RE: Mexican Product Safety (NOM)

1996-07-16 Thread Victor L. Boersma
For Information Technology Equipment and Telecommunications 
Equipment, the responsible standards organization in Mexico is 
NYCE (Normalizacion y Certificacion Electronica).

The VP in charge of Certification is Victor-Hugo Perez-Salinas,
the operating manager is Julio Nunez.  Victor-Hugo is ex-Motorola,
Julio is ex Alcatel.  Both speak fluent English.  They can be reached
at:

011-525-687-3932, 687-3852, 536-3378, 543-3639, 536-3408 or
fax at 543-4070.

The Mexican high-tech industry would like to switch to IEC-950 and
Mexican representatives now participate in the work of IEC TC74.
However, under Mexican law, if they switch to IEC-950, that is the
only standard they can use.  That would play havoc with Mexican 
pencil sharpener manufacturers, etc., etc.  Hence they are looking
for a way to accomodate that concern.

In addition, Mexico, and many other 3rd world countries, do not 
have an infrastructure that allows them to have many laboratories 
that are equipped to measure to high-tech standards.  They can not
promolgate standards that no Mexican laboratory can test to.  Hence,
they will have to earn the money to pay for that expertise, in their 
country, by any and all means.  It is unacceptable that stuff would
be tested by foreign laboratories to Mexican requirements, because
Mexico can't do it.

I estimate that they will need about $ 300 M in regulatory revenue
on high tech equipment, to do that.  We are going to pay that money,
one way or the other.   (SWAG=Scientific Wild Arsed Guess).

Ciao,


Vic 


Re: Mexican Product Safety (NOM)

1996-07-16 Thread gasse

I received this useful source of information from my
IBM collegue in Mexico, and think it's up to date,
detailed and close to the origin.

-
 From:  RENE SALAZAR
 Subject: NOM information

 - NOM is required for all ITE equipment that connects to mains.
 - UL, CSA, CE, etc. are not valid in Mexico, the national product safety
   standard is NOM-019
 - NOM-019 has to be obtained in Mexico only.
 - A company can make arrangements to get NOM approval by an agency
   in Mexico
   I know UL can assit.
 - Afirmatively, NOM-019 is based on UL478 and not on IEC 950/UL 1950
 - Any ITE equipment that is going to be sold in Mexico has to comply with
   NOM-109, otherise you will not be able to pass the product to Mexico
   and the product can be confiscated at customs.
 - The NOM certificate will expire at year, so each year the product
   (if still
   sold in Mexico), has to be re-certified.
 - The product has to be tested in an approved Mexican lab. (in Mexico).
 - Yes, the certificate must reside with a Mexican entity (i.e. importer,
   distributor, etc.)
 - A lot of efforts have been done to review IEC 950 Mexican version by
   Government offices, but so far there are no results.


   Mexico NOM Requirements
   ===

   Attached are the legal requirements for products that are provided for
   retail distribution in Mexico.

   * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

   The Government of Mexico has issued several regulations related to
   consumer protection.  Most of these regulations require compliance to
   Mexican national standards called Normas Oficiales Mexicanas or NOMs.
   There are three key NOMs that affect packages, containers, and
   distribution..

- NOM-024: Commercial Information for Electronic, Electrical, and
   Home Electronic Products

- NOM-035: Off-site sales Commercial Information (telemarketing)

- NOM-050: Commercial Information (for general products)

   Companies manufacturing or importing products into Mexico must follow
   these NOMs if they want to avoid penalties and fines issued by the






   Mexican government's Consumer Protection Agency.  Inspections may occur
   during retail operations.  Also, Mexican customs officers may inspect
   shipments at ports of entry, to verify NOM requirements are met.

   LABELING REQUIREMENTS
   -

   NOM-024: This standard covers electronic equipment. It includes
   requirements for three key areas.

1) Commercial Information
2) Instructions and Warnings
3) Warranties

   All electronic products imported into Mexico must have the following
   data
   printed on the packaging (or printed on a label which is adhered to the
   packaging) in Spanish language:

   a) Name of the product
   b) Name and address of the importer
   c) Name and country of the exporter (with address optional)
   d) Marking that identifies the country of origin of the product
   e) Certification that the product conforms to the standard

  - This may be met with a NOM logo followed by Company's
registration
number, which is asigned by people in charge of NOM.

