Re: [Emc-developers] Anyone using LinuxCNC on Wind River / FSMLabs "rtl" realtime linux?

2014-08-06 Thread EBo 
Just to follow up.  No one got back to me regarding if they have any 
interest in it, so at this point I would say trash it.

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On Jul 21 2014 1:57 PM, EBo wrote:
> I think I was one of the last people to support RTL, and that was 
> back
> in 2004 +/-1.  If you want I will give the appropriate people a poke 
> and
> see what they want to do.
>
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> On Jul 21 2014 1:52 PM, Jeff Epler wrote:
>> I have never heard of anyone using this port since 2006, if not
>> earlier.
>>
>> I have been unable to find any evidence that there are even public
>> kernel patches for 2.6.x let alone 3.y kernels.  (and while there
>> used
>> to be patches for kernel 2.4, they also appear to have evaporated
>> from
>> the internet).
>>
>> If no one wishes to step forward as a maintainer of this RTAPI
>> implementation (known as rtl in our source tree), I think we should
>> just
>> delete it from our master branch.  Barring an offer to maintain that
>> code, I'll do this sometime after August 1.
>>
>> This would, in theory, reduce the number of supported RTOSes from 3
>> to
>> 2, but I really don't think anybody's going to be crying over this
>> one.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> 
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Re: [Emc-developers] Interesting email from TI

2014-08-06 Thread Marius Liebenberg 

On 2014-08-06 19:16, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 06 August 2014 12:39:13 Marius Liebenberg did opine
> And Gene did reply:
>> On 2014-08-06 17:20, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> On Wednesday 06 August 2014 09:27:47 Marius Liebenberg did opine
>>>
>>> And Gene did reply:
 Where's the link old man?

 On 2014-08-06 03:09, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Describing a new stepper driver kit, 48 volts, 4.5 amps, 256
> steps/step, and $25 a motor.  Sounds interesting.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
>>> Lemme see if I can find it, its in my inbox for the work account.
>>>
>>> >> NTcyMjgS1&j=NTAwMTM1NTM5S0&mt=1&rt=0>
>>>
>>> Should get you to the propaganda pages.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
>> Thanks got that. The price is good.
> For smaller machines where the xylotex board is being used at or near its
> capacity with the resultant short lifetime I experienced, it could be just
> what the Doctor prescribed.
>
> Now, if I could just find the makings for a 45 volt, 10 amp supply for my
> mill, I'd be a happy camper in that dept.  I have 4, 2M542's in that box,
> but only 28 volts and it stalls if I try to push it beyond 15 ipm rapids.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
I have to agree, anything less than 42v is pretty useless.

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Re: [Emc-developers] xhc-04 pendant with 2.6.1 and wheezy boot iso

2014-08-06 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky 
On 8/6/14 11:28 AM, Dewey Garrett wrote:
>
> for anyone following, a patch to fix commited (2.6 branch):
>
> http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=d72860603260b83dd7e8e58242c81aba2525728d

The fix will be in v2.6.1-3-gd728606 from the buildbot, and in 2.6.2 
when that comes out.


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Re: [Emc-developers] xhc-04 pendant with 2.6.1 and wheezy boot iso

2014-08-06 Thread Dewey Garrett 

for anyone following, a patch to fix commited (2.6 branch):

http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=d72860603260b83dd7e8e58242c81aba2525728d

thanks to: seb, jepler, cradek, david armstrong, rene hopf
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Re: [Emc-developers] Interesting email from TI

2014-08-06 Thread Gene Heskett 
On Wednesday 06 August 2014 12:39:13 Marius Liebenberg did opine
And Gene did reply:
> On 2014-08-06 17:20, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Wednesday 06 August 2014 09:27:47 Marius Liebenberg did opine
> > 
> > And Gene did reply:
> >> Where's the link old man?
> >> 
> >> On 2014-08-06 03:09, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >>> Describing a new stepper driver kit, 48 volts, 4.5 amps, 256
> >>> steps/step, and $25 a motor.  Sounds interesting.
> >>> 
> >>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > 
> > Lemme see if I can find it, its in my inbox for the work account.
> > 
> >  > NTcyMjgS1&j=NTAwMTM1NTM5S0&mt=1&rt=0>
> > 
> > Should get you to the propaganda pages.
> > 
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> 
> Thanks got that. The price is good.

For smaller machines where the xylotex board is being used at or near its 
capacity with the resultant short lifetime I experienced, it could be just 
what the Doctor prescribed.

