EU Directives for Locomotive Switching and Communications Systems
Does anyone know what Directives would apply the electronic switching control systems and communications systems used in railway systems. some of this equipment would be installed on the locomotive, some in a control center some in train stations. I would thin the LVD and EMC directives would apply or is there a directive specific to this type of equipment. Any communications systems that use the airways or PSTN would fall under the RTTE, but is there anything if the communications is via the rails. Thanks! Dave Clement DGC Approvals Consulting 829 Center St. Pembroke, MA 02359 P:781-294-0059 C:508-725-9689 mailto:david.clem...@verizon.net http://resumes.yahoo.com/dgc333/daveclement This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)
OK, I think we are back to where we started. Best Regards, Lou Lou Aiken, LaMer LLC 27109 Palmetto Drive Orange Beach, AL 36561 USA tel ++ 1 251 981 6786 fax ++ 1 251 981 3054 Cell ++ 1 251 979 4648 From: John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 3:41 PM Subject: Re: strange symbols (to me anyway) I read in !emc-pstc that Lou Aiken ai...@gulftel.com wrote (in 001701c2b5af$822a26e0$db8066d1@default) about 'strange symbols (to me anyway)' on Mon, 6 Jan 2003: I have no objection to the house and arrow symbol meaning indoor use only being made an official 417 symbol, but I can forsee no use for it. To inform people who don't, and can't be expected to, understand IP codes? -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)
I read in !emc-pstc that Hans Mellberg emcconsult...@yahoo.com wrote (in 20030106214810.5293.qm...@web40904.mail.yahoo.com) about 'strange symbols (to me anyway)' on Mon, 6 Jan 2003: Aren't we already using symbols not in 417 such as the Hazard Warning (exclamation in a triangle) which is an international(except US) road hazard sign? It's in ISO 7000 - no. 0434, and it DOESN'T mean 'read the instructions' as it is used in some editions of IEC 60950. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: Sun Beds
I read in !emc-pstc that David Sproul david.spr...@alexanderlynn.co.uk wrote (in lnepkcgaigehccdompbbmejecfaa.david.spr...@alexanderlynn.co.uk ) about 'Sun Beds' on Mon, 6 Jan 2003: Could someone please advise me on the appropriate EMC and Safety Standards to apply to domestic sun-beds for sale in Europe and the US. Have you looked at the BSI web site? -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)
Aren't we already using symbols not in 417 such as the Hazard Warning (exclamation in a triangle) which is an international(except US) road hazard sign? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)
On defense of the use of symbols: I haven't read every posting on this thread, but as I understand it, for the indoor use symbol, even the original poster has since stated that he was pretty sure what it meant. It seemed to me that his original question was mainly focussed on where it came from; i.e. he just wanted to confirm that it officially means no more and no less than what it seems to mean. Personally, IF/when a warning is required at all (separate issue!) I would much prefer a symbol than some small print in a language that I can't read. (And remember that even in developed areas including USA and EU, the functional literacy rate is significantly less than 100%.) best regards, glyn TUV Rheinland of North America, Inc. Product Safety -Quality Industrial Machinery Division (Chicago Office) Glyn R. Garside Senior Engineer 1945 Techny Rd, Unit 4 NORTHBROOK, IL 60062-5357, USA Tel (847)562-9888 ext 25 email ggars...@us.tuv.com http://www.us.tuv.com This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
IEC60950-21
All interested - IEC60950-21 (Information technology equipment - Safety - Part 21: Remote power feeding) was published in DEC2002. Abstract: This part of IEC60950 applies to information technology equipment intended to supply and receive operating power via a TELECOMMUNICATION NETWORK, where the voltage exceeds the limits for TNV CIRCUITS. This Part 21 of IEC60950 is intended to be used with IEC60950-1. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE Product Safety Manager Sanmina-SCI Homologation Services San Jose, CA peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
RE: strange symbols (to me anyway) and the winner is......... Wan Juan Foo or JBarnes
That indeed is the symbol Thank you. I'm at a remote location with connection speed of about 0 so I'll have to wait to look at what it means. I downloaded the 9th page first at your recommendation and will wait until I can get a better speed to do the rest. Thank you Gary From: Wan Juang Foo [mailto:f...@np.edu.sg] Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 7:47 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: strange symbols (to me anyway) John Barnes jrbar...@iglou.comwrote on 01/04/03 07:55 AM If you go tohttp://www.cellotape.com/contents.pdfpage 9, is symbol 139 the one that is on your wireless unit? This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)
