand. Yes, that seems like a good solution. Scot On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Nicolas n.goaz...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Scot Becker scot.bec...@gmail.com writes: Looks good, but I can't get it to work. To test it, can I just evaluate the two sexp's in the block you gave inside a scratch buffer, then switch to my trial org file and export to LaTeX? Yes, but I guess you misunderstand the goal of the snippet. It will not fix export (which isn't broken in that case) but will prevent auto-fill-mode from creating a new item by cutting line at a wrong position i.e. you won't have to keep an eye on the formatting anymore. Regards, -- Nicolas
Re: [O] Re: latex export issue
That sounds like it means that any documents you might want to export to LaTeX (and format with hard line breaks) should always have non-breaking spaces after the periods---or you should keep a manual eye on your paragraph formatting to make sure no numbers come first on the line. Although I really like the new list code (many, many thanks, Nicolas!), this does seem an unfortunate (if rare) little 'gotcha' arising from it. I hadn't realized that lists are triggered with no indentation at all. Scot On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:46 PM, Nicolas n.goaz...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Stephen Eglen s.j.eg...@damtp.cam.ac.uk writes: With the following minimal org buffer: Simple test here here here here here here here here here here here here here here 2010. here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here here This is modified from a real case; is there any way that the 2010. can be interpreted as the end of the sentence rather than the start of a enumerate list? (I have fixed it for now by reformatting my paragraph so that 2010 does not begin the line.) I get similar behaviour with html export. I usually suggest to insert a non-breakable space just after the dot. Thus, the pattern doesn't match definition of a numbered list item anymore. Regards, -- Nicolas
Re: [Orgmode] Another LaTeX export corner case...
Is this a bug, or something that I must learn an Org incantation to work
around?
Well it's a bug in the sense that it's undesirable behaviour. I use the
somewhat ugly workaround of just switching to LaTeX \footnote{} commands
just for those footnotes where I need optional arguments. But I'd be glad
not to have to mix footnote commands.
Scot
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Re: [Orgmode] Pandoc can now do Org
Puneeth, Very cool! This opens up a lot of nice importers for org-mode. Scot On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Puneeth puncha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jeff, On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:54 AM, Jeff Horn jrhorn...@gmail.com wrote: Nice! I looked at pandoc once but don't remember a lot about it. How well does your importer handle math? The LaTeX reader (and therefore the Orgmode writer) of pandoc does math pretty well. You may want to try it, to see if it fits your needs. But some other things are broken and need to be fixed. It doesn't seem to have table support, as of now. Also, it seems to parse some environments incorrectly as quote environments. I didn't look at the source, so I do not know for sure. -- Puneeth ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Bastien is going to become the maintainer of Org mode in January
Org-mode is just a cool way to organize, to write, to collect and keep data. Many thanks to you, Carsten, for your imagination and hard work, and to you Bastien, for your willingness to carry this torch further. Scot ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] include an .org file and lower the level of all its headers
Jianshi, I've never heard of any way to do that with an #+INCLUDE. There are variables that automatically demote subtrees that you yank in with CTRL-Y, but that's a hard-INCLUDE, so to speak, and you probably have your reasons for wanting to keep them in separate files. Scot On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Jianshi Huang jianshi.hu...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I know I can include any file using #+INCLUDE. I need to include several org files, but they were edited independently as a complete document. Now I want to lower the levels of headers in these org files automatically during inclusion. Is there a way to do that? Cheers, Jianshi ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] [WISH] Org Importers
Jambunathan, (2) could be useful but a bit far-fetched at the moment. Really? Lots of us track changes with git, sometimes by means of one of the Emacs interfaces for it like Magit. You may be thinking of some interface-level features which aren't available by this method, like the ability to annotate changes in the same place you make them, I suppose. But working this way has a lot of 'features' that track changes doesn't. Scot ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: epresent and Org-mode: using Emacs to run presentations of Org-mode docs
Eric, This is cool and very useful. Thanks. This must be Zeitgeist-y because I was thinking about preparing presentations in Emacs this week. Then I saw slidy, now this and s5. Here's a further idea, to see what people think. Do you think it would be possible to make a temporary org-mode display configuration to display org-mode-written presentations (similar to epresent) without leaving org mode, and leaving the displayed slides editable? I once saw a video of someone doing a live presentation on something Emacs-y and he did the presentation by typing headlines, lists and detail in a clean Emacs buffer as he went along, similar to the way that some teachers might write out subject headings or outlines on the chalkboard or overhead projector as they lecture. I liked this a lot. As I see it, for less formal presentation situations, it lets you annotate and record class discussions discussions. It also lets the talk proceed in a less scripted manner: you can for example re-work the problem on the fly according to the way the group has defined it in the moment, not only according to the way you planned it at home. But doing it on the fly means that you don't have any of the advantages of typical slide-style presentations: an outline to prompt you, important figures, tables and visuals already there, links, detail, and the rest, pre-assembled. I've wondered whether org mode might not be a nice vehicle to combine these things. For example, you create your script (just like in Eric's ' present.org'), but instead of showing in a custom display mode, you actually tweak the display parameters of org-mode itself to look slide-like (no stars, bigger fonts for titles, invisible /markup characters/, etc.), and then display the slides by displaying each top level subtree in a narrowed buffer one at a time. You add key bindings for moving back and forth, even perhaps a temporary minor mode for single key frame navigation that you could go in and out of (vi-like, I suppose). This way you'd be in (a slightly modified) org mode all the time, and could edit as you go, using all the structural features of org mode, and at the end you'd have a neat record of the way the lecture actually went, that you could distribute as you wish. Can anyone think why this might not be doable? Scot 2010/10/28 Łukasz Stelmach lukasz.stelm...@iem.pw.edu.pl Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com writes: Phil Hagelberg recently introduced me to epresent.el by Tom Tromey. It's a very nice little utility for giving presentations using Emacs as the display engine. [...] http://github.com/eschulte/epresent (instructions in the README) I am preparing a talk about org-mode. I've decided to use org-s5 but I'm starting to hesitate :-) -- Miłego dnia, Łukasz Stelmach ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: RE [Orgmode] Re: Issues with org-mode and LaTeX export.
I do hear you about not wanting to add maintenance overhead to yourself, but
when they install the new Emacs, you even then may find you need a more
recent recent org-mode release in your home directory. It does come with
Emacs, to be sure, but they've been quite conservative about their cutoff
dates, so even a brand new Emacs version typically has an org-mode version
which has been significantly improved upon.
sb
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com wrote:
gerald.j...@dgag.ca wrote:
I tried this:
#+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{longtable}
No effects?
AFAIK, the quotes are not necessary, but the reason it's not
working is indeed that your version of org-mode doesn't know about
LATEX_HEADER at all.
It was implemented with this commit:
commit 20364d043a51c3c71493369c58a43b49566dbdaa
Author: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com
Date: Thu Oct 2 15:00:14 2008 +0200
Implement #+LATEX_HEADER special.
Proposed by Austin Frank and apparently also by Russel Adams.
which I believe appeared in
release_6.08
Note that the commit is two years old.
I also looked at the manual to selectively export a part of the org
file. They talk about the org-export-select-tags and
org-export-exclude-tags; these variables don't even exist?
They do. Are you still using that old org version 5.x? If so, well,
then maybe there were no such variables. And somewhen in org version
6.x the export facilities were completely rewritten, so I guess you are
pretty alone with your problems unless you get a recent version.
For the time being I am stuck with this version. I am sending a request
to
our IT group to upgrade Emacs to the most recent version for the version
of
RedHat we have, this should have a more recent version of org-mode, if I
am
lucky that should be done in a couple weeks. In the mean time I will
manually add, or exclude, what I want from the exported *.tex file.
A couple of weeks?!? And you are not even sure which version of emacs
and org-mode you are going to get? I'd say, build your own: get
emacs/orgmode from the git mirror and build it yourself, install it in
your home directory if necessary. Even if it takes you a week or two to
get it done, at the end of it you'll be much better off at the end of
it.
If you have a community of users, this might be more difficult, but maybe
you can exercise concerted pressure on your IT dept: they might be more
willing to listen to ten people than to one.
If you are reasonably comfortable with git and make, it should only take
an hour or so to update/build/install; and assuming you stay with
released versions, you will only have to do that every couple of
months.
In addition, depending on what emacs version you have, you might be able
to run recent org-mode even if your emas is old (certainly on emacs 23,
probably on emacs 22, and just maybe on emacs 21, although I'm not sure
about these). That might be enough for your purposes and it reduces
time requirements to just a few minutes every month or two.
FWIW, the only use I have of whatever emacs gets installed with a system
is to bootstrap the latest emacs/orgmode: after that, it's deleted (or
at least, never used again).
Nick
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Re: [Orgmode] Latex Export
I guess you have an ancient version of org mode. (do M-x org-version, after org-mode has started. Current release version is 7.01h). See how to get the latest version here: http://orgmode.org/manual/Installation.html#Installation And find the link to the latest version on: http://orgmode.org Org mode has expanded exponentially since the version it looks like you have. If you want the very latest, follow the instructions on installing the development version. Scot On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Chris Malone cmal...@mail.astro.sunysb.edu wrote: Hi, I'm using emacs version 22.2.1 on a Fedora Core 9 machine. I'm new to org-mode and am interested in using it to write LaTeX documents/Beamer presentations. When I load the export dispatcher with C-c C-e, however, I do not have the l option for LaTeX export; I only have the following: [t] insert the export option template [v] limit export to visible part of outline tree [a] export as ASCII [h] export as HTML [b] export as HTML and browse immediately [x] export as XOXO [i] export current file as iCalendar file [I] export all agenda files as iCalendar files [c] export agenda files into combined iCalendar file [F] publish current file [P] publish current project [X] publish... (project will be prompted for) [A] publish all projects Is there something that I need to turn on in my .emacs file or an additional module that needs to be installed to have access to the LaTeX exporter? Chris ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] how difficultwould it be to support zotero in org?
Jean, Even though I knew about this development at Zotero, It didn't occur to me that it might help org-Zotero integration. This is (or will be) pretty cool, when it happens. And I see that they already have the beginnings of an alpha release: http://www.zotero.org/blog/zotero-everywhere-first-look/ Scot On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Jean-Marie Gaillourdet j...@gaillourdet.net wrote: Hi, sorry to bring up this old thread, but there rather are rather new developments at Zotero which might interesting to people here. See below. On 03.09.2010, at 22:12, Scot Becker wrote: Another Zotero + org user here. Right now I do what Christian does: export Zotero to slightly tweaked BibTeX, and insert with RefTeX's amazingly cool reference-insertion interface (another genius piece of work by Carsten). I can think of two profitable ways to make inserting references from one's Zotero database into org-mode notes better, and one further way that org-mode could be more tightly linked with Zotero. 1) A utility (presumably part firefox plugin) which keeps a BibTeX file in sync with one of Zotero's collections. That way you don't have to do a full manual export of your Zotero collection every time you add or change something. RefTeX provides the citation insertion interface. Something similar this to exists for LyX. It doesn't sync a whole Z. collection, but creates a .bib file with the items you actually cite in your document. The author (an Emacs user) even considered generalizing it for use without LyX runing, i.e. for Emacs, but didn't find enough steam (after all, he uses LyX). (I also know that Mendeley can be made to auto-import from Zotero and to auto-export to BibTeX, but Mendeley's BibTeX export is not flexible.) Zotero.org announced a new desktop application which will use a public available read/write api to the Zotero service: With full read/write access to bibliographic data, attached files like PDFs, and the citation formatting engine, developers will be able to integrate a full range of Zotero features into their own web, mobile, and desktop applications, and users will be able to take advantage of this functionality at zotero.org. See http://www.zotero.org/blog/zoteros-next-big-step/ for more details. This should make it possible to use an official api to implement the use case described above. 2) a org-mode-specific plain-text citation mechanism, analogous to BibTeX, but useful for both LaTeX and non-LaTeX exports. It would presumably have a CSL backend, and work the way that citeproc-hs works for pandoc. Presumably it could also use a RefTeX-like interface for citation insertion. 3) Easier ways to take reading notes (in org) on items in the Zotero database, with two way linking. (Thanks already for the tips in this thread.) Regards, Jean ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Header levels and section numbering 3, in LaTeX export
Indraneel,
Thanks Scot, exactlt what I was looking for, and I was actually
deliberating on the Tractacus!
Funny. Glad it looks like it may work.
I couldn't get easylist to understand the
\star symbol that orgmode uses. Do you know how to do that?
No. You might have seen the footnote in the easylist documentation
(on p. 2) which says:
You might not be happy with the symbols and maybe you'd like to use
another one, or simply have your favorite symbol
as default to avoid remembering such a cumbersome name as 'pilcrow'.
Here's a simple hack that does the job: select the
entire code of the package, and replace all occurrences of Ÿ (-- the
pilcrow) with your symbol. Make sure you won't use it in the list for
other purposes, though.
I've not tried this, however. It would be nice if there were a dead
easy way to get easylist and org-mode to work well together, since the
two are very natural partners. Let me know if you can make this work.
And also to skip
the first 3 stars in a level4 heading (if I want to retain latex's default
top 3 levels)?
I've never actually gone all the way to making a document
easy-to-publish with Easylist. I've just manually converted
org-mode's stars to a character Easylist can understand, then manually
wrapped the whole thing in a LaTeX preamble. The ideal would be to
automate the process, perhaps by using org-babel and putting your
easylist sections in special code blocks. But I've not taken the time
to figure all that out.
Failing that, I bet you could do a halfway hack with minimal amount of
manual work. For example (if I understand you correctly), you could
make an org document like this:
* Regular org heading
** Subheading
** Here's a third-level heading
STARTLIST
My first thesis, which is longer and wordier than it probably should be.
* Of course it's nothing compared to the length of its supporting arguments
* Both of them
Here is my second thesis, as convincing as the first
ENDLIST
Org-mode will let you do all of that, just fine. Then either
manually, or with a temporary latex export hook, do something like
this:
replace STARTLIST with \begin{easylist} and ENDLIST with \end{easylist}
replace ' ' with ' ' and '* ' with ' ' and ** ' with ' ', etc.
If you do it in an export hook, I think you'd want to do it in one
that runs before everything else. That way org-mode will leave
everthing in your easylist environment alone. What that will do to
quotation marks and /emphasis/ I don't know.
This should leave you with an easylist which starts at level '1', in a
document which uses org's header levels 1-3 in the normal latex way.
Is that what you want?
Make sure in the preamble, you have \usepackage[ampersand]{easylist}
Let me know if you need help figuring any of this out in detail.
That's just a rough sketch.