Now, if I could just find the makings for a 45 volt, 10 amp supply for my 
mill, I'd be a happy camper in that dept.  I have 4, 2M542's in that box, 
but only 28 volts and it stalls if I try to push it beyond 15 ipm rapids.

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Re: [Emc-developers] xhc-04 pendant with 2.6.1 and wheezy boot iso

2014-08-06 Thread Dewey Garrett 

>Other rules on this system have MODE="0666", not 666.  I notice:
tested, didn't matter

>I (the install user) am not a member of "users" - so perhaps
>"plugdev" might be a better choice?

sigh, i didn't notice the debian wheezy install did not put
users in the users group but apparently does put users
in the plugdev group


so the 90-xhc.rules works on debian wheezy if changed
to use  group==plugdev

I have no idea what sets the sticky bit

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Re: [Emc-developers] Interesting email from TI

2014-08-06 Thread Marius Liebenberg 

On 2014-08-06 17:20, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 06 August 2014 09:27:47 Marius Liebenberg did opine
> And Gene did reply:
>> Where's the link old man?
>>
>> On 2014-08-06 03:09, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> Describing a new stepper driver kit, 48 volts, 4.5 amps, 256
>>> steps/step, and $25 a motor.  Sounds interesting.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> Lemme see if I can find it, its in my inbox for the work account.
>
> 
>
> Should get you to the propaganda pages.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
Thanks got that. The price is good.

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Re: [Emc-developers] xhc-04 pendant with 2.6.1 and wheezy boot iso

2014-08-06 Thread Chris Radek 
On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 03:57:59PM +, Dewey Garrett wrote:
> 
> # xhc-hb04 mpg pendant
> ATTR{idProduct}=="eb70", ATTR{idVendor}=="10ce", MODE="666", OWNER="root", 
> GROUP="users"

Two things that may or may not be interesting on my wheezy install:

Other rules on this system have MODE="0666", not 666.  I notice:

% dc -e 8o666p
1232

might account for the T.  (If this is the problem, it's very
stupid).

I (the install user) am not a member of "users" - so perhaps
"plugdev" might be a better choice?

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Re: [Emc-developers] xhc-04 pendant with 2.6.1 and wheezy boot iso

2014-08-06 Thread Dewey Garrett 

> Please send the output of "lsusb" (with the pendant plugged in), to see 
> if the product and vendor ids are as expected.

The rule was clearly seen since the owner was set to root:users (not root:root)

Excerpt from lsbusb -v:
  Bus 007 Device 002: ID 10ce:eb70 Silicon Labs 
  Device Descriptor:
bLength18
bDescriptorType 1
bcdUSB   1.10
bDeviceClass0 (Defined at Interface level)
bDeviceSubClass 0 
bDeviceProtocol 0 
bMaxPacketSize064
idVendor   0x10ce Silicon Labs
idProduct  0xeb70 
bcdDevice0.00
iManufacturer   1 KTURT.LTD
iProduct0 
iSerial 0 
bNumConfigurations  1


> Also send the output of, um, "udevadm monitor" with all the right flags 
> that i dont know, while plugging in the pendant, to see why the rule 
> isn't getting run right.

---
udevadm monitor transcript when plugging in xhc-hb04:
$ udevadm monitor --kernel --udev --property
output follows:

monitor will print the received events for:
UDEV - the event which udev sends out after rule processing
KERNEL - the kernel uevent

KERNEL[868.429373] add  /devices/pci:00/:00:1d.1/usb7/7-1 (usb)
ACTION=add
BUSNUM=007
DEVICE=/proc/bus/usb/007/004
DEVNAME=bus/usb/007/004
DEVNUM=004
DEVPATH=/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.1/usb7/7-1
DEVTYPE=usb_device
MAJOR=189
MINOR=771
PRODUCT=10ce/eb70/0
SEQNUM=1266
SUBSYSTEM=usb
TYPE=0/0/0
UDEV_LOG=3

KERNEL[868.432201] add  /devices/pci:00/:00:1d.1/usb7/7-1/7-1:1.0 
(usb)
ACTION=add
DEVICE=/proc/bus/usb/007/004
DEVPATH=/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.1/usb7/7-1/7-1:1.0
DEVTYPE=usb_interface
INTERFACE=3/0/0
MODALIAS=usb:v10CEpEB70ddc00dsc00dp00ic03isc00ip00
PRODUCT=10ce/eb70/0
SEQNUM=1267
SUBSYSTEM=usb
TYPE=0/0/0
UDEV_LOG=3