John, I have no objection to the house and arrow symbol meaning indoor use only being made an official 417 symbol, but I can forsee no use for it. I would not want to disturb the IP scheme already in place using the IEC 60529 for Ingress Protection (IP). No marking is already established as meaning inadequate IP. There will be no improvement in understanding between the symbol and the IP marking because the use of one excludes the use of the other - or am I missing something? I am essentially satisfied - remembering that my experience is almost all limited to ITE and electronic sub-assemblies where someone following me is concerned with the enclosure. I am also in agreement with Rich Nute's earlier comment, So, it would seem to me that outdoor products should be identified; if not specifically identified for outdoor use, then the product is for indoor use. Lou Aiken, LaMer LLC 27109 Palmetto Drive Orange Beach, AL 36561 USA tel ++ 1 251 981 6786 fax ++ 1 251 981 3054 Cell ++ 1 251 979 4648 From: John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 3:00 PM Subject: Re: strange symbols (to me anyway) I read in !emc-pstc that Lou Aiken ai...@gulftel.com wrote (in 002701c2b402$6a322280$218066d1@default) about 'strange symbols (to me anyway)' on Sat, 4 Jan 2003: John, I didn't word that part very well. I don't know when the indoor use only SYMBOL came into use; that could be recently. I should have said the only justification I could find for using it, to satisfy a requirement in a standard, was eliminated in CEE transformer standards about 40 years ago. OK, That's clear now. My understanding of the proposal to include the 'house' symbol in IEC 60417 is that, even if the meaning of the symbol is not wholly self-evident, it is more likely to be understood than the current official designations like 'IP31' or 'IP40'. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Meeting location change: 14 January SCV EMC Society
Hello all, We have had to make a last minute change of venue for our meeting. We will NOT be meeting in building 27 as printed in the IEEE Grid. We will be meeting at the Applied Materials Bowers Cafe The address is 3090 Bowers Avenue, Santa Clara CA, just behind AMAT building 2. Building 2 (3100 Bowers)faces Bowers Avenue and is accessible by driveway. For a more detailed map, please check the EMC society website at www.scvemc.org or you may email me directly: t...@tncokenias.org Best regards Tom Cokenias T.N. Cokenias Consulting P.O. Box 1086 El Granada CA 94018 tel 650 726 1263 fax 650 302 0887 This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
RE: EN 60601-1-2/ EN 55022: 1998
EN 60601-1-2:2001 was just published in the OJ. The CENELEC web site has not been updated yet. Best Regards, Jim Jim Conrad, Convenor IEC SC62A/MT23 P.O. Box 25 Hamilton, MA 01936 U.S.A. E-mail: jc...@shore.net Phone: 978-468-3909 FAX: 978-468-1034 From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of ITL-EMC User Group Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 12:57 AM To: Emc-Pstc Group (E-mail) Subject: EN 60601-1-2/ EN 55022: 1998 Thanks to all who replied. I was pretty sure about EN 55022: 1998 but wanted to make sure. Anything about the new edition of IEC/EN 60601-1-2? David Shidlowsky Technical Writer EMC Laboratory ITL (Product Testing) Ltd. Kfar Bin Nun Israel Tel: +972-8-9797799 Fax: +972-8-9797702 Email: dav...@itl.co.il http://www.itl.co.il http://www.i-spec.com This e-mail message may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose, use, disseminate, distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment in any way. If you received this e-mail message in error, please return by forwarding the message and its attachments to the sender. -Original Message- From: ITL-EMC User Group Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 7:50 AM To: Emc-Pstc Group (E-mail) Subject: EN 60601-1-2/ EN 55022: 1998 Dear All, I have read in various places that the new edition of IEC/EN 60601-1-2 is in effect (FDA in the US). As yet, only EN 60601-1-2: 1993 is listed in the OJ (December 2002). Does anyone know when the new edition will be listed in the OJ and thus become official? Regarding EN 55022: 1998 + Amendment A1: 2000, I have also read that the application of this standard is being delayed. Does anyone have any information as to when it will become applicable? Thanks David Shidlowsky Technical Writer EMC Laboratory ITL (Product Testing) Ltd. Kfar Bin Nun Israel Tel: +972-8-9797799 Fax: +972-8-9797702 Email: dav...@itl.co.il http://www.itl.co.il http://www.i-spec.com This e-mail message may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose, use, disseminate, distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment in any way. If you received this e-mail message in error, please return by forwarding the message and its attachments to the sender. This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Sun Beds
Dear Group, A Happy and Prosperous New Year to you all. Could someone please advise me on the appropriate EMC and Safety Standards to apply to domestic sun-beds for sale in Europe and the US. Thank you all in anticipation, Best regards, David Sproul, Business Development Manager, Alexander Lynn Approvals Management Services
Re: EN 60601-1-2/ EN 55022: 1998
