Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[John]

I right clicked on Applications selected Edit Menus and unchecked all 
the items in the CNC menu then checked them and they showed up in the 
Applications > CNC men. Seems to be an old issue with Mate as I had to 
do that before. Fixing the typo did put them in the CNC menu but they 
were not visible until you toggle the check box.


JT

On 9/16/20 8:29 AM, andy pugh wrote:

On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 13:39, John  wrote:

searching for the same issue I found this blog dunno if it helps or not

Not really, it describes what we already have.

One possibility, can you hand-edit the Category: in the .desktop files
to _only_ include the X-CNC-DOC or X-CNC-REF entry?




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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[andy pugh]

On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 13:39, John  wrote:
>
> searching for the same issue I found this blog dunno if it helps or not

Not really, it describes what we already have.

One possibility, can you hand-edit the Category: in the .desktop files
to _only_ include the X-CNC-DOC or X-CNC-REF entry?

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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[John]

searching for the same issue I found this blog dunno if it helps or not

https://eccentric.one/blog/linux/20181211-xdg_menu_for_local_installed_application_links.ecc

JT

On 9/16/20 7:35 AM, John wrote:

This is my CNC.menu from this morning's install from buildbot

http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/menu-spec/menu-1.0.dtd";>

  Applications
  
    CNC
    linuxcnc-cnc.directory
    
        X-CNC
    
    
        G-Code Quick-Reference
        linuxcnc-ref.directory
        
        X-CNC-REF
        
    
    
        Documentation
        linuxcnc-doc.directory
        
            X-CNC-DOC
        
    
  


On 9/16/20 6:54 AM, Håvard Flaget Aasen wrote:

ons. 16. sep. 2020, 13:11 skrev andy pugh :


I pushed a fix for the CNC.menu typo last night, so you could try the
builbot debs.

The buildbot didn't build after that commit, so it's still the old 
version.


Is changes from the debian folder excluded from the buildbot?

On my test system the menu got fixed immediately after a manual edit 
of the

file CNC.menu



But it is probably easier to edit
/etc/xdg/menus/application-combined/CNC.menu

(path from memory)


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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

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This is my CNC.menu from this morning's install from buildbot

http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/menu-spec/menu-1.0.dtd";>

  Applications
  
    CNC
    linuxcnc-cnc.directory
    
        X-CNC
    
    
        G-Code Quick-Reference
        linuxcnc-ref.directory
        
        X-CNC-REF
        
    
    
        Documentation
        linuxcnc-doc.directory
        
            X-CNC-DOC
        
    
  


On 9/16/20 6:54 AM, Håvard Flaget Aasen wrote:

ons. 16. sep. 2020, 13:11 skrev andy pugh :


I pushed a fix for the CNC.menu typo last night, so you could try the
builbot debs.


The buildbot didn't build after that commit, so it's still the old version.

Is changes from the debian folder excluded from the buildbot?

On my test system the menu got fixed immediately after a manual edit of the
file CNC.menu



But it is probably easier to edit
/etc/xdg/menus/application-combined/CNC.menu

(path from memory)


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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[Håvard Flaget Aasen]

ons. 16. sep. 2020, 13:54 skrev Håvard Flaget Aasen <
havard.flaget.aa...@gmail.com>:

>
>
> ons. 16. sep. 2020, 13:11 skrev andy pugh :
>
>> I pushed a fix for the CNC.menu typo last night, so you could try the
>> builbot debs.
>>
>
> The buildbot didn't build after that commit, so it's still the old version.
>

Which I am wrong, it is the newest..


> Is changes from the debian folder excluded from the buildbot?
>
> On my test system the menu got fixed immediately after a manual edit of
> the file CNC.menu
>
>
>> But it is probably easier to edit
>> /etc/xdg/menus/application-combined/CNC.menu
>>
>> (path from memory)
>>
>>
>> --
>> atp
>> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
>> designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
>> lunatics."
>> — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[Håvard Flaget Aasen]

ons. 16. sep. 2020, 13:11 skrev andy pugh :

> I pushed a fix for the CNC.menu typo last night, so you could try the
> builbot debs.
>

The buildbot didn't build after that commit, so it's still the old version.

Is changes from the debian folder excluded from the buildbot?

On my test system the menu got fixed immediately after a manual edit of the
file CNC.menu


> But it is probably easier to edit
> /etc/xdg/menus/application-combined/CNC.menu
>
> (path from memory)
>
>
> --
> atp
> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
> designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
> lunatics."
> — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[John]

john@d10cave:~$ sudo apt-key adv --keyserver hkp://keys.gnupg.net 
--recv-key E0EE663E

[sudo] password for john:
Executing: /tmp/apt-key-gpghome.iAhPoqQBaI/gpg.1.sh --keyserver 
hkp://keys.gnupg.net --recv-key E0EE663E
gpg: key EF1B07FEE0EE663E: "LinuxCNC Buildbot " not 
changed

gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:  unchanged: 1
john@d10cave:~$ sudo add-apt-repository "deb 
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ buster 2.8-rtpreempt"

john@d10cave:~$ sudo apt update
Hit:1 http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable InRelease
Hit:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease
Hit:3 http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates InRelease
Hit:4 http://linux.teamviewer.com/deb stable InRelease
Hit:5 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease
Get:6 http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org buster InRelease [37.8 kB]
Hit:7 http://repo.mysql.com/apt/debian buster InRelease
Get:9 http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org buster/2.8-rtpreempt amd64 Packages 
[117 kB]