NOTE: THE NOM LOGO MUST BE PLACED BOTH, ON THE PRODUCT AND
  ON THE EXTERNAL PACKAGING.

   f) Nominal electrical characteristics such as power requirements,
  current, voltage, and frequency.

LABEL SAMPLE
--
IIMPRESORA LASERIBM TIPO 4019 MODELO E01 I
IIMPORTADA POR: IBM DE MEXICO, S.A.  I
I   MARIANO ESCOBEDO 595 I
I   COL. POLANCO CHAPULTEPEC I
I   11560 MEXICO, D.F.   I
I   MEXICO   I
I   TELEFONO 327-5000I
IEXPORTADA POR: IBM DE ARGENTINA, S.A.   I
I   MARTINEZ, ARGENTINA  I
IFABRICADA EN:  REPUBLICA ARGENTINA  I
II
I   ---  I
I   NOM-018  I
I   ---  I
II
ICORRIENTE DE CONSUMO ___XX__AMPERES I
IFRECUENCIA DE OPERACION_XX__HERTZ   I
ITENSION DE ALIMENTACION_XX__VOLTS   I
 

   The above information should be printed on the packaging that is
   offered
   for sale to a consumer.  This information is not required on shipping






   containers, unless the s

RE: Mexican Product Safety (NOM)

1996-07-11 Thread Cameron, Danny C
Hello Again Group;

Thanks to all who contributed on this subject.  I have all the
information I need to get started.

On the subject of viruses... I have yet to figure what sort of jollies
anyone could get from such activities.  Personally I already know of one
person who received a mysterious infection today.  I have just loaded
the newest version of McAfee Virus Shield and have it configured it to
run full time and to scan/disinfect on a full time basis.  Whoever is
spreading this virus should really get a life!


Regards;






Danny C. Cameron
Product Safety Engineer
Compliance Engineering Department  Telephone   (205)
730-6029
Intergraph Computer Systems  FAX 
(205) 730-6239
Huntsville, Alabama 35894-0001Email  
dccam...@hsv.pcmail.ingr.com
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RE: Mexican Product Safety (NOM)

1996-07-11 Thread Leipold, Harold
Another good contact for Mexican compliance is:

Ms. Dorothy Trawkowska
International Compliance Services
Underwriters Laboratories Inc.
333 Pfingsten Road
Northbrook, IL  60062-2096

Ph  (847)272-8800  x42386
Fax (847)272-9562

She is the Mexico specialist in ICS and can answer many of your questions 
without the hassle (Mexican telecommunications) of contacting Tim Calland in 
Mexico (as Tania and other have suggested).

Harold Leipold
Siemens EC
Princeton, IN
Tel. (812)386-2161
Fax (812)386-2616
Internet mail -  leipo...@ae.sec.siemens.com

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From: Cameron, Danny C
To: LEIPOLHD; 'emc-p...@ieee.org'
Subject: Mexican Product Safety (NOM)
List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org
Date: Wednesday, July 10, 1996 8:05AM

Hello Group;

 Can anyone tell me the requirements for ITE in Mexico.  My company
attains UL, CSA, NEMKO, and CE on all products offered for sale, is this
enough to satisfy the "NOM" .  Does anyone have a contact name and/or
telephone number that I can get?


Regards;


Danny C. Cameron
Product Safety Engineer
Compliance Engineering Department  Telephone   (205)
730-6029
Intergraph Computer Systems  FAX
(205) 730-6239
Huntsville, Alabama 35894-0001Email
dccam...@hsv.pcmail.ingr.com
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Re: Mexican Product Safety (NOM)

1996-07-10 Thread tania . grant
 But there is money to be generated by regulating ITE
 
  Tania Grant, Octel Communications Corporation


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Author:  "rbusche"  at P_Internet_mail
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Date:7/10/96 11:39 AM


Just a quick thought regarding Mexican product safety regulations. I find it
rather interesting that there even exists a Mexican regulation with regard to
ITE equipment. Having been in Mexico recently, I noticed that there appears
to be no regulations with regard to the electrical wiring. Street poles are
cluttered with wiring which looks like it was connected with lots of black
tape. Looking around the cities, you will find concrete fences with broken
bottles imbedded in the concreate to discourage trespassing. Construction
practices are marginal as materials are expensive and technology is obviously
lagging. An example of this is the destruction associated with recent
earthquakes. Anyway, don't get me wrong, Mexico is a beautiful place and I
love to visit there. The people are fantastic. I just find it odd that in a
country struggling to find safeness, that ITE is regulated to the degree that
it appears to be.

