Re: Carbon: Unicode keyboard layouts does not work properly

2007-02-19 Thread David Reitter

On 19 Feb 2007, at 01:24, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu wrote:

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:09:42 +, David Reitter  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:



The symptom I am experiencing is that trying to invoke the emacs
command of `insert-parentheses´ I want to press Meta+Shift+8. When
using the danish latin keyboard layout, I get what I want
(ie. M-() but with a unicode keyboard layout, emacs claims I am
pressing M-* as it would have been on an american keyboard.


Thanks for the report.  I could reproduce it.

Actually, I'm not sure why the current code does not work.  But the
Keyboard Layout Services API, which is available on Mac OS X 10.2 and
later, seems to solve the problem.  Could you try the following patch?



I've installed the patch in the Aquamacs CVS - Christian, please try  
it out and report back, it should be available in tomorrow's nightly  
build.






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auto-insert help-buffer

2007-02-19 Thread Andreas Roehler

emacs -q

M-x auto-insert

Prompt for keyword

C-h

opens a help-buffer with descriptions, but without the
corresponding keywords visible.

This buffer vanishes, when clicked by mouse.

=

scroll-bar-toolkit-scroll: Wrong type argument: window-live-p, #window 7

Clicking the scroll-bar once also produced a segmentation fault.
(error-message was in German: Speicherzugriffsfehler)

So far

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Suse 10.0

In GNU Emacs 22.0.93.4 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
of 2007-02-18 on kiste
X server distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.60802000
Important settings:
 value of $LC_ALL: nil
 value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
 value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
 value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
 value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
 value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
 value of $LC_TIME: nil
 value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8
 locale-coding-system: utf-8
 default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Emacs-Lisp

Minor modes in effect:
 tooltip-mode: t
 tool-bar-mode: t
 mouse-wheel-mode: t
 menu-bar-mode: t
 file-name-shadow-mode: t
 global-font-lock-mode: t
 font-lock-mode: t
 blink-cursor-mode: t
 unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t
 utf-translate-cjk-mode: t
 auto-compression-mode: t
 line-number-mode: t

Recent input:
- i n s e r t return a s d M-x up return return
up M-x up return C-x C-w e i l . e l return
y M-x up return return C-h help-echo mouse-1
mouse-1 mouse-1 mouse-1 mouse-1 mouse-1 mouse-1
mouse-1 mouse-1 mouse-1 mouse-1 M-x r e p o
r t - e m a c s - b u g return backspace backspace
backspace backspace backspace backspace backspace
C-g M-x C-g up up up up up M-x up return
return C-h help-echo down-mouse-1 drag-mouse-1
C-g M-x r e p o r t - e m tab return

Recent messages:
Loading help-mode...done
scroll-bar-toolkit-scroll: Wrong type argument: window-live-p, #window 7
call-interactively: Command attempted to use minibuffer while in minibuffer
Quit [2 times]
mouse-drag-region: Wrong type argument: window-live-p, #window 9
mouse-minibuffer-check: Wrong type argument: window-live-p, #window 9
Quit
Loading emacsbug...
Loading regexp-opt...done
Loading emacsbug...done



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C-u beginning/end-of-buffer.

2007-02-19 Thread Matt Hodges
In GNU Emacs 22.0.93.6 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.8.20)
 of 2007-02-19 on escpc40
X server distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.70101000
configured using `configure  '--with-gtk''

Both C-u M- and C-u M- have forward-line calls that check for arg
but not (consp arg).  Therefore, C-u M- leaves point not at the
beginning of the buffer, but from the docstring C-u is only supposed
to affect whether the mark is set at the previous position.

Thanks,

Matt


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Re: please use ?\u2014 instead of the unicode character inbuff-menu.el

2007-02-19 Thread Chris Moore
Drew Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 And replacing two em-dash characters with \u2014 is hardly making 
 extraordinary efforts.

I think if you're going to fix two of them you may as well go the
extra mile and replace all three of them to prevent us having to have
this argument at a later point about the remaining em-dash character.