Cheers,
Scot
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: [PATCH] Compiling multiple times the LaTeX output
How about introducing a #+LATEX_CMD: option in org-mode? (and default to pdflatex) Yes, please! I use xelatex almost exclusively since it has unicode support for non-latin scripts. And increasingly, some will presumably want to use LuaTeX, which I'm told is slated to replace pdflatex in the longer term as the standard latex processing engine. Scot ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Header levels and section numbering 3, in LaTeX export
And if you just want deeply nested numbered paragraphs, like lists.
You might try the Easylist package:
http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/easylist.html
You'd have to do a tweak or to to get org-mode to export to easylist,
but it shouldn't be too complicated, since easylist takes its input in
a format almost exactly like org's native outline structure.
Scot
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com wrote:
Kai k...@limist.com wrote:
With a .org file having headers 4-5 levels deep (e.g. This
Section), I'd like the LaTeX export to treat it as a subsubsubsection
with numbering, e.g. 1.1.1.1. But no luck, and I'm not sure whether
I'm doing something wrong with org-mode, or need to customize my LaTeX
template. In the org file I have:
#+OPTIONS: H:5 num:t
...which does give the TeX markup of \label{sec-1_1_1_1} in the .tex
file, but the header text is wrapped in a \paragraph{The Header},
instead of \subsubsubsection{The Header}.
Is there a way to have the org-mode LaTeX export mark that up as a
subsubsubsection? I'm using the org-mode trunk. Thanks in advance
for any help,
This is a LaTeX limitation (if you want to call it that), not an orgmode
one. See
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=subsubsub
for some workarounds/comments/references (but be prepared for at least some
strangeness).
HTH,
Nick
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: [PATCH] Compiling multiple times the LaTeX output
As soon as I can, I'll give the patch a test using XeLaTeX as well. It'd be great to have this feature also be able to run xelatex instead of pdflatex to support that toolchain as well (for its better UTF-8 support and OpenType font integration). I expect this to be easy, because as far as I can tell the output/error/warning messages are the same. Scot 2010/10/4 Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com: Hi Sebastian, Thanks for the patch! I would certainly have a better way to process these files. My questions: 1. Can we run bibtex only if we have an indication that it might be needed? Maybe by looking at the output of the first LaTeX run? Hmm, maybe this would not work if only the bibtex database file was changed. 2. The contrill structures you are using, are they standard shell or is bash needed for this? 3. Maybe we can extract a useful error message if the last PDFLaTeX run still contains problems? Maybe even load the log file in this case? Thanks! - Carsten On Oct 1, 2010, at 11:17 PM, Sébastien Vauban wrote: Here is my (much) better proposition: --8---cut here---start-8--- diff --git a/lisp/org-latex.el b/lisp/org-latex.el index 9a62457..0a2c5fe 100644 --- a/lisp/org-latex.el +++ b/lisp/org-latex.el @@ -455,25 +455,35 @@ allowed. The default we use here encompasses both. :group 'org-export-latex :group 'org-export) +(defcustom org-latex-pdf-max-runs 3 + Maximum number of times PDFLaTeX is run after BibTeX. + :group 'org-export-pdf + :type 'int) + (defcustom org-latex-to-pdf-process - '(pdflatex -interaction nonstopmode -output-directory %o %f - pdflatex -interaction nonstopmode -output-directory %o %f) + `(pdflatex -interaction nonstopmode -output-directory %o %f + bibtex %b + ,(concat let COUNTER=0; while (grep -e \Rerun .* cross-references\ %b.log /dev/null); do if [ $COUNTER -eq + (int-to-string org-latex-pdf-max-runs) + ]; then break; fi; pdflatex -interaction nonstopmode -output-directory %o %f; let COUNTER=COUNTER+1; done)) Commands to process a LaTeX file to a PDF file. This is a list of strings, each of them will be given to the shell as a command. %f in the command will be replaced by the full file name, %b by the file base name (i.e. without extension) and %o by the base directory of the file. The reason why this is a list is that it usually takes several runs of -pdflatex, maybe mixed with a call to bibtex. Org does not have a clever -mechanism to detect which of these commands have to be run to get to a stable -result, and it also does not do any error checking. +pdflatex, mixed with a call to bibtex. Org does now have a clever mechanism +to detect how many times the document has to be compiled to get to a stable +result for the cross-references. Moreover, the number of compilations after +bibtex is limited to 3 by default (see `org-latex-pdf-max-runs' for more). +Though, it does not do any error checking. Alternatively, this may be a Lisp function that does the processing, so you could use this to apply the machinery of AUCTeX or the Emacs LaTeX mode. This function should accept the file name as its single argument. :group 'org-export-pdf :type '(choice (repeat :tag Shell command sequence - (string :tag Shell command)) + (string :tag Shell command)) (function))) (defcustom org-export-pdf-logfiles --8---cut here---end---8--- Enhancements: - variable to limit the number of PDFLaTeX runs (3, by default) Though, the way it is evaluated, you need to set it before calling org-latex (before defining org-latex-to-pdf-process). Not a problem, IMHO. Maybe there are better ways, though? - real standard sequence to compile the doc: + one call to PDFLaTeX + one call to BibTeX + as many calls as needed to PDFLaTeX (max 3) Best regards, Seb -- Sébastien Vauban ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Latex exporter bug or feature?
This is, if I remember right, a feature. Or at least a known
limitation, a deliberate attempt to respect document structure. Can
you perhaps get what you want by customizing org-export-latex-classes
to start the numbering already on heading level 4? For example one of
it's 'stanzas' looks like this:
(article \\documentclass[11pt, a4paper]{article}
(\\section{%s} . \\section*{%s})
(\\subsection{%s} . \\subsection*{%s})
(\\subsubsection{%s} . \\subsubsection*{%s})
(\\paragraph{%s} . \\paragraph*{%s})
(\\subparagraph{%s} . \\subparagraph*{%s}))
So make a custom one that looks like this:
(myarticle \\documentclass[11pt, a4paper]{article}
(\\section{%s} . \\section*{%s})
(\\subsection{%s} . \\subsection*{%s})
(\\subsubsection{%s} . \\subsubsection*{%s}))
... and make sure it gets added into the existing list of classes
properly. i.e correctly enclosed in parentheses. This is untested.
Org-mode seems to hold pretty tightly to proper tree structure. I
think you'll have to achieve what you want by some means other than
skipping a heading level
Scot
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Indraneel Majumdar
indran...@indraneel.info wrote:
Or am I doing something wrong?
With
#+OPTIONS H:5
paragraphs are not exported if subsubsection is missing.
eg. my orgfile:
* Section
** Sub section
My paragraph starts here...
The paragraph is not exported. The reason I want H:5 is that this is the
simplest way to obtain numbered paragraphs (I do not have to put
\paragraph{} in front of every paragraph).
Please help,
Indraneel
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Org-mode screencasts
Richard, That's a great intro screencast. Scot On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Jeff Kowalczyk j...@yahoo.com wrote: Eric Abrahamsen eric at ericabrahamsen.net writes: One thing that would be really excellent is to show keystrokes as you do the tutorial. I don't know what system you're using, but this link: http://screencasters.heathenx.org/blog/2009/04/06/smaller-key-status-monitor/ Rustom Mody wrote: mwe-log-commands may be particularly useful for an emacs related screencast http://www.foldr.org/~michaelw/emacs/mwe-log-commands.el It would be extremely nice for screencasting Emacs to have a configurable input and prompt display similar to the calc trail. Wish list: - stack view of the keystream from view-lossage - annotations (i.e. an overlay) when a binding dispatches a command using the mechanism from mwe-log-commands. - annotations of minibuffer prompts - annotations of keybinding hints The view-lossage stream doesn't use the format one would want for user documentation: C-x b f o o return return menu v i e w - l o s s a g e return Something like the following would be more like documentation: C-x b [switch-to-buffer] f o o RET [minibuffer input] RET [minibuffer prompt confirm] [visiting buffer] foo M-x [menu] v i e w - l o s s a g e RET [minibuffer input] [visiting buffer] *Help* The parts in [brackets] are intended to indicate some kind of face overlay. As uncolored plaintext the information is just distracting. Another tool, http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ScreencastMode has good ideas for keybinding hints and one-key stepthrough. I don't think the typed-text narration style is a good fit for these particular screencasts and their target audience, however. Jeff ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] ELPA [WAS] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions
Dan, I have no special expertise on this, but I'll hazzard an answer as a simple ELPA user: Using ELPA does seem like an attractive route, especially if it (package.el) is going to be in Emacs24. To me too, ELPA is a great idea. It probably needs some perfecting, but if it works for these purposes, we only help the perfecting by encouraging it's use. - How much work would it take to put and maintain Org-mode on ELPA? I'll let someone else answer that, but I'd be suprised if it couldn't be automated. - Would it make sense to have two different packages available via ELPA, To me, yes. I like using git for the development tree, but I expect that ELPA makes for a nice way for Windows users (and others who don't want to or can't use git) to get the latest version easily (and possibly even to downgrade if necessary). The latest release version is of course necessary as well, since using it is the main recommendation to new users. - Will it be possible for the Org project to have control over the files An excellent and important question. We'd rather not be dependent on personal intervention from others to update, especially the '-latest' version. And even for the releases, we'd probably be glad to see them propagate to the repository pretty quickly. (The current non-gnu ELPA repo only updates every two weeks or so. This is fine for many projects, but probably not enough even for org-mode releases.) - Will ELPA be able to get the info files installed suitably? In principle, yes. ELPA does concern itself with both the load-path and the info-path. Scot ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] org-footnote in messages, practical question.
ditto. same reason. In my mind the sig is like letterhead. Useful perhaps, but not really part of the message. On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de wrote: Łukasz Stelmach lukasz.stelm...@iem.pw.edu.pl writes: Hi. I am thinking about deploying org-footnote in message-mode. I'd like to use it for URLs most and I'd like to ask you a question. Where would you like to see the footnotes sections in my messages ;-) below or above the signature. Please consider that if they get below then they will be ripped off on reply. If, on the other hand I should put them above the signature then some hacking is required in the org-footnote-normalize function which of course is fun. My vote is _above_. As you said: they will be ripped of on reply if placed below the signature. Also, I expect the signature to be the last thing in a mail. I often do not scroll down to see if something is below it. Sebastian ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] ELPA
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think it makes sense to use ELPA to re-distribute the version of Org-mode which users already have installed as part of their Emacs install. Un-installing the bleeding edge Org-mode would be equivalent to downgrading to the Emacs version. Sure that doesn't make sense, but remember that Emacs development protocol is very conservative, and requires included packages to stop all changes except bug fixes long in advance of new Emacs releases, for stability. This typically has had the result that an Emacs version is released with an org-mode version which is a good few org-mode releases behind---even on the day the Emacs release becomes official. In that case it would never happen that ELPA would be re-distributing the version already installed with Emacs. The latest org-mode release will always be an advance on what got from a stock Emacs. This means that if you think that there is a place for people to run the latest org release (as opposed to the dev version), then, it seems, there is a decent place in ELPA for it, or? ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Sparse trees and searching for multiple words
Tom, I agree that a flexible multi-term search would be a great addition to org-mode and Emacs in general. I'd say that Google has spoiled us, but like all who are spoiled I believe my inflated desires to be perfectly reasonable! I'm keeping more and more notes in org-mode, and the more I keep, the more this comes up. I had a look at the page Ilya suggested, and got the 'first alternative' to work with org-occur (code below), but I also followed the links there and it looks like Drew Adams has done some significant work in this regard with his 'icicles' library. See his discussion on search here: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Icicles_-_Search_Commands%2c_Overview For example, using M-x icicles-search you can specify both a 'search context' (for example sentences, paragraphs, or any other span of text that you can define with a regexp perhaps org-mode outline nodes?), then from there you can drill down with one search term after another. This amounts to a progressive AND search, like what you're asking for. And as I remember, icicles does have a pretty good set of commands for tweaking searches in progress. Not Google Instant, but if it works, it could be pretty good. I'm not sure if you could somehow do org-sparse trees with something like this. On a first attempt a year ago, I wasn't able to swallow the icicles pill whole. I went back to ido in the end---partly because I couldn't manage the complexity. But `icicles-search' really motivates me to refresh my configuration and see if it is useful, at least for this kind of thing. For a simpler and less flexible solution, here is the code from the 'String Permutations' page, with the top-level function rewritten to call org-occur. It works reasonably well for the kind of searches you are asking about, but the search terms do have to be on the same line. This is less of a problem if, like me, you are using visual-line-mode and your paragraphs don't have newlines breaking them up. (defun scb/search-words-any-order (keywords) Search for a comma-separated list of terms in any order. (interactive sKeywords: (comma-separated) ) (org-occur (my-csv-string-to-regexp keywords))) (defun my-csv-string-to-regexp (str) Translate comma separated values into regexp. A,B,C turns into \\(A.*B.*C\\|A.*C.*B\\|B.*A.*C\\|B.*C.*A\\|C.*A.*B\\|C.*B.*A\\) (let* ((l (perms (split-string str ,\\s-* (mapconcat (function (lambda (n) (mapconcat 'identity n .*))) l \\|))) ;; thanks to Christoph Conrad c...@cli.de (require 'cl) (defun perms (l) (if (null l) (list '()) (mapcan #'(lambda( a ) (mapcan #'(lambda( p ) (list (cons a p))) (perms (remove* a l :count 1 l))) Scot On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Ilya Shlyakhter ilya_...@alum.mit.edu wrote: For example, I'd like to see entries which contains the words 'cat' and 'dog' in any order. Or 'apple', 'orange', 'melon', 'plum' and 'pear' in any order. Maybe this will help: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/StringPermutations ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] [WISH] ELPA repo for org-mode?
1) more goes to org-mode/contrib/lisp: this is okay, but requires more people to have write access to Org I can't comment on whether that is undesirable, but I assume that if the number of contributions grows, it might be best to take one of the other routes. 2) have a separate Org contribs repo: then we can be more liberal with write access and let users have all extensions in one pull. This would be find with me. Git is easy and quick. 3) migrate as much Org extensions as possible to ELPA: I'm still trying to figure out what would be the consequences of this. Well, for one thing, at the moment contributions to ELPA seem to be reviewed /en masse/, at an interval of about every two weeks: http://tromey.com/elpa/news.html It might be better for org to have a method where extension developers can say, There. Fixed it. and users can get updates immediately. People seem to do that kind of thing a lot, 'round here. And many of run the freshest code out there for extensions and main packages alike. 4) adopt OLGA (Org Lisp Gadget Archive) on orgmode.org: we would need to adapt package.el for a custom ELPA-like on orgmode.org but this is feasible. The advantage of having OLGA separately from ELPA is that we might be more liberal about what extension is allowed there. This might work. I like the idea of distributed repositories for ELPA anyway, and such a move might prompt the addition of an explicit way to include multiple package repos (debian-like) if such a way does not exist. I believe in a well-designed, well-used package manager for Emacs, and whatever aids that seems to me to be a Good Thing. Of course, we can combine (2) and (4): have a git repos containing Org extensions (those who are not officially part of Emacs/Org) and this repo can feed our OLGA, so that users can *also* navigate and update Org extensions thru OLGA. Yep. This might be nice both for the git-crowd and those who are inclined towards a package manager. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Any way to limit which subtrees to export based on TODO keywords?