KERNEL[868.432310] add  
/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.1/usb7/7-1/7-1:1.0/0003:10CE:EB70.0003 (hid)
ACTION=add
DEVPATH=/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.1/usb7/7-1/7-1:1.0/0003:10CE:EB70.0003
HID_ID=0003:10CE:EB70
HID_NAME=KTURT.LTD
HID_PHYS=usb-:00:1d.1-1/input0
MODALIAS=hid:b0003v10CEpEB70
SEQNUM=1268
SUBSYSTEM=hid
UDEV_LOG=3

KERNEL[868.437154] add  /class/usb (class)
ACTION=add
DEVPATH=/class/usb
SEQNUM=1269
SUBSYSTEM=class
UDEV_LOG=3

KERNEL[868.441274] add  
/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.1/usb7/7-1/7-1:1.0/usb/hiddev0 (usb)
ACTION=add
DEVNAME=usb/hiddev0
DEVPATH=/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.1/usb7/7-1/7-1:1.0/usb/hiddev0
MAJOR=180
MINOR=0
SEQNUM=1270
SUBSYSTEM=usb
UDEV_LOG=3

UDEV  [868.441297] add  /class/usb (class)
ACTION=add
DEVPATH=/class/usb
SEQNUM=1269
SUBSYSTEM=class
UDEV_LOG=3
USEC_INITIALIZED=868437415

KERNEL[868.441318] add  
/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.1/usb7/7-1/7-1:1.0/0003:10CE:EB70.0003/hidraw/hidraw0
 (hidraw)
ACTION=add
DEVNAME=hidraw0
DEVPATH=/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.1/usb7/7-1/7-1:1.0/0003:10CE:EB70.0003/hidraw/hidraw0
MAJOR=252
MINOR=0
SEQNUM=1271
SUBSYSTEM=hidraw
UDEV_LOG=3

UDEV  [868.442066] add  /devices/pci:00/:00:1d.1/usb7/7-1 (usb)
ACTION=add
BUSNUM=007
DEVICE=/proc/bus/usb/007/004
DEVNAME=/dev/bus/usb/007/004
DEVNUM=004
DEVPATH=/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.1/usb7/7-1
DEVTYPE=usb_device
ID_BUS=usb
ID_MODEL=eb70
ID_MODEL_ENC=eb70
ID_MODEL_ID=eb70
ID_REVISION=
ID_SERIAL=KTURT.LTD_eb70
ID_USB_INTERFACES=:03:
ID_VENDOR=KTURT.LTD
ID_VENDOR_ENC=KTURT.LTD
ID_VENDOR_ID=10ce
MAJOR=189
MINOR=771
PRODUCT=10ce/eb70/0
SEQNUM=1266
SUBSYSTEM=usb
TYPE=0/0/0
UDEV_LOG=3
USEC_INITIALIZED=868441922

UDEV  [868.455098] add  /devices/pci:00/:00:1d.1/usb7/7-1/7-1:1.0 
(usb)
ACTION=add
DEVICE=/proc/bus/usb/007/004
DEVPATH=/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.1/usb7/7-1/7-1:1.0
DEVTYPE=usb_interface
INTERFACE=3/0/0
MODALIAS=usb:v10CEpEB70ddc00dsc00dp00ic03isc00ip00
PRODUCT=10ce/eb70/0
SEQNUM=1267
SUBSYSTEM=usb
TYPE=0/0/0
UDEV_LOG=3
USEC_INITIALIZED=868453222

UDEV  [868.456759] add  
/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.1/usb7/7-1/7-1:1.0/usb/hiddev0 (usb)
ACTION=add
DEVNAME=/dev/usb/hiddev0
DEVPATH=/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.1/usb7/7-1/7-1:1.0/usb/hiddev0
MAJOR=180
MINOR=0
SEQNUM=1270
SUBSYSTEM=usb
UDEV_LOG=3
USEC_INITIALIZED=868456643

UDEV  [868.460849] add  
/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.1/usb7/7-1/7-1:1.0/0003:10CE:EB70.0003 (hid)
ACTION=add
DEVPATH=/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.1/usb7/7-1/7-1:1.0/0003:10CE:EB70.0003
HID_ID=0003:10CE:EB70
HID_NAME=KTURT.LTD
HID_PHYS=usb-:00:1d.1-1/input0
MODALIAS=hid:b0003v10CEpEB70
SEQNUM=1268
SUBSYSTEM=hid
UDEV_LOG=3
USEC_INITIALIZED=868457063