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Re: vertical scrollbar error on MS Windows

2007-02-19 Thread Kim F. Storm

 As far as I remember scrolling was always problematic (in the same
 way?) in W32 Emacses, so this is not a new bug?

I just installed some changes to _improve_ on those scroll-bar issues.

Can you -- and other W32 users -- please try out the latest CVS
and tell me ASAP if there are still _severe_ problems with it.

At least it seems to work a lot better than before, but we need
as much testing as possible BEFORE to the release (which *is*
very close now!!).

So, also tell me if you tested it, and didn't find any problems!

Thanks.

-- 
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Re: vertical scrollbar error on MS Windows

2007-02-19 Thread Juanma Barranquero

On 2/19/07, Kim F. Storm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Can you -- and other W32 users -- please try out the latest CVS
and tell me ASAP if there are still _severe_ problems with it.


Hard to say what is a severe problem. With the sample file (scroll.txt):

- Make the frame's height 30 lines.
- Visit scroll.txt
- Move point to eob.
- Scroll up to bob.
- Release the mouse button.
- Scroll down.

I can't get past line 46.

Juanma


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Re: vertical scrollbar error on MS Windows

2007-02-19 Thread Lennart Borgman (gmail)

Kim F. Storm wrote:

As far as I remember scrolling was always problematic (in the same
way?) in W32 Emacses, so this is not a new bug?


I just installed some changes to _improve_ on those scroll-bar issues.

Can you -- and other W32 users -- please try out the latest CVS
and tell me ASAP if there are still _severe_ problems with it.

At least it seems to work a lot better than before, but we need
as much testing as possible BEFORE to the release (which *is*
very close now!!).

So, also tell me if you tested it, and didn't find any problems!

Thanks.



I have uploaded a new unpatched version Emacs+EmacsW32 for those who 
want to test:


 http://ourcomments.org/cgi-bin/emacsw32-dl-latest.pl


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Re: please use ?\u2014 instead of the unicode character inbuff-menu.el

2007-02-19 Thread Richard Stallman
Yes, I know you're arguing that buff-menu.el contains just one
non-ASCII char and it would be friendlier to use an escape (It's me
who added the comment line just above the one which is causing you so
much grief.) Perhaps you're right. But you said yourself your fix
wouldn't work for packages with lots of Unicode chars. Where do you
intend to put the line? At ten chars? A thousand?

Who cares?  This sort of argument is no reason not to install a simple
change that will avoid problems.


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Re: please use ?\u2014 instead of the unicode character inbuff-menu.el

2007-02-19 Thread Juanma Barranquero

On 2/19/07, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Who cares?  This sort of argument is no reason not to install a simple
change that will avoid problems.


Nor was I implying that.

Juanma


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Re: please use ?\u2014 instead of the unicode character inbuff-menu.el

2007-02-19 Thread Lennart Borgman (gmail)

Eli Zaretskii wrote:

Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:48:29 +0100
From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC:  [EMAIL PROTECTED],  emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org

Eli Zaretskii wrote:

Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:32:01 +0100
From: Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED],  emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org

I wonder if this has something to do with the mime codes? I do not know 
anything about it, but could it be that the web server changes something 
in the output?

I think the problem is simply that IE, like Emacs, needs to be told
the encoding explicitly, when its defaults are wrong.  There's no
magic wand here.
Maybe, I just do not understand why IE6 just does not save the 
bytestream it recieves.


For the same reason Emacs doesn't do that with non-ASCII text: it
doesn't treat it as a byte stream, it treats it as an encoded text.



Yes, and I guess they do that for a reason, see below. If I understand 
things correctly here this thread was mostly about downloading an elisp 
file.


It looks to me like if you are trying to save what the web browser shows 
then it will save something it can show again, not the original 
downloaded file. When the web browser downloads the file it usually has 
some extra information from the mime headers. That information helps it 
display the file. My guess is that when the web browser saves the file 
that is displayed it tries to merge that information with the downloaded 
file. Therefore the file changed in this way is different from the 
downloaded file.


So instead of saving what is viewed in the browser the user need to 
download the file directly to his disk. There use to be something like 
right click and choose Save Link As or something similar in the web 
browsers for this.


Would it suffice to tell the users how to download the files?