Thanks Jeff, :noexport: does what I want, but I want to send org the same no export signal without tags, but using TODO keywords (since I'm using tags for tagging the content of the notes, since TODO words are unused in this document, and since they have a nice workflow oriented interface, which is perfect for this application. Scot On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:59 AM, Jeff Horn jrhorn...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure I understand the use case, but you can set which tags export on a per-file basis. http://orgmode.org/manual/Selective-export.html#Selective-export I read somewhere that :noexport: will prevent a subtree from being exported automatically, and I've used that to tag some notes, export to PDF, and print. On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Scot Becker scot.bec...@gmail.com wrote: I'm working up a way to print out my org-mode reading notes to individual half-sheets of paper. I'm using tags for content-related things, so I'd love to sort those notes which need to be printed from those notes which have been printed already by using TODO keywords. I don't think there is an inbuilt mechanism to do this. Can anyone suggest a mechanisim by which I might achieve a similar effect using TODO keywords (or, failing that, inheritable properties)? Scot ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode -- Jeffrey Horn PhD Student in Economics George Mason University (704) 271-4797 jh...@gmu.edu jrhorn...@gmail.com ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Emacs version
I also update from the git repo, about weekly and install to the new Emacs to the default location in /usr/local, that way (1) the development version loads by default, so long as /usr/local/bin is earlier in your path, and (2) you keep your default ubuntu Emacs packages intact, and can go back to them if you ever want to, by running /usr/bin/emacs Scot On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 4:16 AM, suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 September 2010 15:31, Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de wrote: highly recommended, git: http://repo.or.cz/w/emacs.git I wasn't aware of the git repo! thanks a lot. :) -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Any way to limit which subtrees to export based on TODO keywords?
The TODO keyword COMMENT should do what you're after. I can't believe I didn't think of that. I even use that one already in other files. Thanks, Scot ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] pretty export of tags
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Re: [Orgmode] pretty export of tags
Would it not be more consistent if I just make the command for the taglist be specified in a variable, similar to org-export-latex-todo-keyword-markup. This seems the more logical solution to me. You could still use a non-existing command and define it in the header Not sure how I missed your last email, so long ago... but: Yes. That seems great solution. Scot ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Bug: org-feed customization group is called org-id (can't customize org-id)
In org-feed.el (line 105), the 'defgroup' entry for org-feed has the tag Org ID, which is the same tag as the group org-id (in 'org-id.el'). This has the result that you are unable to get to the real org-ID variables from the M-x customize-group RET org RET top level menu. The culprit: (defgroup org-feed nil Options concerning RSS feeds as inputs for Org files. :tag Org ID :group 'org) Scot ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] A LaTeX class for Org-mode export
Well this is very cool. A whole new paradigm for org-LaTeX integration. Well done. I was especially glad for the introduction to the 'paralist' package. Could it be that the line to clone the git repo should be this: git clone git://github.com/tsdye/org-article.git instead of what I find in the document: git clone g...@github.com:tsdye/org-article.git (which didn't work for me)? And I think 'org-export-packages-alist' should be org-export-latex-packages-alist in the section entitled: Org-Mode LaTeX Export Setup (1.4). Also the code windows of the resulting PDFs dont' work that well for pasting the the code blocks to the command line or into Emacs, but don't know how to fix that. (Is 'microtype' meddling too much in the code blocks?) Anyway, many thanks for this. I look forward to experimenting in the days to come. Scot (resent to the whole list, whoops!) ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Exporting property values to LaTeX
SHORT VERSION:
Can someone tell me how I might be able to get a property value exported to
LaTeX? Here's what I want to do: I my reading and research notes in
org-mode. I'd like to print them out to manipulate them manually before I
use them. (Think: olde time 3 x 5 index cards, though I'll do it on A5 size
paper). I'd like to define an inherited property in my org outline
containing my BibTeX key for the given book or journal article. The idea is
that all of the notes on that book inherit the property (I can do this
already). Then I want to export these notes to LaTeX and insert the value
of the 'bibtexkey' property into a custom latex citation command for each
exported node. That way, when the notes are printed separate from each
other, I have the bibliographic information on each note.
EXAMPLE:
-
* Notes taken while reading: Smith, Some-Wild-Book
:PROPERTIES:
:bibkey: smith2009somewild
:END:
** The Problem
Smith starts with a scorching analysis of the problem:
#+BEGIN_QUOTE
As I see it, this chaos has all arisen because of... (29)
#+END_QUOTE
** The Solution
Summary: Smith thinks that if we would all only listen to him, these
problems would go away. (235)
** Evaluation
Though Smith's audacity is unendurable, he does a few good points,
including...
-
I'd like to end up with a LaTeX file which will will print the above as
three separate (A5 size) pages. (I think I can do that). But each note
(The Problem, The Solution, Evaluation) gets the value of the
'bibtexkey' property exported in the format:
\shortcite{bibtexkey}
immediately after the heading for that section. I would do this with all
child headings no matter at what level. Then when I take notes on another
item, its children inherit the correct value of 'bibtexkey' for it.
I think I have property inheritance worked out, and I reckon I can manage to
get org to export the headings how I want them (with
org-export-latex-classes), and I think I can mange to get LaTeX to lay it
all out right (it's LaTeX, how hard could custom layout be? :-).
What I want is a way to tweak org's LaTeX exporter to export \shortcite{
value } after every heading, with the value of the 'bibtexkey' property
inside it.
I suppose my question is: can anyone think of a way to do this without
making a custom LaTeX exporter? Does the idea of exporting properties for
use in LaTeX output have enough value to warrant more general solution, for
example allowing placeholders for optional property values in (for example)
'org-export-latex-classes'? Like this:
(\\section{%s} . \\section*{%s}\n\n\\shortcite{[[bibtexkey]]})
Scot
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Re: [Orgmode] Exporting property values to LaTeX
David,
Thanks for your response. What a cool and useful patch. This adds all
kinds of cool functionality to org-mode, and in a single line!I've had
several times I wished I could do this kind of thing.
As it is, it doesn't automate my present case much, since I'd still have to
put the macro expansion in after every headline. Not surprisingly it won't
expand if you put the {{{property(myproperty}}} code as part of a headline
in org-export-latex-classes. I reckon I'll have to try to do a hacked-up
latex exporter.
Also, the patch doesn't seem to work with inherited properties. With
org-use-property-inheritance set to 't', and this input file:
* Notes taken while reading: Smith, Some-Wild-Book
:PROPERTIES:
:bibkey: smith2009somewild
:END:
This here is the key: {{{property(bibkey)}}}.
** The Problem
This here is the key: {{{property(bibkey)}}}.
I get this output:
-
\section{Notes taken while reading: Smith, Some-Wild-Book}
\label{sec-1}
This here is the key: smith2009somewild.
\subsection{The Problem}
\label{sec-1_1}
This here is the key: \{{\{property(bibkey)\}}\}.
---
Cheers,
Scot
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 2:44 PM, David Maus dm...@ictsoc.de wrote:
Scot Becker wrote:
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[1.1 text/plain; ISO-8859-1 (7bit)]
[1.2 text/html; ISO-8859-1 (quoted-printable)]
SHORT VERSION:
Can someone tell me how I might be able to get a property value exported
to LaTeX?
This is currently not possible but attached patch adds a new macro
(cf. Manual, 11.6 Macro replacement) that inserts a property of the
current subtree.
Example:
{{{property(id)}}}
Will insert the ID property of current subtree if the Org buffer is
exported.
This patch only works for singe value properties and raises an error
if the macro is inserted above the first headline.
Best,
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Re: [Orgmode] how difficultwould it be to support zotero in org?
Matt,
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Matt Price mopto...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Scot Becker scot.bec...@gmail.com wrote:
Another Zotero + org user here. Right now I do what Christian does:
export Zotero to slightly
tweakedhttp://github.com/commonman/zotero-bibtex-sbBibTeX, and insert with
RefTeX's amazingly cool reference-insertion
interface (another genius piece of work by Carsten).
i'm getting nearly convinced to go this route. May I ask, do you use
reftex from within org? I'm not quite sure on how that would wok (but also
I'm not that familiar w/ the latex parts of the documentation...).
Yes, RefTeX's job is just to insert a \cite{BibTeX_key} command. It
doesn't care what the major mode is when you call it. And though I
sympathize with the reasons not to use LaTeX for academic writing in the
humanities (since few potential colaborators do, and publishers hardly ever
will), recent developments in the BibTeX realm have reduced the problems
there. If you haven't seen
BibLaTeXhttp://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/biblatex.html,
have a look at it, it's a BibTeX replacement with much more flexibility.
There are already a few interesting citation engines build on top of it:
biblatex-chicagohttp://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/exptl/biblatex-contrib/biblatex-chicago/#jh393d9cb73b791d18abee756b61e67cb7,
which I use and am happy with (it's in-progress, but in very active
development), and another biblatex style for
historianshttp://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/biblatex-historian.html(which
I can't speak to.)
The whole process of exporting a document of any complexity to MS Word
format sounds daunting, but I'm glad to hear that others have had some
success with it. Many thanks for starting this thread. I've learned a lot.
Scot
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Re: [Orgmode] Bug: Impossible to have right bracket in footnotes [7.01trans]
Well I use biblatex to produce the chicago citations, used pretty widely in
the humanities in N. America, and the LaTeX \cite{} commands under that
setup take their optional arguments in square brackets. The most frequent
optional argument is a page number for the citation, but I also use them for
prefixes to the citation, e.g. a footnote which reads See also Becker, 59
would be generated like this \autocite[59][See also](Becker2010).
Scot
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Aidan Gauland aidal...@no8wireless.co.nzwrote:
Alan L Tyree wrote:
Disable footnotes like [2010], but keep footnotes like [fn:2010]
The reason is that I write legal texts that have references to case law
that look like: Marreco v Richardson [1908] 2 KB 584. The dates in
square brackets are an essential part of the reference.
Perhaps it would be best to determine for what type of writing the current
way
Org handles footnotes is lacking. Is it just academic writing in general,
of
mostly only certain fields? Both Alan and I have needed to use a
workaround
for legal writing (I'm a first-year student; don't know about Alan). What
have other people had trouble footnoting/citing in Org?
--Aidan
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Re: [Orgmode] Bug: Impossible to have right bracket in footnotes [7.01trans]
Giovanni,
Thanks for that. I have the same problem, since I put citations in my
footnotes in the format \cite[50]{Ridolfi_2011_Autobiography}. This is
great. It's also a nice model for a few other petty troubles I want to
postprocess away.
Scot
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Giovanni Ridolfi giovanni.rido...@yahoo.it
wrote:
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes:
unfortunately this is difficult to fix in a good way.
I do want to go back to footnotes, because I think there are many
things that do not yet work satisfactorily. And then I also hope to
address the issue you raised. For the time being, unfortunately, I do
not have a solution for you.
I have a workaround.
If the author uses the a special code for [ and ], e.g.
#91; and #93; then the note is exported correctly.
** example
This is not anymore a broken footnote.[fn:: Some book at #91; 42-24 #93;.]
Exports to:
This is not anymore broken footnote.[1]
[1] Some book at #91; 42-24 #93;.
--
But then the file have to be post-processed to substitute #91; and #93;
Place these lines in .emacs, or evaluate them (goto the last ) and hit
C-x C-e)
for the current session :
--
(add-hook 'org-export-html-final-hook 'gio/replace-square-brackets)
(add-hook 'org-export-ascii-final-hook 'gio/replace-square-brackets)
(defun gio/replace-square-brackets ()
Replace #91; with [ and #93; with ]
(interactive)
(setq a #91;) ; use \[ for LaTeX export
(setq a1 [)
(setq b #93;) ; use \] for LaTeX export
(setq b1 ])
(ignore-errors (goto-char 1) (setq p (point))
(while ( p (point-max))
(re-search-forward a nil nil) (replace-match a1) (setq p (point)) ) )
;;
(ignore-errors (goto-char 1) (setq p (point))
(while ( p (point-max))
(re-search-forward b nil nil) (replace-match b1) (setq p (point)) ) )
(save-buffer) )
--
Tested for HTML, ASCII.
For the LaTeX export the line:
This is not anymore a broken footnote.[fn:: Some book at #91;
42-24#93;.]
exports to:
This is not anymore a broken footnote.\footnote{Some book at \[
42-24 \]. }
So the LaTeX seems to convert directly the #9?; character.
Not tested for docbook.
HTH
Giovanni
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Re: [Orgmode] LaTeX export: Skip headline lines? Paragraph sectioning?
Hmm, Tomas, this is interesting. I have thought about using babel for this sort of thing, but assumed that the textual overhead would be too high to make it worth it (It'd be ugly, and not that fun to generate). I don't suppose you'd be so kind as to past in an example that shows this kind of thing in action? Even just an example text itself, with the structure and some blocks. (And of course, I do still owe you my examples of org+xetex). Scot ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
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Thanks, Thomas, I knew I had seen that example. I just couldn't find it when searching. Scot On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Thomas S. Dye t...@tsdye.com wrote: Aloha Scot, An example is here: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/examples/research-project.php http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/examples/research-project.phpThis approach is *definitely* not as much fun as the Org-mode LaTeX exporter, and the org files can be ugly, but it gives fine control over the LaTeX output and can produce notes and metadata in LaTeX, HTML, docbook, etc. I use it for projects intended for publication, where I'm willing to invest some thought and energy into the setup. Let me know if you have questions. All the best, Tom P.S. Yes, by all means, let me know when you've tamed the xetex configuration or edit the LaTeX export tutorial yourself to include what you've found. On Aug 30, 2010, at 4:22 AM, Scot Becker wrote: Hmm, Tomas, this is interesting. I have thought about using babel for this sort of thing, but assumed that the textual overhead would be too high to make it worth it (It'd be ugly, and not that fun to generate). I don't suppose you'd be so kind as to past in an example that shows this kind of thing in action? Even just an example text itself, with the structure and some blocks. (And of course, I do still owe you my examples of org+xetex). Scot ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] LaTeX export: Skip headline lines? Paragraph sectioning?
He wants to write up a document using org-mode's outline facilities as a
skeleton to help him build up, navigate and visualize his document, but then
he wants only to use SOME of the headlines but ALL of the text when he
actually makes a printed version for others to read. I've wanted this as
well, since when you think about it the structure you need as a writer may
not be the structure you want to pass on to your readers.
I'd be glad to see a formal feature for this in org-mode, and even more glad
if I could figure out a good way to basically keep up to two headlines per
'node' (org section): one for me while I'm writing (the outline of my
argument, in sentence form, say) and another for export (the catchy
'heading' which goes---for some headings only---in the printed output).
