Re: Copies of CNS standards
As Ted Mentioned, GB standards are for mainland China. They may be viewed through www.sac.gov.cn (the rectangular icon on the bottom left side). For CNS standards, I tried cnsonline.com. I stopped when I was asked for an account. Several members did go through it and purchased CNS standards. I will forward the difficulty of purchasing CNS standards to BSMI. In the meantime, if you urgently need any CNS standard(s), please let me know by Thursday, August 14, 2008. A top rank of BSMI official is coming to Detroit for the 2008 IEEE EMC Symposium next week. He is more than happy to assist you. Best regards, Grace On 8/12/08, Brian O'Connell oconne...@tamuracorp.com wrote: For the ANSI webstore, did you look under Chinese GB ? About 15 months ago I bought a Chinese std from ANSI - so do not know what changed. I just visited the cnsonline and bsmi.gov.tw sites and got a multitude of 404 errors, and a 301 (moved). Also, perhaps Grace Lin could advise, as she once wrote an article on comparing this std to CISPR. -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Knighten, Jim L Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 1:20 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards Charles, I found acquisition of CNS 13438 to be difficult. Couldn't find it on the ANSI site. To purchase from cnsonline, you must purchase a HiTech prepaid card and that was the difficult part for us. The web site was difficult. We finally got our in-country rep. to get it for us. They said the website was too difficult and they went down to the BSMI office, purchased a paper copy, scanned it and sent it by e-mail. Good luck. Jim James L. Knighten, Ph.D. EMC Engineer Teradata Corporation 17095 Via Del Campo San Diego, CA 92127 858-485-2537 - phone 213-337-5432 - fax -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Brian O'Connell Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:47 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards may not be safe for some browsers - www.cnsonline.com.tw/en/ also, ANSI has CNS - http://webstore.ansi.org -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Grasso, Charles Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:25 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Copies of CNS standards Hello list members, Where can I buy copies of the CNS standards? Best Regards Charles Grasso - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: Copies of CNS standards
Thank you Grace. You may want to impress upon the BSMI official the need that we have to purchase the BSMI standards in English. While we can have them translated, it is an expense delay in using the standards and we cannot be absolutely certain that the standard has been translated correctly. A translation by BSMI would be convenient and comforting. Bob Heller 3M EMC Laboratory, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651- 778-6336 Fax: 651-778-6252 Grace Lin gracelinnj@gmail .com To Sent by: emc-p...@ieee.org emc-p...@ieee.org cc Subject 08/13/2008 06:49 Re: Copies of CNS standards AM As Ted Mentioned, GB standards are for mainland China. They may be viewed through www.sac.gov.cn (the rectangular icon on the bottom left side). For CNS standards, I tried cnsonline.com. I stopped when I was asked for an account. Several members did go through it and purchased CNS standards. I will forward the difficulty of purchasing CNS standards to BSMI. In the meantime, if you urgently need any CNS standard(s), please let me know by Thursday, August 14, 2008. A top rank of BSMI official is coming to Detroit for the 2008 IEEE EMC Symposium next week. He is more than happy to assist you. Best regards, Grace On 8/12/08, Brian O'Connell oconne...@tamuracorp.com wrote: For the ANSI webstore, did you look under Chinese GB ? About 15 months ago I bought a Chinese std from ANSI - so do not know what changed. I just visited the cnsonline and bsmi.gov.tw sites and got a multitude of 404 errors, and a 301 (moved). Also, perhaps Grace Lin could advise, as she once wrote an article on comparing this std to CISPR. -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Knighten, Jim L Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 1:20 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards Charles, I found acquisition of CNS 13438 to be difficult. Couldn't find it on the ANSI site. To purchase from cnsonline, you must purchase a HiTech prepaid card and that was the difficult part for us. The web site was difficult. We finally got our in-country rep. to get it for us. They said the website was too difficult and they went down to the BSMI office, purchased a paper copy, scanned it and sent it by e-mail. Good luck. Jim James L. Knighten, Ph.D. EMC Engineer Teradata Corporation 17095 Via Del Campo San Diego, CA 92127 858-485-2537 - phone 213-337-5432 - fax -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Brian O'Connell Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:47 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards may not be safe for some browsers - www.cnsonline.com.tw/en/ also, ANSI has CNS - http://webstore.ansi.org -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Grasso, Charles Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:25 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Copies of CNS standards Hello list members, Where can I buy copies of the CNS standards? Best Regards Charles Grasso - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org
Re: Copies of CNS standards
In message of3345706a.87e8c8e4-on862574a4.004215c6-862574a4.0042a...@mmm.com, dated Wed, 13 Aug 2008, rehel...@mmm.com writes: A translation by BSMI would be convenient and comforting. Word of caution; the best translation is done into the translator's mother tongue. A translation 'by BSMI' might not meet this criterion. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk Either we are causing global warming, in which case we may be able to stop it, or natural variation is causing it, and we probably can't stop it. You choose! John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: Copies of CNS standards
