Re: [O] sharing my firsts, org babel tangle and init .org file
Pete Ley peteley11235 at gmail.com writes: I've looked at the solution on worg and, though I didn't actually try to implement, it seems like tangling your init file every time you open Emacs is a little cumbersome. Please correct me if I'm wrong in this assumption. OK, here goes: In `org-babel-load-file' the code following the comment ;; tangle if the org-mode file is newer than the elisp file appears to only re-tangle the .el file iff it is older than the .org file HTH, Chuck
Re: [O] sharing my firsts, org babel tangle and init .org file
Bastien b...@gnu.org writes: Brady Trainor algeb...@uw.edu writes: Have you migrated your init files into .org file(s)? What's your setup? I do, and find it very convenient. My setup is here: http://bzg.fr/emacs.html My setup is available here. https://github.com/eschulte/emacs24-starter-kit It is designed to be a good starting point for personalized configs. Also, as Chuck mentioned, tangling does *not* take place every time Emacs starts, only when the .org file is newer than the .el file. Best, -- Eric Schulte https://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte PGP: 0x614CA05D
Re: [O] sharing my firsts, org babel tangle and init .org file
Brady Trainor algeb...@uw.edu writes: Have you migrated your init files into .org file(s)? What's your setup? I do, and find it very convenient. My setup is here: http://bzg.fr/emacs.html -- Bastien
Re: [O] sharing my firsts, org babel tangle and init .org file
I've looked at the solution on worg and, though I didn't actually try to implement, it seems like tangling your init file every time you open Emacs is a little cumbersome. Please correct me if I'm wrong in this assumption. I also have a sync script hooked into my tangling that has to do with exporting some of my config sections to my gopher site so they're always up to date, so maybe it's just that my tangling experience is especially involved. Here's what I do. Since I probably only edit my config ~10% of the times that I open Emacs, it seems easier to just have a statically-tangled init file, so I just basically use C-c C-v C-t instead of C-x C-s to save my init.org. I also use somewhat customized init files on a few different hosts which share the same .emacs.d. They share come common functionality and differ slightly, so there are a few init files tangled into ~/.emacs.d of the form hostname.el and the init.el file is basically a switch which chooses which one to load on startup. Short reference: http://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw?gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/framling/emacs/init
Re: [O] sharing my firsts, org babel tangle and init .org file
Good thing to consider. On my slow machine it takes 6 minutes to tangle my init and on my faster machine 1.5 minutes so I follow the static approach. Grant Rettke | AAAS, ACM, FSF, IEEE, Sigma Xi gret...@acm.org | http://www.wisdomandwonder.com/ “Wisdom begins in wonder.” --Socrates ((λ (x) (x x)) (λ (x) (x x))) “Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously.” --Thompson On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Pete Ley peteley11...@gmail.com wrote: I've looked at the solution on worg and, though I didn't actually try to implement, it seems like tangling your init file every time you open Emacs is a little cumbersome. Please correct me if I'm wrong in this assumption. I also have a sync script hooked into my tangling that has to do with exporting some of my config sections to my gopher site so they're always up to date, so maybe it's just that my tangling experience is especially involved. Here's what I do. Since I probably only edit my config ~10% of the times that I open Emacs, it seems easier to just have a statically-tangled init file, so I just basically use C-c C-v C-t instead of C-x C-s to save my init.org. I also use somewhat customized init files on a few different hosts which share the same .emacs.d. They share come common functionality and differ slightly, so there are a few init files tangled into ~/.emacs.d of the form hostname.el and the init.el file is basically a switch which chooses which one to load on startup. Short reference: http://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw?gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/framling/emacs/init
[O] sharing my firsts, org babel tangle and init .org file
Have you migrated your init files into .org file(s)? What's your setup? Below is my first setup for fellow newbs, or for the interested developer. And please let me know if I'm missing some logic or conventions/practices. In the short history of my Emacs init file evolution (~ oct '13), I had considered packages like dot-emacs.org, but for some reason had not succeeded (I thought it had demanded Emacs 24.3.50+, but I don't see that in the description now). So when I recently felt motivated to try such a .org Literation of my init files (my project of making agenda custom commands and capture templates was starting to topple), I tried let's say a more basic approach. I worked mostly from the tutorial in Babel: Introduction / Emacs Initialization with Babel http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/intro.html#emacs-initialization It took just a little wrestling with a clean tty2 Emacs, but here is my interpretation of a minimal setup for initializing via org babel tangling: / make sure org has been installed in an emacs -q (require 'package) (package-initialize) (require 'org) ;; declare org indentation before we might manually open org to tangle (setq org-startup-indented t) (setq org-hide-block-startup t) ;; declare source indentation before we might manually open org to tangle (setq org-src-fontify-natively t) (setq org-edit-src-content-indentation 0) ;; default I/O in windows is undecided-dos/unix for de/encoding respectively (prefer-coding-system 'utf-8-unix) ;; load org initialization files (require 'ob-tangle) (org-babel-load-file /e/emacs-config/dot-emacs-test.org) \ Some of those aren't necessary but for aesthetics before manually stepping through lines for testing the initialization (starting emacs -q tangling and/or executing one-by-one). The character encoding is there as I have some utf-8 Fahrenheit symbols in my (.org) init file. Initially (while troubleshooting) I had some dired customizations (vertical omit, horizontal hide), font family and color-theming in this code block, as I have a hard time looking at plain Emacs for too long. You may also want to toggle some tangles in your (first ever) init file, this can be done per file, subtree or source block, via #+PROPERTY: header-args :tangle yes or :PROPERTIES: :header-args: :tangle no :END: or #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp :tangle no And the latter take precendence. TWIMC, HTH Brady