Until we get something like that, Alan, you could just use a little manual
work (or some elisp and one of org's export hooks) to help manage something
like this:
1) choose a :tag: for don't print this headline (just the text under it)
2) If you want to keep those headings in the file (I assume you do), then
when you want to export, you'll want to make a temporary (saved) copy of the
file somewhere then:
3) use emacs' M-x flush-lines to kill lines with that tag just before
export.
As for exporting lists as \paragraph{} sections, I'm not sure. But on this
you might take nick's suggestion and give a sample input and output file to
help visualize (and show us) what you're asking for. And do make sure your
org lists are compatible with the new list definitions (see recent
discussions elsewhere on this list). When you do this kind of thing it
becomes critical that you pay attention to what constitutes a new item and
the end of the list.
As you'll see org-mode's latex export is currently designed to use org for
basic document structuring and only allows for a limited set of mappings
between org's structure and latex structure. But you'll see in the latex
configuration documentation that it is possible to define what kind of
\section{}, \chapter{}, or \subsubparagraph{} is exported for each level of
org's headlines.
Also have a look at the documentation for the latex package 'easylist' It's
not what you're asking for here, but you may find it interesting if you want
to get structured thought-outlines out to paper. It basically takes
something like an org-mode header list and typesets in latex as nested
(numbered or un-numbered) lists, i.e. not as LaTeX headers.
Scot
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:06 AM, Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com wrote:
Alan E. Davis lngn...@gmail.com wrote:
Sometimes, I have used outliners, like ThinkTank, to organize my
thoughts, and reorganize the structure of a document of whatever kind.
I don't need headings or sectioning in some cases.
I have not found a way to exclude heading lines from
LaTeX output in Orgmode, nor have I found a
tag to say, omit this headline. I do see the variables
org-export-exclude-tags, and org-export-select tags; as well as an
option to include a specific number of headings as LaTeX sections. In
the later case, other headings are exported as plain list items, not
what I have in mind.
A related issue perhaps: what would it take to export, say list items,
as paragraph and subparagraph sections in LaTeX.
The ability to export a pdf almost automatically through LaTeX, even
with images, is magical. Many thanks for this.
Some examples might help. I may be particularly dense tonight but I have
read your mail a few times and I still have no idea what you are asking
(or rather I have multiple ideas, none of which make much sense to me.)
Thanks,
Nick
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Re: [Orgmode] { in Latex fragments
Or what about \J{japanese characters here}? I do the same with Hebrew,
\heb{לִפְנֵי יְהוָה} and (without claiming to have done extensive testing),
it seems to work. Org mode is set up to let arbitrary macros of the format
\mymacro{data} pass through to LaTeX. You might not even have to change
your definitions.
Scot
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Christian Wittern cwitt...@gmail.com writes:
In my org-mode document, I have a special sequence to switch to a
Japanese
font defined as \J. When using this, I have to do something like {\J
(Japanese characters here}. However, when I run the org-mode export, the
braces { and } are escaped as \{ and \} and thus loosing their
function.
yes.
but why don't you change the sequence? I mean:
from:
hello {\J ウ}
to
hello [\J ウ ] or: (\J ウ)
[] and () are not escaped
cheers,
Giovanni
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Re: [Orgmode] Patch for latex export supporting nested emphasis
That's very useful.
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Robert Hennig robert.hen...@freylax.dewrote:
Dear Orgmode maintainers,
I would like to provide a patch which allows nested emphasis
for the latex export. The problem of handling nested emphasis
was solved by applying the org-export-latex-fontify recursively.
The example
Now *you /can/ write* /nested/ */emphasis/ recursively!*
will be translated to:
Now \textbf{you \emph{can} write} \emph{nested}
\textbf{\emph{emphasis} recursively!}
Best regards, yours faithful
Robert Hennig
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Re: [Orgmode] trying to get xetex working with org-mode
2010/8/13 Christian Wittern cwitt...@gmail.com
There are some more lines I did not ask for and do not want, like for
example the \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} which does not work with XeTeX.
Now the number of possible relevant variables etc is just too complex for me
to understand. I would appreciate if some kind soul would explain to me how
to trim this down to use only the packages I need.
Ain't that the truth. The new LaTeX header system is very flexible,
but it multiplies the places you can put header stuff, and because of
the way XeLaTeX headers are structured, not all of them work.
This is what I do. The following is a little hastily written. I'm
happy to come back to anything that doesn't make sense.
First, I set org-export-latex-classes like so. The relevant stanzas
are 5-7, staring with mythesis
Note that I explicitly exclude ORG's default set of loaded packages,
so i can include my own set.
Also note that it's a pretty small header. For some reason I couldn't
get things to work if I put all of the XeTeX header stuff in there,
nor could I get it to work by putting in a bunch of #+Latex_header
lines (or whatever their syntax is).
(setq org-export-latex-classes
'((article
\\documentclass[11pt, a4paper]{article}
(\\section{%s} . \\section*{%s})
(\\subsection{%s} . \\subsection*{%s})
(\\subsubsection{%s} . \\subsubsection*{%s})
(\\paragraph{%s} . \\paragraph*{%s})
(\\subparagraph{%s} . \\subparagraph*{%s}))
(report
\\documentclass[11pt]{report}
(\\part{%s} . \\part*{%s})
(\\chapter{%s} . \\chapter*{%s})
(\\section{%s} . \\section*{%s})
(\\subsection{%s} . \\subsection*{%s})
(\\subsubsection{%s} . \\subsubsection*{%s}))
(book
\\documentclass[11pt, a4paper]{book}
(\\part{%s} . \\part*{%s})
(\\chapter{%s} . \\chapter*{%s})
(\\section{%s} . \\section*{%s})
(\\subsection{%s} . \\subsection*{%s})
(\\subsubsection{%s} . \\subsubsection*{%s}))
(beamer
\\documentclass{beamer}
org-beamer-sectioning)
;; Here starts my personal latex classes
;; use them with: #+LaTeX_CLASS: mythesis
(mythesis
%!TEX TS-program = xelatex\n%!TEX encoding = UTF-8
Unicode\n\\documentclass[12pt,oneside,a4paper]{book}\n\\usepackage{fontspec}\n\\usepackage{xunicode}\n\\usepackage{xltxtra}\n\n%
Load My Thesis Defaults\n\\input{/home/scot/lin/tex/thesis-header.tex}\n%
Don't Load Org's standard list for this
class\n[NO-DEFAULT-PACKAGES]\n\\defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase,Mapping=tex-text}
% converts LaTeX specials (``quotes'' --- dashes etc.) to
unicode\n\\setromanfont{Gentium}\n\\setsansfont{Liberation Sans}
%change this, if you even use it.
(\\chapter{%s} . \\chapter*{%s})
(\\section{%s} . \\section*{%s})
(\\subsection{%s} . \\subsection*{%s})
(\\subsubsection{%s} . \\subsubsection*{%s})
(\\paragraph{%s} . \\paragraph*{%s})
(\\subparagraph{%s} . \\subparagraph*{%s}))
(mychapter
%!TEX TS-program = xelatex\n%!TEX encoding = UTF-8
Unicode\n\\documentclass[12pt,oneside,a4paper]{book}\n\\usepackage{fontspec}\n\\usepackage{xunicode}\n\\usepackage{xltxtra}\n\n%
Load My Thesis Defaults\n\\input{/home/scot/lin/tex/thesis-header.tex}\n%
Don't Load Org's standard list for this
class\n[NO-DEFAULT-PACKAGES]\n\\defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase,Mapping=tex-text}
% converts LaTeX specials (``quotes'' --- dashes etc.) to
unicode\n\\setromanfont{Gentium}\n\\setsansfont{Liberation Sans}
%change this, if you even use it.
(\\section{%s} . \\section*{%s})
(\\subsection{%s} . \\subsection*{%s})
(\\subsubsection{%s} . \\subsubsection*{%s})
(\\paragraph{%s} . \\paragraph*{%s})
(\\subparagraph{%s} . \\subparagraph*{%s}))
(mytextchunk
%!TEX TS-program = xelatex\n%!TEX encoding = UTF-8
Unicode\n\\documentclass[12pt,oneside,a4paper]{article}\n\\usepackage{fontspec}\n\\usepackage{xunicode}\n\\usepackage{xltxtra}\n\n%
Load My Thesis Defaults\n\\input{/home/scot/lin/tex/thesis-header.tex}\n%
Don't Load Org's standard list for this
class\n[NO-DEFAULT-PACKAGES]\n\\defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase,Mapping=tex-text}
% converts LaTeX specials (``quotes'' --- dashes etc.) to
unicode\n\\setromanfont{Gentium}\n\\setsansfont{Liberation Sans}
%change this, if you even use it.
(\\section{%s} . \\section*{%s})
(\\subsection{%s} . \\subsection*{%s})
(\\subsubsection{%s} . \\subsubsection*{%s})
(\\paragraph{%s} . \\paragraph*{%s})
(\\subparagraph{%s} . \\subparagraph*{%s}
Then I have the following in my thesis-header.tex file.
% Standard org stuff which I have to include by hand
% since I didn't want the other (font handling, entities) bits:
\usepackage{fixltx2e}
\usepackage{graphicx}
\usepackage{longtable}
\usepackage{float}
\usepackage{wrapfig}
%\usepackage{soul}
\usepackage{hyperref}
\tolerance=1000
That seems to produce a header that works with xetex.
I haven't yet set org up to run xelatex automatically, but
Re: [Orgmode] trying to get xetex working with org-mode
Noted. I'll see what I can do (but nobody be afraid to beat me to it, OK?) Scot On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Bastien bastien.gue...@wikimedia.fr wrote: Scot Becker scot.bec...@gmail.com writes: That seems to produce a header that works with xetex. If so, it would be good to document it in Worg. I quickly grep'ed the Worg dir and there is no mention of XeTeX... -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: worg recent changes exported page?
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Re: [Orgmode] [ANN] List improvement v.2
Nicolas and list friends This sounds great. And it seems you've made it easy to try by putting in in git. Since my git usage consists almost exclusively of pulling from the org-mode repository, and I've never dealt with testing branches, would one of you be so kind as to feed me the commands necessary to try this out in the easiest way possible. I keep current on the org 'master' repo. Should I pull a separate repo, or make a branch on the one I have? Assuming I find no reason to undo the changes, and assuming they are merged into the core after some weeks, and assuming that I want keep current on the main org repository, will I need to do anything if and when these changes get added to the core if I'm already testing them on the branch? I'm sure all of this is blissfully easy (git seems so clever), but I'd be glad to have someone explain how to do it in the easiest way. Scot On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, Here is a new, and probably final feature-wise, suggestion of list improvement in Org Mode. Table of Contents = 1 What is it about again ? 2 Is that all ? 2.1 Preserving blank lines 2.2 Timer lists 2.3 Automatic rules 2.4 `org-apply-on-list' 3 Where can it be tried ? 1 What is it about again ? ~~~ I redefined lists in Org Mode. Lists start, as before, at a bullet (whose true regexp is at `org-item-beginning-re'), and end at either `org-list-end-regexp', a new headline, or, obviously, end of buffer. `org-list-end-regexp' is customizable and defaults to 2 blank lines, but `org-empty-line-terminates-plain-lists' has precedence over it. Moreover, any `org-list-end-regexp' found in special blocks does not end list. Here are two examples of valid lists: Case 1: `org-list-end-regexp' is at default value - First item - Sub item #+BEGIN_EXAMPLE Two blank lines below Two blank lines above #+END_SRC - Last sub item List has ended at the beginning of this line. Case 2: `org-list-end-regexp' is ^[ \t]*___[ \t]*\n - item 1 - item 2 - sub-item - sub-item 2 - item 3 __ List has ended at the beginning of this line. Now, Org Mode knows when a list has ended and how to indent line accordingly. In other words, you can `org-return-indent' three times to exit a list and be at the right column to go on with the text. This new definition is also understood by exporters (LaTeX, DocBook, HTML or ASCII) and `org-list-end-regexp' will appear in source as a blank line, whatever its value is (as long as it starts with a caret and ends with a newline character, as specified in doc-string). Another advantage is that you can have two lists of different types in a row like in the example below: - item - item 1. item 2. item In this example, you can move (or cycle, or indent) items in the second list without worrying about changing the first one. 2 Is that all ? Yes and no. I tried as much as possible to keep compatibility with previous implementation. But, as I was at it, I made a number of minor improvements I am now going to describe. 2.1 Preserving blank lines === `org-move-item-up' and `org-move-item-down' will not eat blank lines anymore. You can move an item up and down and stay assured list will keep its integrity. The same is true for `org-sort-list' that would previously collapse the list being sorted. Sorting is now safe. `org-insert-item', when 'plain-list-item is set to 'auto in `org-blank-before-new-entry' (the default, I think), will work hard to guess the appropriate number of blank lines to insert before the item to come. The function is also much more predictable (in previous version, trying to insert an item with point on a blank line between 2 items would create a new headline). 2.2 Timer lists There are three improvements in timer lists (C-c C-x -). 1. When a new item is created, it should be properly indented and not sticked to column 0 anymore, 2. When an item is inserted in a pre-existing timer list, it will take profit of what has been done to `org-insert-item', 3. `org-sort-list' can now sort timer lists with the t and T commands. /Note/: in order to preserve lists integrity, Org Mode will send an error if you try to insert a timer list inside a list of another type. 2.3 Automatic rules I've added sets of rules (applied by default) that can improve lists experience. You can deactivate them individually by customizing `org-list-automatic-rules'. Bullet rule: Some may have noticed that you couldn't obtain * as a bullet when cycling a list at column 0 or Org would have taken them for headings. I extended the
[Orgmode] Re: Possible Bug in org-refile [6.36trans (release_6.36.654.g2cd3)]
No bug here. If I SAVE the buffer to a file, everything works great. I had something wrong with the value of org-refile-targets in my full set up that triggered all this. I think I can make it right. Carry on... Scot ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] fix for error of quoted and emphasized text in LaTeX export
Robert,
Did you have a chance to try this yet? I'm keen to know if it seems to
work. I'll try if I get the chance, but (perhaps like you), I'm no expert,
and it might be a few days before I have a chance to play with it.
Scot
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Robert Hennig robert.hen...@freylax.dewrote:
Dear Orgmode List,
In LaTeX export the following will fail:
/Hello/ - ``/Hello/''
instead of
/Hello/ - ``\emph{Hello}''
The fix I propose is to change the order of
calling
org-export-latex-quotation-marks AFTER
org-export-latex-fontify in
the org-export-latex-content function, because the quotation marks would
be changed and do not match the regexp anymore.