UDEV  [868.461759] add  
/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.1/usb7/7-1/7-1:1.0/0003:10CE:EB70.0003/hidraw/hidraw0
 (hidraw)
ACTION=add
DEVNAME=/dev/hidraw0
DEVPATH=/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.1/usb7/7-1/7-1:1.0/0003:10CE:EB70.0003/hidraw/hidraw0
MAJOR=252
MINOR=0
SEQNUM=1271
SUBSYSTEM=hidraw
UDEV_LOG=3
USEC_INITIALIZED

Re: [Emc-developers] xhc-04 pendant with 2.6.1 and wheezy boot iso

2014-08-06 Thread David Armstrong 
i also think a note shoud be added to the wiki that the SYSFS entrys in the
udev file are incorrect for Wheezy , incase someone trys to build from
source etc
might stop someone tearing their hair out


On 6 August 2014 16:19, David Armstrong  wrote:

> vendor id's are correct 10ce:eb70
>
>
> On 6 August 2014 16:16, Sebastian Kuzminsky  wrote:
>
>> On 8/6/14 9:09 AM, Dewey Garrett wrote:
>> >
>> > I tested on wheezy using a buildbot deb
>> linuxcnc_2.6.1.1.gf0c9384_i386.deb
>> > (instead of the iso) and see:
>> >
>> >$ lsb_release -rc
>> >Release:   7.6
>> >Codename:  wheezy
>> >
>> >$ uname -a
>> >Linux debian-shop2 3.4-9-rtai-686-pae #1 SMP PREEMPT Debian
>> 3.4.55-3linuxcnc i686 GNU/Linux
>> >
>> >$ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/90-xhc.rules
>> ># xhc-hb04 mpg pendant
>> >ATTR{idProduct}=="eb70", ATTR{idVendor}=="10ce", MODE="666",
>> OWNER="root", GROUP="users"
>> >
>> > as expected.
>> >
>> -
>> >
>> > The error i see starting xhc-hb04 is:
>> >
>> > [ 1.002037] [1227] libusbx: error [op_open] libusbx couldn't open
>> USB device /dev/bus/usb/007/002: Permission denied.
>> > [ 1.002080] [1227] libusbx: error [op_open] libusbx requires write
>> access to USB device nodes.
>> >
>> -
>> >
>> > looking at the permissions i see:
>> >$ ls -l /dev/bus/usb/007/002
>> >crw-rw-r-T 1 root users 189, 769 Aug  6 07:46 /dev/bus/usb/007/002
>> >
>> -
>> > so MODE="666" was not honored
>> >
>> > if i change with
>> >$ sudo chmod 777 /dev/bus/usb/007/002, perms are ok
>> >
>> -
>> > maybe this will help a debian packaging expert
>>
>> This is exemplary debugging info, thanks Dewey.
>>
>> Please send the output of "lsusb" (with the pendant plugged in), to see
>> if the product and vendor ids are as expected.
>>
>> Also send the output of, um, "udevadm monitor" with all the right flags
>> that i dont know, while plugging in the pendant, to see why the rule
>> isn't getting run right.
>>
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Re: [Emc-developers] Hostmot2 ethernet support now in master branch (was Re: feedback on jepler/hm2-eth-v2)

2014-08-06 Thread Gene Heskett 
On Wednesday 06 August 2014 09:29:26 sam sokolik did opine
And Gene did reply:
> This is master running on debian wheezy and rt_preemt.  It has been up
> for 9 days so far.  It is running the splash screen in an infinite
> loop. The stepgens in the 7i80 are in velocity mode and running with
> pid.
> 
> http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/weekplus.png
> 
> sam

Sweet Sam. Install cd in the works?

I'm still trying to get my 5i25 up and running on my lathe, and I assume, 
because it also uses PID's in front of the stepgens, that they are also 
running in velocity mode?

The reason its not up by now is my encoder board took a dump. I carved a 
new one and populated it yesterday but only 1 of the 3 opto's seems to 
have survived, so I have to order more. And firefox is having cows with 
javascript, keeping me from submitting the order.  I'll have to call them.

I also have some board with much heavier copper coming, this board has too 
thin traces to be remotely close to robust.  Latest .brd in .png formet 
and a couple .jpg's scans of freshly carved board attached to demonstrate.
 
