RE: EU Requirements for PSTN Equipment
Robert, We (CETECOM)are a Notified Body under the R&TTE. You will find a lot of information here http://www.cetecom.com/ R&TTE => News Best Regards Lothar Schmidt Technical Manager EMC/Bluetooth, BQB, Competent Body Cetecom Inc. 411 Dixon Landing Road Milpitas, CA 95035 Phone: +1 (408) 586 6214 Fax: +1 (408) 586 6299 -Original Message- From: Loop, Robert [mailto:rl...@hnt.wylelabs.com] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 7:34 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: EU Requirements for PSTN Equipment Group: I need detailed information on (a) which standards would apply to test a switching device (similar to a PBX machine) that connects to the PSTN on a customer site under the R & TTE Directive (b) the process by which a manufacturer contacts a Notified Body in the EU for approval (c) where I can locate a list of Notified Bodies for said directive (d) is the manufacturer required to have their QA, manufacturing and design processes approved to EN 29003? My underlying assumption is that the product, which uses a cross-connect robot, would fall under the EMC, LVD and Machinery Directives also. My knowledge of the R & TTE Directive is limited. As always, one cannot be an expert in everything. My thanks to those who respond in advance. Sincerely, Robert Loop Engineering Supervisor Wyle Laboratories Product Safety ph - (256) 837-4411 x313 fax- (256) 721-0144 e-mail: rl...@hnt.wylelabs.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
EMI Room FIlter
Hi all, I'm looking for a filter to power the lights in my shield room... Something like: 10 to 20 amps @ 120 volts 60 Hz. Either dual channel or 2 filters, one for each phase. Anyone got spares? Thanks, Derek. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
EU Requirements for PSTN Equipment
Group: I need detailed information on (a) which standards would apply to test a switching device (similar to a PBX machine) that connects to the PSTN on a customer site under the R & TTE Directive (b) the process by which a manufacturer contacts a Notified Body in the EU for approval (c) where I can locate a list of Notified Bodies for said directive (d) is the manufacturer required to have their QA, manufacturing and design processes approved to EN 29003? My underlying assumption is that the product, which uses a cross-connect robot, would fall under the EMC, LVD and Machinery Directives also. My knowledge of the R & TTE Directive is limited. As always, one cannot be an expert in everything. My thanks to those who respond in advance. Sincerely, Robert Loop Engineering Supervisor Wyle Laboratories Product Safety ph - (256) 837-4411 x313 fax- (256) 721-0144 e-mail: rl...@hnt.wylelabs.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: Guam..Thanks again to all who responded - n/t
Antennas
> For those members of this group that might be interested, I am disposing > of some interesting EMI/EMC antennas. I have placed a short description > below and the link that you can find out more. > > 1.) Spiral Conical Antenna rated 1-10 GHz. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=372767481 > > 2.) Vintage Collins Radio Tunable Dipole Antennas with miscellaneous RF > probes. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=373798834 > > 3.) Another set of Vintage Collins Radio Tunable Dipole Antennas with > miscellaneous RF probes. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=373815782 > > 4.) Two EMCO 3146-DP Dual Polarized Log Periodic Antennas 200 MHz to 1 GHz > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=374446298 > > > Thanks, > > Jim > > Jim Wiese > Compliance Engineer > --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Antennas
> For those members of this group that might be interested, I am disposing > of some interesting EMI/EMC antennas. I have placed a short description > below and the link that you can find out more. > > 1.) Spiral Conical Antenna rated 1-10 GHz. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=372767481 > > 2.) Vintage Collins Radio Tunable Dipole Antennas with miscellaneous RF > probes. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=373798834 > > 3.) Another set of Vintage Collins Radio Tunable Dipole Antennas with > miscellaneous RF probes. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=373815782 > > 4.) Two EMCO 3146-DP Dual Polarized Log Periodic Antennas 200 MHz to 1 GHz > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=374446298 > > > Thanks, > > Jim > > Jim Wiese > Compliance Engineer > --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Number of ISDN and POTS Ports
Dear All, Could someone please lead me to a good website or resource for on number of ISDN and POTS lines per country/continent? Peter Merguerian Managing Director Product Testing Division I.T.L. (Product Testing) Ltd. Hacharoshet 26, POB 211 Or Yehuda 60251, Israel Tel: 972-3-5339022 Fax: 972-3-5339019 e-mail: pmerguer...@itl.co.il website: http://www.itl.co.il --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Looking for supplier of Sprague capacitors.
