Re: EN 55022:1998 +Amendment A1:2000
Hello, On the last CISPR meeting Sept.2002, this case of direct plug-in equipmenut was discussed. In the current CISPR22/EN55022, to use AC extention cord is inhibited. But the direct plug-in equipmenut can not use the ferrite clump. The output of direct plug-in is DC, not AC. To use ferrite for DC within the EUT is not allowed. For an amendment, to use AC extention cord to add the ferrite only for direct plug-in equipmenut is proposed. Maybe it will be amended so in the near future. But, I personally think using ferrite cores to the EMI measurement is not good. Because, in the real use in the field, the user do not use ferrite cores. (To use ferrite cores is said to make reproducibility of the official measurement.) Masateru Tagami E-Mail: tag...@jp.fujitsu.com TEL: 81-44-754-2185, FAX: N/A From: John Barnes jrbar...@iglou.com To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 3:06 AM Subject: EN 55022:1998 +Amendment A1:2000 To the Group, Amendment A1:2000 to EN 55022:1998 becomes mandatory (has a DOCOPOCOSS of) August 1, 2003-- see http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/en/dat/2002/c_304/ c_30420021207en00020015.pdf For testing tabletop equipment, note 6 of Figure 10 says Mains cables, telephone lines or other connections to auxiliary equipment located outside the test area are to be fitted with ferrite clamps or ferrite tubes placed on the floor at the point where the cable reaches the floor. This note also says that No extension cords shall be used to mains receptacle. If we are testing a product with an AC line cord or a brick power supply, it is clear that we need to run the Radiated Emissions test with a ferrite clamp/tube on the line cord. But if we are testing a product that uses a wall wart direct plug-in power supply, do we need to bother with the ferrite clamps/tubes? My interpretation is that we don't, because the AC/DC cord from the wall wart is not a mains cable, nor a connection to auxiliary equipment located outside the test area. How do the rest of you interpret this requirement? Thanks! John Barnes KS4GL, PE, NCE, ESDC Eng, SM IEEE dBi Corporation http://www.dbicorporation.com/ --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Acoustic noise calculations for multiple shelves
Hello Group! Imagine you are going to install 20 small chassis (shelves) in one rack in Central Office. If you know your acoustic noise level from one chassis, is it any way to calculate total noise? Sorry, if it is not the smartest question. Please reply!!! Need an answer!!! Thanks, Mark Gandler Ciena This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Three Phase Power in Japan?
I understand that in some parts of Japan you will find 100V and 200V single phase in lieu of the standard 120V or 230V. Does this apply to three phase power as well? I have been told that Japan uses a strange three-phase open delta; four-wire, earthed mid-point of phase. This gives you 200V single phase or at most two phases of 200V or 100 volt single phase. Is anyone familiar with this system or is there a link somewhere that explains this. Thanks Rick Busche Evans Sutherland 600 Komas Drive Salt Lake City, Utah 84158 rbus...@es.com This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
RE: Fiber optic hazards level 3B US EU requirements
Zohar, I'm not familiar with that power level, but I am going to assume that you are going to have to know the wavelength of this thing as well. The permissible power output level for the smaller class 1's is dependant on the wavelength. I believe the reasoning is that the different wavelength effects different parts of the eye and the time for damage is different in these areas. Gary From: Juhasz, John (IndSys, GE Interlogix) [mailto:john.juh...@ge.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:16 AM To: zohar.zosmanov...@ecitele.com; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Fiber optic hazards level 3B US EU requirements Zohar, You need to comply with US Code For Regulations 21CFR1040 The Center for Devices and Radiological Health, an arm of the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) regulates this area. Here's a link that is useful. http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/comp/rad_consumer.html John A. Juhasz GE Interlogix Fiber Options Div. Bohemia, NY From: zohar.zosmanov...@ecitele.com [mailto:zohar.zosmanov...@ecitele.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 4:47 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Fiber optic hazards level 3B US EU requirements Hello, I have an ITE product consisting of fiber optic Transceiver 200mW output power. I'm not familiar with that type of equipment, but I know that the fiber optic should comply with IEC 60825-2. What are the requirements for US. Any information regarding the above subject is appreciated. This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: jurisdiction, overlap, and delegation in USA rules.