> On 7/26/2014 11:18 AM, Jeff Epler wrote:
> > Thanks to everyone who tested and did code review, and thanks in
> > particular to Michael Geszkiewicz who wrote the original code, the
> > hostmot2 driver has now been merged to the LinuxCNC master branch.
> > 
> > This is the first hardware driver that functions exclusively with
> > userspace POSIX realtime, aka "uspace".  To use it, you have to use a
> > PREEMPT-RT kernel such as linux linux-image-3.2.0-4-rt-686-pae on
> > Debian 7, configure your linuxcnc with
> > 
> >  --enable-realtime=uspace
> > 
> > and "sudo make setuid" so that linuxcnc can run with realtime
> > priority.
> > 
> > For more information on "uspace" realtime,
> > 
> >  http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Uspace
> > 
> > Jeff
> > 
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Re: [Emc-developers] Interesting email from TI

2014-08-06 Thread Gene Heskett 
On Wednesday 06 August 2014 09:27:47 Marius Liebenberg did opine
And Gene did reply:
> Where's the link old man?
> 
> On 2014-08-06 03:09, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Describing a new stepper driver kit, 48 volts, 4.5 amps, 256
> > steps/step, and $25 a motor.  Sounds interesting.
> > 
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett

Lemme see if I can find it, its in my inbox for the work account.



Should get you to the propaganda pages.

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Re: [Emc-developers] xhc-04 pendant with 2.6.1 and wheezy boot iso

2014-08-06 Thread David Armstrong 
vendor id's are correct 10ce:eb70


On 6 August 2014 16:16, Sebastian Kuzminsky  wrote:

> On 8/6/14 9:09 AM, Dewey Garrett wrote:
> >
> > I tested on wheezy using a buildbot deb
> linuxcnc_2.6.1.1.gf0c9384_i386.deb
> > (instead of the iso) and see:
> >
> >$ lsb_release -rc
> >Release:   7.6
> >Codename:  wheezy
> >
> >$ uname -a
> >Linux debian-shop2 3.4-9-rtai-686-pae #1 SMP PREEMPT Debian
> 3.4.55-3linuxcnc i686 GNU/Linux
> >
> >$ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/90-xhc.rules
> ># xhc-hb04 mpg pendant
> >ATTR{idProduct}=="eb70", ATTR{idVendor}=="10ce", MODE="666",
> OWNER="root", GROUP="users"
> >
> > as expected.
> > -
> >
> > The error i see starting xhc-hb04 is:
> >
> > [ 1.002037] [1227] libusbx: error [op_open] libusbx couldn't open
> USB device /dev/bus/usb/007/002: Permission denied.
> > [ 1.002080] [1227] libusbx: error [op_open] libusbx requires write
> access to USB device nodes.
> > -
> >
> > looking at the permissions i see:
> >$ ls -l /dev/bus/usb/007/002
> >crw-rw-r-T 1 root users 189, 769 Aug  6 07:46 /dev/bus/usb/007/002
> > -
> > so MODE="666" was not honored
> >
> > if i change with
> >$ sudo chmod 777 /dev/bus/usb/007/002, perms are ok
> > -
> > maybe this will help a debian packaging expert
>
> This is exemplary debugging info, thanks Dewey.
>
> Please send the output of "lsusb" (with the pendant plugged in), to see
> if the product and vendor ids are as expected.
>
> Also send the output of, um, "udevadm monitor" with all the right flags
> that i dont know, while plugging in the pendant, to see why the rule
> isn't getting run right.
>
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Re: [Emc-developers] Tool Table and Wear offset Table

2014-08-06 Thread Gene Heskett 
On Wednesday 06 August 2014 07:40:25 Rick Lair did opine
And Gene did reply:
> Good Morning Guys,
> 
> Dewey,
> 
> I see this patch, I am working on testing it now, thanks
> 
> Andy,
> 
> The guys tried running a program last night, and as soon as it gets to
> the tool call in the program, the gcode for the program disappears and
> the subroutine pops up in the window, and the gremlin backplot jumps
> from the picture of the part and goes back to the 0,0 point of the
> display,
> 
> We are using gmoccapy if that makes a difference?
> 
> Any thoughts,
> 
> Thanks

I am using axis, too lazy to switch, and I don't generally fix whats not 
broken.

But I am seeing something similar, not in the backplot, but in the axis 
code display window at the bottom. Anytime a tool change is approaching, 
the code disappears, and the tool table appears. Always with the same tool 
highlighted regardless of the upcoming tool number being requested.  And, 
IIRC, the tool table display remains until the following o call, 
which dynamically sets the TLO, has been completed.

