[O] How to place things differently in dot
I was asked to make a diagram and was thinking that dot in org-mode could
be a good idea.
I got reasonably fast the following:
#+BEGIN_SRC dot :file test.svg :cmdline -Kdot -Tsvg
graph {
utilities [label = "Utility's"]
A
B
C
D
E
F [shape = rectangle]
subgraph cluster_resources {
color=blue
resources [label = "Resources"]
}
G
H
I
K
subgraph cluster_ta {
color=blue
{rank = same; L, M}
L
M
}
{rank = same; D, E, F}
A -- F
B -- F
C -- F
A -- D
F -- E
F -- K
F -- G
F -- H
F -- I
K -- L
K -- M
L -- M
}
#+END_SRC
This is a good deal in the right direction, but a few things should be
different:
- E should be left of F
- resource should go to the second 'line' without losing its border
- K should be a 'line' lower
Are those things possible?
As attachment how it looks now.
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Cecil Westerhof
Re: [O] How to place things differently in dot
On Thursday, 26 Mar 2015 at 13:14, Cecil Westerhof wrote: > I was asked to make a diagram and was thinking that dot in org-mode could > be a good idea. [...] > This is a good deal in the right direction, but a few things should be > different: The graphviz tools are fantastic for quick and dirty graphs but the layout algorithms are not easily controlled... I would highly recommend tikz ... If you do want to use dot, I have only ever managed to get what I want by changing the order in which I specify the connections and/or more use of sub-graphs. -- : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.4.1, Org release_8.3beta-790-gb719c1.dirty
Re: [O] How to place things differently in dot
On 2015-03-26 at 11:52, e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: > The graphviz tools are fantastic for quick and dirty graphs but the > layout algorithms are not easily controlled... I would highly > recommend tikz ... Or perhaps ditaa. -k.
Re: [O] How to place things differently in dot
2015-03-26 17:07 GMT+01:00 Ken Mankoff : > > On 2015-03-26 at 11:52, e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: > > The graphviz tools are fantastic for quick and dirty graphs but the > > layout algorithms are not easily controlled... I would highly > > recommend tikz ... > > Or perhaps ditaa. > It is certainly quick. I wait if they find it acceptable: if not I can always check-out tikz or ditaa. -- Cecil Westerhof
Re: [O] How to place things differently in dot
Cecil Westerhof writes:
> I was asked to make a diagram and was thinking that dot in org-mode could
> be a good idea.
>
> I got reasonably fast the following:
> #+BEGIN_SRC dot :file test.svg :cmdline -Kdot -Tsvg
> graph {
> utilities [label = "Utility's"]
>
> A
> B
> C
>
> D
> E
> F [shape = rectangle]
>
>
> subgraph cluster_resources {
> color=blue
> resources [label = "Resources"]
> }
>
> G
> H
> I
>
> K
> subgraph cluster_ta {
> color=blue
> {rank = same; L, M}
> L
> M
> }
>
> {rank = same; D, E, F}
>
>
> A -- F
> B -- F
> C -- F
> A -- D
>
> F -- E
>
> F -- K
> F -- G
> F -- H
> F -- I
>
>
> K -- L
> K -- M
> L -- M
> }
> #+END_SRC
>
> This is a good deal in the right direction, but a few things should be
> different:
> - E should be left of F
> - resource should go to the second 'line' without losing its border
> - K should be a 'line' lower
>
> Are those things possible?
As a last resort, you can edit the svg file.
hth,
Tom
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Thomas S. Dye
http://www.tsdye.com
Re: [O] How to place things differently in dot
2015-03-26 18:00 GMT+01:00 Thomas S. Dye :
> Cecil Westerhof writes:
>
> > I was asked to make a diagram and was thinking that dot in org-mode could
> > be a good idea.
