Re: [O] Status of MobileOrg on IOS??
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 10:28 PM, David Masterson dsmaster...@gmail.com wrote: John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 11:43 AM, David Masterson dsmaster...@gmail.com wrote: I've asked this before and I'll probably continue asking as I move in and out of using it, but... What's the development status of MobileOrg -- particularly on IOS? From what I see, it appears that development is stalled. My attempts at trying to use it show the following: * It seems to work even on my iPhone 6 as far as it goes But will it be going further? For instance, a Siri interface would be really nice (or a general such interface by which a Siri interface could be built). But this was my point in the previous email. I don't know how anyone on this list will know unless they develop for it. To my knowledge, they don't and thus you're better off asking the person who might know (vs. my estimate that those on this list don't). * It only seems to support basic viewing and minimal editting What would you expect/like? I can't (for instance) figure out how to add new items to my outlines (both new items and subitems). * The documentation is minimal with few use-case examples What topics would you like more information about, and can you provide a use-case you need assistance with? A walkthrough on: 1. Why you would want to push. 2. What exactly happens when you push. 3. How MobileOrg sees what has been pushed. 4. Sync issues that might occur in the push. 5. Why you would want to pull. 6. What exactly happens when you pull. 7. Sync issues that might occur in the pull. 8. Safety approaches for #4 and #7. Submit github issue/request? Give a detailed, but high-level, example to ground the above topics. Who is running MobileOrg and what's its status? - Who: http://mobileorg.ncogni.to/support/ - Status: http://mobileorg.ncogni.to/development/ and https://github.com/mobileorg/mobileorg Regarding all of the questions above, I'd contact the app developers, as it seems your inquiries relate to phone usage, not anything on the Org side. From looking at ~/org.git/list/org-mobile.el, Carsten wrote the tool from the Org-mode side. But again, all of your questions about inquiries or wishes about the app, which I don't think we can help with. From skimming the mobileorg github site, it doesn't look like anyone's really running it. Their most recent push appears to have been a year ago. And that makes it hard to contact the app developers. I'm not (yet) doing detailed work on it, so I don't want to push them until I have something strong to say. I post my general questions here on the assumption that this is the most likely central point that one (or more) people using/developing MobileOrg would see and maybe interest would perk up. Right, but that's the nature of open source/free software. Someone awesome develops some tool X when they have the time/inclination. That's awesome, until they perhaps don't have the time/inclination anymore. If any of your questions re. usability/procedures are answerable, I can definitely see this mailing list as a good avenue to reach them. In terms of future features or development status, you're at the mercy of the person who's good will is/was used to provide the tool. In any case, my primary point is that the developer(s) list their email addresses right on the various MobileOrg sites... so I don't see why you wouldn't start there for anything related to development. Good luck, John -- David Masterson Programmer At Large
Re: [O] Status of MobileOrg on IOS??
John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com: On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 11:43 AM, David Masterson dsmaster...@gmail.com wrote: I've asked this before and I'll probably continue asking as I move in and out of using it, but... What's the development status of MobileOrg -- particularly on IOS? From what I see, it appears that development is stalled. My attempts at trying to use it show the following: * It seems to work even on my iPhone 6 as far as it goes * It only seems to support basic viewing and minimal editting What would you expect/like? I'm not David, and I use android and not IOS, but I would like to see habit tracking implemented, including habit tracking with comments. It would also be nice to have tables, especially with all of the features in emacs org.
Re: [O] Status of MobileOrg on IOS??
John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 11:43 AM, David Masterson dsmaster...@gmail.com wrote: I've asked this before and I'll probably continue asking as I move in and out of using it, but... What's the development status of MobileOrg -- particularly on IOS? From what I see, it appears that development is stalled. My attempts at trying to use it show the following: * It seems to work even on my iPhone 6 as far as it goes But will it be going further? For instance, a Siri interface would be really nice (or a general such interface by which a Siri interface could be built). * It only seems to support basic viewing and minimal editting What would you expect/like? I can't (for instance) figure out how to add new items to my outlines (both new items and subitems). * The documentation is minimal with few use-case examples What topics would you like more information about, and can you provide a use-case you need assistance with? A walkthrough on: 1. Why you would want to push. 2. What exactly happens when you push. 3. How MobileOrg sees what has been pushed. 4. Sync issues that might occur in the push. 5. Why you would want to pull. 6. What exactly happens when you pull. 7. Sync issues that might occur in the pull. 8. Safety approaches for #4 and #7. Give a detailed, but high-level, example to ground the above topics. Who is running MobileOrg and what's its status? - Who: http://mobileorg.ncogni.to/support/ - Status: http://mobileorg.ncogni.to/development/ and https://github.com/mobileorg/mobileorg Regarding all of the questions above, I'd contact the app developers, as it seems your inquiries relate to phone usage, not anything on the Org side. From looking at ~/org.git/list/org-mobile.el, Carsten wrote the tool from the Org-mode side. But again, all of your questions about inquiries or wishes about the app, which I don't think we can help with. From skimming the mobileorg github site, it doesn't look like anyone's really running it. Their most recent push appears to have been a year ago. And that makes it hard to contact the app developers. I'm not (yet) doing detailed work on it, so I don't want to push them until I have something strong to say. I post my general questions here on the assumption that this is the most likely central point that one (or more) people using/developing MobileOrg would see and maybe interest would perk up. -- David Masterson Programmer At Large
Re: [O] Status of MobileOrg on IOS??