But, I am not at all sure it is the LCNC tool table being displayed, I 
believe its the expected tool table from headers of the pcb2gcode 
generated files!  Which is nice since the insert tool requester does NOT 
spec the size of the drill its looking for, but the text window does show 
the pcb2gcode expected tool diameter in the M6T2 line.  No clue how that 
is done but it does appear to work correctly.

Where people like me, without a tool changer, or as Stuart once said, a 2 
armed tool changer, can lose track, having the popup display the diameter 
of the tool being requested in the popups larger font would be quite a 
usable bit of help for aging eyes.  A 2.6.x hint perhaps?  But I actually 
think the instant behavior is useful.

In the long run, one more column in the tool table, that contained a code 
number that describes the tool, where 0=drill, 1=flat faced mill, 2=round 
nosed mill, etc, etc, would seem to be useful. 0-9 for milling tools, 
10-29 for lathe tools.  Wish list...  ;-)

> Rick Lair
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 12:46 PM
> To: EMC developers
> Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Tool Table and Wear offset Table
> 
> On 5 August 2014 17:36, Rick Lair  wrote:
> > Apparently I spoke too soon, but I swear it was working properly
> 
> yesterday,
> 
> > when I did the update.
> > 
> > The original toolchange.ngc file you wrote works fine, what we
> > modified it too doesn't. For some reason it is not reading/using the
> > tool data in the
> 
> T1
> 
> > locations in the tool table.
> 
> Yes, this is the problem I pointed out.
> You need to G43 the tool offset data, then G43.2 the wear modifier.
> Your changes removed the G43 # and only left a G43 #
> 
> (actually, it doesn't matter what order you do them in, but G43
> # and G43.2 # feels more logical.)


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Re: [Emc-developers] xhc-04 pendant with 2.6.1 and wheezy boot iso

2014-08-06 Thread David Armstrong 
Dewey,

confirm the same results as yourself , thanks
although i'll keep this open ,if a fix comes along

Dave


On 6 August 2014 16:09, Dewey Garrett  wrote:

>
> I tested on wheezy using a buildbot deb linuxcnc_2.6.1.1.gf0c9384_i386.deb
> (instead of the iso) and see:
>
>   $ lsb_release -rc
>   Release:  7.6
>   Codename: wheezy
>
>   $ uname -a
>   Linux debian-shop2 3.4-9-rtai-686-pae #1 SMP PREEMPT Debian
> 3.4.55-3linuxcnc i686 GNU/Linux
>
>   $ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/90-xhc.rules
>   # xhc-hb04 mpg pendant
>   ATTR{idProduct}=="eb70", ATTR{idVendor}=="10ce", MODE="666",
> OWNER="root", GROUP="users"
>
> as expected.
> -
>
> The error i see starting xhc-hb04 is:
>
> [ 1.002037] [1227] libusbx: error [op_open] libusbx couldn't open USB
> device /dev/bus/usb/007/002: Permission denied.
> [ 1.002080] [1227] libusbx: error [op_open] libusbx requires write
> access to USB device nodes.
> -
>
> looking at the permissions i see:
>   $ ls -l /dev/bus/usb/007/002
>   crw-rw-r-T 1 root users 189, 769 Aug  6 07:46 /dev/bus/usb/007/002
> -
> so MODE="666" was not honored
>
> if i change with
>   $ sudo chmod 777 /dev/bus/usb/007/002, perms are ok
> -
> maybe this will help a debian packaging expert
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Re: [Emc-developers] xhc-04 pendant with 2.6.1 and wheezy boot iso

2014-08-06 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky 
On 8/6/14 9:09 AM, Dewey Garrett wrote:
>
> I tested on wheezy using a buildbot deb linuxcnc_2.6.1.1.gf0c9384_i386.deb
> (instead of the iso) and see:
>
>$ lsb_release -rc
>Release:   7.6
>Codename:  wheezy
>
>$ uname -a
>Linux debian-shop2 3.4-9-rtai-686-pae #1 SMP PREEMPT Debian 
> 3.4.55-3linuxcnc i686 GNU/Linux
>
>$ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/90-xhc.rules
># xhc-hb04 mpg pendant
>ATTR{idProduct}=="eb70", ATTR{idVendor}=="10ce", MODE="666", OWNER="root", 
> GROUP="users"
>
> as expected.
> -
>
> The error i see starting xhc-hb04 is:
>
> [ 1.002037] [1227] libusbx: error [op_open] libusbx couldn't open USB 
> device /dev/bus/usb/007/002: Permission denied.
> [ 1.002080] [1227] libusbx: error [op_open] libusbx requires write access 
> to USB device nodes.
> -
>
> looking at the permissions i see:
>$ ls -l /dev/bus/usb/007/002
>crw-rw-r-T 1 root users 189, 769 Aug  6 07:46 /dev/bus/usb/007/002
> -
> so MODE="666" was not honored
>
> if i change with
>$ sudo chmod 777 /dev/bus/usb/007/002, perms are ok
> -
> maybe this will help a debian packaging expert

This is exemplary debugging info, thanks Dewey.