Ign:8 https://dl.bintray.com/etcher/debian stable InRelease
Get:10 https://dl.bintray.com/etcher/debian stable Release [3,674 B]
Fetched 159 kB in 9s (18.5 kB/s)
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
2 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.

john@d10cave:~$ sudo apt install linuxcnc-uspace
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  linuxcnc-doc-en
Recommended packages:
  python-rsvg hostmot2-firmware-all
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  linuxcnc-doc-en linuxcnc-uspace
0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
Need to get 28.4 MB of archives.
After this operation, 70.4 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Get:1 http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org buster/2.8-rtpreempt amd64 
linuxcnc-doc-en all 1:2.8.0.38.gfa4abe056 [17.1 MB]
Get:2 http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org buster/2.8-rtpreempt amd64 
linuxcnc-uspace amd64 1:2.8.0.38.gfa4abe056 [11.3 MB]

Fetched 28.4 MB in 40s (706 kB/s)
Selecting previously unselected package linuxcnc-doc-en.
(Reading database ... 481749 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../linuxcnc-doc-en_1%3a2.8.0.38.gfa4abe056_all.deb ...
Unpacking linuxcnc-doc-en (1:2.8.0.38.gfa4abe056) ...
Selecting previously unselected package linuxcnc-uspace.
Preparing to unpack 
.../linuxcnc-uspace_1%3a2.8.0.38.gfa4abe056_amd64.deb ...

Unpacking linuxcnc-uspace (1:2.8.0.38.gfa4abe056) ...
Setting up linuxcnc-doc-en (1:2.8.0.38.gfa4abe056) ...
Setting up linuxcnc-uspace (1:2.8.0.38.gfa4abe056) ...
Processing triggers for mime-support (3.62) ...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme (0.17-2) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.28-10) ...
Processing triggers for systemd (241-7~deb10u4) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.8.5-2) ...
Processing triggers for shared-mime-info (1.10-1) ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.23-4) ...

Sadly the menu items are still in Other.

JT

On 9/16/20 6:06 AM, andy pugh wrote:

I pushed a fix for the CNC.menu typo last night, so you could try the
builbot debs.

But it is probably easier to edit /etc/xdg/menus/application-combined/CNC.menu

(path from memory)





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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[andy pugh]

I pushed a fix for the CNC.menu typo last night, so you could try the
builbot debs.

But it is probably easier to edit /etc/xdg/menus/application-combined/CNC.menu

(path from memory)


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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[John]

john@d10cave:~$ cd emc
john@d10cave:~/emc$ git branch
* 2.8
  master
john@d10cave:~/emc$ git pull
Already up to date.
john@d10cave:~/emc$ debian/configure uspace
successfully configured for 'uspace-Debian-10'-'uspace'..
john@d10cave:~/emc$ debuild -uc -us
 dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -ui
...

john@d10cave:~$ ls
 linuxcnc
 linuxcnc_2.8.0_amd64.build
 linuxcnc_2.8.0_amd64.buildinfo
 linuxcnc_2.8.0_amd64.changes
 linuxcnc_2.8.0.dsc
 linuxcnc_2.8.0.tar.xz
 linuxcnc_debug.txt
 linuxcnc-doc-cn_2.8.0_all.deb
 linuxcnc-doc-en_2.8.0_all.deb
 linuxcnc-doc-es_2.8.0_all.deb
 linuxcnc-doc-fr_2.8.0_all.deb
 linuxcnc_print.txt
 linuxcnc-uspace_2.8.0_amd64.deb
 linuxcnc-uspace-dbgsym_2.8.0_amd64.deb
 linuxcnc-uspace-dev_2.8.0_amd64.deb
john@d10cave:~$ sudo dpkg -i linuxcnc-uspace-dev_2.8.0_amd64.deb
[sudo] password for john:
Selecting previously unselected package linuxcnc-uspace-dev.
(Reading database ... 485753 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack linuxcnc-uspace-dev_2.8.0_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking linuxcnc-uspace-dev (1:2.8.0) ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linuxcnc-uspace-dev:
 linuxcnc-uspace-dev depends on python-serial; however:
  Package python-serial is not installed.

dpkg: error processing package linuxcnc-uspace-dev (--install):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Processing triggers for man-db (2.8.5-2) ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
 linuxcnc-uspace-dev
john@d10cave:~$ sudo dpkg -i linuxcnc-doc-en_2.8.0_all.deb
(Reading database ... 485995 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack linuxcnc-doc-en_2.8.0_all.deb ...
Unpacking linuxcnc-doc-en (1:2.8.0) over (1:2.8.0) ...
Setting up linuxcnc-doc-en (1:2.8.0) ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.23-4) ...
Processing triggers for mime-support (3.62) ...

All the menu items are in Other.

JT

On 9/15/20 3:09 PM, Håvard Flaget Aasen wrote:

tir. 15. sep. 2020 kl. 19:35 skrev andy pugh :

On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 20:18, Håvard Flaget Aasen
 wrote:


In the menu I have 10 entries in the "Other" category. No sub-category.

Is this close to what you were after Andy?

Well, it's the test I wanted, but not the result I was hoping for.

No CNC menu at all?

No, no CNC menu and no submenu for Documentation and G-Code reference.

I had a look at the file, there's a type there
https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/2.8/debian/extras/etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged/CNC.menu#L25

"t>" needs to be removed

Can someone with Mate desktop confirm that this fixes your menu? or
Mint if this issue was there as well? It's strange that it doesn't
affect all desktop environments.