Anyone know of a distributer for Sprague capacitors in the UK or a phone/ website contact for Sprague. We are looking for 20 Sprague 10PS-P10 0.1 microF 1000 Vdc caps Thanks Eric. * Your best support in "TESTING" situations * * INTERTest Systems UK * * International Product Certification * *ONE-STOP-SHOP for ALL testing * *PO Box 321 - Bucks HP9 1XJ - England * * ++44 (0)1494 673438 Fax 678868* * INTERTest Systems UK is the trading name of * * the test laboratory of E M Consulting Ltd. * --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Health and Safety Issues
Dear Group, I am trying to find some guidance regarding the maximum allowable weight of a product for a single person to self install. IEC950 and it's offspring (UL1950, EN60950, etc.) all quote that 18kg is the maximum weight for a moveable piece of equipment. However IT products such as laser printers can weigh more than 18kg. Is it the manufacturers responsibility to advise the purchaser that a product weighs xx kg and therefore 2 people are required to lift the product out of the box? Also does this vary from country to country. Thanks Tony Reynolds Pitney Bowes Ltd Tel (01279) 449479 Fax (01279) 449118 E-Mail: reyno...@pb.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
VDE plugs for all EU participating countries
Dear All, I have heard that all EU participating countries have accepted VDE plugs (Europlug for 2.5A and Schuko plug for 15A) except the U.K. although each country may have its own style of plug. Anyone know if it is the case? Thanks, Raymond Li Dixons Asia Ltd. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: Cordset for EEC countries
Dear Nick and John, Thanks for your useful information about the adapter. I have heard a particular name for this adapter but now forget it. Do you have any idea? Best regards, Raymond == John Allen on 05/07/2000 04:48:22 p Please respond to John Allen To: Raymond Li/DixonsNotes@DixonsNotes, "'Nick Williams'" cc: "emc-p...@ieee.org" Subject: RE: Cordset for EEC countries Hi folks As a point of interest: The EN for the 2-pin flat profile european plug is EN 50075: 1991 " Specification for flat non-rewirable two-pole plugs, 2.5A 250V, with cord, for the connection of class II equipment for household and similar purposes" - "(Applies to plugs without earthing contacts. For indoor use as they have no special protection against ingress of water)" (Quoted from 1999 BSI Catalogue). Presumably, being a 2.5A plug, the cable core size is no larger than 0.75 sq mm, and the fuse in the adaptor thus should be no larger than 6A (being the general rating for this size of cord) but could be up to 16A since the plug is designed to be used on Continental European distribution systems where local protection is generally a 16A fuse or circuit breaker. However for UK use, the "standard" BS 1362 fuse ratings are 3A & 13A (although a range of other ratings does exist, but only 5A and 10A are in common circulation for replacement purposes). I would think that the 3A is the most appropriate in most instances for UK use. The above is the plug for which the adaptors to fit British sockets are designed, but the phrase "Europlug" has informally been applied to a wide variety of plugs, and some of these are the old CEE 7 dual earthing contact types (can't remember the CEE 7 Standard Sheet numbers as it is so long ago that I looked at the standard!) which have an essentially round cross-section. The new adaptors cannot accomodate the plugs with earthing contacts! Regards John Allen -- From: Nick Williams[SMTP:nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk] Sent: 04 July 2000 21:58 To: raymond...@dixonsasia.com.hk Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Cordset for EEC countries At 15:09 +0800 4/7/2000, raymond...@dixonsasia.com.hk wrote: >In order to sell a product to all EEC countries, more and more companies are >using a UK 13A plug adapter which takes a Europlug cordset in their products. >The plug adapter is approved by BSI or ASTA, fitted with a BS1362 3A fuse and >marked to use with CEE 7/16 EuropIug. I have a couple of queries and seeking >advice from this group. > >1. Is there any particular requirement/standard for individual or complete >component? If by this you mean is there a standard for the adapter, the answer is yes, it is BS 5733:1995 Specification for general requirements for electrical accessories. In the UK the appropriate standard for the cable would be BS 6500:1994 Specification for insulated flexible cords and cables (which is the UK implementation of a number of CENELEC harmonisation documents). I'm not familiar enough with the non-UK plug standards to give you chapter and verse on this - IEC 83 defines the dimensions, but it is not a full test specification. Incidentally, I assume you are already aware that the plug adapter _must_ be approved? BSI and ASTA are not the only people who can do this - the DTI say any body Notified under the LVD can do it. (I'm not sure I agree with them, but that, in the context of this discussion, would be a digression.) > >2. What is definition of Europlug cordset? I have some samples which are in >fact of VDE approved cordset using in Germany. The two round pin plug, the >mains cord and the figure 8 plug are all approved by VDE at least. Some other >national agency marks are also marked on either plugs and cord. Is >it qualified >to meet Europlug cordset? As I mentioned earlier this week in a reply to another message on this forum, domestic plugs are outside the scope of the LVD so EU countries (and others, of course) are free to set down additional national requirements as they see fit. In practice I've never had trouble with a VDE marked cord set in any EU country. (This comment obviously only applies to two core cord sets- there are numerous three pin plug types.) >3. Does the figure 8 plug must have approval of BS 4491? Some >samples have BS >4491 mark on the plug but most of them do not have. However, all have VDE >approval mark on the plug. I doubt you will see any problems using a VDE cord set for this purpose in the UK so long as the cable has the mark. I would expect to see this on any cable with a VDE approval. Despite first appearances, cord-set selection is definitely a non-trivial matter. I assume that you're dealing with the UK retail market, in which case I'm very familiar with the sort of problems you face. To avoid clutter on EMC-PSTC, drop me a line direct if you need more help. Regards Nick. ---