Guido Van Hoecke gui...@gmail.com writes: Hi, On 12 May 2015 at 18:43, David Masterson dsmaster...@gmail.com wrote: I've asked this before and I'll probably continue asking as I move in and out of using it, but... What's the development status of MobileOrg -- particularly on IOS? From what I see, it appears that development is stalled. My attempts at trying to use it show the following: * It seems to work even on my iPhone 6 as far as it goes * It only seems to support basic viewing and minimal editting * The documentation is minimal with few use-case examples * The newsgroups suggest MobileOrg for IOS and Android have diverged * Not too sure how to use it with DropBox Who is running MobileOrg and what's its status? I am using it on an iPhone 5, but basically as a one-way operation. I use the smartphone for reading only, albeit I do some note taking via the capture feature. I'm still trying to work my head around the capture feature in MobileOrg. Care to explain how you use it (with some detail)? No need to go into Elisp -- just the step-by-step process (to some degree). -- David Masterson Programmer At Large
Re: [O] Status of MobileOrg on IOS??
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 11:43 AM, David Masterson dsmaster...@gmail.com wrote: I've asked this before and I'll probably continue asking as I move in and out of using it, but... What's the development status of MobileOrg -- particularly on IOS? From what I see, it appears that development is stalled. My attempts at trying to use it show the following: * It seems to work even on my iPhone 6 as far as it goes * It only seems to support basic viewing and minimal editting What would you expect/like? * The documentation is minimal with few use-case examples What topics would you like more information about, and can you provide a use-case you need assistance with? * The newsgroups suggest MobileOrg for IOS and Android have diverged This is old news, and has indeed come up many times here. Google mobileorg and mobileorg android. Separate web sites, the appending of android after MobileOrg, and separate developer lists for the two projects is a very good indicator that the two are different. That said, matburt shows up on both sites, so perhaps he was originally iPhone and then started his own thing? Not sure if he pulls from iPhone development. * Not too sure how to use it with DropBox This would require a specific question or details to assist with. Who is running MobileOrg and what's its status? - Who: http://mobileorg.ncogni.to/support/ - Status: http://mobileorg.ncogni.to/development/ and https://github.com/mobileorg/mobileorg Regarding all of the questions above, I'd contact the app developers, as it seems your inquiries relate to phone usage, not anything on the Org side. From looking at ~/org.git/list/org-mobile.el, Carsten wrote the tool from the Org-mode side. But again, all of your questions about inquiries or wishes about the app, which I don't think we can help with. From skimming the mobileorg github site, it doesn't look like anyone's really running it. Their most recent push appears to have been a year ago. John -- David Masterson Programmer At Large
[O] Status of MobileOrg on IOS??
I've asked this before and I'll probably continue asking as I move in and out of using it, but... What's the development status of MobileOrg -- particularly on IOS? From what I see, it appears that development is stalled. My attempts at trying to use it show the following: * It seems to work even on my iPhone 6 as far as it goes * It only seems to support basic viewing and minimal editting * The documentation is minimal with few use-case examples * The newsgroups suggest MobileOrg for IOS and Android have diverged * Not too sure how to use it with DropBox Who is running MobileOrg and what's its status? -- David Masterson Programmer At Large
Re: [O] Status of MobileOrg on IOS??
