Re: Software and Safety
Jim Folks Possibly not a lot of use to you guys in the US etc, but my company, ERA Technology Ltd, runs courses on software safety in the UK - see www.era.co.uk. I have been on several and they are not too bad! Therefore I say this not to promote the company as such but to bring them to the attention of anyone who is interest. Regards John Allen - Original Message - From: Jim Eichner jim.eich...@xantrex.com To: 'EMC-PSTC - forum' emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 8:57 PM Subject: RE: Software and Safety Seminars or short courses that people have taken and found useful would be of interest too, please. Thanks, Jim Eichner, P.Eng. Compliance Engineering Manager Xantrex Technology Inc. e-mail: jim.eich...@xantrex.com web: www.xantrex.com Any opinions expressed are those of my invisible friend, who really exists. Honest. No really. Confidentiality Notice: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -Original Message- From: peter merguerian [mailto:pmerguerian2...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 8:54 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Software and Safety Dear All, Many of today's equipment utilizes software which is also relied for safety. This is true in Machinery, NEBS, Alarm Systems, Medical Systems and CPU cooling in many computers, etc. I am interested in articles and links discussing software and safety in all of the above and additional product categories. Peter Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Software and Safety
Seminars or short courses that people have taken and found useful would be of interest too, please. Thanks, Jim Eichner, P.Eng. Compliance Engineering Manager Xantrex Technology Inc. e-mail: jim.eich...@xantrex.com web: www.xantrex.com Any opinions expressed are those of my invisible friend, who really exists. Honest. No really. Confidentiality Notice: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -Original Message- From: peter merguerian [mailto:pmerguerian2...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 8:54 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Software and Safety Dear All, Many of today's equipment utilizes software which is also relied for safety. This is true in Machinery, NEBS, Alarm Systems, Medical Systems and CPU cooling in many computers, etc. I am interested in articles and links discussing software and safety in all of the above and additional product categories. Peter Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Ron Pickard: emc-p...@hypercom.com Dave Heald: emc_p...@symbol.com For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org Archive is being moved, we will announce when it is back on-line. All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Software and Safety
While I have not read this book, a colleague that read it commented that there was poor math use in this publication (not certain what he meant). Anyway, some references (that I have used) for mission-critical/safety-critical s/w development: Code Complete by Steve McConnell Any book by Jack Ganssle (www.ganssle.com) MISRA C UL 1998 (have not actually read it, but used a checklist based on this standard) DO-178B EN 50128 IEC 60880 IEC 61508 UK Defense Standard 00-56 (have not actually read it, but used a checklist based on this standard) luck, Brian -Original Message- From: oover...@lexmark.com [ mailto:oover...@lexmark.com] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 4:18 AM To: peter merguerian Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Software and Safety Peter, This isn't an article but it is an excellent book in the scope of your question. The Amazon.com review criticized it for not being specific enough. Specificity was not the aim of the book. It provides a great overview of the challenges and approaches that one needs to take with software controlling hardware systems. If you want a book that tells you how to do software, this is not it. Safeware: System Safety and Computers Nancy Leveson Hardcover: 704 pages ; Dimensions (in inches): 1.21 x 9.52 x 6.60 Publisher: Addison-Wesley Pub Co; 1st edition (April 7, 1995) ISBN: 0201119722 No - I do not get royalities from the sale of the book. I have taken a class with Ms. Levenson and listened to her speak at an International System Safety Conference. Oscar peter merguerian pmerguerian2...@yahoo.com@majordomo.ieee.org on 08/21/2003 11:54:07 AM To:emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org cc: Subject:Software and Safety Dear All, Many of today's equipment utilizes software which is also relied for safety. This is true in Machinery, NEBS, Alarm Systems, Medical Systems and CPU cooling in many computers, etc. I am interested in articles and links discussing software and safety in all of the above and additional product categories. Peter
Re: Software and Safety
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Peter, This isn't an article but it is an excellent book in the scope of your question. The Amazon.com review criticized it for not being specific enough. Specificity was not the aim of the book. It provides a great overview of the challenges and approaches that one needs to take with software controlling hardware systems. If you want a book that tells you how to do software, this is not it. Safeware: System Safety and Computers Nancy Leveson Hardcover: 704 pages ; Dimensions (in inches): 1.21 x 9.52 x 6.60 Publisher: Addison-Wesley Pub Co; 1st edition (April 7, 1995) ISBN: 0201119722 No - I do not get royalities from the sale of the book. I have taken a class with Ms. Levenson and listened to her speak at an International System Safety Conference. Oscar peter merguerian pmerguerian2...@yahoo.com@majordomo.ieee.org on 08/21/2003 11:54:07 AM Please respond to peter merguerian pmerguerian2...@yahoo.com Sent by:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org To:emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org cc: Subject:Software and Safety Dear All, Many of today's equipment utilizes software which is also relied for safety. This is true in Machinery, NEBS, Alarm Systems, Medical Systems and CPU cooling in many computers, etc. I am interested in articles and links discussing software and safety in all of the above and additional product categories. Peter Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software (See attached file: C.htm) Title: Re: Software and Safety Peter, This isn't an article but it is an excellent book in the scope of your question. The Amazon.com review criticized it for not being specific enough. Specificity was not the aim of the book. It provides a great overview of the challenges and approaches that one needs to take with software controlling hardware systems. If you want a book that tells you how to do software, this is not it. Safeware: System Safety and Computers Nancy Leveson Hardcover: 704 pages ; Dimensions (in inches): 1.21 x 9.52 x 6.60 Publisher: Addison-Wesley Pub Co; 1st edition (April 7, 1995) ISBN: 0201119722 No - I do not get royalities from the sale of the book. I have taken a class with Ms. Levenson and listened to her speak at an International System Safety Conference. Oscar peter merguerian pmerguerian2...@yahoo.com@majordomo.ieee.org on 08/21/2003 11:54:07 AM Please respond to peter merguerian pmerguerian2...@yahoo.com Sent by: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org cc: Subject: Software and Safety Dear All, Many of today's equipment utilizes software which is also relied for safety. This is true in Machinery, NEBS, Alarm Systems, Medical Systems and CPU cooling in many computers, etc. I am interested in articles and links discussing software and safety in all of the above and additional product categories. Peter - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software (See attached file: C.htm) C.htm Description: Binary data
Re: Software and Safety
In a message dated 22/08/2003 00:05:42 GMT Standard Time, pmerguerian2...@yahoo.com writes: Dear All, Many of today's equipment utilizes software which is also relied for safety. This is true in Machinery, NEBS, Alarm Systems, Medical Systems and CPU cooling in many computers, etc. I am interested in articles and links discussing software and safety in all of the above and additional product categories. Peter Peter, Take a look at the IEC 61508 series of functional safety standards. While CPU cooling in computers could rely on software, I would have thought that the purely thermal aspect would be a reliability consideration rather than safety, since CPUs are usually kept well away from accidental finger contact for functional reasons? Richard Hughes Safety Answers Ltd.