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unclear doc for existence of mark

2007-02-19 Thread Drew Adams
emacs -Q
C-h i, choose Elisp manual, g Mark

This text is not clear:

 Each buffer has its own value of the mark that is independent of the
 value of the mark in other buffers.  When a buffer is created, the mark
 exists but does not point anywhere.  We consider this state as the
 absence of a mark in that buffer.

 Once the mark exists in a buffer, it normally never ceases to exist.

The notion of mark existence is unclear here. In a virgin buffer, it
says, the mark exists.  Yet, in this state the mark is absent.  So,
the last sentence presumably wants to talk about lack of absence
(i.e. presence), rather than existence.  Otherwise, it contradicts the
first statement that the mark exists from the beginning, as well as
its own statement that the mark never ceases to exist (if it has
always existed and it always will exist, then once the mark 'exists'
says nothing useful.

The first statement, that the mark exists from the beginning but
points nowhere, could be kept as the consistent point of view
throughout, but that is not currently the case.  In that case, instead
of absence and then, later, existence (presence), we would speak
of the mark pointing nowhere and then pointing somewhere.

Alternatively, the starting point of the explanation could be changed,
to say that in the beginning the mark does not exist. The rest would
follow more or less as is, with non-existence/existence replacing
absence/presence (no need for two terms, which increases confusion).

Either of these approaches would be consistent; the current text is
not consistent, and is confusing.

My own preference is the second alternative: Don't say that the mark
exists from the beginning. We might want to introduce the function
`mark' here, saying that when (mark t) returns nil it means that the
mark does not yet exist - that is, it indicates that virgin state.

Also, quotation marks should not be used in this text, in any case -
they add nothing but more confusion. New terms that are defined can be
put in a different font (e.g. bold), but should not be between
quotation marks. I don't know what the Emacs doc convention is on
this. In any case, even if the Emacs doc convention were to quote the
defining occurrence of a new term, the sections quoted here should not
be quoted. In that case, only absence would be quoted. Certainly,
exists should not be quoted in the last sentence cited.


In GNU Emacs 22.0.93.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
 of 2007-01-25 on LENNART-69DE564
X server distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4) --cflags -Ic:/g/include'

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: ENU
  locale-coding-system: cp1252
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Dired by name

Minor modes in effect:
  encoded-kbd-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t
  utf-translate-cjk-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t

Recent input:
help-echo help-echo help-echo help-echo help-echo
help-echo help-echo menu-bar help-menu re
port-emacs-bug

Recent messages:
(C:\Emacs-22-2007-01-25\bin\emacs.exe -q --no-site-file --debug-init
C:\drews-lisp-20)
Loading encoded-kb...done
For information about the GNU Project and its goals, type C-h C-p.
Loading dired...
Loading regexp-opt...done
Loading dired...done
For information about the GNU Project and its goals, type C-h C-p.
Loading emacsbug...done



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Re: vertical scrollbar error on MS Windows

2007-02-19 Thread Stephan Hennig
Kim F. Storm schrieb:

 As far as I remember scrolling was always problematic (in the same
 way?) in W32 Emacses, so this is not a new bug?

 I just installed some changes to _improve_ on those scroll-bar issues.

Glad to hear about that!


 So, also tell me if you tested it, and didn't find any problems!

Unfortunately, I have only a dial-up connection and can't give immediate
feedback on new Emacs versions.

Thanks again for looking into this!

Best regards,
Stephan Hennig



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Re: vertical scrollbar error on MS Windows

2007-02-19 Thread Nick Roberts
   So, also tell me if you tested it, and didn't find any problems!
  
  Unfortunately, I have only a dial-up connection and can't give immediate
  feedback on new Emacs versions.

One advantage of using CVS over tarballs is that you only need to download the
(compressed) _changes_.  Even with a dial-up connection that shouldn't take a
long time.

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Re: please use ?\u2014 instead of the unicode character inbuff-menu.el

2007-02-19 Thread Jason Rumney


I wonder if this has something to do with the mime codes? I do not 
know anything about it, but could it be that the web server changes 
something in the output?