But I'm not too shure if there are other implications to regard.
best regards,
Robert Hennig
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Re: [Orgmode] question about links in org-mode
Tomer, Welcome. I don't think that any such export routine exists, but I like the idea. Perhaps someone else could comment on what this would take. Off topic: Did you know that the latest development Emacs has decent (in-progress) bidi support, and that there are new Hebrew input methods (not yet included in the sources, but posted on the emacs-bidi mailing list). They're keen to have testers, before they turn on automatic bidi reordering globally. I use this with org-mode, and so far it works well. You can email me privately if you want help getting started. Scot On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 10:10 PM, תומר לוין tomer1le...@walla.com wrote: hello, I have a org-mode file which contains many many links. Is there kind of export which replace all links with the subtree in which the link point to? Thanks Tomer -- Walla! Mail - Get your free unlimited mail today http://www.walla.co.il ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: [ANN] Org-babel integrated into Org-mode
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.comwrote: - Org-babel adds rather specific and complex functionality to org-mode that those who use it as a simple outliner and todo manager do not require. (In other words, an option to turn it off might be nice for those who are worried about feature creep.) I'm less struck by this point, as there are many features of Org-mode which I personally don't understand or use and I'm certainly some features the existence of which I am completely unaware. However as long as Babel doesn't significantly affect load time, I'd rather it be present in the background, to simplify it's use. And there's a significant advantage to having it included and 'on': ubiquity. An org user doesn't have to have set anything up to load up Eric's babel-ized version of the emacs starter kit and start playing with it in babel. [http://github.com/eschulte/emacs-starter-kit] It's the same advantage that org-mode gains by being part of Emacs. We can say: Want to try org-mode? just do 'M-x org-mode' Now make some headlines with CTRL-RET and Org babel is good, useful and stable enough that it deserves the same boost. Having said that, I'm all for Carsten's new code execution key binding. Org advertises C-c C-c as a friendly key which mostly 'does the right thing' on the current block. I could imagine that unwary newish users might not realize that in this case 'the right thing' is to execute that code. Paranoia does seem a good default practice in this case. Scot ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] mixing emphasis fails
I think that this is a 'known' issue, and not easy to get right. One thing
you can try (and report back, since I've meant to do it to try to solve this
very problem), is to customize org-emphasis-regexp-components. If I'm not
mistaken, it exists to help users troubleshoot this kind of thing. It would
be great if we could manage to get this working.
Scot
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Robert Hennig robert.hen...@freylax.dewrote:
Dear Orgmode-List,
I was trying to mixing different Emphasis styles and failed badly.
or example:
An italic markup in a bold one:
*This sentence /is/ bold*.
The bold markup will succeed, but the italic will not, in all exports
(html, latex) it will be left as '/it/'.
The only fix for this I came up with was:
#+BEGIN_HTML
bThis sentence iis/i bold/b
#+END_HTML
#+BEGIN_LaTeX
\textbf{This sentence \emph{is} bold}
#+END_LaTeX
which is not very at all...
Thank you for your advices,
yours
Robert Hennig
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: keeping uptodate?
Just yesterday, I finally added this to my .bash_aliases file: alias orgupdate='cd /home/scot/.emacs.d/vendor/org-mode; git pull make make doc' I have the org-mode/lisp path in my 'load-path and org-mode/doc at the front of 'Info-directory-list, so it all just stays in place. I don't make install at all. This will work if you are running GNU/Linux and you run org-mode from the development tree (many do). It avoids having to download the whole tarball each time (which admittedly isn't all that arduous these days), and of course you ge(i)t the latest goods, which is what I prefer. That's a little sparse on detail. If you need me to spell it out I will. Scot On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.orgwrote: Matt Price mopto...@gmail.com writes: apologies for this one -- i remember reading somewhere about a script or package that lets you keep uptodate with org development versions without having to pull manually from git. We should have daily build installable as a debian package soon. It will (eventually) be at http://launchpad.net/~org-modehttp://launchpad.net/%7Eorg-mode Mark. -- http://hexmode.com/ Embrace Ignorance. Just don't get too attached. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] [ANN] Org to Atom, revisited
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Re: [Orgmode] Could inline footnotes be made to work with latex commands that have arguments?
Thanks, David, for your response. I suspected it might not be that easy to
fix.
I hadn't thought of making a custom command which only used mandatory
arguments. I'll try it out and see if I like it.
Thanks,
Scot
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 3:16 PM, David Maus dm...@ictsoc.de wrote:
Scot Becker wrote:
If I put a LaTeX citation command inside one of org's inline
footnotes, no problem, thus:
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet,\footnote{\cite{rowe_acts_2007} }
consectetur adipisicing elit,
But if I need an optional argument, no dice. This:
ex ea commodo consequat.[fn:: \cite[56]{fitzmyer_one_2007}] Duis aute
irure dolor
exports to LaTeX like this:
ex ea commodo consequat.[fn:: \cite[56]{fitzmyer_one_2007}] Duis aute
irure dolor
(i.e. there is no \footnote{} macro created)
For consistency in my markup, I would rather use org's inline
footnotes for citations like this (which sometimes number several
inside a footnote). If I can't, I'd just go ahead and use LaTeX
\footnote{} macros right in my org files.
Is the present behaviour likely to be fixable? Or should I just
write my footnotes as LaTeX \footnotes{}?
This does not look like easy to fix: It are the square brackets of the
\cite command that prevent Org mode from recognizing the inline
footnote.
You could try to work with a LaTeX hack, something along:
,
| \newcommand{\mycite}[2]{\cite[#1]{#2}}
`
This would provide the macro \mycite with two arguments given in
curly brackets that is expanded to the \cite sequence.
HTH
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Re: [Orgmode] how to upgrade org-mode version?
Kris, You may have discovered this in the meantime, but I gave you the wrong line for adding the org documentation to your info-path in emacs (so that M-x org-info gets you to the latest docs). It's not (add-to-list 'Info-default-directory-list /path/to/org/doc) but: (add-to-list 'Info-directory-list /path/to/org/doc) I don't know how long this has been broken in my own setup, but I just noticed it and thought I'd correct my advice to you. If you actually install org mode to a place that the info commands can find (/usr/local perhaps) you don't need this. But I just put the org repository right in my ~/.emacs.d/vendor/ directory, compile it in place, and leave it there. As long as I add the right paths to the org-mode/lisp and org-mode/doc, everything works. If you use stuff from the org contrib directory, you can also do: (add-to-list 'load-path /home/you/newpath/org-mode/contrib/lisp) Scot ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Could inline footnotes be made to work with latex commands that have arguments?
If I put a LaTeX citation command inside one of org's inline footnotes, no
problem, thus:
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet,\footnote{\cite{rowe_acts_2007} } consectetur
adipisicing elit,
But if I need an optional argument, no dice. This:
ex ea commodo consequat.[fn:: \cite[56]{fitzmyer_one_2007}] Duis aute irure
dolor
exports to LaTeX like this:
ex ea commodo consequat.[fn:: \cite[56]{fitzmyer_one_2007}] Duis aute irure
dolor
(i.e. there is no \footnote{} macro created)
For consistency in my markup, I would rather use org's inline footnotes for
citations like this (which sometimes number several inside a footnote). If
I can't, I'd just go ahead and use LaTeX \footnote{} macros right in my org
files.
Is the present behaviour likely to be fixable? Or should I just write my
footnotes as LaTeX \footnotes{}?
Scot
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Re: [Orgmode] For Org-mode on the go?
Looks very cool, especially at the price. But the spacebar. Yikes it's small. At least it has all the meta-keys and TAB, which make it nicer than most other pocket keyboards for running Emacs. Do report. Scot On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Tim O'Callaghan tim.ocallag...@gmail.com wrote: Just though I'd point out the NanoNote a $99 Linux Palmtop, that should run Emacs. The 本 version of NanoNote is an ultra small form factor computing device. The device sports a 336 MHz processor, 2GB of flash memory, microSD slot, head phone jack, USB device and 850mAh Li-ion battery. It boots Linux out of the box and also boots over USB. It’s targeted squarely at developers who see the promise of open hardware and want to roll their own end user experience. It’s the perfect companion for open content; we envision developers turning the device into a music or video player for Ogg or an offline Wikipedia or MIT OpenCourseWare appliance. Or you can simply amaze your friends by creating an ultra small handheld notebook computer. You choose the distribution. The 本 Nanonote is the first in a line of products that will see the addition of other hardware capabilities. Get your NanoNote and start a Nanoproject today. Or join one of the existing projects in our developer community. http://sharism.cc/gallery/?bwbps_page_1=1 Planning on getting one to see... Tim. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: how to upgrade org-mode version?
See: http://orgmode.org/manual/Installation.html#Installation And if you're not installing globally with 'make install' (I don't) make sure that the org manual gets read by adding /path/to/org/doc to 'Info-default-directory-list like so: (add-to-list 'Info-default-directory-list /path/to/org/doc) Scot On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 11:30 PM, Bernt Hansen be...@norang.ca wrote: Kristofer Bergstrom k...@onensemble.org writes: I would like to upgrade my version of org-mode (I'm using Emacs23), with the hopes it will solve a problem of the :tags option not being evaluated in clocktable dynamic blocks. According to M-x org-version, I am currently using 6.21b. Matt pointed me to http://orgmode.org/org-6.36c.tar.gz . Is there information available about how to upgrade, or install multiple versions of org-mode? The Installation instructions in the org-mode manual refer to Emacs22 or to enabling the pre-installed Emacs23 version. Thank you in advance! Hi, just download the new version and unpack it in some directory then add that directory to your load path. HTH, Bernt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] feature request: C-k safety
Scott, You asked: Feature request: add an option preventing tree deletion with C-k without user confirmation. Actually, I'd like an option to prevent it period. If this option is already in there, then you're encouraged to tell me to RTFM. But then also please tell me where it is, because I can't find it. In the FAQ, you can find this: (setq org-special-ctrl-k t) before losing your work. It's a clever compromise, though I suspect it doesn't give as much protection as you want. Here's what it does. From the docstring: When t, the following will happen while the cursor is in the headline: - When the cursor is at the beginning of a headline, kill the entire line and possible the folded subtree below the line. - When in the middle of the headline text, kill the headline up to the tags. - When after the headline text, kill the tags. Scot ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] pretty export of tags
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 3:56 PM, David Bremner brem...@unb.ca wrote:
I would like some more control over how tags are exported to PDF. I
tried both latex and docbook based methods, and as far as I can tell, in
both cases the treatment is hard-coded (at least in the docbook case it
does mark them as being different from the headline). Is there some
existing trick I should know about? I'd like the tags e.g. right
justified, or on the next line in a box. The HTML treatment is almost
OK.
David,
I could have sworn I was looking at the relevant variable this
morning, but I can't find it. (I was looking at
org-export-latex-todo-keyword-markup, but that's of course for TODO
words). It looks to me like tag markup is hard-coded for LaTeX
export, as a simple substitution in the function
'org-export-latex-keywords-maybe.
I, too, would be glad to do some tricks on tags for LaTeX output.
Would it add to the complexity too much to expand the capabilities of
org-export-latex-classes, so that in the lines where you define the
header markup for each class, you can also define tag markup?
So in the following, %s is just the text of the header and %t is a
(comma-separated, for possible use as LaTeX arguements?) tag list:
'((mynewclass
\\documentclass[11pt, a4paper]{article}
(\\section{%s}\n\taglist{%t} . \\section*{%s}\n\taglist{%t})
(\\subsection{%s}\n\taglist{%t} . \\subsection*{%s}\n\taglist{%t})
... and so on.
The above example would produce LaTeX code like this:
\section{This is a Title Here}
\taglist{tag1,tag2,tag3}
Section text goes here.
I would then define \taglist{} in my header as a custom latex command
which does the formatting I want on the tags.
Presumably I could also add whatever formatting I want around %t ---at
least whatever formatting LaTeX supports. David, you might want to
assure yourself that LaTeX is capable of producing the results you
want. I'm weak on the specifics, but there is some trouble putting
certain kinds of commands in LaTeX header lines.
It may be that in time, org-export-generic will grow into a tool that
can be made to produce a decent LaTeX exporter, (and might now for
certain well-structured and not-too-demanding kinds of documents), but
I suspect that time quite yet.
I'd be glad to hear of any other solutions or hacks.
Scot
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Re: [Orgmode] unordered list feature request: new sub-lists automatically switch to different list-character
I like this idea, even as default, though I'm sure that some people
are doing things with org for which they would want to turn it off.
Scot
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Livin Stephen Sharma
livin.step...@gmail.com wrote:
Context/Sample org content
current
unordered list
+ topA
+ innerA1
+ innerA2
+ topB
+ innerB1
proposed
unordered list
+ topA
- innerA1 --- '-' used automatically instead of '+'
- innerA2 ---
+ topB
- innerB1 ---
-
When creating nested/child lists ('innerX' items) under an existing list
item ('topX' items),
the current behaviour does not make an effort to change the
leading list-denoter character (-,+,*).
Could a feature be provided where creating a such a child-list would make
this list's items begin with a different list-denoter?
I find it helps readability (and hence efficiency when working with lists)
when I manually (S-left, S-right) do this. If others agree, perhaps this
could be provided as a built-in feature?
I don't know lisp, ( it's increasingly looking like it may be time to
*find* the time to learn JJ) so I can't code this myself.