David, EN 60601-1-2:2001 (i.e. IEC 60601-1-2) was published in the Official Journal Dec 13, 2002 with reference to the MDD, i.e. it is now officially harmonized. The date of cessation of presumption of conformity by applying the superseded standard EN 60601-1-2:1993 has been set to 2004-11-01 (Nov. 1, 2004). Regards, Brent DeWitt Datex-Ohmeda Louisville, CO ITL-EMC User Group itl-...@itl.co.il@majordomo.ieee.org on 04-01-2003 10:46:59 PM Please respond to ITL-EMC User Group itl-...@itl.co.il Sent by: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org To: Emc-Pstc Group (E-mail) emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org cc: Subject: EN 60601-1-2/ EN 55022: 1998 Dear All, I have read in various places that the new edition of IEC/EN 60601-1-2 is in effect (FDA in the US). As yet, only EN 60601-1-2: 1993 is listed in the OJ (December 2002). Does anyone know when the new edition will be listed in the OJ and thus become official? Regarding EN 55022: 1998 + Amendment A1: 2000, I have also read that the application of this standard is being delayed. Does anyone have any information as to when it will become applicable? Thanks David Shidlowsky Technical Writer EMC Laboratory ITL (Product Testing) Ltd. Kfar Bin Nun Israel Tel: +972-8-9797799 Fax: +972-8-9797702 Email: dav...@itl.co.il http://www.itl.co.il http://www.i-spec.com This e-mail message may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose, use, disseminate, distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment in any way. If you received this e-mail message in error, please return by forwarding the message and its attachments to the sender. This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: DOCOPOCOSS?
Ian, Dates in the Official Journal of the European Communities (OJ) are in the form dd.mm.. John Barnes KS4GL, PE, NCE, ESDC Eng, SM IEEE dBi Corporation http://www.dbicorporation.com/ This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: DOCOPOCOSS?
I read in !emc-pstc that Gordon,Ian ian.gor...@edwards.boc.com wrote (in E1BA0362B28ED211A1E80008C71EA3060181920D@EXC_EAS01) about 'DOCOPOCOSS?' on Mon, 6 Jan 2003: In the link supplied below by Peter my concern is with EN61010-1. Will EN61010-1:1993 replace EN61010-1:1990 on 1/4/04? I would not think so; that's an 11 year transition period, which is highly improbable. Does the table show that after 1/4/04 the 2001 version must be used? That would be a normal 3-year transition period. May both the 1993 and 2001 versions be used concurrently after 1/4/04? Most unlikely. By the way, are the dates quoted in the OJ dd/mm/yy or mm/dd/yy? They *should* be (yy)yy-mm-dd, but it's very unlikely indeed that they are mm-dd-yy, unless someone has made a BIG mistake. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: EUROPEAN VOLTAGE HARMONISATION
I read in !emc-pstc that Gordon,Ian ian.gor...@edwards.boc.com wrote (in E1BA0362B28ED211A1E80008C71EA3060181920E@EXC_EAS01) about 'EUROPEAN VOLTAGE HARMONISATION' on Mon, 6 Jan 2003: Does anybody know what the planned European Voltage Harmonisation levels are (I think there is a change in tolerance) and when they will be introduced? 230 V +/- 10%. Some former '220 V' countries can't meet those limits yet and for them, only, conformity is extended to 2008. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: EUROPEAN VOLTAGE HARMONISATION
In message E1BA0362B28ED211A1E80008C71EA3060181920E@EXC_EAS01 Gordon,Ian writes: All Does anybody know what the planned European Voltage Harmonisation levels are (I think there is a change in tolerance) and when they will be introduced? Thanks Ian Gordon Ian, I reproduce below the section on this from the old s.e.e.c FAQ. Recently it has been announced that the final step due 1.1.2003 has been delayed, I'm not sure till when, possibly permanently. Additionally, from a safety point of view, the (UK) IEE made a recommendation in 1996 that All equipment designed for pan European distribution and for use after 2003 must be tested for safety over the range 230V +10% to -14% even though it may not be necessary for the equipment to work satisfactorily over this range. The low end of -14% was to allow for building voltage drops up to 4% in addition to the supply variations. Hope this helps. Bill -- Bill Lyons - b...@lyons.demon.co.uk / w.ly...@ieee.org 2.2.1 European Voltage Harmonisation ~~ The nominal European voltage is now 230V 50 Hz (formerly 240V in UK, 220V in the rest of Europe) but this does not mean there has been a real change in the supply. Instead, the new harmonised voltage limits in Europe are now: 230V -10% +6% (i.e. 207.0 - 243.8V) in most of Europe (the former 220V nominal countries), and 230V -6% +10% (i.e. 216.2 - 253.0V) in UK (former 240V nominal). This is really a fudge and means there is no real change of supply voltage, only a change in the label, with no incentive for electricity supply companies to actually change the supply voltage. To cope with both sets of limits an equipment will therefore need to cover 230V +/-10% i.e. 207-253V. This will actually become the official limit for the whole of the EU in 2003. This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
RE: DOCOPOCOSS?