> >
> > I got reasonably fast the following:
> > #+BEGIN_SRC dot :file test.svg :cmdline -Kdot -Tsvg
> > graph {
> > utilities [label = "Utility's"]
> >
> > A
> > B
> > C
> >
> > D
> > E
> > F [shape = rectangle]
> >
> >
> > subgraph cluster_resources {
> > color=blue
> > resources [label = "Resources"]
> > }
> >
> > G
> > H
> > I
> >
> > K
> > subgraph cluster_ta {
> > color=blue
> > {rank = same; L, M}
> > L
> > M
> > }
> >
> > {rank = same; D, E, F}
> >
> >
> > A -- F
> > B -- F
> > C -- F
> > A -- D
> >
> > F -- E
> >
> > F -- K
> > F -- G
> > F -- H
> > F -- I
> >
> >
> > K -- L
> > K -- M
> > L -- M
> > }
> > #+END_SRC
> >
> > This is a good deal in the right direction, but a few things should be
> > different:
> > - E should be left of F
> > - resource should go to the second 'line' without losing its border
> > - K should be a 'line' lower
> >
> > Are those things possible?
>
> As a last resort, you can edit the svg file.
>
It did cross my mind, but I am afraid it is not a real option (for me).
--
Cecil Westerhof
Re: [O] How to place things differently in dot
2015-03-26 17:57 GMT+01:00 Cecil Westerhof : > 2015-03-26 17:07 GMT+01:00 Ken Mankoff : > >> >> On 2015-03-26 at 11:52, e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: >> > The graphviz tools are fantastic for quick and dirty graphs but the >> > layout algorithms are not easily controlled... I would highly >> > recommend tikz ... >> >> Or perhaps ditaa. >> > > It is certainly quick. I wait if they find it acceptable: if not I can > always check-out tikz or ditaa. > I looked at ditaa and tikz. Especially ditta is very nice. It has document and database elements, but it would also a lot more work to create and especially to maintain. So I hope my dot version is acceptable. -- Cecil Westerhof
Re: [O] How to place things differently in dot
Cecil Westerhof writes:
> I was asked to make a diagram and was thinking that dot in org-mode could be
> a good idea.
>
> I got reasonably fast the following:
> This is a good deal in the right direction, but a few things should be
> different:
> - E should be left of F
> - resource should go to the second 'line' without losing its border
> - K should be a 'line' lower
>
Maybe this will help although it's not a complete implementation of
what you have. The idea is to define rows and arrange your nodes into
those rows by using rank=same. Then make the row nodes and edges
invisible. It's also important to do the sequencing correctly, e.g.
in your example, if you just switch F -- E to E -- F, E will be to the
left of F as you want. But I don't know how to get the resources
subgraph to be treated as a node and thereby place it on the same row as F.
In any case, here's the current trial balloon:
--8<---cut here---start->8---
#+BEGIN_SRC dot :file test2.svg :cmdline -Kdot -Tsvg
graph foo {
row1--row2--row3--row4 [style="invisible"];
row1, row2, row3, row4 [style="invisible"];
utilities [label = "Utilities"]
A
B
C
D
E
F [shape="rectangle"]
G
H
I
K
subgraph cluster_ta {
color=blue
{rank = same; L, M;}
L
M
}
{rank=same; row1 utilities A B C; }
{rank=same; row2 D E F;}
{rank=same; row3 G H I;}
{rank=same; row4 K;}
subgraph cluster_resources {
resources [label = "Resources"]
graph[color=red];
}
A -- F
B -- F
C -- F
A -- D
E -- F
F -- G
F -- H
F -- I
F -- K
K -- L
K -- M
L -- M
}
#+END_SRC
--8<---cut here---end--->8---
HTH,
Nick
Re: [O] How to place things differently in dot
2015-03-26 21:27 GMT+01:00 Nick Dokos :
> Cecil Westerhof writes:
>
> > I was asked to make a diagram and was thinking that dot in org-mode
> could be a good idea.