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Re: [Orgmode] video of the org-mode git repository
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Re: [Orgmode] Bug involving *bold* text in second level headings
Works here too, on dev emacs (24.0.50.3) with org 36trans release_6.36.58.g99afb. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Bug involving *bold* text in second level headings
...ah, that's to say, EXPORT works fine. If I look closely, I see the text isn't actually made bold on the screen. But I normally don't look that closely. (my org setup uses hidden initial stars, FWIW) On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Scot Becker scot.bec...@gmail.com wrote: Works here too, on dev emacs (24.0.50.3) with org 36trans release_6.36.58.g99afb. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] import text from firefox with hyperlinks
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: On May 17, 2010, at 12:59 AM, Kestutis Matonis wrote: How can i copy/import selected page part from firefox to emacs with hyperlinks? What is wrong with just copy and paste? Well, the man wants to have hyperlinks converted to [[org][links]]. At least for my setup, there is no behind-the-scenes magic that does this. I just get the visible text, not the (invisible) links. I can't answer your original question, (though I'll be keen to see if someone can), but you also might be interested in org-protocol, which can pass a URL, a document title and a selected region directly from a web browser to a running instance of Emacs. AFAIK,l it doesn't do link formatting, but it will pass the link to the page you're looking at. See this blissfully complex introduction to it. http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-protocol.php org-annotation-helper is a simpler tool that also does this. http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-annotation-helper.php Scot ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] one .emacs on multiple computers
Many thanks from me too, Jan. That's very helpful. Scot On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Jan Böcker jan.boec...@jboecker.de wrote: On 05/13/2010 03:48 AM, charles snyder wrote: Can I just do something like: (defvar cls-org-file C:/Users/clsnyder/My Documents/My Dropbox/emacs_org/) ;; WINDOWS VERSION (defvar cls-org-file /Users/clsnyder/Dropbox/emacs_org/) ;; IMAC VERSION and then in each of the various .emacs files on each of the machines, just do something like this throughout the file: (add-to-list 'load-path cls-org-file + org-mode6.35i/lisp ) (add-to-list 'load-path cls-org-file + personal.org http://personal.org ) Yes, that approach works. Create a directory for your org-mode configuration in your dropbox directory, say /path/to/dropbox/emacs-config/. Put the contents of your .emacs in, say, emacs-config/init.el. In the .emacs file on each machine, put: (setq cls/config-dir /absolute/path/to/dropbox/emacs-config/) ; note the trailing slash! (load (concat cls/config-dir init.el)) In init.el, set the `custom-file' variable to make the emacs customize interface store its data under the dropbox directory: (setq custom-file (concat cls/config-dir customize.el)) Assuming your org-mode checkout is at emacs-config/org-mode6.35i, use (add-to-list 'load-path (concat cls/config-dir org-mode6.35i/lisp)) (require 'org) ; other org-mode setup stuff If you want to have some machine-specific configuration, there is no need to use different files for different machines -- just check for the hostname. For example, I use org-mode on my laptop and my n900 smartphone, so my startup files include: (setq jb/system (cond ((string-match N900 system-name) 'n900) ((string-match pythagoras system-name) 'laptop) (t 'unknown))) and later I can do: (when (eq jb/system 'n900) (blink-cursor-mode 0)) to disable blink-cursor-mode on the n900 to save battery power. (Emacs idle CPU usage with blink-cursor-mode: 1.5%. Without: 0% :) ) Because the path to your org files is rather long, you also might be interested in this post, where Nathan Neff describes a way to easily define shortcuts to jump to frequently used files/headings: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/25106/ HTH, Jan ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Poll: Who is using these commands
I use those four combos, but not too often, and I think I'd prefer to map them to CM-[npud]. On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de wrote: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: Hi everyone, I am wondering: How many of your are using these keys C-c C-f C-c C-b C-c C-n C-c C-p I never did. To many keypresses to navigate fast. I bound C-DOWN C-UP to forward- and backward-paragraph, which perfect for me. Sebastian ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] suggestion: display of #+TITLE
I like it. This is a great little piece of work. Thanks a lot. Scot On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 3:34 AM, Dan Davison davi...@stats.ox.ac.uk wrote: Carsten, Scot -- Scot Becker scot.bec...@gmail.com writes: Or what about---in the spirit of the 'hidden' outline stars---the option to set #+TITLE: and friends in a 'barely visible' color, and in the 'standard' font of the document, if that's possible. OK, I understand that suddenly-disappearing text might be confusing. My intention was to help in the current efforts to avoid making org seem too technical to people coming from more mainstream software, by providing a clean document title. But OK, so magical hiding off by default. Scot's suggestion seems like a good intermediate position. Below is a new version of the patch which follows that. I resisted the temptation to go crazy with the barely visible-ness, just the same as other dimmed text in org (archived, code, etc). An image is at http://www.princeton.edu/~ddavison/org-faces/Default-MidnightBlue-DimmedKeywords.pnghttp://www.princeton.edu/%7Eddavison/org-faces/Default-MidnightBlue-DimmedKeywords.png As sexy as it is, really hiding the markup is a fair break from most (all?) of 'standard' org mode, Right, apart from links I guess. Org users are used to sudden hiding behaviour on their part. [...] On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dan, I think the patch is almost good. I do like the larger face for the title, and I know that some themes also use larger faces for headlines. But I think we at least need a variable governing if the keyword will be made invisible or not. In addition to the new faces, I've introduced a new variable org-hidden-keywords which is a list of special keywords to hide, with a customise interface. At the moment that allows for hiding of #+TITLE, #+AUTHOR, #+DATE and #+EMAIL. By default all hiding is off. Dan --8---cut here---start-8--- diff --git a/lisp/org-faces.el b/lisp/org-faces.el index e336b3c..fc80e82 100644 --- a/lisp/org-faces.el +++ b/lisp/org-faces.el @@ -59,6 +59,19 @@ The foreground color of this face should be equal to the background color of the frame. :group 'org-faces) +(defface org-dim; similar to shadow + (org-compatible-face 'shadow +'class color grayscale) (min-colors 88) (background light)) + (:foreground grey50)) + (((class color grayscale) (min-colors 88) (background dark)) + (:foreground grey70)) + (((class color) (min-colors 8) (background light)) + (:foreground green)) + (((class color) (min-colors 8) (background dark)) + (:foreground yellow + Face used to de-emphasise text by dimming. + :group 'org-faces) + (defface org-level-1 ;; originally copied from font-lock-function-name-face (org-compatible-face 'outline-1 'class color) (min-colors 88) (background light)) (:foreground Blue1)) @@ -468,6 +481,41 @@ changes. :group 'org-faces :version 22.1) +(defface org-document-title + 'class color) (background light)) (:foreground midnight blue :weight bold :height 1.44)) +(((class color) (background dark)) (:foreground steel blue :weight bold :height 1.44)) +(t (:weight bold :height 1.44))) + Face for document title, i.e. that which follows the #+TITLE: keyword. + :group 'org-faces) + +(defface org-document-author + 'class color) (background light)) (:foreground midnight blue)) +(((class color) (background dark)) (:foreground steel blue))) + Face for document author, i.e. that which follows the #+AUTHOR: keyword. + :group 'org-faces) + +(defface org-document-email + (org-compatible-face 'org-document-author '((t nil))) + Face for document email, i.e. that which follows the #+EMAIL: keyword. + :group 'org-faces) + +(defface org-document-date + (org-compatible-face 'org-document-author '((t nil))) + Face for document date, i.e. that which follows the #+DATE: keyword. + :group 'org-faces) + +(org-copy-face 'org-dim 'org-document-title-keyword + Face for #+TITLE: keyword.) + +(org-copy-face 'org-dim 'org-document-author-keyword + Face for #+AUTHOR: keyword.) + +(org-copy-face 'org-dim 'org-document-email-keyword + Face for #+EMAIL: keyword.) + +(org-copy-face 'org-dim 'org-document-date-keyword + Face for #+DATE: keyword.) + (defface org-block (org-compatible-face 'shadow 'class color grayscale) (min-colors 88) (background light)) diff --git a/lisp/org.el b/lisp/org.el index dad8649..4410f46 100644 --- a/lisp/org.el +++ b/lisp/org.el @@ -2975,6 +2975,17 @@ lines to the buffer: :group 'org-font-lock :type 'boolean) +(defcustom org-hidden-keywords nil + List of keywords that should be hidden when typed in the org buffer. +For example, add #+TITLE to this list in order to make
Re: [Orgmode] suggestion: display of #+TITLE
Or what about---in the spirit of the 'hidden' outline stars---the option to set #+TITLE: and friends in a 'barely visible' color, and in the 'standard' font of the document, if that's possible. As sexy as it is, really hiding the markup is a fair break from most (all?) of 'standard' org mode, where what you see is what you got.Even the invisible starts are there when you cursor over them. Just my 2p. Scot On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Dan, I think the patch is almost good. I do like the larger face for the title, and I know that some themes also use larger faces for headlines. But I think we at least need a variable governing if the keyword will be made invisible or not. If you type #+email:, for example, that string does disappear without a trace, and that is very confusing. In fact, my preference would be to not make the keyword invisible. Thanks - Carsten On Mar 22, 2010, at 2:24 AM, Dan Davison wrote: Dan Davison davi...@stats.ox.ac.uk writes: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On Mar 16, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Dan Davison wrote: Might it be worth considering a special display for the #+title line in org buffers? Currently it is easy for the title to get buried among more technical configuration lines like #+options, #+startup, #+seq_toto etc. One can take the approach of leaving #+title at the top of the document, and moving the other config lines elesewhere, but even so I am wondering whether anyone else is attracted by the idea of providing an org-title display property that would hide the #+title: component, and use an appropriate face for the title text. In some ways, the current state gives the impression that the title is something which becomes important during export, but is not really a key component of document when it is being viewed in emacs. For example, I expect others are familiar with the experience of exporting an org file without a title, finding that the first heading has been used as a title, and then going back to add in the title as an afterthought. But a title is an important part of a document, and I thought perhaps a special title display would help to make the title more of a first class citizen in org buffers? Hi Dan, I agree. Maybe he same should be true for DATE and AUTHOR, maybe EMAIL? Would you like to make a patch for this, introducing a new face and applying it to these constructs? I've made a proposed patch (below). This involved making a few decisions about appearance -- it would be great to get other peoples' views and alternative proposals. At the risk of stating the obvious, I think we should ask the question What might attract new users to org-mode most?, rather than query our personal preferences (because we can all change it ourselves or fire off an email to this list asking how). Here's my main proposal (corresponding to the patch below). Note that in the first 4 lines the #+TITLE: and #+AUTHOR: etc bits are still there, but invisible. [I've also put the screenshots at http://www.princeton.edu/~ddavison/org-faces/] [Default-MidnightBlue.png] Default-MidnightBlue.png The main issue then is that I'm suggesting making the title face larger than the other faces. This would be the only large face in org-mode, but I thought that it was appropriate for the title. Here's a version without the large title face: [Default-MidnightBlue-NoBigTitle.png] Default-MidnightBlue-NoBigTitle.png As for the colours, here's an alternative: [Default-DarkSlateGrey.png] Default-DarkSlateGrey.png The important thing is the default emacs colour theme shown above, but I did pick a colour for dark backgrounds. For what it's worth, here is what it looks like with (the excellent) color-theme-charcoal-black: [CharcoalBlack-SteelBlue.png] CharcoalBlack-SteelBlue.png Here's the patch. If anyone wants to play around, it's pretty obvious in the patch below where to change the colours (and boldness and height). Don't forget the functions list-colors-display and list-faces-display. There's at least one issue with the patch: if you leave a space between e.g. '#+TITLE:' and the start of the title text, then that space will not be made invisible and so will appear at the start of the title. I couldn't see how to avoid that without altering one of the key font-lock regexps. Dan --8---cut here---start-8--- commit 72aa791ea0bf613d50b9bf88affd6a53e91c1ebe Author: Dan Davison davi...@stats.ox.ac.uk Date: Sun Mar 21 20:26:02 2010 -0400 Alter display of title, author, email and date lines. For each of #+TITLE:, #+AUTHOR:, #+EMAIL:, #+DATE:, the initial #+KEYWORD: part is hidden and the following new faces are applied to the remaining visible part: org-title-line org-author-line org-email-line org-date-line diff --git a/lisp/org-faces.el
Re: [Orgmode] Re: AI for orgmode
I quite like Thomas' idea of packets for specific org mode uses. As a starting list consdier: writing for the web, writing for print, basic task management, full GTD, time tracking, code/LaTeX tangling. The list could obviously be edited down or up in length. Each of these packets might include Thomas' list (relevant .emacs code, sample org document, tutorial document and a screencast.) It's true that org is in some ways very simple (remember the 'taskpaper' discussion of a year ago?), for basic outlining. But it's also true that the minimal code-and-knowhow needed to do some of the specific tasks which org has proven so good at it can be a fair hurdle for a beginner to put together. In this respect the raw flexibility of org-mode (exactly like Emacs itself) has its down side. We might be able to lower the getting-started hurdle if we were able to tell people; You want to do GTD-like task management? Look here and follw the recipe. You want to outline your writing? Look here. Heaven knows you can always tweak it later. I have often thought that there would be ways to get people up and running even without the venerable Emacs tutorial. Scot ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] cannot pull from repo.or.cz today
...and here. On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 6:37 PM, David Maus dm...@ictsoc.de wrote: William Henney wrote: Is anyone else seeing this? $ git pull --verbose repo.or.cz[0: 195.113.20.142]: errno=Operation timed out fatal: unable to connect a socket (Operation timed out) Nope, works fine here. -- David -- OpenPGP... 0x99ADB83B5A4478E6 Jabber dmj...@jabber.org Email. dm...@ictsoc.de ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Writing a dissertation using org-mode
Henri-Paul, I'm doing the same, with basically the same setup, but using biblatex, and Zotero, but planning to give Mendeley a serious test for PDF management. (And yes there are still problems and repeated manual tweaking associated with using Zotero + bibtex. The export is just not bibtex-y enough). It remains to be seen whether I'll wish I had worked in pure LaTeX at the end. It's true that I have run into occaisional problems with the latex conversion. Sometimes things like quotes () and italics next to each other can conflict. (I haven't done recent tests to see if I still have these problems). But the org-mode community has seemed pretty wiling to help navigate, fix or work around these problems. Still, I like the outlinability the oversee-ability of keeping all my work in org-mode, as well as the ability to use comments and inline TODOs. (they're not really inline, but they are independant of the outline structure.) And I figure when the thing is nearing its final form, I'll nix org if I have to and just work in the exportd LaTeX. My next small project is finding a way to make my thesis.org file keep a standard header outline (where the '** Headlines hold the text that will eventually head the chapters, sections and subsections), and also an outline of my argument, which won't be printed, but is more useful for the writing process. I've tried a few things but have not settled on anything yet. Keep well, Scot On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Torsten Wagner torsten.wag...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Henri, On 03/04/2010 01:45 PM, Henri-Paul Indiogine wrote: I started writing my doctoral dissertation in history using org-mode. I am also using git.el for my version control and gnus for my email. Of course I export my org file to LaTeX which I compile to pdf. My bibliography is managed using BibTeX. please consider that you might have to follow a very stricy layout style depening on your university, department, lab or supervisor. If your are lucky there will be a LaTeX template somewhere at your university. If you are unlucky there is nothing like that or even worse only a MS-word template. I'm not sure how good org-mode might be usable in that case. org-mode is really great and I try to use it for many purposes. However, for a thesis I would use directly LaTeX which gives me a bit more control of what is going on. Furthermore, try biber [1] and biblatex [2]... the somehow next generation of bibtex and bib-file compatible. For me they work very well already despite of the fact that they are still beta-versions. biblatex gives you much more freedom of formatting your citations and bibliography... I guess both highly needed in your scientific field. Good luck Torsten [1] http://biblatex-biber.sourceforge.net/ [2] http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/biblatex.html ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] RE: Org-Mode for Nexus One?