Ian, Up to 1/4/2004 both standards - EN61010-1:1993 and EN61010-1:2001 - can be used for presumption of conformity to the essential requirements of the LVD. From 1/4/2004 , EN61010-1:2001 is the only standard that must be used to show compliance for products that are still put on the EU market from that date. Regards, Kris From: Gordon,Ian [mailto:ian.gor...@edwards.boc.com] Sent: maandag 6 januari 2003 11:57 To: 'IEEE EMC-PSTC GROUP' Cc: 'Peters, Michael' Subject: DOCOPOCOSS? All In the link supplied below by Peter my concern is with EN61010-1. Will EN61010-1:1993 replace EN61010-1:1990 on 1/4/04? Does the table show that after 1/4/04 the 2001 version must be used? May both the 1993 and 2001 versions be used concurrently after 1/4/04? By the way, are the dates quoted in the OJ dd/mm/yy or mm/dd/yy? LVD: Commission communication in the framework of the implementation of Council Directive 73/23/EEC - OJ C 317 of 2002-12-18 (this list replaces all the previous lists published in the Official Journal of the European Communities) http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/en/oj/2002/c_31720021218en.html Thanks Ian Gordon _ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by the WorldCom Internet Managed Scanning Service - powered by MessageLabs. For further information visit http://www.worldcom.com This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
EUROPEAN VOLTAGE HARMONISATION
All Does anybody know what the planned European Voltage Harmonisation levels are (I think there is a change in tolerance) and when they will be introduced? Thanks Ian Gordon _ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by the WorldCom Internet Managed Scanning Service - powered by MessageLabs. For further information visit http://www.worldcom.com This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
DOCOPOCOSS?
All In the link supplied below by Peter my concern is with EN61010-1. Will EN61010-1:1993 replace EN61010-1:1990 on 1/4/04? Does the table show that after 1/4/04 the 2001 version must be used? May both the 1993 and 2001 versions be used concurrently after 1/4/04? By the way, are the dates quoted in the OJ dd/mm/yy or mm/dd/yy? LVD: Commission communication in the framework of the implementation of Council Directive 73/23/EEC - OJ C 317 of 2002-12-18 (this list replaces all the previous lists published in the Official Journal of the European Communities) http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/en/oj/2002/c_31720021218en.html Thanks Ian Gordon _ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by the WorldCom Internet Managed Scanning Service - powered by MessageLabs. For further information visit http://www.worldcom.com This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
EN 60601-1-2/ EN 55022: 1998
Thanks to all who replied. I was pretty sure about EN 55022: 1998 but wanted to make sure. Anything about the new edition of IEC/EN 60601-1-2? David Shidlowsky Technical Writer EMC Laboratory ITL (Product Testing) Ltd. Kfar Bin Nun Israel Tel: +972-8-9797799 Fax: +972-8-9797702 Email: dav...@itl.co.il http://www.itl.co.il http://www.i-spec.com This e-mail message may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose, use, disseminate, distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment in any way. If you received this e-mail message in error, please return by forwarding the message and its attachments to the sender. -Original Message- From: ITL-EMC User Group Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 7:50 AM To: Emc-Pstc Group (E-mail) Subject: EN 60601-1-2/ EN 55022: 1998 Dear All, I have read in various places that the new edition of IEC/EN 60601-1-2 is in effect (FDA in the US). As yet, only EN 60601-1-2: 1993 is listed in the OJ (December 2002). Does anyone know when the new edition will be listed in the OJ and thus become official? Regarding EN 55022: 1998 + Amendment A1: 2000, I have also read that the application of this standard is being delayed. Does anyone have any information as to when it will become applicable? Thanks David Shidlowsky Technical Writer EMC Laboratory ITL (Product Testing) Ltd. Kfar Bin Nun Israel Tel: +972-8-9797799 Fax: +972-8-9797702 Email: dav...@itl.co.il http://www.itl.co.il http://www.i-spec.com This e-mail message may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose, use, disseminate, distribute, copy or rely upon this message or attachment in any way. If you received this e-mail message in error, please return by forwarding the message and its attachments to the sender. This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