> >
> > I got reasonably fast the following:
> > > This is a good deal in the right direction, but a few things should be
> different:
> > - E should be left of F
> > - resource should go to the second 'line' without losing its border
> > - K should be a 'line' lower
> >
>
> Maybe this will help although it's not a complete implementation of
> what you have. The idea is to define rows and arrange your nodes into
> those rows by using rank=same. Then make the row nodes and edges
> invisible. It's also important to do the sequencing correctly, e.g.
> in your example, if you just switch F -- E to E -- F, E will be to the
> left of F as you want. But I don't know how to get the resources
> subgraph to be treated as a node and thereby place it on the same row as F.
>
> In any case, here's the current trial balloon:
>
> --8<---cut here---start->8---
> #+BEGIN_SRC dot :file test2.svg :cmdline -Kdot -Tsvg
> graph foo {
> row1--row2--row3--row4 [style="invisible"];
> row1, row2, row3, row4 [style="invisible"];
>
> utilities [label = "Utilities"]
> A
> B
> C
> D
> E
> F [shape="rectangle"]
> G
> H
> I
> K
> subgraph cluster_ta {
> color=blue
> {rank = same; L, M;}
> L
> M
> }
>
> {rank=same; row1 utilities A B C; }
> {rank=same; row2 D E F;}
> {rank=same; row3 G H I;}
> {rank=same; row4 K;}
>
> subgraph cluster_resources {
> resources [label = "Resources"]
> graph[color=red];
> }
>
> A -- F
> B -- F
> C -- F
> A -- D
> E -- F
> F -- G
> F -- H
> F -- I
> F -- K
> K -- L
> K -- M
> L -- M
> }
> #+END_SRC
>
> --8<---cut here---end--->8---
>
I did it a little differently:
#+BEGIN_SRC dot :file test.png :cmdline -Kdot -Tpng
graph {
utilities [label = "Utility's"]
A
B
C
D
E
F [shape = rectangle]
subgraph cluster_resources {
color=blue
resources [label = "Resources"]
}
G
G_ [style="invisible"]
H
I
K
subgraph cluster_ta {
color=blue
{rank = same; L, M}
L
M
}
{rank = same; D, E, F}
{rank = same; G_, K}
A -- F
B -- F
C -- F
A -- D
E -- F
F -- K
F -- G
F -- H
F -- I
G -- G_ [style="invisible"]
K -- L
K -- M
L -- M
}
#+END_SRC
In this way I do not get an empty column. It would be better when K would
put between and below H and I, but I think I can live with it.
--
Cecil Westerhof
Re: [O] How to place things differently in dot
Cecil Westerhof writes: > In this way I do not get an empty column. It would be better when K > would put between and below H and I, but I think I can live with it. > Just put I after K and the subgraph. Nick
Re: [O] How to place things differently in dot
Cecil Westerhof writes:
>
> In this way I do not get an empty column.
You can make the rows be of size 0:
--8<---cut here---start->8---
#+BEGIN_SRC dot :file test2.svg :cmdline -Kdot -Tsvg
graph foo {
row1--row2--row3--row4 [style="invis", fixedsize="true", width="0", height="0"];
row1, row2, row3, row4 [style="invis", fixedsize="true", width="0", height="0"];
...
--8<---cut here---end--->8---
Nick
Re: [O] How to place things differently in dot
2015-03-26 22:49 GMT+01:00 Nick Dokos :
> Cecil Westerhof writes:
>
> > In this way I do not get an empty column. It would be better when K
> > would put between and below H and I, but I think I can live with it.
> >
>
> Just put I after K and the subgraph.
>
That works. It is even better when I put both H and I after it.
I also found a way to get resources at the correct place.