On that page, I assume it's the check it phase of the cycle. It's a little confusing since the article has similar concepts to your signature, think it, ink it... but it's not exactly the same loop. You review last. He checks third. But anyway, wouldn't checking/reviewing be quite different depending on what sort of work you're doing? And org does have certain visibility and export features which could help--not to mention checkboxes with dynamically updated cumulative 'done' percentages---but as you said, a short description like you gave would need to be filled out with a little more detail. What do you mean by 'review it' and what aspect of the review stage do want to facilitate? Scot On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Dennis, I did read the PDCA page you mentioned - but the word review does not even appear in it. So I guess I do not understand yet what you might mean with a review-it mode. Either I am too stupid, or you have enemies that edit Wikipedia as soon as you have referenced an article, or you linked to the wrong page, or ...? :-) Anyway, please enlighten me. - Carsten On Feb 28, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Dennis Groves wrote: Hello fellow org-mode users and Carsten, Since 2008 I have used org-mode to manage my work and life, and likely in the most rudimentary ways compared to many of you, especially considering the features of org-mode... Recently, I have recently procured a google android nexus-one phone and would love to see something like the mobileorg for nexus; does anybody else have a similar interest? Carsten: org mode allows us to think it, ink it, and do it: any chance of getting a review it mode into org-mode? if you have no idea what I am talking about (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDCA) and this is a fairly vague requirement I will be happy to discuss it further... -- Dennis Groves co-founder of OWASP.org E: dennis dot groves at gmail dot com Think it, Ink it, Do it, Review it ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Github understands us
Wow. That's nice. Now if only I could fork Github itself On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.dewrote: Andrea Crotti andrea.crott...@gmail.com writes: Maybe some of you already noticed, but I found out that actually github understands org-mode! If you put a README.org it just works, there surely are some minor problems (for example footnotes) but see for example here http://github.com/AndreaCrotti/Razz for an example. That's cl :-) ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Org2Mobile Announcement
[resent due to what looks like a problem with gnu.org accepting mail from gmail] This does look interesting, and I too, would be glad to try it on my E63 (S60 3rd ed). I'm not a Windows user either, and would be most glad if I could set up my own server. Scot ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] [feature request] Quotation marks in LaTeX export
For what it's worth, I also think that an option to do this would be useful.
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Sven Bretfeld sven.bretf...@gmx.ch wrote:
Hi
Sven Bretfeld sven.bretf...@gmx.ch writes:
Quotation marks like these are converted to ``these'' by
org-export-latex. It would be much better to use \enquote{these}.
I have seen that org-latex.el links the quotation marks to the LANG
environment. So far only French and English are supported. I think this
is more complicated than it needs to be. Anyway, users with a French
environment also write English texts from time to time. We already have
a user-configurable, language-sensitive solution with the
csquotes-package. Why not use it?
On my system, I just changed the respective code in org-latex.el to
\enquote{}. It's working and it's easy. But it will be gone with the
next update.
Greetings,
Sven
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Re: [Orgmode] Clock logging -- possible to include seconds?
I have no idea if it's possible. If it turns out not to be, you could console yourself with the thought that the rounding error will most likely be spread around. So everyone gets 'stolen from' about as often as they get 'given to'. On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Bill Powell b...@billpowellisalive.comwrote: Hi folks, Thanks again to y'all for org-mode. Here's a quick question: how hard would it be to include seconds in the clock logging? It may sound like a silly request, but I often have to work on two or three billable different projects in a day, sometimes switching back and forth between them. When you add up all those intervals for an invoice covering a month or more, counting those half and quarter minutes might add up to an additional hour or so of billable time. It's possible I'm just misunderstanding the org-mode algorithm, and that its rounding turns out to be almost as accurate over the long haul. Plus, many people expect to be billed by the half hour anyhow. But I time various projects for myself, too, so this is really an interest for my own work. What do you all think? Bill Powell ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] FR: org-hide-context
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Re: [Orgmode] Beamer support in Org-mode
For what it's worth, my preparation style would follow Mark's. Chart the
flow of what I want to say in org, ideally using whatever hierarchy I need
to do it, then export the outline and essential detail for
beamer-and/or-handouts. I'd keep the teaching notes to myself (and keep
them part of the same outline) if there was a way to do it. I'm happy to
use the \notes{} proposal until the org-hive figures out if something more
elegant can be done.
Scot
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Mark Elston m_els...@comcast.net wrote:
I have been following this discussion with some interest as it may
provide the basis for something I am interested in doing as well.
I hope my discussion doesn't muddy the waters too much...
Nick Dokos wrote:
Darlan Cavalcante Moreira darc...@gmail.com wrote:
At Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:09:33 +0100,
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote:
...
I still don't have any better ideas than this to represent notes
in Org for beamer presentations. Just writing \noe{...} as you
suggest will certainly work - the disadvantage is that this does
not make a lot of sense when exporting to other formats.
One option would be to turn all those notes into footnotes
for other export.
I'd really be interested to get more input on this issue.
- Carsten
Maybe it is better to simple ignore notes when exporting to other
formats.
For me notes in beamer are useful only to give me an idea of what I
intend to
talk about in the presentation and help me training for the presentation.
They
are not really part of the final exported document and sometimes I put
a lot
of information in them (possible in a different language from the
presentation).
Also, the contents in notes can be anything such as a table or a figure.
This
obviously would result in an error if or if org tried to put them into a
footnote when exporting to other formats.
Therefore, the question is has anyone here any interest in notes when
exporting
to other formats or do they only make sense when exporting to beamer?
My case is similar. I teach a class each week and, so far, have created
two documents; a set of handouts and my notes for teaching. Generally
these documents start from the same original and I modify and expand the
notes I use for teaching while leaving the handouts a smaller doc for
those in the class to take their own notes from.
I don't use beamer as the handouts tend to be 6-8 pages of 'normal' text
as it is and my teaching notes are usually far larger. I don't want to
manipulate a stack of paper while teaching.
For me, notes are rather important: in addition to reminding me what to
say, they are essentially a second level to the presentation (and I
always include them in any handouts). Somebody who has a vague interest
in the subject can look at the slides. If they want to go into it a bit
deeper, they can look at the notes.
My case is similar but I don't 'expose' my teaching notes to the
students for a variety of reasons.
...
So unless somebody comes up with a really good idea, delaying any
org-specific implementation might be the best way forward: it would save
wear-and-tear on Carsten, allow the rest of us to catch up and gather
some experience and perhaps come up with better ideas on how to handle
this.
Nick
I guess my request is similar to what has been discussed above in that I
would *very* much like to maintain handouts and teaching material in the
same file and then export it to two different files as necessary. This
would make my job a lot easier to manage. I could decide which tables,
figures, text, etc are common to both docs and which are just for me and
everything happens automatically behind the scenes.
Beamer output is not critical for me (or even necessarily desired) right
now but I would like a way of marking some text for 'limited' export.
Using a special notation is not a problem if it gives me the ability to
maintain a single document that I can export to two different LaTeX/PDF
docs.
Mark
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Re: [Orgmode] Install orgmode alongside older version?
Though I don't know NTemacs, you should have no problem just following the docs. The trick is that you will be adding your new path/to/org-mode to the *front* of your load-path, so emacs will find it first. The old code will still be there, it just won't be used. No harm done, and minimal changes made. Org development proceeds much faster than Emacs, and the Emacs maintainers have a very conservative policy about inclusions. The result is that so far, the versions of org mode in an Emacs release are oldish versions already when the Emacs versions that include them are released. The Emacs-release versions of org-mode do have many bugs squashed that come up in the interval between their inclusion and the Emacs release, but not the new features. And since org has gotten some cool stuff lately, almost everyone who wants to really milk it has to do exactly what you'll be doing: install it afresh. (And in two months you may be wondering how you can get the development git version). Let us know if you need any help. if you need any help after reading the docs (and the Worg FAQ, then we need to improve Worg). Cheers, and welcome, Scot On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Uriel Avalos amscopub-m...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm running NTemacs. I thought it was a bleeding edge version but it is apparantly running an old version of orgmode (5.03b). How can I install the latest version? Can I follow the official docs? The docs seem to assume that orgmode is *not* installed on your system. If I add a load-path, will that overwrite the old orgmode installed on my system? -- --Thanks! Uriel ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Org needs your vote
On the upside, Lifehacker is much more mainstream than, say, Sourceforge. And to be in the top five is pretty impressive. (And lifehacker readers know that the actual polls are a bit of a joke. They ask for 'the best' X, but it's not as if the voters have actually tried each of the contenders.). Anyway, this is Emacs in a pretty public limelight. I like it. Scot On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 7:47 PM, plutek-infinity plu...@infinity.net wrote: Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:49:36 -0400 From: Norbert Zeh n...@cs.dal.ca IMO, the low rating of org-mode on this list shows that most people prefer flashy GUIs over extreme power, efficiency, and flexibility. Then again, that seems to be the general state in today's computing world. yes... and, really, the word computing is entirely optional in your last sentence. the poll points to a much more generalized preference for style and ease-of-use over flexibility and engagement of the mind. ugh. cheers! -- .pltk. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] report a bug
It looks as if the 'snapshot' version available for lenny is pre-August: Archive contents: lenny|main|i386: emacs-snapshot 1:20090730-1~lenny1 lenny|main|amd64: emacs-snapshot 1:20090730-1~lenny1 lenny|main|source: emacs-snapshot 1:20090730-1~lenny1 (from http://emacs.orebokech.com/) Wow, that's a pretty severe bug for the release version to contain for so long. I've experienced it several times, but I couldn't put together what the fault was. It may not help you, but I see that the emacs-snapshot version for Ubuntu 9.10 (karmic) is from Sept 27. Scot On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Wentao, this was Emacs bug #4131 which was fixed in August. You need a newer version of Emacs than that, best the current CVS version. - Carsten On Dec 2, 2009, at 8:53 AM, Wentao Zheng wrote: Hi I don't know what's real cause of the bug, the emacs, or the org-mode. The bug looks like this: when I edit org file, then type back tab or use the menu to trigger global cycling function, the emacs sometimes will crash with an error message: Fatal error (11)Segmentation fault It happens frequently when the cursor is located at non-header text. It seems that if I change the cursor position into some places such as the start of the document, it never crashes. I'm using emacs-snapshot in debian lenny, with Linux kernel 2.6.31. And the org-mode is checked out from git repository. Both latest version of org-mode and 6.33 have the bug. Thanks -- Wentao Zheng ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Bug: Footnotes in combination with LaTeX fragments is broken in latest trunk
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Re: [Orgmode] Bug: Footnotes in combination with LaTeX fragments is broken in latest trunk
I noticed this this week as well. I don't know how to do a backtrace
(though I'll look it up and try) but attached (and pasted below) is a
sample file.
Scot
(Edit: and the backtrace)
#+TITLE: Some Lorem
* Heading
If you do a \autocite{key_} followed by an org-footnote[fn:: You
seem to get an error.] Does this happen for you too?
The error is Invalid use of `\' in replacement text.
If you do a \autocite{key_} and break the line
like this [fn:: No trouble now.] everything's fine. I notice this
because I use long-lines mode.
And I just realized that I do this kind of thing with some
frequency:[fn:: See the fine discussion of this and other relevant
matters in \fullcite{bibtexkey_}] Do I have any hope that that
might be made to work? At the moment, it throws the same error. If I
need to I can use LaTeX footnote for this kind of thing, since I
already do live with the limitations that imposes (no HTML export).
--
Backtrace:
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error Invalid use of `\\' in replacement text)
replace-match(\\[1])
org-footnote-normalize(nil t)
org-export-preprocess-string(#(#+TITLE: Some Lorem\n\n* Heading
\n\n\nIf you do a \\autocite{key_} followed by an
org-footnote[fn:: You seem to get an error.] Blah here.\n\nThe error
is \Invalid use of `\\' in replacement text.\\n\nIf you do a
\\autocite{key_} and break the line \nlike this [fn:: No trouble
now.] everything's fine. I notice this because I use long-lines
mode.\n\nAnd I just realized that I do this kind of thing with some
frequency:[fn:: See the fine discussion of this and other relevant
matters in \\fullcite{bibtexkey_}] Do I have any hope that that
might be made to work? At the moment, it throws the same error. If I
need to I can use LaTeX footnote for this kind of thing, since I
already do live with the limitations that imposes (no HTML
export).\n\n\n\n\n\n 0 19 (fontified nil font-lock-fontified t
:org-license-to-kill t) 19 20 (fontified nil :org-license-to-kill t)
20 21 (fontified nil) 21 23 (fontified nil) 23 31 (fontified nil) 31
34 (fontified nil) 34 138 (fontified nil) 138 347 (fontified nil) 347
746 (fontified nil) 746 751 (fontified nil)) :emph-multiline t
:for-LaTeX t :comments nil :tags not-in-toc :priority nil :footnotes t
:drawers nil :timestamps t :todo-keywords t :add-text nil
:skip-before-1st-heading nil :select-tags (export) :exclude-tags
(noexport) :LaTeX-fragments nil)
org-export-as-latex(nil nil nil *Org LaTeX Export*)
org-export-as-latex-to-buffer(nil)
call-interactively(org-export-as-latex-to-buffer)
org-export(nil)
call-interactively(org-export nil nil)
newbug.org
Description: Binary data
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[Orgmode] Bug: Org finds footnotes in LaTeX export where none are intended [6.33trans (release_6.33f.35.g3efe)]
I cite my references in org like this.\autocite[231]{bibtexkey_2009},
where '231' is the relevant page number. When exporting to LaTeX, Org
thinks that the value in square brackets is a footnote number and
produces a document with a footnote definition not found: 231 error
message at the bottom of the document. My settings are below, and
I've searched pretty hard through them to look for anything that might
have caused it. Any ideas?
Many thanks.
Scot
(sample org file, output, and my full org configuration included below)
Sample file:
#+TITLE: Some Lorem
#+LaTeX_CLASS: mychapter
* Heading
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do
eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enimad
minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut
aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in
reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla
pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in
culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est
laborum.\autocite[51]{Einstein_1950}
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do
eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enimad
minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut
aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.\autocite[123]{dominik_2010} Duis
aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum
dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non
proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est
laborum.\autocite[xxi]{spacebook_2001}
--
output (edited):
---
% Created 2009-11-26 Thu 11:22
\documentclass[12pt,oneside,a4paper]{book}
\title{Some Lorem}
\author{Scot Becker}
\date{26 November 2009}
\begin{document}
\maketitle
\setcounter{tocdepth}{3}
\tableofcontents
\vspace*{1cm}
\section{Heading}
\label{sec-1}
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do
eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enimad
minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut
aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in
reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla
pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in
culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est
laborum.\autocite[1]{Einstein_1950}
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do
eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enimad
minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut
aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.\autocite[2]{dominik_2010} Duis aute
irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu
fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident,
sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est
laborum.\autocite[xxi]{spacebook_2001}
$^{1}$ FOOTNOTE DEFINITION NOT FOUND: 51
$^{2}$ FOOTNOTE DEFINITION NOT FOUND: 123
\end{document}
---Settings---
Emacs : GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.3)
of 2009-11-10 on vernadsky, modified by Debian
Package: Org-mode version 6.33trans (release_6.33f.35.g3efe)
current state:
==
(setq
org-export-html-final-hook '(org-inlinetask-remove-terminator)
org-export-ascii-final-hook '(org-inlinetask-remove-terminator)
org-hide-leading-stars t
org-metaup-hook '(org-babel-load-in-session-maybe)
org-footnote-section nil
org-after-todo-state-change-hook '(org-clock-out-if-current)
org-babel-interpreters '(sh emacs-lisp)
org-export-preprocess-hook '(org-export-blocks-preprocess)
org-tab-first-hook '(org-hide-block-toggle-maybe)
org-src-mode-hook '(org-src-mode-configure-edit-buffer)
org-confirm-shell-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
org-agenda-before-write-hook '(org-agenda-add-entry-text)
org-default-notes-file ~/org/notes.org
org-cycle-hook '(org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees
org-cycle-hide-drawers org-cycle-show-empty-lines
org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change)
org-export-latex-classes '((article
\\documentclass[11pt]{article}\n\\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}\n\\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}\n\\usepackage{graphicx}\n\\usepackage{longtable}\n\\usepackage{hyperref}
(\\section{%s} . \\section*{%s})
(\\subsection{%s} . \\subsection*{%s})
(\\subsubsection{%s} .