Web  servers don't change anything (at least, no web server I've ever 
seen does, and I've worked with most of them).


I don't know what happened in Drew's case, but I don't think this a real 
life problem that is worth making the code less readable over.




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Re: please use ?\u2014 instead of the unicode character inbuff-menu.el

2007-02-19 Thread Lennart Borgman (gmail)

Jason Rumney wrote:


I wonder if this has something to do with the mime codes? I do not 
know anything about it, but could it be that the web server changes 
something in the output?


Web  servers don't change anything (at least, no web server I've ever 
seen does, and I've worked with most of them).



Thanks, that makes things more clear to me. Then the things that differ 
is the mime headers sent and the interpretation of those. I think that 
is where the problem arise as I said in a later message.



I don't know what happened in Drew's case, but I don't think this a real 
life problem that is worth making the code less readable over.



I agree. There are more simple solutions.


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Re: c-mode imenu: Stack overflow in regexp matcher

2007-02-19 Thread Glenn Morris
Stefan Monnier wrote:

 Yes, I saw that, but it's still not clear to me what's going on
 here. E.g. the match any non-identifier char can match a
 parenthesis, is that correct?

 I guess a quick fix is to replace [^()] by [^()\n].

Ping, anyone in CC land?

The problematic [^()]* part was installed 12-Dec-99, before which it
was just ^\\.*. If it really needs to match across newlines, maybe
it could match up to some finite number.


1999-12-12  Martin Stjernholm  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* cc-menus.el (cc-imenu-c++-generic-expression): Match classes with
nonhanging open braces. Don't match the throws clause that might
follow the function prototype in C++.



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Re: c-mode imenu: Stack overflow in regexp matcher

2007-02-19 Thread Nick Roberts
G   I guess a quick fix is to replace [^()] by [^()\n].
  
  Ping, anyone in CC land?

Don't know about CC land, but I'd say there are a few in la-la land.

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RE: please use ?\u2014 instead of the unicode character inbuff-menu.el

2007-02-19 Thread Drew Adams
  I don't think this a real life problem that is worth making
  the code less readable over.

 I agree. There are more simple solutions.


Please explain why 1) is more readable than 2):

1) ;; Use U+2014 (EM DASH) to underline if possible, else U+002D
(HYPHEN-MINUS)
   (if (char-displayable-p ?-) ?- ?-)))

2) (if (char-displayable-p ?\u2014) ?\u2014 ?-)))




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use-file-dialog and use-dialog-box on w32

2007-02-19 Thread Edward Casey

Please write in English if possible, because the Emacs maintainers
usually do not have translators to read other languages for them.

Your bug report will be posted to the emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org mailing
list.

Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug
and the precise symptoms of the bug:

***
I have been downloading the emacs version 22.** + auctex binaries since
22.0.50 and in none of them has the file dialog worked when clicking on
the options under File on the menu bar. C-h v use-file-dialog and
use-dialog-box reveals that both are set to t

System is msw 98.
***

In GNU Emacs 22.0.93.1 (i386-mingw-windows98.)
 of 2007-01-26 on NEUTRINO
X server distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 4.10.
configured using `configure --with-gcc
(3.4) --cflags -Ic:/Programme/GnuWin32/include'

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: enu
  locale-coding-system: cp1252
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Help

Minor modes in effect:
  encoded-kbd-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t
  utf-translate-cjk-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  view-mode: t

Recent input:
down-mouse-1 help-echo mouse-movement mouse-movement
drag-mouse-1 help-echo help-echo help-echo
M-w help-echo help-echo help-echo help-echo
help-echo help-echo help-echo help-echo help-echo
help-echo help-echo help-echo menu-bar file
kill-buffer help-echo help-echo help-echo help-echo
help-echo help-echo help-echo help-echo help-echo
help-echo help-echo help-echo help-echo help-echo
help-echo help-echo menu-bar help-menu report-emacs-bug
help-echo help-echo C-g C-h v f i l e tab tab
help-echo backspace backspace backspace backspace
backspace u s e tab tab down-mouse-2 mouse-2
help-echo help-echo help-echo help-echo down-mouse-1
mouse-movement mouse-movement drag-mouse-1 M-w
help-echo help-echo help-echo help-echo help-echo
help-echo help-echo help-echo help-echo help-echo
help-echo help-echo help-echo help-echo help-echo
help-echo help-echo help-echo help-echo help-echo
help-echo menu-bar help-menu report-emacs-b
ug