It know becomes:
#+BEGIN_SRC dot :file test.png :cmdline -Kdot -Tpng
graph {
A
B
C
utilities [label = "Utility's"]
D
E
F [shape = rectangle]
subgraph cluster_resources {
color=blue
resources [label = "Resources"]
}
G
G_ [style="invisible"]
K
subgraph cluster_ta {
color=blue
{rank = same; L, M}
L
M
}
H
I
{rank = same; D, E, F}
{rank = same; G_, K}
A -- F
B -- F
C -- F
A -- D
utilities -- resources [style="invisible"]
E -- F
F -- K
F -- G
F -- H
F -- I
G -- G_ [style="invisible"]
K -- L
K -- M
L -- M
}
#+END_SRC
That looks very good indeed: I think I do not need to start working with
ditaa. :-)
Everyone thanks for the help.
--
Cecil Westerhof
Re: [O] How to place things differently in dot
2015-03-26 23:19 GMT+01:00 Cecil Westerhof :
> 2015-03-26 22:49 GMT+01:00 Nick Dokos :
>
>> Cecil Westerhof writes:
>>
>> > In this way I do not get an empty column. It would be better when K
>> > would put between and below H and I, but I think I can live with it.
>> >
>>
>> Just put I after K and the subgraph.
>>
>
> That works. It is even better when I put both H and I after it.
>
> I also found a way to get resources at the correct place.
>
I changed to a digraph:
#+BEGIN_SRC dot :file test.png :cmdline -Kdot -Tpng
digraph {
A
B
C
utilities [label = "Utility's"]
D
E
F [shape = rectangle]
subgraph cluster_resources {
color=blue
resources [label = "Resources"]
}
G
G_ [style="invisible"]
K
subgraph cluster_ta {
color=blue
{rank = same; L, M}
L
M
}
H
I
{rank = same; D, E, F}
{rank = same; G_, K}
A -> F
B -> F
C -> F
A -> D
utilities -> resources [style="invisible"]
E -> F
F -> K [dir = back]
F -> G [dir = back]
F -> H [dir = back]
F -> I [dir = back]
G -> G_ [style="invisible"]
K -> L
K -> M
L -> M
}
#+END_SRC
There is only one problem: I see the arrowhead with:
utilities -> resources
and:
'G -> G_'
Is there a way to get rid of those?
--
Cecil Westerhof
Re: [O] How to place things differently in dot
2015-03-27 7:57 GMT+01:00 Cecil Westerhof :
> 2015-03-26 23:19 GMT+01:00 Cecil Westerhof :
>
>> 2015-03-26 22:49 GMT+01:00 Nick Dokos :
>>
>>> Cecil Westerhof writes:
>>>
>>> > In this way I do not get an empty column. It would be better when K
>>> > would put between and below H and I, but I think I can live with it.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Just put I after K and the subgraph.
>>>
>>
>> That works. It is even better when I put both H and I after it.
>>
>> I also found a way to get resources at the correct place.
>>
>
> I changed to a digraph:
> #+BEGIN_SRC dot :file test.png :cmdline -Kdot -Tpng
> digraph {
> A
> B
> C
> utilities [label = "Utility's"]
>
> D
> E
> F [shape = rectangle]
>
>
> subgraph cluster_resources {
> color=blue
> resources [label = "Resources"]
> }
>
> G
> G_ [style="invisible"]
>
> K
> subgraph cluster_ta {
> color=blue
> {rank = same; L, M}
> L
> M
> }
> H
> I
>
> {rank = same; D, E, F}
> {rank = same; G_, K}
>
>
> A -> F
> B -> F
> C -> F
> A -> D
> utilities -> resources [style="invisible"]
>
> E -> F
>
> F -> K [dir = back]
> F -> G [dir = back]
> F -> H [dir = back]
> F -> I [dir = back]
>
> G -> G_ [style="invisible"]
>
> K -> L
> K -> M
> L -> M
> }
> #+END_SRC
>
> There is only one problem: I see the arrowhead with:
> utilities -> resources
> and:
> 'G -> G_'
>
> Is there a way to get rid of those?
>
I found that also:
[style="invisible", arrowhead = "none"]
--
Cecil Westerhof