I read in !emc-pstc that Peter L. Tarver peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com wrote (in nebbkemlgllmjofmoplemebiedaa.peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com) about 'jurisdiction, overlap, and delegation in USA rules.' on Tue, 21 Jan 2003: That's what I meant by 'delegated' Except that there is no delegation. Rather, the case is one of supersession: municipal to county to state to federal, in that order. Generally, the higher level of government trumps the lower. However, a number of complaints and court cases have been brought by the lower governmental bodies against higher levels of government for treading on their jurisdiction where they have questionable legal basis to. OK, this is a semantic issue. IMHO, 'delegation' is the appropriate word if there is a written law that prescribes how authority is allocated. If, OTOH, it is a situation like English 'common law', which is not necessarily written as a statute but stems from tradition and case law, then 'supersession' may be the better word. I *think* that the autonomy of the US states is of that nature, the federal Constitution simply affirming what was already established. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: EN 55022:1998 +Amendment A1:2000
I read in !emc-pstc that John Barnes jrbar...@iglou.com wrote (in 3e2d8c13.7...@iglou.com) about 'EN 55022:1998 +Amendment A1:2000' on Tue, 21 Jan 2003: But if we are testing a product that uses a wall wart direct plug-in power supply, do we need to bother with the ferrite clamps/tubes? My interpretation is that we don't, because the AC/DC cord from the wall wart is not a mains cable, nor a connection to auxiliary equipment located outside the test area. How do the rest of you interpret this requirement? Put the clamp on the power cable that feeds whatever the wall-wart is plugged into. If you do not, the product may fail the test. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
EN 55022:1998 +Amendment A1:2000
To the Group, Amendment A1:2000 to EN 55022:1998 becomes mandatory (has a DOCOPOCOSS of) August 1, 2003-- see http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/en/dat/2002/c_304/ c_30420021207en00020015.pdf For testing tabletop equipment, note 6 of Figure 10 says Mains cables, telephone lines or other connections to auxiliary equipment located outside the test area are to be fitted with ferrite clamps or ferrite tubes placed on the floor at the point where the cable reaches the floor. This note also says that No extension cords shall be used to mains receptacle. If we are testing a product with an AC line cord or a brick power supply, it is clear that we need to run the Radiated Emissions test with a ferrite clamp/tube on the line cord. But if we are testing a product that uses a wall wart direct plug-in power supply, do we need to bother with the ferrite clamps/tubes? My interpretation is that we don't, because the AC/DC cord from the wall wart is not a mains cable, nor a connection to auxiliary equipment located outside the test area. How do the rest of you interpret this requirement? Thanks! John Barnes KS4GL, PE, NCE, ESDC Eng, SM IEEE dBi Corporation http://www.dbicorporation.com/ This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
RE: jurisdiction, overlap, and delegation in USA rules.
From: John Woodgate Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 12:40 AM I read in !emc-pstc that Rich Nute wrote Hi John: The electrical safety legislation seems to be a bit more complicated in U.S. compared to EU. A very great deal more complicated, because the practical requirements are not centralized but delegated down though the local government chain, and in some cases jurisdictions overlap or are not clearly segregated. Furthermore, in the USA, requirements are NOT delegated down though the local government chain Furthermore, there are NO cases where jurisdictions overlap or are not clearly segregated. Depending on the State, building codes are set and enforced by either the State, the County, or the City. These are the jurisdictions. That's what I meant by 'delegated' Except that there is no delegation. Rather, the case is one of supersession: municipal to county to state to federal, in that order. Generally, the higher level of government trumps the lower. However, a number of complaints and court cases have been brought by the lower governmental bodies against higher levels of government for treading on their jurisdiction where they have questionable legal basis to. I'm sure I read here about different attitudes to DIY modifications at City, County and State levels, each level claiming authority - no response like 'We don't have jurisdiction; you have to ask City about that'. I have run into something like this. The city deferred to the county in some areas (major construction issues like home remodeling) and the county deferred to the city in others (ancillary constructions like fences, storage sheds, etc.). Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE Product Safety Manager Sanmina-SCI Homologation Services San Jose, CA peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
RE: EU ascensions - Which countries officially accept the CE mark ?