Please send the output of "lsusb" (with the pendant plugged in), to see 
if the product and vendor ids are as expected.

Also send the output of, um, "udevadm monitor" with all the right flags 
that i dont know, while plugging in the pendant, to see why the rule 
isn't getting run right.


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Re: [Emc-developers] xhc-04 pendant with 2.6.1 and wheezy boot iso

2014-08-06 Thread Dewey Garrett 

I tested on wheezy using a buildbot deb linuxcnc_2.6.1.1.gf0c9384_i386.deb
(instead of the iso) and see:

  $ lsb_release -rc
  Release:  7.6
  Codename: wheezy

  $ uname -a
  Linux debian-shop2 3.4-9-rtai-686-pae #1 SMP PREEMPT Debian 3.4.55-3linuxcnc 
i686 GNU/Linux

  $ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/90-xhc.rules
  # xhc-hb04 mpg pendant
  ATTR{idProduct}=="eb70", ATTR{idVendor}=="10ce", MODE="666", OWNER="root", 
GROUP="users"

as expected.
-

The error i see starting xhc-hb04 is:

[ 1.002037] [1227] libusbx: error [op_open] libusbx couldn't open USB 
device /dev/bus/usb/007/002: Permission denied.
[ 1.002080] [1227] libusbx: error [op_open] libusbx requires write access 
to USB device nodes.
-

looking at the permissions i see:
  $ ls -l /dev/bus/usb/007/002
  crw-rw-r-T 1 root users 189, 769 Aug  6 07:46 /dev/bus/usb/007/002
-
so MODE="666" was not honored

if i change with 
  $ sudo chmod 777 /dev/bus/usb/007/002, perms are ok
-
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Re: [Emc-developers] xhc-04 pendant with 2.6.1 and wheezy boot iso

2014-08-06 Thread David Armstrong 
Rene,
no the udev rule is correct and present


On 6 August 2014 15:21, Rene Hopf  wrote:

>
>
> On 06.08.2014, at 16:09, David Armstrong  wrote:
>
> > guy's
> >
> > this is using the new cd out the box and no changes
> > logging in as user and selecting linuxcnc , and sim xhc pendants give
> > access permissions
> > error . i presume the usb is not part of the users group
> >
> > running root terminal and then selecting as before xhc pendant works
> >
> > i would have thought as a user if linuxcnc works then the usb should or
> > would be active
> > at this stage
> >
> > i may add this is not me using run in place , this is as the hybrid iso
> is
> > presented to a new install
> >
> > are we missing a required permission
> >
>
> Its missing the udev rule:
>
> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Using_A_XHC-HB04_Wireless_MPG_Pendant
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Re: [Emc-developers] xhc-04 pendant with 2.6.1 and wheezy boot iso

2014-08-06 Thread Rene Hopf 


On 06.08.2014, at 16:09, David Armstrong  wrote:

> guy's
> 
> this is using the new cd out the box and no changes
> logging in as user and selecting linuxcnc , and sim xhc pendants give
> access permissions
> error . i presume the usb is not part of the users group
> 
> running root terminal and then selecting as before xhc pendant works
> 
> i would have thought as a user if linuxcnc works then the usb should or
> would be active
> at this stage
> 
> i may add this is not me using run in place , this is as the hybrid iso is
> presented to a new install
> 
> are we missing a required permission
> 

Its missing the udev rule:
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Using_A_XHC-HB04_Wireless_MPG_Pendant

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[Emc-developers] xhc-04 pendant with 2.6.1 and wheezy boot iso

2014-08-06 Thread David Armstrong 
guy's

this is using the new cd out the box and no changes
logging in as user and selecting linuxcnc , and sim xhc pendants give
access permissions
error . i presume the usb is not part of the users group

running root terminal and then selecting as before xhc pendant works

i would have thought as a user if linuxcnc works then the usb should or
would be active
at this stage

i may add this is not me using run in place , this is as the hybrid iso is
presented to a new install

are we missing a required permission

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Re: [Emc-developers] Hostmot2 ethernet support now in master branch (was Re: feedback on jepler/hm2-eth-v2)