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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[John]

Downloaded
http://www.linuxcnc.org/dists/buster/2.8-rtpreempt/binary-amd64/linuxcnc-uspace_2.8.0_amd64.deb

and
http://www.linuxcnc.org/dists/buster/2.8-rtpreempt/binary-amd64/linuxcnc-doc-en_2.8.0_all.deb

Used synaptic to remove linucnc-uspace and linuxchc-doc-en
Checked /usr/share/applications to make sure no files are left from last 
install


john@d10cave:~/Downloads/Software/EMC$ dpkg -L linuxcnc-doc-en
dpkg-query: package 'linuxcnc-doc-en' is not installed

Checked /etc/xdg/menus, .local /usr/applications for any files left from 
last install


john@d10cave:~/Downloads/Software/EMC/linuxcnc.org.dists$ ls
install-notes.txt  linuxcnc-doc-en_2.8.0_all.deb 
linuxcnc-uspace_2.8.0_amd64.deb
john@d10cave:~/Downloads/Software/EMC/linuxcnc.org.dists$ sudo dpkg -i 
linuxcnc-uspace_2.8.0_amd64.deb

[sudo] password for john:
Selecting previously unselected package linuxcnc-uspace.
(Reading database ... 481749 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack linuxcnc-uspace_2.8.0_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking linuxcnc-uspace (1:2.8.0) ...
Setting up linuxcnc-uspace (1:2.8.0) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.28-10) ...
Processing triggers for systemd (241-7~deb10u4) ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.23-4) ...
Processing triggers for mime-support (3.62) ...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme (0.17-2) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.8.5-2) ...
Processing triggers for shared-mime-info (1.10-1) ...
john@d10cave:~/Downloads/Software/EMC/linuxcnc.org.dists$ sudo dpkg -i 
linuxcnc-doc-en_2.8.0_all.deb

Selecting previously unselected package linuxcnc-doc-en.
(Reading database ... 485742 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack linuxcnc-doc-en_2.8.0_all.deb ...
Unpacking linuxcnc-doc-en (1:2.8.0) ...
Setting up linuxcnc-doc-en (1:2.8.0) ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.23-4) ...
Processing triggers for mime-support (3.62) ...

All menu items are in Other.

JT

On 9/15/20 9:50 AM, andy pugh wrote:

On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 13:56, John  wrote:

I downloaded

http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/dists/buster/2.8-rtpreempt/binary-amd64/linuxcnc-uspace_2.8.0_amd64.deb

Is there any chance of doing a documented installation to see what happens?

(using www.linuxcnc.org/dists rather than buildbot.linuxcnc.org/dists)

I want to know if the actual release is broken, I don't care about the
buildbot.




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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

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On Tuesday 15 September 2020 15:34:00 andy pugh wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 20:18, Håvard Flaget Aasen
>
>  wrote:
> > In the menu I have 10 entries in the "Other" category. No
> > sub-category.
> >
> > Is this close to what you were after Andy?
>
> Well, it's the test I wanted, but not the result I was hoping for.
>
> No CNC menu at all?

I rarely use it, easier to up arrow to linuxcnc -l and hit enter.

Yes, the menu is there and works. But you have to then wade thru all the 
options.

Thanks Andy.

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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

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On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 22:14, andy pugh  wrote:

> So, do I need to release an 8.2.1?

2.8.1, of course.

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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

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On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 21:10, Håvard Flaget Aasen
 wrote:

> Can someone with Mate desktop confirm that this fixes your menu? or
> Mint if this issue was there as well? It's strange that it doesn't
> affect all desktop environments.

I just checked with a fresh install from the ISO and it's all fine.
The typo exists, but is ignored.

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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

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On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 21:10, Håvard Flaget Aasen
 wrote:
>

> I had a look at the file, there's a type there
> https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/2.8/debian/extras/etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged/CNC.menu#L25
>
> "t>" needs to be removed

That would probably do it :-(

So, do I need to release an 8.2.1?


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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[Håvard Flaget Aasen]

tir. 15. sep. 2020 kl. 19:35 skrev andy pugh :
>
> On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 20:18, Håvard Flaget Aasen
>  wrote:
>
> > In the menu I have 10 entries in the "Other" category. No sub-category.
> >
> > Is this close to what you were after Andy?
>
> Well, it's the test I wanted, but not the result I was hoping for.
>
> No CNC menu at all?

No, no CNC menu and no submenu for Documentation and G-Code reference.

I had a look at the file, there's a type there
https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/2.8/debian/extras/etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged/CNC.menu#L25

"t>" needs to be removed

Can someone with Mate desktop confirm that this fixes your menu? or
Mint if this issue was there as well? It's strange that it doesn't
affect all desktop environments.

>
> --
> atp
> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
> designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
> lunatics."
> — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[andy pugh]

On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 20:18, Håvard Flaget Aasen
 wrote:

> In the menu I have 10 entries in the "Other" category. No sub-category.
>
> Is this close to what you were after Andy?

Well, it's the test I wanted, but not the result I was hoping for.

No CNC menu at all?