All, Last week, I attended a PECA workshop from the EU commission in Brussels. There were several speakers from the following countries: Czech Republic Hungary Slovenia Poland Estonia Luthuania Latvia No speakers from Malta, Bulgaria and Romania, but PECA negociations are initiated or in progress. EMC and Safety Sectoral annexes are included in most PECA's and operational in some, but RTTE as well as other new approach directives are not included nor operational at all. The commission has distributed a very nice CD-ROM (70MB) with all presentations to the participants of the workshop. Maybe it can be obtained by asking through the EU web-site. Regards, Kris From: Andre, Pierre-Marie [mailto:pierre-marie.an...@intel.com] Sent: maandag 20 januari 2003 18:05 To: Mike Cantwell; Emc-Pstc (E-mail) Subject: RE: EU ascensions - Which countries officially accept the CE mark ? Mike, May be you can find the answer at : http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/regulation/pecas/pecas_negotiations .htm Good luck Pierre-Marie Andre Senior Approval Engineer This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
January NPSS Meeting is Tomorrow, January 22nd
There will be a Northeast Product Safety Society meeting tomorrow, January 22nd, at EMC Corporation's Customer Briefing Center at 42 South Street in Hopkinton, MA. A social hour with light refreshments will begin at 7:00 PM and the technical meeting will start at 7:30 PM. John Freudenberg, NPSS webmaster for the last two years, will be presenting this month’s technical topic concerning the history and future plans for the NPSS web site. His discussion will show how any compliance engineer with zero web experience can become a novice NPSS webmaster in 10 minutes. The presentation will be followed by a brief training demo in which a brave volunteer with no previous web experience will be shown how to make an actual live on-line modification to the official NPSS web site. Time permitting we'll also invite as many members as possible from the audience to lead a 2 minute (max) presentation of their company web sites o Manufacturers will be invited to highlight their site and point to ways in which the web has been used to distribute compliance information. An LCD projector will be available but you'll need to be prepared with your own laptop and way to get through your company firewall. o Vendors will be invited to highlight their site and point to ways in which the web has been used to provide useful technical information to potential customers. In the live session we'll download one of the web pages using a free public File Transfer Protocol (FTP) program, make minor edits to the web page and upload (implement) the revised web page back to the NPSS web site. The demo will be useful to future NPSS webmasters and to others interested in being webmaster of a web site for your own home, family, sports, non-profit organization or business equivalent to www.nepss.org The 2003 NPSS meeting schedule is available on the NPSS website at http://www.nepss.org/meetings/NPSS2003Calendar.htm. Further information about the Northeast Product Safety Society and how to become a member is available at http://www.nepss.org. You can also contact one of the NPSS officers via links at http://www.nepss.org/secretary/officerskf.html. Directions: From Route 495 North or South take exit 21B to South Street. At the first traffic light, turn left (Note: This is on South direction side of Route 495). EMC Corporation is the second driveway on the right. Matt Campanella NPSS Secretary Compliance Engineer Motorola, Inc. Broadband Communications Sector 3 Highwood Drive East Tewksbury, MA 01876 (978) 858-2303 Direct (978) 858-2300 Main (978) 858-2399 Fax matthew.campane...@motorola.com email This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
RE: Fiber optic hazards level 3B US EU requirements
Zohar, My educated guess is that a 200mW (I'm assuming milli-Watt not micro-Watt) transceiver would have a semiconductor laser source. I wouldn't imagine that it would be an average LED. From your subject line, it appears that you believe that your laser product is Class 3B. Assuming that all of this is correct; then you have a little bit of work to do for the US market. The US regulations are spelled out in the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR). Specifically CFR Title 21, Part 1040. You can check out the CFR at www.access.gpo.gov/nara The organization that enforces this is the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) specifically the FDA Center for Devices and Radiological Health (FDA/CDRH). The CDRH has a website at: www.fda.gov/cdrh Another document of interest is CDRH Laser Notice 50 dated 26 July 2001. Laser Notice 50 essentially states that the CDRH will accept the technical aspects of European laser safety as spelled out in EN 60825-1 for laser products. However, you still must report the product to the CDRH. Your email mentioned EN 60825-2 for systems (note the difference between -1 and -2) . From the sound of your message, it seems as though EN 60825-1 for products is more appropriate. However, don't let me steer you off course if I've made a bad assumption. Regards Chris Maxwell | Design Engineer - Optical Division email chris.maxw...@nettest.com | dir +1 315 266 5128 | fax +1 315 797 8024 NetTest | 6 Rhoads Drive, Utica, NY 13502 | USA web www.nettest.com | tel +1 315 797 4449 | -Original Message- From: zohar.zosmanov...@ecitele.com [mailto:zohar.zosmanov...@ecitele.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 4:47 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Fiber optic hazards level 3B US EU requirements Hello, I have an ITE product consisting of fiber optic Transceiver 200mW output power. I'm not familiar with that type of equipment, but I know that the fiber optic should comply with IEC 60825-2. What are the requirements for US. Any information regarding the above subject is appreciated. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
RE: Fiber optic hazards level 3B US EU requirements
Zohar - IEC60825-2 is the standard for fiber optic systems; the transceiver itself must comply with IEC60825-1. For the US, the Code of Federal Regulations, Title 21, Food and Drugs. Laser performance and marking requirements are found in Part 1040, §1040.10. You should also become familiar with the reporting requirements in Part 1002, notification requirements in Part 1003, importation requirements in Part 1005, and the general performance requirements in Part 1010. There are also a number of Laser Notices that you will want to obtain copies of that will help you in determining the best path for compliance for your situation. Refer to http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/. Copies of relevant sections of 21CFR and all of the laser notices are available in electronic format from the Center for Devices and Radiological Health (CDRH). Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE Product Safety Manager Sanmina-SCI Homologation Services San Jose, CA peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com -Original Message- From: zohar.zosmanov...@ecitele.com Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 1:47 AM Hello, I have an ITE product consisting of fiber optic Transceiver 200mW output power. I'm not familiar with that type of equipment, but I know that the fiber optic should comply with IEC 60825-2. What are the requirements for US. Any information regarding the above subject is appreciated. This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: jurisdiction, overlap, and delegation in USA rules.