2014-08-06 Thread sam sokolik 
This is master running on debian wheezy and rt_preemt.  It has been up 
for 9 days so far.  It is running the splash screen in an infinite loop. 
The stepgens in the 7i80 are in velocity mode and running with pid.

http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/weekplus.png

sam

On 7/26/2014 11:18 AM, Jeff Epler wrote:
> Thanks to everyone who tested and did code review, and thanks in
> particular to Michael Geszkiewicz who wrote the original code, the
> hostmot2 driver has now been merged to the LinuxCNC master branch.
>
> This is the first hardware driver that functions exclusively with
> userspace POSIX realtime, aka "uspace".  To use it, you have to use a
> PREEMPT-RT kernel such as linux linux-image-3.2.0-4-rt-686-pae on Debian
> 7, configure your linuxcnc with
>  --enable-realtime=uspace
> and "sudo make setuid" so that linuxcnc can run with realtime priority.
>
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>  http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Uspace
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Re: [Emc-developers] Interesting email from TI

2014-08-06 Thread Marius Liebenberg 
Where's the link old man?

On 2014-08-06 03:09, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Describing a new stepper driver kit, 48 volts, 4.5 amps, 256 steps/step,
> and $25 a motor.  Sounds interesting.
>
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Re: [Emc-developers] Tool Table and Wear offset Table

2014-08-06 Thread Rick Lair 
We are on the right track, I just need to get everything ironed out on my
end in regards to using gmoccapy. 

We do not though, expect to see the subroutine in the loaded gcode window.



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-Original Message-
From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 8:04 AM
To: EMC developers
Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Tool Table and Wear offset Table

On 6 August 2014 12:40, Rick Lair  wrote:

> The guys tried running a program last night, and as soon as it gets to the
> tool call in the program, the gcode for the program disappears and the
> subroutine pops up in the window, and the gremlin backplot jumps from the
> picture of the part and goes back to the 0,0 point of the display,
>
> We are using gmoccapy if that makes a difference?


I have heard other reports that Gmoccapy does that. I don't think that
Axis does, which is why I didn't spot it.

I don't know if you would ever expect to see the G-code of a
subroutine call or remap, so I am not sure where the fix belongs.

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Re: [Emc-developers] Tool Table and Wear offset Table

2014-08-06 Thread andy pugh 
On 6 August 2014 12:40, Rick Lair  wrote:

> The guys tried running a program last night, and as soon as it gets to the
> tool call in the program, the gcode for the program disappears and the
> subroutine pops up in the window, and the gremlin backplot jumps from the
> picture of the part and goes back to the 0,0 point of the display,
>
> We are using gmoccapy if that makes a difference?


I have heard other reports that Gmoccapy does that. I don't think that
Axis does, which is why I didn't spot it.

I don't know if you would ever expect to see the G-code of a
subroutine call or remap, so I am not sure where the fix belongs.

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Re: [Emc-developers] Tool Table and Wear offset Table

2014-08-06 Thread Rick Lair 
Good Morning Guys, 

Dewey, 

I see this patch, I am working on testing it now, thanks

Andy,

The guys tried running a program last night, and as soon as it gets to the
tool call in the program, the gcode for the program disappears and the
subroutine pops up in the window, and the gremlin backplot jumps from the
picture of the part and goes back to the 0,0 point of the display,

We are using gmoccapy if that makes a difference?

Any thoughts,

Thanks
 
 
Rick Lair
Superior Roll & Turning LLC.
PH: 734-279-1831
www.superiorroll.com

-Original Message-
From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 12:46 PM
To: EMC developers
Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Tool Table and Wear offset Table

On 5 August 2014 17:36, Rick Lair  wrote:

> Apparently I spoke too soon, but I swear it was working properly
yesterday,
> when I did the update.
>
> The original toolchange.ngc file you wrote works fine, what we modified it
> too doesn't. For some reason it is not reading/using the tool data in the
T1
> locations in the tool table.

Yes, this is the problem I pointed out.
You need to G43 the tool offset data, then G43.2 the wear modifier.
Your changes removed the G43 # and only left a G43 #

(actually, it doesn't matter what order you do them in, but G43
# and G43.2 # feels more logical.)

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