Re: [babel] Re: [Orgmode] Re: [OT] gnuplot quality

2010-06-16 Thread Alan E. Davis
Hello Eric:

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Eric S Fraga ucec...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:

 I am surprised, however, at this comment:

 Gnuplot was ok when I didn't need quailty graphs.

 in what way does gnuplot fall short in terms of quality?  (but keep
 this part of the conversatino off-list please to avoid annoying others)

I don't have a great deal to say about this, so I will keep my remarks
on the list.

I needed/wanted a tool to produce publication quality graphs.  Gnuplot
is great, and I have used it in the past, to make tide graphs.  In my
experience, controls of the details of the graph were less accessible
to me, and the graphs I produced were pretty rough edged.  GRI has
worked very well for me for monthly tide graph calendars, with good
control of parameters.  GNUPLOT is fantastic for quick, and what I
felt were rough and ready plots.

GRI is easily installed on Ubuntu installs, and a gri mode for emacs
makes it easier.

I will try the suggestions you made to work out a babel solution for gri plots.

Thanks for the suggestions,

Alan

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[babel] Re: [Orgmode] Re: [OT] gnuplot quality

2010-06-15 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 12:35:43 +1000, Alan E. Davis lngn...@gmail.com wrote:

 I use the gri plotting language to make plots.  Does anyone here use this?
 
 I am over my head in trying to use babel as a literate programming tool; yet
 that's exactly what I need to do, else at least have a method for
 coordinating better comments / notes with the code.

Alan,

I don't use gri.  I have had a quick look at it and it should be
possible (for others, not me :() to create an org-babel interface for
this.  If you have any elisp knowledge, you could try starting from
one of the existing language implementations.  You could also try to
use the support for sh in org-babel but you'd have to get the table
data into a file first.  Others may have more reasonable suggestions,
however...

I am surprised, however, at this comment:

 Gnuplot was ok when I didn't need quailty graphs.

in what way does gnuplot fall short in terms of quality?  (but keep
this part of the conversatino off-list please to avoid annoying others)
-- 
Eric S Fraga
GnuPG: 8F5C 279D 3907 E14A 5C29  570D C891 93D8 FFFC F67D
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Re: [babel] Re: [Orgmode] Re: [OT] gnuplot quality

2010-06-15 Thread Eric Schulte
Eric S Fraga ucec...@ucl.ac.uk writes:

 On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 12:35:43 +1000, Alan E. Davis lngn...@gmail.com wrote:

 I use the gri plotting language to make plots.  Does anyone here use this?
 
 I am over my head in trying to use babel as a literate programming tool; yet
 that's exactly what I need to do, else at least have a method for
 coordinating better comments / notes with the code.

 Alan,

 I don't use gri.  I have had a quick look at it and it should be
 possible (for others, not me :() to create an org-babel interface for
 this.  If you have any elisp knowledge, you could try starting from
 one of the existing language implementations.  You could also try to
 use the support for sh in org-babel but you'd have to get the table
 data into a file first.

If this is something you're interested in, you could start by making a
copy of org-babel-gnuplot.el, and then search/replace gnuplot/gri, and
you'll be most of the way there.

The gnuplot file already has support for dropping tables to
tab-separated files, and then placing the paths to those files into the
body of code blocks, which may be sufficient for table support in gri --
although having not heard of gri before this email I can't say for sure.

Best -- Eric

 Others may have more reasonable suggestions, however...

 I am surprised, however, at this comment:

 Gnuplot was ok when I didn't need quailty graphs.

 in what way does gnuplot fall short in terms of quality?  (but keep
 this part of the conversatino off-list please to avoid annoying others)

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