I read in !emc-pstc that Rich Nute ri...@sdd.hp.com wrote (in 200301210304.taa03...@hpsdlxs0.sdd.hp.com) about 'jurisdiction, overlap, and delegation in USA rules.' on Mon, 20 Jan 2003: Hi John: The electrical safety legislation seems to be a bit more complicated in U.S. compared to EU. A very great deal more complicated, because the practical requirements are not centralized but delegated down though the local government chain, and in some cases jurisdictions overlap or are not clearly segregated. I'm not at all sure what you mean by the practical requirements are not centralized I mean that they are not uniform over the whole country, AIUI. Some AHJs stick closely to the NEC, some apply their own 'improvements', or so I have read here. Furthermore, in the USA, requirements are NOT delegated down though the local government chain Furthermore, there are NO cases where jurisdictions overlap or are not clearly segregated. Depending on the State, building codes are set and enforced by either the State, the County, or the City. These are the jurisdictions. That's what I meant by 'delegated' There is no jurisdictional overlap or lack of clear segregation (at least insofar as building codes are concerned). I'm sure I read here about different attitudes to DIY modifications at City, County and State levels, each level claiming authority - no response like 'We don't have jurisdiction; you have to ask City about that'. If that is an urban legend, I have been misled, but no-one challenged it at the time. [snip] -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then go to http://www.isce.org.uk PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL! This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
RE: Fiber optic hazards level 3B US EU requirements
Zohar, You need to comply with US Code For Regulations 21CFR1040 The Center for Devices and Radiological Health, an arm of the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) regulates this area. Here's a link that is useful. http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/comp/rad_consumer.html John A. Juhasz GE Interlogix Fiber Options Div. Bohemia, NY From: zohar.zosmanov...@ecitele.com [mailto:zohar.zosmanov...@ecitele.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 4:47 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Fiber optic hazards level 3B US EU requirements Hello, I have an ITE product consisting of fiber optic Transceiver 200mW output power. I'm not familiar with that type of equipment, but I know that the fiber optic should comply with IEC 60825-2. What are the requirements for US. Any information regarding the above subject is appreciated. This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
RE: WEEE Directive
After some additional research, I found my answer. Electrolyte capacitors contain substances of concern if the volume of the device exceeds a specified minumum. In that case, the metals are to be recovered and the rest is to be treated by high temperatures. Additional information on the WEEE recovery process can be found in http://www1.oecd.org/ehs/Waste/AUTLoSt.doc Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International -Original Message- From: WOODS, RICHARD Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:38 AM To: 'emc-pstc' Subject: WEEE Directive Annex II of the draft WEEE Directive lists materials and components that must be removed for selective treatment including Electrolyte capacitors containing substances of concern . . . Other than the four heavy metals and PCBs, what substances of concern, if any, may be found in electrolytic capacitors? Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
RE: Fiber optic hazards level 3B US EU requirements
The FDA does not consider LEDs to be lasers in the USA, so the are not controlled by FDA regulations. So go ahead a burn out someone's eye - lol. Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International From: zohar.zosmanov...@ecitele.com [mailto:zohar.zosmanov...@ecitele.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 4:47 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Fiber optic hazards level 3B US EU requirements Hello, I have an ITE product consisting of fiber optic Transceiver 200mW output power. I'm not familiar with that type of equipment, but I know that the fiber optic should comply with IEC 60825-2. What are the requirements for US. Any information regarding the above subject is appreciated. This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
WEEE Directive
Apologies to all for false information on my recent submission. The DTI have done the dirty on me! The current draft WEEE document looks identical to the version that I downloaded some time ago. It has the same numbers and dates etc. on the front page and I assumed (foolishly) that it was unchanged. However, investigation showed that although the text of the main body appears to be unchanged, it has been modified to print out on more pages – what an example of minimising resources! It has also added the extra Annexes. My interpretation of the reference to ALL items in section 1 of Annex II is to question the term separately collected WEEE. Sections 15 16 of the Whereas at the commencement of the draft indicate this to be items collected separate from general household waste. Considering the reference to Article 4 of directive 75/442/EEC. This details measures to ensure that waste is recovered or disposed of without endangering human health and without using processes or methods which could harm the environment, and in particular: without risk to water, air, soil and plants and animals, without causing a nuisance through noise or odours, without adversely affecting the countryside or places of special interest. Member States shall also take the necessary measures to prohibit the abandonment, dumping or uncontrolled disposal of waste. So the question seems to be how are you going to dispose of the product at its end of life? If dangerous substances are involved in some components (as per RHoS), then they must be dealt with accordingly. Anyone with further thoughts? Regards, Neil Helsby ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Fiber optic hazards level 3B US EU requirements