Just my $.02, Sorry for taking up the space.


Re: Mexican Product Safety (NOM)

1996-07-10 Thread tania . grant
 Danny,
 
 I think you will get unbiased information from the resident UL 
 engineer in Mexico who works with NOM and ANCE (Associacion Nacional 
 de Normalizacion y Certificacion del Sector Electrical.)
 
  Tim Calland, phone 011-525-294-7660
   FAX   011-525-294-7089
 
 
  Tania Grant, Octel Communication Corporation


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Subject: Mexican Product Safety (NOM)
Author:  "Cameron; Danny C"  at P_Internet_mail
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Date:7/10/96 8:05 AM


Hello Group;

Can anyone tell me the requirements for ITE in Mexico.  My company
attains UL, CSA, NEMKO, and CE on all products offered for sale, is this
enough to satisfy the "NOM" .  Does anyone have a contact name and/or
telephone number that I can get?  


Regards;


Danny C. Cameron
Product Safety Engineer
Compliance Engineering Department  Telephone   (205)
730-6029
Intergraph Computer Systems  FAX 
(205) 730-6239
Huntsville, Alabama 35894-0001Email  
dccam...@hsv.pcmail.ingr.com
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RE: Mexican Product Safety (NOM)

1996-07-10 Thread George Sparacino/UB Networks
Hello Dan,

I believe
The mandatory standard for evaluating ITE is NOM-019-SCFI-1993 (there may be a 
more recent edition).
Another applicable document which describes requirements for labeling & 
information to the user.


Try one of the following:



* UL International Compliance Group
Scott Lemon P.E.
Research Triangle Park
N.C. 22709-3995
Phone: 919-549-1484
Fax : 919-547-6026

* UL de M`exico  (UL's Mexican office)
Tim Calland
Phone: 011-52-5-294-7660
Fax: 011-52-5-294-7089

Either office should be able to assist you.

Also, you can call the "NAFTA  FACTS"  24 hour Automated Information System.  
This hotline is gov sponsored to assist exporters.  Dial 202-482-4464  
reference the "Doing business in Mexico" section.

Best Regards,
George Sparacino - PSE
UB Networks, Inc.
508-691-4635

Hello Group;

 Can anyone tell me the requirements for ITE in Mexico.  My company
attains UL, CSA, NEMKO, and CE on all products offered for sale, is this
enough to satisfy the "NOM" .  Does anyone have a contact name and/or
telephone number that I can get?  


Regards;


Danny C. Cameron
Product Safety Engineer
Compliance Engineering Department  Telephone   (205)
730-6029
Intergraph Computer Systems  FAX 
(205) 730-6239
Huntsville, Alabama 35894-0001Email  
dccam...@hsv.pcmail.ingr.com
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Re: Mexican Product Safety (NOM)

1996-07-10 Thread Gabriel_Roy
Danny, this is an off the cuff reply, with no references to back it up, but my 
understanding is that a NOM mark is required of all ITE equipment. UL, CSA, CE, 
etc will not satisfy that requirement. 
The NOM mark can only be obtained by someone in Mexico making the submittal. 
This can be an agent. 
UL has advertised that they can assist in obtaining the NOM mark. How far they 
can go I don't know, but they certainly should be able to answer questions. 
The last I heard (about a year ago) Mexico was using UL 478 (5th edition 
probably) rather than UL 1950. 
Lastly, my understanding was that they could (or would) confiscate any imports 
at the border if it did not have the NOM mark. 

It will be interesting to hear from others on this news group with 
authoritative answers. 

Gabriel Roy
Hughes Network Systems
Maryland 

(Psychic Hotlines: Shouldn't they be calling you?)


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Hello Group;

 Can anyone tell me the requirements for ITE in Mexico.  My company
attains UL, CSA, NEMKO, and CE on all products offered for sale, is this
enough to satisfy the "NOM" .  Does anyone have a contact name and/or
telephone number that I can get?  


Regards;


Danny C. Cameron
Product Safety Engineer
Compliance Engineering Department  Telephone   (205)
730-6029
Intergraph Computer Systems  FAX 
(205) 730-6239
Huntsville, Alabama 35894-0001Email  
dccam...@hsv.pcmail.ingr.com
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