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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[Håvard Flaget Aasen]

tir. 15. sep. 2020 kl. 14:51 skrev andy pugh :
>
> On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 13:56, John  wrote:
> >
> > I downloaded
> >
> > http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/dists/buster/2.8-rtpreempt/binary-amd64/linuxcnc-uspace_2.8.0_amd64.deb
>
> Is there any chance of doing a documented installation to see what happens?
>
> (using www.linuxcnc.org/dists rather than buildbot.linuxcnc.org/dists)
>
> I want to know if the actual release is broken, I don't care about the
> buildbot.


Fresh install on a VM, Debian Stretch with Mate, ssh and standard
utilities, from the official Debian iso.

After logging in the first time, these were the command i used

$ sudo apt update
$ sudo apt install dirmngr
$ sudo apt-key adv --keyserver hkp://keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 3cb9fd148f374fef
$ echo deb http://linuxcnc.org/ stretch base 2.8-rtpreempt | sudo tee
-a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/linuxcnc.list
$ sudo apt update
$ sudo apt install linuxcnc-uspace

I confirmed which packages was installed:
$ apt list linuxcnc-* --installed
linuxcnc-doc-en/linuxcnc,now 1:2.8.0 all [installed]
linuxcnc-uspace/linuxcnc,now 1:2.8.0 amd64 [installed]

In the menu I have 10 entries in the "Other" category. No sub-category.



Is this close to what you were after Andy?

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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[andy pugh]

On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 13:56, John  wrote:
>
> I downloaded
>
> http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/dists/buster/2.8-rtpreempt/binary-amd64/linuxcnc-uspace_2.8.0_amd64.deb

Is there any chance of doing a documented installation to see what happens?

(using www.linuxcnc.org/dists rather than buildbot.linuxcnc.org/dists)

I want to know if the actual release is broken, I don't care about the
buildbot.

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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[John]

I downloaded

http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/dists/buster/2.8-rtpreempt/binary-amd64/linuxcnc-uspace_2.8.0_amd64.deb

and installed it with

sudo dpkg -i linuxcnc-uspace_2.8.0_amd64.deb

No CNC menu and the menu items are in the Other menu.

Then I installed with dpkg

http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/dists/buster/2.8-rtpreempt/binary-amd64/linuxcnc-doc-en_2.8.0_all.deb

and it added the User Manual EN to Other.

JT

On 9/15/20 6:46 AM, andy pugh wrote:

And I still need to know if the problem is with buildbot only, or with
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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[John]

In the past gdebi has been more successful at resolving dependencies

On 9/15/20 7:30 AM, andy pugh wrote:

On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 13:32, John  wrote:


Is the released version a deb I can install with gdebi or are you
talking about the linuxcnc-2.8.0-buster.iso?

Why use gdebi? You should be able to use apt (or synaptic)

But, yes, the debs are all in www.linuxcnc.org/dists





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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[John]

Do you mean test this deb

http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/dists/buster/2.8-rtpreempt/binary-amd64/linuxcnc-uspace_2.8.0_amd64.deb

JT

On 9/15/20 6:46 AM, andy pugh wrote:

On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 12:28, John  wrote:


wget
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/pygtksourceview/python-gtksourceview2_2.10.1-3_amd64.deb
sudo gdebi python-gtksourceview2_2.10.1-3_amd64.deb

This shouldn't be necessary, we are backporting python-gtksourceview2
on the LinuxCNC repo.


sudo apt install linuxcnc-uspace

Interesting there are some mozo-made-n.desktop files in
~/.local/share/applications which look to be the old files.

Can you delete the ones in ~/.local ? LinuxCNC should be installing
them in /usr/share.

And I still need to know if the problem is with buildbot only, or with
the released version too.




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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[andy pugh]

On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 13:32, John  wrote:

> Is the released version a deb I can install with gdebi or are you
> talking about the linuxcnc-2.8.0-buster.iso?

Why use gdebi? You should be able to use apt (or synaptic)

But, yes, the debs are all in www.linuxcnc.org/dists


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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[John]

I deleted all the files in .local/share/applications related to LinuxCNC 
but either I missed one or one got installed I'll have to check.


In any case now all the menu items are in Other.

Is the released version a deb I can install with gdebi or are you 
talking about the linuxcnc-2.8.0-buster.iso?


JT

On 9/15/20 6:46 AM, andy pugh wrote:

On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 12:28, John  wrote:


wget
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/pygtksourceview/python-gtksourceview2_2.10.1-3_amd64.deb
sudo gdebi python-gtksourceview2_2.10.1-3_amd64.deb

This shouldn't be necessary, we are backporting python-gtksourceview2
on the LinuxCNC repo.


sudo apt install linuxcnc-uspace

Interesting there are some mozo-made-n.desktop files in
~/.local/share/applications which look to be the old files.

Can you delete the ones in ~/.local ? LinuxCNC should be installing
them in /usr/share.

And I still need to know if the problem is with buildbot only, or with
the released version too.




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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[andy pugh]

On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 12:28, John  wrote:

> wget
> http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/pygtksourceview/python-gtksourceview2_2.10.1-3_amd64.deb
> sudo gdebi python-gtksourceview2_2.10.1-3_amd64.deb

This shouldn't be necessary, we are backporting python-gtksourceview2
on the LinuxCNC repo.

> sudo apt install linuxcnc-uspace
>
> Interesting there are some mozo-made-n.desktop files in
> ~/.local/share/applications which look to be the old files.

Can you delete the ones in ~/.local ? LinuxCNC should be installing
them in /usr/share.

And I still need to know if the problem is with buildbot only, or with
the released version too.