Hello, I have an ITE product consisting of fiber optic Transceiver 200mW output power. I'm not familiar with that type of equipment, but I know that the fiber optic should comply with IEC 60825-2. What are the requirements for US. Any information regarding the above subject is appreciated. This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
Re: HAR Green / Yellow Wire
Hello Doug, Check out the following standard: IEC Publication 60173, Colors of the cores of flexible cables and cords. The color scheme you are looking for is referenced in this standard. Best regards, Ron Wellman At 03:53 PM 1/20/2003 -0700, POWELL, DOUG wrote: Hello group, In the past I understood the color requirements of green/yellow wire to be nominally 50%/50% coverage with a tolerance minimum of 30% coverage for either green or yellow with the remainder to be the other color. I've see reference to HD 186 Table 1, but I am not certain this is where the requirement is outlined in detail. I would like to know that I am purchasing the correct document. Is there anyone who can tell me which CENELEC (or VDE, etc) document details this requirement? Thanks, -doug Douglas E. Powell Regulatory Compliance Engineer Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. Fort Collins, CO 80535 USA mailto:doug.pow...@aei.commailto:doug.pow...@aei.com ___ This message, including any attachments, may contain information that is confidential and proprietary information of Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. The dissemination, distribution, use or copying of this message or any of its attachments is strictly prohibited without the express written consent of Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
jurisdiction, overlap, and delegation in USA rules.
Hi John: The electrical safety legislation seems to be a bit more complicated in U.S. compared to EU. A very great deal more complicated, because the practical requirements are not centralized but delegated down though the local government chain, and in some cases jurisdictions overlap or are not clearly segregated. I'm not at all sure what you mean by the practical requirements are not centralized Furthermore, in the USA, requirements are NOT delegated down though the local government chain Furthermore, there are NO cases where jurisdictions overlap or are not clearly segregated. Depending on the State, building codes are set and enforced by either the State, the County, or the City. These are the jurisdictions. There is no jurisdictional overlap or lack of clear segregation (at least insofar as building codes are concerned). Within the Building Code, there is a subset, the Electrical Code. These Codes comprise a Standard for the construction of buildings, including the electrical construction of the of the building. Electrical codes typically require the individual materials used in the electrical construction, including appliances, to be certified for safety (Listed) by safety labs specified in the local code. There is no delegation down through local governments. The USA Federal government Department of Labor has a separate and independent (from building codes) set of safety rules for employees. One of the rules addresses electrical safety in the workplace. Included in these electrical safety rules is a rule specifying that the electrical equipment used by employees be Listed (by a NRTL). A jurisidictional overlap may APPEAR to exist between the electrical code and the DoL OSHA rule. However, in practice, both organizations have been very careful not to tread in the other's jurisdiction. Best regards, Rich This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
RE: Can anyone recommend good EMC seminars for compliance managers?
howard and others my dad, robert hanson, teaches a one day course on key emi/emc issues (my dad teaches for u. wisconsin, berkeley, and for his own company, americom seminars). the next emi/emc seminar is jan. 21 in seattle. there will be one on mar. 27 in minneapolis/st.paul. information about the seattle seminar is available at: http://www.americomseminars.com/ (info on the minneapolis seminar will be available there too, in about 2 or 3 days) if you'd like a printed brochure, just email me. jim hanson :) americom seminars hanso...@whitman.edu From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Howard Ji Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 4:06 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Can anyone recommend good EMC seminars for compliance managers? Hi Folks, My manager wants to attend an EMC seminar for compliance managers. He is not an EMC person and doesn't want to know all the technical details. I remember Univ. of Wisconcin offered such seminar before. Andway, any recommendation are appreciated. Details such as an URL is prefered. Thanks in advance. Howard This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: davehe...@attbi.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://ieeepstc.mindcruiser.com/ Click on browse and then emc-pstc mailing list