Recent messages:
Loading pp...done
Type C-x 1 to remove help window.
Making completion list...
call-interactively: Buffer is read-only: #buffer *Completions* [2 times]
Making completion list...
Loading emacsbug...
Loading regexp-opt...done
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GTK Toolbar Annoyance

2007-02-19 Thread Thomas Christensen
I have this in my .emacs:

(custom-set-variables
 '(tool-bar-mode nil))

I start emacs with emacs-snapshot-gtk -g 80x40, and the frame that
opens is 80x37 (I presume it is made 3 shorter due to the toolbar
removal).  Then I press C-x 5 2, and a new frame is spawned with the
proper 80x40.

If I do this with emacs-snapshot-x -g 80x40 (non-gtk emacs snapshot)
the first frame opens with 80x40, and C-x 5 2 spawn the new frame with
80x40 as well.  Which I presume is the right behavior.


In GNU Emacs 22.0.93.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.8.20)
 of 2007-02-17 on pacem, modified by Debian
 (Debian emacs-snapshot package, version 1:20070217-1)
X server distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.70101000
configured using `configure  '--build' 'i486-linux-gnu' '--host' 
'i486-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' 
'--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=/var' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' 
'--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=yes' 
'--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs-snapshot:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/22.0.93/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/22.0.93/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/22.0.93/leim'
 '--with-x=yes' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk' 'build_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 
'host_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-DDEBIAN -DSITELOAD_PURESIZE_EXTRA=5000 -g 
-O2''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: en_DK.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Lisp Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t
  utf-translate-cjk-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t

Recent input:
down-mouse-1 mouse-1 help-echo help-echo help-echo 
help-echo help-echo help-echo menu-bar help-menu 
report-emacs-bug

Recent messages:
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50dictionaries-common.el (source)...
Skipping dictionaries-common setup for emacs-snapshot
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50dictionaries-common.el (source)...done
Loading gnus...done
Loading advice...done
For information about the GNU Project and its goals, type C-h C-p. [2 times]
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Emacs splash screen trouble

2007-02-19 Thread Thomas Christensen
# echo foo1  foo1
# echo foo2  foo2
# emacs foo*

The splash window is now in the bottom part of the frame, and the foo1
is in the upper part.  If I select to foo1 window it is cursorless, I
do a C-x 1 (by habbit), and now I either have to wait for the splash
code to time out, or find the secret splash buffer and click in it.

Possible solution: Any selection of a window, or buffer editing
expires the splash screen.


In GNU Emacs 22.0.93.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
 of 2007-02-17 on pacem, modified by Debian
 (Debian emacs-snapshot package, version 1:20070217-1)
X server distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.70101000
configured using `configure  '--build' 'i486-linux-gnu' '--host' 
'i486-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' 
'--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=/var' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' 
'--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=yes' 
'--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs-snapshot:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/22.0.93/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/22.0.93/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/22.0.93/leim'
 '--with-x=yes' '--with-x-toolkit=athena' '--with-toolkit-scroll-bars' 
'build_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-DDEBIAN 
-DSITELOAD_PURESIZE_EXTRA=5000 -g -O2''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: en_DK.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Fundamental

Minor modes in effect:
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t
  utf-translate-cjk-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t

Recent input:
down-mouse-1 mouse-1 help-echo help-echo help-echo 
help-echo help-echo help-echo menu-bar help-menu 
report-emacs-bug

Recent messages:
Loading 00debian-vars...done
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50dictionaries-common.el (source)...
Skipping dictionaries-common setup for emacs-snapshot
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50dictionaries-common.el (source)...done
Loading gnus...done
Loading advice...done
For information about the GNU Project and its goals, type C-h C-p. [2 times]
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Re: vertical scrollbar error on MS Windows

2007-02-19 Thread Kim F. Storm
Juanma Barranquero [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 2/19/07, Kim F. Storm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can you -- and other W32 users -- please try out the latest CVS
 and tell me ASAP if there are still _severe_ problems with it.