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designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[John]

I did the following

sudo apt-key adv --keyserver hkp://keys.gnupg.net --recv-key E0EE663E
sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ buster 
2.8-rtpreempt"

sudo apt update
wget 
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/pygtksourceview/python-gtksourceview2_2.10.1-3_amd64.deb

sudo gdebi python-gtksourceview2_2.10.1-3_amd64.deb
sudo apt install linuxcnc-uspace

Interesting there are some mozo-made-n.desktop files in 
~/.local/share/applications which look to be the old files.


#!/usr/bin/env xdg-open

[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Type=Application
Terminal=false
Icon=linuxcncicon
Icon[en_US]=linuxcncicon
Name[en_US]=Documents
Exec=/usr/bin/see /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Documentation.pdf
Name=Documents
Hidden=true

john@d10cave:~/.local/share/applications$ ls -l linuxcnc*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 john john 252 Sep 15 05:12 linuxcnc.desktop
-rw-r--r-- 1 john john 344 Sep 15 05:03 linuxcnc-documentation.desktop
-rwxr-xr-x 1 john john 333 Sep 15 05:12 linuxcnc-gcoderef.desktop
-rwxr-xr-x 1 john john 330 Jul 22  2019 linuxcnc-gcoderef-vi.desktop
-rw-r--r-- 1 john john 385 Sep 15 05:02 linuxcnc-gettingstarted.desktop
-rw-r--r-- 1 john john 380 Sep 15 05:04 linuxcnc-integratorinfo.desktop
-rwxr-xr-x 1 john john 267 Sep 15 05:12 linuxcnc-latency.desktop
-rw-r--r-- 1 john john 322 Sep 15 05:03 linuxcnc-manualpages.desktop
-rwxr-xr-x 1 john john 274 Sep 15 05:12 linuxcnc-pncconf.desktop
-rwxr-xr-x 1 john john 265 Sep 15 05:12 linuxcnc-stepconf.desktop

On 9/15/20 6:11 AM, andy pugh wrote:

On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 11:48, John  wrote:


sudo apt install linuxcnc-uspace

Now no menu items show up anywhere.

None at all? No CNC menu, no LinuxCNC application in any menu?

Is that installing from www or from buildbot?




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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[andy pugh]

On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 11:48, John  wrote:

> sudo apt install linuxcnc-uspace
>
> Now no menu items show up anywhere.

None at all? No CNC menu, no LinuxCNC application in any menu?

Is that installing from www or from buildbot?

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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[John]

I removed LinuxCNC with Synaptic and right clicked on Applications and 
removed all the CNC menus then did


sudo apt clean

sudo apt install linuxcnc-uspace

Now no menu items show up anywhere.

Shut down and started the PC back up and still no menu items


Everything works from the terminal as expected.

JT



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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[John]

Yes, the links all work and after a few minutes of time I have manually 
copied them to the CNC menu.


JT

On 9/14/20 6:49 PM, andy pugh wrote:

On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 22:14, John  wrote:

  From the deian 10 pc

john@d10cave:~$ dpkg -L linuxcnc-doc-en
/.
/usr
/usr/share
/usr/share/applications
/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-documentation.desktop
/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-gettingstarted.desktop
/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-integratorinfo.desktop
/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-manualpages.desktop
/usr/share/doc
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Documentation.pdf
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Getting_Started.pdf
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Integrator.pdf
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Manual_Pages.pdf
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc-doc-en

So, the files are there.

I have no idea why the menu system isn't picking them up.

I assume that the links in "Other" work (ie open web pages and/or pdf docs?)




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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[andy pugh]

On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 22:14, John  wrote:
>
>  From the deian 10 pc
>
> john@d10cave:~$ dpkg -L linuxcnc-doc-en
> /.
> /usr
> /usr/share
> /usr/share/applications
> /usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-documentation.desktop
> /usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-gettingstarted.desktop
> /usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-integratorinfo.desktop
> /usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-manualpages.desktop
> /usr/share/doc
> /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc
> /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Documentation.pdf
> /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Getting_Started.pdf
> /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Integrator.pdf
> /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Manual_Pages.pdf
> /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc-doc-en

So, the files are there.

I have no idea why the menu system isn't picking them up.

I assume that the links in "Other" work (ie open web pages and/or pdf docs?)

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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[John]

From the deian 10 pc

john@d10cave:~$ dpkg -L linuxcnc-doc-en
/.
/usr
/usr/share
/usr/share/applications
/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-documentation.desktop
/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-gettingstarted.desktop
/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-integratorinfo.desktop
/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-manualpages.desktop
/usr/share/doc
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Documentation.pdf
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Getting_Started.pdf
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Integrator.pdf
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Manual_Pages.pdf
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc-doc-en
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc-doc-en/changelog.gz
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc-doc-en/copyright

JT

On 9/14/20 8:14 AM, andy pugh wrote:

On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 12:45, John  wrote:

in /usr/share/applications I see the following desktop files for LinuxCNC

G-Code Quick Reference - EN
G-Code Quick Reference - VI
Latency Test
LinuxCNC
Manual Pages
Pncconf Wizard
Stepconf Wizard

And do you see those menu items?

The package contains the following files, do they exist on your system
after an install?

andypugh@rm-one:~$ dpkg -L linuxcnc-doc-en
/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-documentation.desktop
/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-gettingstarted.desktop
/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-integratorinfo.desktop
/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-manualpages.desktop
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Documentation.pdf
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Getting_Started.pdf
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Integrator.pdf
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Manual_Pages.pdf
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc-doc-en
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc-doc-en/changelog.gz
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc-doc-en/copyright


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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 15:51, John  wrote:

> /usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-documentation.desktop
> /usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-gettingstarted.desktop
> /usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-integratorinfo.desktop

So they are in the deb file, but are not installed by the deb.