Hi, On 12 May 2015 at 18:43, David Masterson dsmaster...@gmail.com wrote: I've asked this before and I'll probably continue asking as I move in and out of using it, but... What's the development status of MobileOrg -- particularly on IOS? From what I see, it appears that development is stalled. My attempts at trying to use it show the following: * It seems to work even on my iPhone 6 as far as it goes * It only seems to support basic viewing and minimal editting * The documentation is minimal with few use-case examples * The newsgroups suggest MobileOrg for IOS and Android have diverged * Not too sure how to use it with DropBox Who is running MobileOrg and what's its status? I am using it on an iPhone 5, but basically as a one-way operation. I use the smartphone for reading only, albeit I do some note taking via the capture feature. Guido -- David Masterson Programmer At Large
Re: [O] Status of MobileOrg for iOS?
Xavier Maillard xav...@maillard.im writes: David Masterson dsmaster...@gmail.com writes: What is the status of MobileOrg for iOS? It seems stalled but, AFAIK, it is free software and higly hackable if you have the knowledge and time ^^ As I did not have either resource, I decided to stop using MobileOrg ;) After all, I did not use it much and I had problems with the UX. It does seem somewhat stalled, but it does seem to work once you get it set up. I hope I can find time to work on it in the future. It could use the following: 1. Further details in the documentation. 2. A better description of what MobileOrg can and cannot do. 3. Simpler data entry/update methods (perhaps Siri?). 4. Exchange between iPhone outliners and MobileOrg. Overall, for managing your life, I see very little better than Org especially if you are used to working with Emacs. And Org is free and always improving (as is obvious from this newsgroup). The one issue that has been holding me back was accessing and updating my tasks and overall life outlines from my iPhone which is always with me. MobileOrg begins to address that, but I have a lot to learn on using both. -- David Masterson Programmer At Large
Re: [O] Status of MobileOrg for iOS?
David Masterson dsmaster...@gmail.com writes: What is the status of MobileOrg for iOS? It seems stalled but, AFAIK, it is free software and higly hackable if you have the knowledge and time ^^ As I did not have either resource, I decided to stop using MobileOrg ;) After all, I did not use it much and I had problems with the UX. Regards -- Xavier.
Re: [O] Status of MobileOrg for iOS?
Hi David, David Masterson dsmaster...@gmail.com writes: Xavier Maillard xav...@maillard.im writes: David Masterson dsmaster...@gmail.com writes: What is the status of MobileOrg for iOS? It seems stalled but, AFAIK, it is free software and higly hackable if you have the knowledge and time ^^ It does seem somewhat stalled, but it does seem to work once you get it set up. I hope I can find time to work on it in the future. It could use the following: 3. Simpler data entry/update methods (perhaps Siri?). Oh YEAH ! :D Overall, for managing your life, I see very little better than Org especially if you are used to working with Emacs. I can't agree more with that ! I wish I had an EmacsOS smartphone ^^. The one issue that has been holding me back was accessing and updating my tasks and overall life outlines from my iPhone which is always with me. MobileOrg begins to address that, but I have a lot to learn on using both. I hardly edit my lists directly onto my smartphone. I find it quite complicated and error prone but my main UX problem is with tha ability to export an encrypted version of my orgfiles. I do not want them to be stored as clear text on something like Dropbox. Until I can GPG encrypt them and make mobileorg using it that way, I won't use it again ^^ (That means MobileOrg can deal with GPG encrypted files too.). Regards -- Xavier.
[O] Status of MobileOrg for iOS?
I had MobileOrg setup and *mostly* working, but I went away for awhile and seem to be not how to get it to work now. My main problem seems to be that everytime I start to use MobileOrg, it captures a new item whether I want it to or not. I have it configured to use Dropbox and it appears to work with my Emacs via org-mobile-push and org-mobile-pull. MobileOrg itself, though, constantly captures new items and adds empty items to the capture list. A push/pull doesn't seem to change that. I guess I'm missing something. What is the status of MobileOrg for iOS? -- David Masterson Programmer At Large
Re: [O] Status of MobileOrg for iOS?
Is AutoCapture enabled in settings? Turn it off. -k. Please excuse brevity. Sent from pocket computer with tiny non-haptic feedback keyboard. On Mar 4, 2015, at 22:11, David Masterson dsmaster...@gmail.com wrote: I had MobileOrg setup and *mostly* working, but I went away for awhile and seem to be not how to get it to work now. My main problem seems to be that everytime I start to use MobileOrg, it captures a new item whether I want it to or not. I have it configured to use Dropbox and it appears to work with my Emacs via org-mobile-push and org-mobile-pull. MobileOrg itself, though, constantly captures new items and adds empty items to the capture list. A push/pull doesn't seem to change that. I guess I'm missing something. What is the status of MobileOrg for iOS? -- David Masterson Programmer At Large