 Hard to say what is a severe problem. With the sample file (scroll.txt):

 - Make the frame's height 30 lines.
 - Visit scroll.txt
 - Move point to eob.
 - Scroll up to bob.
 - Release the mouse button.
 - Scroll down.

 I can't get past line 46.

That's right, but still it is not worse than before.

I don't see an easy fix for this, so let's leave it for
after the release.

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Re: vertical scrollbar error on MS Windows

2007-02-19 Thread Peter Tury

Hi,

thanks for the quick fix!

I tried latest Emacs W32 (U070219) and for me it seems to be OK: I
haven't found any problems with vscrolling.

Br,
P

2007/2/19, Lennart Borgman (gmail) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Kim F. Storm wrote:

 Can you -- and other W32 users -- please try out the latest CVS
 and tell me ASAP if there are still _severe_ problems with it.

 At least it seems to work a lot better than before, but we need
 as much testing as possible BEFORE to the release (which *is*
 very close now!!).

 So, also tell me if you tested it, and didn't find any problems!

I have uploaded a new unpatched version Emacs+EmacsW32 for those who
want to test



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Re: vertical scrollbar error on MS Windows

2007-02-19 Thread Juanma Barranquero

On 2/19/07, Kim F. Storm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


That's right, but still it is not worse than before.


Aha. I didn't know, I always work without scroll bars.


I don't see an easy fix for this, so let's leave it for
after the release.


Agreed.

Juanma


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Re: please use ?\u2014 instead of the unicode character inbuff-menu.el

2007-02-19 Thread Juanma Barranquero

On 2/19/07, Drew Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Please explain why 1) is more readable than 2):

1) ;; Use U+2014 (EM DASH) to underline if possible, else U+002D
(HYPHEN-MINUS)
   (if (char-displayable-p ?-) ?- ?-)))

2) (if (char-displayable-p ?\u2014) ?\u2014 ?-)))


In 1), the code is straightforward (a fact obscured in the e-mail
because em dash got changed to hyphen-minus), and the comment clearly
says what's happening, and even identifies *both* characters involved.

In 2), \u2014 does not mean anything per se, so the user hasn't the
foggiest idea why some random unicode char would be used instead of -.
You'll need the same comment as before to clarify that (and, in fact,
Stefan didn't remove the comment when changing the code).

You can convince me that 2) will get less trouble than 1) for people
with broken tools; but not that 2) is more legible.

Juanma


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Re: please use ?\u2014 instead of the unicode character inbuff-menu.el

2007-02-19 Thread Stefan Monnier
  I don't think this a real life problem that is worth making
  the code less readable over.
 
 I agree. There are more simple solutions.


 Please explain why 1) is more readable than 2):

 1) ;; Use U+2014 (EM DASH) to underline if possible, else U+002D
 (HYPHEN-MINUS)
(if (char-displayable-p ?-) ?- ?-)))

 2) (if (char-displayable-p ?\u2014) ?\u2014 ?-)))

Check the current code.  It's a mix of the two.
I changed it not because of any web server/client issue, but simply because
the resulting code is more readable.


Stefan


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RE: please use ?\u2014 instead of the unicode character inbuff-menu.el

2007-02-19 Thread Drew Adams
  Please explain why 1) is more readable than 2):

  1) ;; Use U+2014 (EM DASH) to underline if possible, else U+002D
  (HYPHEN-MINUS)
 (if (char-displayable-p ?-) ?- ?-)))

  2) (if (char-displayable-p ?\u2014) ?\u2014 ?-)))

 Check the current code.  It's a mix of the two.
 I changed it not because of any web server/client issue, but
 simply because the resulting code is more readable.

Yes, thank you. That's in fact what I meant. It helps that the two
characters appear different, and the comment makes it clear what the
intention is.