\\subsubsection*{%s}) (\\paragraph{%s} . \\paragraph*{%s})
(\\subparagraph{%s} . \\subparagraph*{%s}))
(xetex-article
\\documentclass[11pt]{article}\n\\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}\n\\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}\n\\usepackage{graphicx}\n\\usepackage{longtable}\n\\usepackage{hyperref\\usepackage{fontspec}\n%
BEGIN My Article Defaults\n\\input{~/org/thesis-header.tex}\n% END My
Article Defaults}
(\\section{%s} . \\section*{%s
Re: [Orgmode] Bug: Org finds footnotes in LaTeX export where none are intended [6.33trans (release_6.33f.35.g3efe)]
Wonderful. I, for one don't mind the font lock problem. You have to
leave some problems for your successor, (long may he wait).
Gratefully,
Scot
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Carsten Dominik
carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Scott,
I have fixed this for export - but the string are still highlighted as
footnotes
by font-lock, this is harder to solve.
- Carsten
On Nov 26, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Scot Becker wrote:
I cite my references in org like this.\autocite[231]{bibtexkey_2009},
where '231' is the relevant page number. When exporting to LaTeX, Org
thinks that the value in square brackets is a footnote number and
produces a document with a footnote definition not found: 231 error
message at the bottom of the document. My settings are below, and
I've searched pretty hard through them to look for anything that might
have caused it. Any ideas?
Many thanks.
Scot
(sample org file, output, and my full org configuration included below)
Sample file:
#+TITLE: Some Lorem
#+LaTeX_CLASS: mychapter
* Heading
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do
eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enimad
minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut
aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in
reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla
pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in
culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est
laborum.\autocite[51]{Einstein_1950}
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do
eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enimad
minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut
aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.\autocite[123]{dominik_2010} Duis
aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum
dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non
proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est
laborum.\autocite[xxi]{spacebook_2001}
--
output (edited):
---
% Created 2009-11-26 Thu 11:22
\documentclass[12pt,oneside,a4paper]{book}
\title{Some Lorem}
\author{Scot Becker}
\date{26 November 2009}
\begin{document}
\maketitle
\setcounter{tocdepth}{3}
\tableofcontents
\vspace*{1cm}
\section{Heading}
\label{sec-1}
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do
eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enimad
minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut
aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in
reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla
pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in
culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est
laborum.\autocite[1]{Einstein_1950}
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do
eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enimad
minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut
aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.\autocite[2]{dominik_2010} Duis aute
irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu
fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident,
sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est
laborum.\autocite[xxi]{spacebook_2001}
$^{1}$ FOOTNOTE DEFINITION NOT FOUND: 51
$^{2}$ FOOTNOTE DEFINITION NOT FOUND: 123
\end{document}
---Settings---
Emacs : GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.3)
of 2009-11-10 on vernadsky, modified by Debian
Package: Org-mode version 6.33trans (release_6.33f.35.g3efe)
current state:
==
(setq
org-export-html-final-hook '(org-inlinetask-remove-terminator)
org-export-ascii-final-hook '(org-inlinetask-remove-terminator)
org-hide-leading-stars t
org-metaup-hook '(org-babel-load-in-session-maybe)
org-footnote-section nil
org-after-todo-state-change-hook '(org-clock-out-if-current)
org-babel-interpreters '(sh emacs-lisp)
org-export-preprocess-hook '(org-export-blocks-preprocess)
org-tab-first-hook '(org-hide-block-toggle-maybe)
org-src-mode-hook '(org-src-mode-configure-edit-buffer)
org-confirm-shell-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
org-agenda-before-write-hook '(org-agenda-add-entry-text)
org-default-notes-file ~/org/notes.org
org-cycle-hook '(org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees
org-cycle-hide-drawers org-cycle-show-empty-lines
org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change)
org-export-latex-classes '((article
\\documentclass[11pt]{article}\n\\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}\n\\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}\n\\usepackage{graphicx}\n\\usepackage{longtable}\n\\usepackage{hyperref}
(\\section{%s} . \\section*{%s})
(\\subsection{%s} . \\subsection*{%s
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Collaborate with heretics
Yours is an interesting question, and it's one I've thought about as well. I have a friend just starting a PhD, and she was asking me how I keep my work. Org+emacs is great for me.I sometimes also think anyone who needs a robust tool and can muster the patience to learn it should try org/Emacs. But then I shake my head. I'm still just a beginner after a year, unable to muster more than the simplest elisp, forever forgetting bindings and printing out new lists to past to my office walls. Emacs has come along with the times in some very nice ways, but, friends, it's /hard/. My friend is not a big fan of computers (wants to 'do work', imagine!) So I had a hard time recommending it to her. I don't mean to push Andrea's question off topic. We could debate that statement. I debate it myself all the time. (Is Emacs hard or is it easy?) But it's at least arguably hard. Or rather, it's hard to stick only to the easy stuff. As to Andrea's question. It's true that most editors aren't capable of producing a full implementation of something like org-mode (is any?), but perhaps one or two implementations of org-lite would be a useful thing, for collaboration, and for beginners. It could perhaps even use the org-mobile framework. And about the full 'spec'. I think the best we've got is the manual. which is not bad, though it's not a full spec in the same way as the Restructured Text manual. Scot On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 12:48 PM, andrea andrea.crott...@gmail.com wrote: andrea andrea.crott...@gmail.com writes: Sorry for the double post, I thought I had an error and didn't listen to gnus when it was saying it was a duplicate. Anyway I did some researches and I only noticed that there are vim users looking for something equivalent to org-mode for vim. To simplify things at maximum I think just keeping orgstruct without even tables would be already something. Is there a complete grammar somewhere? I could try to write something for textmate, the only editor I know which is so easily configurable... ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] LaTeX habits and org-mode
Emmanuel,
If the introduction LOOKs just like a normal chapter, then you just do:
* Introduction
In this paper I indend to once and for all solve the problem of [blaaa].
* Chapter One: The Problem
* Chapter Two: Lame Previous Attempts at a Solution
* Chapter Three: Appproach it Like This
* Chapter Four: The Goods
In other words, if this section is a chapter unto itself, just give it its
own top level heading. What you then have to pay attention to is the way
the org exports the LaTeX, which you do by adding a configuration to the
org-export-latex-classes list, something like this:
(setq org-export-latex-classes '((book
\\documentclass[11pt]{book}\n\\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}\n\\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}\n\\usepackage{graphicx}\n\\usepackage{longtable}\n\\usepackage{hyperref}
(\\chapter{%s} . \\chapter*{%s})
(\\section{%s} . \\section*{%s})
(\\subsection{%s} . \\subsection*{%s})
(\\subsubsection{%s} . \\subsubsection*{%s}
I'm not sure if this one is useful as it is, so you might want to look at
other (better formatted) examples as well. But the trick is just to tell
org to assign first level headings to 'chapters'.
Now if you don't want your introduction chapter numbered, that's a slightly
different problem, which I'm not sure I know how to solve.
Hope that gets you started.
Scot
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Emmanuel Di Pretoro
edipret...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi,
I'm currently writing a document with org-mode instead of LaTeX. Usually,
with LaTeX, the first section of such a document is a
\chapter*{Introduction} where I explain the context of the document. How can
I do that with org-mode ?
Thanks in advance,
Emmanuel Di Pretoro
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[Orgmode] Re: A Header outline and an Argument outline in one?
Thanks, Bernt for the suggestion and for working up that test file. I think you're right, that something like that will work. The minor disadvantage is that it puts the 'argument' after the body text that expresses it, but the huge advantage is that everything is already in place. I've extended your sample document to try it, and I think it could work for me. Now I'll try to do some work that way. Thanks, Scot On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Bernt Hansen be...@norang.ca wrote: Scot Becker scot.bec...@gmail.com writes: Greetings, org-moders, I use org for academic writing, and it seems to me that org might be a good way (perhaps even the only existing way) to keep the following two kinds of outline structures in one place: 1. The typographic outline. Headers and Subheaders that should organize my final document. 2. The argument outline. The running structure of my argument, not finally published but visible to me as I organize and write. This should also be printable as an outline, to discuss my ongoing work. Right now I do use org to do (1), as part of my writing, which then gets exported to LaTeX. This is nothing new. Org makes a fantastic sandbox for (2). But it isn't very easy to keep them both together. I'm thinking of a way that: (a) I can use org's great outlining UI to do either (1) or (2), in the same outline structure, even if not at the same time. (b) keeps them both together, so I can use (2) to prompt my writing. (c) Lets me just print the argument outline (i.e. with the easylist[1] latex package), or just the document headings, or both (c) lets me keep my statements of argument with my text as my written piece develops, and possibly (e) lets me have argument statements for small sections that I don't want typographical headings for. (Paragraphs yet to be written). It seems to me that the only way to be able to use org-ui to do and keep a non published argument outline is to have a mechanism that would exchange the org heading (* Chapter One ) with the argument statements when I tell it to. It could then store the currently inactive 'header' either in a commented line or an org-property. This would allow all the goodness of org to operate freely on either kind of node title, and the typical export case which keeps the Argument lines hidden, or exports them as comments. I could then have another mechanism which would allow both headers AND argument lines to be exported to LaTeX/HTML, for those cases when I want a talking points outline to discuss with my supervisor, or to work on the whole in pen-and-paper mode. I assume such a mechanism would either put the two headers together in one heading (* Chapter One :: The Music of the 50s made a generation crazy), or somehow export the property containing the Argument AS the body text, or as the argument of a custom latex command. (e) above is a bit of another matter, and I'm not sure how to accomplish it in orgmode, which only has native capacity to supress whole nodes, not just the headers, but it would be a great addition, since it would let me do pre-writing outlining at a far finer level. I am an elisp learner (as an Emacs user must be, I suppose), but still very early in my elisp childhood. I would be very grateful for some ideas about the best way to accomplish this, and/or some guidance about what code I might take model these things on. And of course any expressions of enthusiasm for the idea, or hacks that already accomplish something like it are mightily welcome. Hi Scot I think you can do most if not all of what you want with tags. I'm not sure but I think you want to keep your notes and arguments inline with your document structure something like this: Consider the following test org-mode document ,[ test.org ] | #+EXPORT_SELECT_TAGS: | #+EXPORT_EXCLUDE_TAGS: argument note | | * One | Stuff about One | ** One.Argument :argument: | Argument for One | * Two | Stuff about Two | ** Two.One | Stuff about Two.One | ** Some note about two :note: | This is a note | ** Two.Two | Stuff about Two.Two | * Three | Stuff about Three | ** Argument for Three :argument: | [2009-11-18 Wed 09:21] | *** TODO Don't forget to do this | [2009-11-18 Wed 09:22] | * Four | Stuff about Four | ** Four.One | Stuff about Four.One | ** Four.Two | Stuff about Four.Two | *** Note about Four.Two :note: | More interesting stuff | *** Four.Two.One | Stuff about Four.Two.One | Argument for Four.Two.One :argument: | [2009-11-18 Wed 09:24] | *** Four.Two.Two | Stuff about Four.Two.Two | *** Four.Two.Three | Stuff about Four.Two.Three
[Orgmode] A Header outline and an Argument outline in one?
Greetings, org-moders, I use org for academic writing, and it seems to me that org might be a good way (perhaps even the only existing way) to keep the following two kinds of outline structures in one place: 1. The typographic outline. Headers and Subheaders that should organize my final document. 2. The argument outline. The running structure of my argument, not finally published but visible to me as I organize and write. This should also be printable as an outline, to discuss my ongoing work. Right now I do use org to do (1), as part of my writing, which then gets exported to LaTeX. This is nothing new. Org makes a fantastic sandbox for (2). But it isn't very easy to keep them both together. I'm thinking of a way that: (a) I can use org's great outlining UI to do either (1) or (2), in the same outline structure, even if not at the same time. (b) keeps them both together, so I can use (2) to prompt my writing. (c) Lets me just print the argument outline (i.e. with the easylist[1] latex package), or just the document headings, or both (c) lets me keep my statements of argument with my text as my written piece develops, and possibly (e) lets me have argument statements for small sections that I don't want typographical headings for. (Paragraphs yet to be written). It seems to me that the only way to be able to use org-ui to do and keep a non published argument outline is to have a mechanism that would exchange the org heading (* Chapter One ) with the argument statements when I tell it to. It could then store the currently inactive 'header' either in a commented line or an org-property. This would allow all the goodness of org to operate freely on either kind of node title, and the typical export case which keeps the Argument lines hidden, or exports them as comments. I could then have another mechanism which would allow both headers AND argument lines to be exported to LaTeX/HTML, for those cases when I want a talking points outline to discuss with my supervisor, or to work on the whole in pen-and-paper mode. I assume such a mechanism would either put the two headers together in one heading (* Chapter One :: The Music of the 50s made a generation crazy), or somehow export the property containing the Argument AS the body text, or as the argument of a custom latex command. (e) above is a bit of another matter, and I'm not sure how to accomplish it in orgmode, which only has native capacity to supress whole nodes, not just the headers, but it would be a great addition, since it would let me do pre-writing outlining at a far finer level. I am an elisp learner (as an Emacs user must be, I suppose), but still very early in my elisp childhood. I would be very grateful for some ideas about the best way to accomplish this, and/or some guidance about what code I might take model these things on. And of course any expressions of enthusiasm for the idea, or hacks that already accomplish something like it are mightily welcome. Thanks, Scot Footnotes [1] http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/easylist/easylist-doc.pdf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] the great^n grand-daddy of orgmode? :)
Awesome indeed, and amusing. As is the picture of the occasional struggle between Man and his Interface, which perhaps never will go away. (Appreciations however, for those who try to minimize it). Thanks. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