John, I have to agree with you. An engineer from CESI, the publisher for GB standards, told me that China does not issue an official English version of GB standards to avoid any issue that may arise due to translation. Best regards, Grace On 8/13/08, John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk wrote: In message OF3345706A.87E8C8E4-ON8625 4a4.004215c6-862574a4.0042a...@mmm.com, dated Wed, 13 Aug 2008, rehel...@mmm.com writes: A translation by BSMI would be convenient and comforting. Word of caution; the best translation is done into the translator's mother tongue. A translation 'by BSMI' might not meet this criterion. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk/ and www.isce.org.uk http://www.isce.org.uk/ Either we are causing global warming, in which case we may be able to stop it, or natural variation is causing it, and we probably can't stop it. You choose! John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Copies of CNS standards
Thank you all for your help! From: emc-p...@ieee.org on behalf of Grace Lin Sent: Wed 8/13/2008 7:09 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Copies of CNS standards John, I have to agree with you. An engineer from CESI, the publisher for GB standards, told me that China does not issue an official English version of GB standards to avoid any issue that may arise due to translation. Best regards, Grace On 8 /13/08, John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk wrote: In message OF3345706A.87E8C8E4-ON8625 4a4.004215c6-862574a4.0042a...@mmm.com, dated Wed, 13 Aug 2008, rehel...@mmm.com writes: A translation by BSMI would be convenient and comforting. Word of caution; the best translation is done into the translator's mother tongue. A translation 'by BSMI' might not meet this criterion. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk/ and www.isce.org.uk http://www.isce.org.uk/ Either we are causing global warming, in which case we may be able to stop it, or natural variation is causing it, and we probably can't stop it. You choose! John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Copies of CNS standards
Hello list members, Where can I buy copies of the CNS standards? Best Regards Charles Grasso Compliance Engineer Echostar Communications (w) 303-706-5467 (c) 303-204-2974 (t) 3033022...@vtext.com (e) charles.gra...@echostar.com (e2) chasgra...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Copies of CNS standards
may not be safe for some browsers - www.cnsonline.com.tw/en/ also, ANSI has CNS - http://webstore.ansi.org From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Grasso, Charles Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:25 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Copies of CNS standards Hello list members, Where can I buy copies of the CNS standards? Best Regards Charles Grasso - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Copies of CNS standards
Charles, I found acquisition of CNS 13438 to be difficult. Couldn't find it on the ANSI site. To purchase from cnsonline, you must purchase a HiTech prepaid card and that was the difficult part for us. The web site was difficult. We finally got our in-country rep. to get it for us. They said the website was too difficult and they went down to the BSMI office, purchased a paper copy, scanned it and sent it by e-mail. Good luck. Jim James L. Knighten, Ph.D. EMC Engineer Teradata Corporation 17095 Via Del Campo San Diego, CA 92127 858-485-2537 - phone 213-337-5432 - fax From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Brian O'Connell Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:47 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards may not be safe for some browsers - www.cnsonline.com.tw/en/ also, ANSI has CNS - http://webstore.ansi.org From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Grasso, Charles Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:25 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Copies of CNS standards Hello list members, Where can I buy copies of the CNS standards? Best Regards Charles Grasso - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Copies of CNS standards
For the ANSI webstore, did you look under Chinese GB ? About 15 months ago I bought a Chinese std from ANSI - so do not know what changed. I just visited the cnsonline and bsmi.gov.tw sites and got a multitude of 404 errors, and a 301 (moved). Also, perhaps Grace Lin could advise, as she once wrote an article on comparing this std to CISPR. From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Knighten, Jim L Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 1:20 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards Charles, I found acquisition of CNS 13438 to be difficult. Couldn't find it on the ANSI site. To purchase from cnsonline, you must purchase a HiTech prepaid card and that was the difficult part for us. The web site was difficult. We finally got our in-country rep. to get it for us. They said the website was too difficult and they went down to the BSMI office, purchased a paper copy, scanned it and sent it by e-mail. Good luck. Jim James L. Knighten, Ph.D. EMC Engineer Teradata Corporation 17095 Via Del Campo San Diego, CA 92127 858-485-2537 - phone 213-337-5432 - fax From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Brian O'Connell Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:47 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards may not be safe for some browsers - www.cnsonline.com.tw/en/ also, ANSI has CNS - http://webstore.ansi.org From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Grasso, Charles Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:25 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Copies of CNS standards Hello list members, Where can I buy copies of the CNS standards? Best Regards Charles Grasso - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Copies of CNS standards