That's annoying.

Exactly what command do you use to install the docs package?

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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[andy pugh]

On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 15:30, Ernesto Lo Valvo  wrote:

> Also, the .zip file at
> https://www.linuxcnc.org/iso/linuxcnc-2.8.0-pi4.zip
>
> contains 2 identical files

That should be fixed as of this morning.

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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

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On Monday 14 September 2020 10:42:49 John wrote:

> john@d10cave:~$ ls -l /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc*
> /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc:
> total 17840
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  879 Sep 11 01:16 AUTHORS
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  506 Sep 11 01:16 axis_light_background
> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Sep 12 06:13 examples
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root    12943 Sep 11 01:16 gcode_es.html
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root    17261 Sep 11 01:16 gcode_fr.html
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root    12429 Sep 11 01:16 gcode.html
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root    13549 Sep 11 01:16 gcode_vi.html
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16702274 Sep 11 01:16
> LinuxCNC_Documentation.pdf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   358912 Sep 11
> 01:16 LinuxCNC_Getting_Started.pdf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   139613 Sep
> 11 01:16 LinuxCNC_Integrator.pdf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   940906 Sep
> 11 01:16 LinuxCNC_Manual_Pages.pdf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2417 Sep
> 11 01:16 NEWS.gz
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1529 Sep 11 01:16 README.axis
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2942 Sep 11 01:16 README.gz
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root    14154 Sep 11 01:16 tklinuxcnc.txt
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4517 Sep 11 01:16 UPDATING.gz
>
> /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc-doc-en:
> total 40
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31579 Sep 11 01:16 changelog.gz
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  4106 Aug 21 13:12 copyright
>
> /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc-uspace:
> total 40
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31579 Sep 11 01:16 changelog.gz
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  4106 Aug 21 13:12 copyright
>
> The following are not there
>
> /usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-documentation.desktop
> /usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-gettingstarted.desktop
> /usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-integratorinfo.desktop
>
> JT

They are here John, from the buildbots debs, and locally built debs as on 
the rpi4 are there also.

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john@d10cave:~$ ls -l /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc*
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc:
total 17840
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  879 Sep 11 01:16 AUTHORS
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  506 Sep 11 01:16 axis_light_background
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Sep 12 06:13 examples
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    12943 Sep 11 01:16 gcode_es.html
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    17261 Sep 11 01:16 gcode_fr.html
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    12429 Sep 11 01:16 gcode.html
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    13549 Sep 11 01:16 gcode_vi.html
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16702274 Sep 11 01:16 LinuxCNC_Documentation.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   358912 Sep 11 01:16 LinuxCNC_Getting_Started.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   139613 Sep 11 01:16 LinuxCNC_Integrator.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   940906 Sep 11 01:16 LinuxCNC_Manual_Pages.pdf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2417 Sep 11 01:16 NEWS.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1529 Sep 11 01:16 README.axis
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2942 Sep 11 01:16 README.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    14154 Sep 11 01:16 tklinuxcnc.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4517 Sep 11 01:16 UPDATING.gz

/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc-doc-en:
total 40
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31579 Sep 11 01:16 changelog.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  4106 Aug 21 13:12 copyright

/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc-uspace:
total 40
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31579 Sep 11 01:16 changelog.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  4106 Aug 21 13:12 copyright

The following are not there

/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-documentation.desktop
/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-gettingstarted.desktop
/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-integratorinfo.desktop

JT

On 9/14/20 9:07 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:

On Monday 14 September 2020 09:14:08 andy pugh wrote:


On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 12:45, John  wrote:

in /usr/share/applications I see the following desktop files for
LinuxCNC

G-Code Quick Reference - EN
G-Code Quick Reference - VI
Latency Test
LinuxCNC
Manual Pages
Pncconf Wizard
Stepconf Wizard

And do you see those menu items?

The package contains the following files, do they exist on your system
after an install?

andypugh@rm-one:~$ dpkg -L linuxcnc-doc-en
/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-documentation.desktop
/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-gettingstarted.desktop
/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-integratorinfo.desktop
/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-manualpages.desktop
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Documentation.pdf
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Getting_Started.pdf
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Integrator.pdf
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Manual_Pages.pdf
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc-doc-en
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc-doc-en/changelog.gz
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc-doc-en/copyright


Following this thread, I note that only on the pi, are the file dates
over a year old, but if the .pdf is looked at, it is the currently built
pdf, carrying a file date from an ls -l of june 19 2019. File system
diffs? IDK.

Now I DO know, in deference to the life of the sd card, / is mounted
noatime.  No real problem, sorry for the noise


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[Ernesto Lo Valvo]

I wanted to report that the version of LinuxCNC present at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/dists/buster/master-rtpreempt/binary-armhf/

with the Raspberry PI 4 (2gb and 4gb) shows this error message:

pi@raspberrypi:~ $ halrun
halcmd: loadrt hal_pi_gpio
Note: Using POSIX realtime
unrecognized Raspberry revision, see /proc/cpuinfo
hal_pi_gpio: rtapi_app_main: Invalid argument (-22)
:1: waitpid failed /usr/bin/rtapi_app hal_pi_gpio
:1: /usr/bin/rtapi_app exited without becoming ready
:1: insmod for hal_pi_gpio failed, returned -1
halcmd: Note: Using POSIX realtime


Also, the .zip file at
https://www.linuxcnc.org/iso/linuxcnc-2.8.0-pi4.zip

contains 2 identical files with the name:

1)  2020-09-08-linuxcnc-2.8.0-pi4.img
2)  linuxcnc-2.8.0-pi4.img

Instead, in this version the hal_pi_gpio module works correctly.

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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 14 September 2020 09:14:08 andy pugh wrote:

> On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 12:45, John  wrote:
> > in /usr/share/applications I see the following desktop files for
> > LinuxCNC
> >
> > G-Code Quick Reference - EN
> > G-Code Quick Reference - VI
> > Latency Test
> > LinuxCNC
> > Manual Pages
> > Pncconf Wizard
> > Stepconf Wizard
>
> And do you see those menu items?
>
> The package contains the following files, do they exist on your system
> after an install?
>
> andypugh@rm-one:~$ dpkg -L linuxcnc-doc-en
> /usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-documentation.desktop
> /usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-gettingstarted.desktop
> /usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-integratorinfo.desktop
> /usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-manualpages.desktop
> /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Documentation.pdf
> /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Getting_Started.pdf
> /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Integrator.pdf
> /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Manual_Pages.pdf
> /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc-doc-en
> /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc-doc-en/changelog.gz
> /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc-doc-en/copyright
>
Following this thread, I note that only on the pi, are the file dates 
over a year old, but it the .pdf is looked at, it is the currently built 
pdf, carrying a file date from an ls -l of june 19 2019. File system 
diffs? IDK.
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> designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
> lunatics."
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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 14 September 2020 09:14:08 andy pugh wrote:

> On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 12:45, John  wrote:
> > in /usr/share/applications I see the following desktop files for
> > LinuxCNC
> >
> > G-Code Quick Reference - EN
> > G-Code Quick Reference - VI
> > Latency Test
> > LinuxCNC
> > Manual Pages
> > Pncconf Wizard
> > Stepconf Wizard
>
> And do you see those menu items?
>
> The package contains the following files, do they exist on your system
> after an install?
>
> andypugh@rm-one:~$ dpkg -L linuxcnc-doc-en
> /usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-documentation.desktop
> /usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-gettingstarted.desktop
> /usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-integratorinfo.desktop
> /usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-manualpages.desktop
> /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Documentation.pdf
> /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Getting_Started.pdf
> /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Integrator.pdf
> /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Manual_Pages.pdf
> /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc-doc-en
> /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc-doc-en/changelog.gz
> /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc-doc-en/copyright
>
Following this thread, I note that only on the pi, are the file dates 
over a year old, but if the .pdf is looked at, it is the currently built 
pdf, carrying a file date from an ls -l of june 19 2019. File system 
diffs? IDK.  

Now I DO know, in deference to the life of the sd card, / is mounted 
noatime.  No real problem, sorry for the noise

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> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
> designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
> lunatics."
> — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[andy pugh]

On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 12:45, John  wrote:
>
> in /usr/share/applications I see the following desktop files for LinuxCNC
>
> G-Code Quick Reference - EN
> G-Code Quick Reference - VI
> Latency Test
> LinuxCNC
> Manual Pages
> Pncconf Wizard
> Stepconf Wizard

And do you see those menu items?

The package contains the following files, do they exist on your system
after an install?

andypugh@rm-one:~$ dpkg -L linuxcnc-doc-en
/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-documentation.desktop
/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-gettingstarted.desktop
/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-integratorinfo.desktop
/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-manualpages.desktop
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Documentation.pdf
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Getting_Started.pdf
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Integrator.pdf
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/LinuxCNC_Manual_Pages.pdf
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc-doc-en
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc-doc-en/changelog.gz
/usr/share/doc/linuxcnc-doc-en/copyright


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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[John]

in /usr/share/applications I see the following desktop files for LinuxCNC

G-Code Quick Reference - EN
G-Code Quick Reference - VI
Latency Test
LinuxCNC
Manual Pages
Pncconf Wizard
Stepconf Wizard

JT

On 9/14/20 5:51 AM, andy pugh wrote:

On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 10:59, John  wrote:

My debian 10 pc


How about the .desktop files? ( usr/share/applications IIRC)




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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

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On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 10:59, John  wrote:
>
> My debian 10 pc
>
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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[John]

My debian 10 pc

http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/menu-spec/menu-1.0.dtd";>

  Applications
  
    CNC
    linuxcnc-cnc.directory
    
        X-CNC
    
    
        G-Code Quick-Reference
        linuxcnc-ref.directory
        
        X-CNC-REF
        
    
    
        Documentation
        linuxcnc-doc.directory
        
            X-CNC-DOC
        
    
  t>


The debian 9 file is the same.

JT

On 9/14/20 3:44 AM, andy pugh wrote:

On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 at 20:16, John  wrote:

One is Debian 10 and was an upgrade from 2.8-pre the other pc is Debian
9 and it was a downgrade from 2.9-pre.

Do you have the menu file?
/etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged/CNC-menu


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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

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On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 at 20:16, John  wrote:
>
> One is Debian 10 and was an upgrade from 2.8-pre the other pc is Debian
> 9 and it was a downgrade from 2.9-pre.

Do you have the menu file?
/etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged/CNC-menu


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[John]

One is Debian 10 and was an upgrade from 2.8-pre the other pc is Debian 
9 and it was a downgrade from 2.9-pre.


JT

On 9/13/20 10:49 AM, andy pugh wrote:

On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 at 14:45, John  wrote:

Yea I just looked and some on one pc is in Other and all on another pc
is in Other... very strange indeed

I just tried reinstalling the english docs on a live-image install,
and everything stayed where it was.
It's this file which is meant to pick the menu items out:
https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/2.8/share/menus/CNC.menu.in
It used X-CNC-DOC etc in the Categories to find them.

Are all the failing test machines running Buster?




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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[andy pugh]

On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 at 14:45, John  wrote:
>
> Yea I just looked and some on one pc is in Other and all on another pc
> is in Other... very strange indeed

I just tried reinstalling the english docs on a live-image install,
and everything stayed where it was.
It's this file which is meant to pick the menu items out:
https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/2.8/share/menus/CNC.menu.in
It used X-CNC-DOC etc in the Categories to find them.

Are all the failing test machines running Buster?

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[John]

Yea I just looked and some on one pc is in Other and all on another pc 
is in Other... very strange indeed


JT

On 9/12/20 1:54 PM, Robert Murphy wrote:

I've just seen the same with the packages in my Mint repo.

For some reason the docs are in "Other". This is on Mint 19.2 XFCE

On 13/9/20 4:49 am, John Thornton wrote:

I would assume that all the desktops that are available for Debian use
the same standard.

JT

On 9/12/2020 9:37 AM, andy pugh wrote:

On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 15:25, John  wrote:

Booting from the livedvd the menus are interestingly different than in
the past. Documentation leads to a large list of all documents, quite
impressive but perhaps that trickery only works with the XFCE
desktop. I
only use Mate.

It's done according to the FreeDesktop specification, which is a
requirement of Debian standard 3.9.8




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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[Robert Murphy]

I've just seen the same with the packages in my Mint repo.

For some reason the docs are in "Other". This is on Mint 19.2 XFCE

On 13/9/20 4:49 am, John Thornton wrote:

I would assume that all the desktops that are available for Debian use
the same standard.

JT

On 9/12/2020 9:37 AM, andy pugh wrote:

On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 15:25, John  wrote:

Booting from the livedvd the menus are interestingly different than in
the past. Documentation leads to a large list of all documents, quite
impressive but perhaps that trickery only works with the XFCE
desktop. I
only use Mate.

It's done according to the FreeDesktop specification, which is a
requirement of Debian standard 3.9.8




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[John Thornton]

I would assume that all the desktops that are available for Debian use 
the same standard.


JT

On 9/12/2020 9:37 AM, andy pugh wrote:

On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 15:25, John  wrote:

Booting from the livedvd the menus are interestingly different than in
the past. Documentation leads to a large list of all documents, quite
impressive but perhaps that trickery only works with the XFCE desktop. I
only use Mate.

It's done according to the FreeDesktop specification, which is a
requirement of Debian standard 3.9.8




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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[andy pugh]

On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 15:25, John  wrote:
>
> Booting from the livedvd the menus are interestingly different than in
> the past. Documentation leads to a large list of all documents, quite
> impressive but perhaps that trickery only works with the XFCE desktop. I
> only use Mate.

It's done according to the FreeDesktop specification, which is a
requirement of Debian standard 3.9.8

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[John]

Booting from the livedvd the menus are interestingly different than in 
the past. Documentation leads to a large list of all documents, quite 
impressive but perhaps that trickery only works with the XFCE desktop. I 
only use Mate.


JT

On 9/12/20 8:59 AM, andy pugh wrote:

On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 14:08, John  wrote:

On a debian 9 pc I lose the entire cnc menu...

What do you get with a download from www.linuxcnc.org/ ? (ie the
released 2.8 version)

(I am trying to gauge to what extent I need to panic)




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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[andy pugh]

On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 14:08, John  wrote:
>
> On a debian 9 pc I lose the entire cnc menu...

What do you get with a download from www.linuxcnc.org/ ? (ie the
released 2.8 version)

(I am trying to gauge to what extent I need to panic)

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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[John]

On a debian 9 pc I lose the entire cnc menu...

JT

On 9/12/20 6:51 AM, andy pugh wrote:

On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 12:19, John  wrote:

When I upgraded the docs from 2.8 pre to 2.8.0 they disappeared from the
menu. I uninstalled and reinstalled and still no Documentation entry in
any menu.

English docs presumably? Do you get anything if you install the Spanish docs?




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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 Install from Buildbot

[John]

Yes the en docs and no after adding the es docs they still are missing 
from the menu


JT

On 9/12/20 6:51 AM, andy pugh wrote:

On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 12:19, John  wrote:

When I upgraded the docs from 2.8 pre to 2.8.0 they disappeared from the
menu. I uninstalled and reinstalled and still no Documentation entry in
any menu.

English docs presumably? Do you get anything if you install the Spanish docs?




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On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 12:19, John  wrote:
>
> When I upgraded the docs from 2.8 pre to 2.8.0 they disappeared from the
> menu. I uninstalled and reinstalled and still no Documentation entry in
> any menu.

English docs presumably? Do you get anything if you install the Spanish docs?

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[John]

When I upgraded the docs from 2.8 pre to 2.8.0 they disappeared from the 
menu. I uninstalled and reinstalled and still no Documentation entry in 
any menu.


JT



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