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Re: Emacs splash screen trouble

2007-02-19 Thread Chong Yidong
Thomas Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 # echo foo1  foo1
 # echo foo2  foo2
 # emacs foo*

 The splash window is now in the bottom part of the frame, and the foo1
 is in the upper part.  If I select to foo1 window it is cursorless, I
 do a C-x 1 (by habbit), and now I either have to wait for the splash
 code to time out, or find the secret splash buffer and click in it.

Thanks for pointing this out.  Is the following a satisfactory solution?

*** emacs/lisp/startup.el.~1.426.~  2007-01-28 10:49:26.0 -0500
--- emacs/lisp/startup.el   2007-02-19 21:32:12.0 -0500
***
*** 1388,1393 
--- 1388,1394 
(save-selected-window
  (select-frame frame)
  (switch-to-buffer  GNU Emacs)
+ (make-local-variable 'cursor-type)
  (setq splash-buffer (current-buffer))
  (catch 'stop-splashing
(unwind-protect



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Re: use-file-dialog and use-dialog-box on w32

2007-02-19 Thread Eli Zaretskii
 From: Edward Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:11:43 -0600
 
 I have been downloading the emacs version 22.** + auctex binaries since
 22.0.50 and in none of them has the file dialog worked when clicking on
 the options under File on the menu bar. C-h v use-file-dialog and
 use-dialog-box reveals that both are set to t
 
 System is msw 98.

Strange.  What does happen when you click on File-Open File from the
menu bar?

 In GNU Emacs 22.0.93.1 (i386-mingw-windows98.)
  of 2007-01-26 on NEUTRINO

This indicates that you built the binary yourself, is that true?  If
so, what version of MinGW runtime do you have installed?


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Re: Emacs splash screen trouble

2007-02-19 Thread Thomas Christensen
Chong Yidong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Thanks for pointing this out.  Is the following a satisfactory solution?

Yes, it works.

The only thing I spot is that it seems to be inside a recursive-edit
until the time expires.

Thomas



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move-end-of-line in comint buffers

2007-02-19 Thread Michael Welsh Duggan
Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug
and the precise symptoms of the bug:

1) Type `M-x shell RET'

2) Type in a command (or any random junk) that wraps to the next
   visible line

3) Type `C-p'.  The point should now be at the beginning of the
   prompt. 

4) Type `C-e'.  The point is now at the end of the prompt / beginning
   of the command.

5) Type `C-e'.  The point is now at the end of the visible line.

6) Type `C-e'.  The point is now at the end of the actual line.


Behavior (5) above is unexpected.  I could not find information about
this in either the Emacs manual, the Elisp manual, or NEWS.  The
behavior may be desireable, but if so, should be documented.


If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger,
please include the output from the following gdb commands:
`bt full' and `xbacktrace'.
If you would like to further debug the crash, please read the file
/usr/local/share/emacs/22.0.93/etc/DEBUG for instructions.


In GNU Emacs 22.0.93.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit)
 of 2007-02-20 on maru
X server distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.70101000
configured using `configure  '--without-toolkit-scroll-bars''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: C
  locale-coding-system: nil
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Shell

Minor modes in effect:
  display-time-mode: t
  shell-dirtrack-mode: t
  erc-autojoin-mode: t
  erc-button-mode: t
  erc-ring-mode: t
  erc-pcomplete-mode: t
  erc-track-mode: t
  erc-match-mode: t
  erc-fill-mode: t
  erc-stamp-mode: t
  erc-netsplit-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t
  utf-translate-cjk-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t

Recent input:
help-echo C-x C-f n e tab backspace backspace 
p r o j tab n e tab / t r tab s i tab s r tab 
s e n tab return M-x s h e l l return C-y C-a 
C-p C-e C-e C-e C-x 5 2 switch-frame C-h i switch-frame 
M-x r e p o r t - e m tab return

Recent messages:
Loading /home/md5i/src/elisp/nxml-mode/rng-auto.el (source)...done
Loading time...done
Loading /home/md5i/.emacs-custom...done
Loading server...done
nil [2 times]
Loading ansi-color...done
Mark set
Loading info...done
Composing main Info directory...done
Loading emacsbug...done

-- 
Michael Welsh Duggan
([EMAIL PROTECTED])


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