I did a quick search on the ANSI web site for Chinese GB, as suggested. I got 1500 hits, but could not find CNS 13438 and all documents I browsed through (not all 1500) were in Chinese language, which is of no help to me. Jim James L. Knighten, Ph.D. EMC Engineer Teradata Corporation 17095 Via Del Campo San Diego, CA 92127 858-485-2537 - phone 213-337-5432 - fax From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Brian O'Connell Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 2:11 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards For the ANSI webstore, did you look under Chinese GB ? About 15 months ago I bought a Chinese std from ANSI - so do not know what changed. I just visited the cnsonline and bsmi.gov.tw sites and got a multitude of 404 errors, and a 301 (moved). Also, perhaps Grace Lin could advise, as she once wrote an article on comparing this std to CISPR. From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Knighten, Jim L Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 1:20 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards Charles, I found acquisition of CNS 13438 to be difficult. Couldn't find it on the ANSI site. To purchase from cnsonline, you must purchase a HiTech prepaid card and that was the difficult part for us. The web site was difficult. We finally got our in-country rep. to get it for us. They said the website was too difficult and they went down to the BSMI office, purchased a paper copy, scanned it and sent it by e-mail. Good luck. Jim James L. Knighten, Ph.D. EMC Engineer Teradata Corporation 17095 Via Del Campo San Diego, CA 92127 858-485-2537 - phone 213-337-5432 - fax From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Brian O'Connell Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:47 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards may not be safe for some browsers - www.cnsonline.com.tw/en/ also, ANSI has CNS - http://webstore.ansi.org From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Grasso, Charles Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:25 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Copies of CNS standards Hello list members, Where can I buy copies of the CNS standards? Best Regards Charles Grasso - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Copies of CNS standards
The GB standards are for mainland China. The CNS standards are for Taiwan. ANSI does not have many Taiwanese standards. BSMI is the best place to get it, but their web site isn't working properly right now. (At least the English section is not.) CE Magazine does have an old comparison between the Taiwan standard and CISPR 22 that may help. http://www.ce-mag.com/archive/1999/novdec/Lin.html Ted Eckert The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Knighten, Jim L jim.knigh...@teradata.com wrote: From: Knighten, Jim L jim.knigh...@teradata.com Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards To: emc-p...@ieee.org Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 4:28 PM I did a quick search on the ANSI web site for Chinese GB, as suggested. I got 1500 hits, but could not find CNS 13438 and all documents I browsed through (not all 1500) were in Chinese language, which is of no help to me. Jim James L. Knighten, Ph.D. EMC Engineer Teradata Corporation 17095 Via Del Campo San Diego, CA 92127 858-485-2537 - phone 213-337-5432 - fax -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Brian O'Connell Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 2:11 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards For the ANSI webstore, did you look under Chinese GB ? About 15 months ago I bought a Chinese std from ANSI - so do not know what changed. I just visited the cnsonline and bsmi.gov.tw sites and got a multitude of 404 errors, and a 301 (moved). Also, perhaps Grace Lin could advise, as she once wrote an article on comparing this std to CISPR. -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Knighten, Jim L Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 1:20 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards Charles, I found acquisition of CNS 13438 to be difficult. Couldn't find it on the ANSI site. To purchase from cnsonline, you must purchase a HiTech prepaid card and that was the difficult part for us. The web site was difficult. We finally got our in-country rep. to get it for us. They said the website was too difficult and they went down to the BSMI office, purchased a paper copy, scanned it and sent it by e-mail. Good luck. Jim James L. Knighten, Ph.D. EMC Engineer Teradata Corporation 17095 Via Del Campo San Diego, CA 92127 858-485-2537 - phone 213-337-5432 - fax -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Brian O'Connell Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:47 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Copies of CNS standards may not be safe for some browsers - www.cnsonline.com.tw/en/ also, ANSI has CNS - http://webstore.ansi.org -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Grasso, Charles Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:25 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Copies of CNS standards Hello list members, Where can I buy copies of the CNS standards? Best Regards Charles Grasso - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald:emc-p...@daveheald.com All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety