Re: [Emc-users] Writeup on the CNC4PC MPG6 & C22 pendant
Jon, same question as Gene. Pix would be nice. I was thinking of buying one from stappenmotor.nl, they are charging 41 EUR ex. VAT for a 60mm encoder. I did not even think about one-handed operation, sound very usefull though. With a custom made (3D printed) housing from shapeways this will look as good (or better) as the mpg4 but with all the knobs and buttons at the right place for me. Regards, Rob Links: http://www.stappenmotor.nl/Steppermotor/incremental%20encoders/rotary%20incremental%20encoder/rotary%20encoders.htm http://www.shapeways.com/ Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 28 April 2009, Jon Elson wrote: > >> Rainer Schmidt wrote: >> >> I made my own jog pendants for both my Bridgeport and minimill. I >> ... >> enable button and an estop button. I put those buttons where I can work >> them one-handed, while wrapping my thumb around to move the jog dial. >> Very convenient! >> >> Jon >> > > Got links to pix, Jon? > > -- Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry leaders in dedicated Performance & Operations tracks. Use code vel09scf and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Writeup on the CNC4PC MPG6 & C22 pendant
Jon Elson writes: snip... > Also, the way it came, the red button disconnects the axis selector > switch when you press it, which seemed backwards. > So, I moved a wire to connect the axis selector switch when the button > was pressed. So, you have to press the button for the jog dial to move > anything. I ignored the web site info and just traced the whole thing out. > Jon, Um... I think you meant the white button, as I read in your original post. I found the same was true with my pendant. No apparent purpose in that. I need one hand to slip the gauge block under the tool, so I left it the way it was. I have 2 more unused wires in the cable so I could re-wire the white button for a momentary flood toggle or something. H. regards, Tom -- Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry leaders in dedicated Performance & Operations tracks. Use code vel09scf and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Writeup on the CNC4PC MPG6 & C22 pendant
On Tuesday 28 April 2009, Jon Elson wrote: >Rainer Schmidt wrote: >> Thanks for the heads up and the sharing. I was looking at a pendant >> and might opt for a self build when you have to fight with all the >> stuff in any case The quality of Chinese stuff is a real problem. > >Yeah, I fought that same battle when I set one up for Aram Kasparov at >the 2008 CNC Workshop. >Also, the way it came, the red button disconnects the axis selector >switch when you press it, which seemed backwards. >So, I moved a wire to connect the axis selector switch when the button >was pressed. So, you have to press the button for the jog dial to move >anything. I ignored the web site info and just traced the whole thing out. > >I made my own jog pendants for both my Bridgeport and minimill. I >bought an HEDSS jog encoder from a Hong Kong (I think) seller on eBay >for what I thought was a somewhat inflated price. But, I couldn't find >anything else, new or used, for a better price. Then I used a pair of >miniature rotary switches I had in my junk box. I also have a jog >enable button and an estop button. I put those buttons where I can work >them one-handed, while wrapping my thumb around to move the jog dial. >Very convenient! > >Jon Got links to pix, Jon? -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Someone in DAYTON, Ohio is selling USED CARPETS to a SERBO-CROATIAN -- Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry leaders in dedicated Performance & Operations tracks. Use code vel09scf and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Writeup on the CNC4PC MPG6 & C22 pendant
Rainer Schmidt wrote: > Thanks for the heads up and the sharing. I was looking at a pendant > and might opt for a self build when you have to fight with all the > stuff in any case The quality of Chinese stuff is a real problem. > Yeah, I fought that same battle when I set one up for Aram Kasparov at the 2008 CNC Workshop. Also, the way it came, the red button disconnects the axis selector switch when you press it, which seemed backwards. So, I moved a wire to connect the axis selector switch when the button was pressed. So, you have to press the button for the jog dial to move anything. I ignored the web site info and just traced the whole thing out. I made my own jog pendants for both my Bridgeport and minimill. I bought an HEDSS jog encoder from a Hong Kong (I think) seller on eBay for what I thought was a somewhat inflated price. But, I couldn't find anything else, new or used, for a better price. Then I used a pair of miniature rotary switches I had in my junk box. I also have a jog enable button and an estop button. I put those buttons where I can work them one-handed, while wrapping my thumb around to move the jog dial. Very convenient! Jon -- Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry leaders in dedicated Performance & Operations tracks. Use code vel09scf and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Writeup on the CNC4PC MPG6 & C22 pendant
John Thornton writes: > > If the pendant can be seen by the system it can be used I > assume as one would use a usb joy pad... > > http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Simple_Remote_Pendant > John, I thought I had read on this list that the USB "Shuttle Pro", which is an amazing less than $100 pendant when used with Mach3, didn't play well with EMC. It may have had to do with Linux not passing along zero crossings or some such. The Shuttle has a number of buttons, an MPG and a velocity ring. I hope my recollection is in error and the Shuttle works with EMC. Roger -- Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry leaders in dedicated Performance & Operations tracks. Use code vel09scf and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] A heads up on the Griffin
Greetings all; I'm on the xorg mailing list too, and it appears from the messages I'm seeing, that some update to evdev seems to have killed all the powermates. I put in a squawk that in that event, there were gonna be some unhappy machinists who were using it for gainful endeavors, cuz I know there are some of you who are using it for freehand stuff. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when you looked at it in the right way, did not become still more complicated. -- Poul Anderson -- Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry leaders in dedicated Performance & Operations tracks. Use code vel09scf and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Writeup on the CNC4PC MPG6 & C22 pendant
If the pendant can be seen by the system it can be used I assume as one would use a usb joy pad... http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Simple_Remote_Pendant John On 28 Apr 2009 at 19:14, Rainer Schmidt wrote: > Thanks for the heads up and the sharing. I was looking at a > pendant > and might opt for a self build when you have to fight with all the > stuff in any case The quality of Chinese stuff is a real > problem. > Money for nothing. > Again thanks a LOT > Rainer > > PS;I would LOVE to have that Pendant running which I have on > Mach3. > But that's USB > > > -- > Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations > Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of > expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from > industry > leaders in dedicated Performance & Operations tracks. Use code > vel09scf > and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry leaders in dedicated Performance & Operations tracks. Use code vel09scf and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Writeup on the CNC4PC MPG6 & C22 pendant
Thanks for the heads up and the sharing. I was looking at a pendant and might opt for a self build when you have to fight with all the stuff in any case The quality of Chinese stuff is a real problem. Money for nothing. Again thanks a LOT Rainer PS;I would LOVE to have that Pendant running which I have on Mach3. But that's USB -- Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry leaders in dedicated Performance & Operations tracks. Use code vel09scf and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Fest motels
Gentlemen, I drove around Wichita today to find a good cheap motel. I found one. It is clean and nice. First choice is Western Holiday 8925 W. Kellogg Wichita, Ks. 67209 316 722 4241 easy location to/from shop should have plenty of rooms for all if reserved soon enough limited qty nonsmoking internet smoking and nonsmoking bar and grill 33.00 + tax single non 42.00 + tax double non Second choice is Sunset Motel 2328 S. Broadway Wichita, Ks. 67211 316 264 0509 easy location to/from shop limited number of rooms limited qty nonsmoking clean internet $30.00 tax included single call for double rates if needed There are quite a number of motels at this rate. Until today I had never seen a motel in the United States that rates negative STARS to the rating system. I have now. :) I am sure the others are between these. All will negotiate a multi-night discount. Some more than others thanks Stuart -- you can lead a person to knowledge but you cannot make him think -- Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry leaders in dedicated Performance & Operations tracks. Use code vel09scf and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Good eBay Find?
On Tuesday 28 April 2009, Dave Engvall wrote: >On Apr 28, 2009, at 5:31 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Monday 27 April 2009, Kirk Wallace wrote: >>> I don't know enough about EDM. Does this look like a good EMC2 >>> project? >>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170321678813 >> >> Auction closed now. I don't think I'd want to put $500 into it >> since edm can >> be done, although non-automatically for under a $100 bill, I've >> done it >> several times here. > > > >> Did anyone ever come up with a method to automate the feed via emc >> for this? > >As for gap Pete will tell you that when it sounds like frying >bacon it is just right. As was my judgement, but a 10uf cap at 75 volts & 3 or 4 amps is noisy! Even my 74 year old ears were complaining. Very loud bacon. :) >A few years ago Pete Gruendeman , gruendeman AT att.net, brought a >sinker edm to fest. >Nice RC unit including a C axis so he could thread. A 1/4-20 thread >in a file is pretty cute. What would you use for electrode? Keeping that tip sharp enough to reach the bottom of the thread seems to look like a major problem to me. I'd assume that a much smaller cap than my 10uf would also give a smoother surface? Does Pete by chance have a web page? >It used a custom program written in compiled Basic under DOS. The >gap sensor was a >couple couple of comparators. The Z was driven by a stepper/servo. >He planned to use parallel springs to hang a small X/Y (+- 0.01) for >orbiting. I just turn the spindle on at lazy rpms, my ground connection is just the wire, spread around the tubing and twisted on the other side, propped up to stay out of the way. It polishes the tubing. Just enough run-out in hobby brass tubing to work rather nicely, and shorts seem to be self clearing after a couple of turns if I just stop the z and let it set still turning. I assume he was watching the peak and average voltages? With a 20 volt band gap, high starts the stepper at whatever speed its set at, and a low average stops it. Let the rotation clear a short by stirring in fresh dielectric fluid. If I did it often enough (once a year doesn't meet my definition of 'often enough') I'd see what I could come up with for hardware. >Don't know if he ever got it finished. > >Steve Stallings may know the status of this project. > >Dave Thanks Dave. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Feanor: u have no idea of the depth of the stupidty of american law -- Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry leaders in dedicated Performance & Operations tracks. Use code vel09scf and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Writeup on the CNC4PC MPG6 & C22 pendant
OH... and I forgot to mention that 4 of the 6 screw attachment threaded holes that are used to hold the 2 halves of the plastic case together were split. This seems typical of plastic resins used in China (Harbor Freight?!*) Tom -- Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry leaders in dedicated Performance & Operations tracks. Use code vel09scf and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Writeup on the CNC4PC MPG6 & C22 pendant
Hi all, I finally got my CNC4PC 6 axis pendant set up to jog 3 axis, plus feed & spindle override in Emc2_2.3.0 / Axis. I am using the ilowpass filter to de- jitter the raw jog counts, and it is working quite well. This was not an entirely happy experience. The roughly $200.00 pendant & Parallel port interface is a Chinese product with Chinglish documentation and as such, requires a lot of reverse engineering to get things working. MP6 pendant: http://www.cnc4pc.com/Store/osc/product_info.php?cPath=40&products_id=162 The biggest issue is that although the web page above states that the pendant is a 6 axis pendant, it is not in fact what they say it is. The pendant that I received from them has only 4 axes that are wired, and 3 wires that are cut inside the pendant. The axis selector rotary switch has one extra position that can be jumper/soldered to one of the extra wires. I used the pink/black wire to do this. The "advertised" 6th axis position does not even exist on the rotary switch. After connecting the pink/black wire to the 5th axis output on the back of the rotary switch & checking with a continuity meter, I then moved that wire from pin 19 to pin 18 on the back of the DB25 connector attached to the end of the cable on the pendant and checked it again. I found that after plugging it into the C22 P-port adapter, the signal then appears on pin 12 of the Parallel port going into the computer. All the other signals appear as documented on the seller's web. C22 adapter: http://www.cnc4pc.com/Store/osc/product_info.php?cPath=40&products_id=159 The halui spindle/feed override function now includes an enable input which makes activating/deactivating those functions using the selector switch a no- brainer (thanks guys!). Here is a link to my pendant.hal file: http://www.foxpointdesign.com/cnc_stuff/pendant.hal You must add to the [HAL] section of your ini file this statement to enable the halui pins/functions: HALUI = halui and since my pendant.hal file is separate: HALFILE = pendant.hal To allow the overrides some range to function, I also add to the ini: MAX_FEED_OVERRIDE = 1.5 MAX_SPINDLE_OVERRIDE = 1.5 Any comments or corrections before adding to the wiki would be welcome! Tom -- Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry leaders in dedicated Performance & Operations tracks. Use code vel09scf and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Units and Touch Off Feature
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:11:20 -0500, you wrote: >> Also, the tool table always follows the .ini file units. I wonder if >> being able to list inch or mm with the data would be better? Then the >> data could be converted automatically to what is needed. > >This is not such an easy addition as Touch Off, unfortunately. And not one you should alter ;) It's normal for lathe tool offsets and tables to be in absolute native machine units and they should never alter. If you are setting a tool length, the tool table values ALWAYS stays in "radius" mode, NEVER "diameter" mode, the conversion is done in CAM and the program controller display. Anything other than that will royally screw up "diameter mode" CAM produced code. Steve Blackmore -- E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.12270 http://www.pctools.com/uk/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ -- Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry leaders in dedicated Performance & Operations tracks. Use code vel09scf and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] AXIS window size?
Chris, Ok. I just tried that on my Dapper system with 2.3 installed. EMC2 started up using axis with an 875x601 window even though the display is set for 800x600. This does have the pyvcp spindle speed panel configured in. I have the screen DPI set for 75, it was 96 when I first checked it. - John Guenther 'Ye Olde Pen Maker' Sterling, Virginia On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 13:21 -0500, Chris Radek wrote: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 01:50:53PM -0400, John Guenther wrote: > > Is it possible to resize the axis window to something under 800 x 600? > > The reason I am asking is my shop display by necessity is a 10.4 inch > > LCD touch screen. I can display resolutions higher that its native > > 800x600 resolution but they are not always acceptable. I have tried the > > usual methods of resizing the axis window but it will only go down to > > 599 for a height and that does not work too will with the standard > > ubuntu windows. > > Hm, I thought it worked ok on 800x600 still. What version of EMC and > Ubuntu? > > It may help to reduce your screen DPI. Try setting it to 75 if the > X server guessed something higher. On my Dapper system this is > under system / preferences / font / details. > > > -- > Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations > Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of > expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry > leaders in dedicated Performance & Operations tracks. Use code vel09scf > and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry leaders in dedicated Performance & Operations tracks. Use code vel09scf and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] AXIS window size?
Hi Chris, I will try that. This system is a Hardy system with 2.3 installed. - John Guenther 'Ye Olde Pen Maker' Sterling, Virginia On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 13:21 -0500, Chris Radek wrote: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 01:50:53PM -0400, John Guenther wrote: > > Is it possible to resize the axis window to something under 800 x 600? > > The reason I am asking is my shop display by necessity is a 10.4 inch > > LCD touch screen. I can display resolutions higher that its native > > 800x600 resolution but they are not always acceptable. I have tried the > > usual methods of resizing the axis window but it will only go down to > > 599 for a height and that does not work too will with the standard > > ubuntu windows. > > Hm, I thought it worked ok on 800x600 still. What version of EMC and > Ubuntu? > > It may help to reduce your screen DPI. Try setting it to 75 if the > X server guessed something higher. On my Dapper system this is > under system / preferences / font / details. > > > -- > Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations > Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of > expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry > leaders in dedicated Performance & Operations tracks. Use code vel09scf > and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry leaders in dedicated Performance & Operations tracks. Use code vel09scf and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] AXIS window size?
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 01:50:53PM -0400, John Guenther wrote: > Is it possible to resize the axis window to something under 800 x 600? > The reason I am asking is my shop display by necessity is a 10.4 inch > LCD touch screen. I can display resolutions higher that its native > 800x600 resolution but they are not always acceptable. I have tried the > usual methods of resizing the axis window but it will only go down to > 599 for a height and that does not work too will with the standard > ubuntu windows. Hm, I thought it worked ok on 800x600 still. What version of EMC and Ubuntu? It may help to reduce your screen DPI. Try setting it to 75 if the X server guessed something higher. On my Dapper system this is under system / preferences / font / details. -- Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry leaders in dedicated Performance & Operations tracks. Use code vel09scf and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] AXIS window size?
Is it possible to resize the axis window to something under 800 x 600? The reason I am asking is my shop display by necessity is a 10.4 inch LCD touch screen. I can display resolutions higher that its native 800x600 resolution but they are not always acceptable. I have tried the usual methods of resizing the axis window but it will only go down to 599 for a height and that does not work too will with the standard ubuntu windows. Any help or input will be greatly appreciated. - John Guenther 'Ye Olde Pen Maker' Sterling, Virginia -- Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry leaders in dedicated Performance & Operations tracks. Use code vel09scf and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver
I'm a UNIX guy and actually do not use spaces in anything. But if I have an input field, then I rely on the validation of the input. Stepconf allows the space in a profile name but subsequently fails to fix that up or reject it for later use as filename. I always found VMS to be the simplest OS. Also very stable. We had a server problem with a memory leak. No sources... so no way to fix that. We used a cheap electrical timer which pulled the plug every morning at 2am and restored power at 2:30. Over 5 years there has been no problem with that. Then the box became obsolete. I think they buried it next to it's trusty timer in the local landfill... sni good times Btw what happens when that dreaded 'unexpected realtime blabla' happens and it's ignored. Rough running? Steps missed? All seems to be running good now. My little Taig Mill runs WAY faster now without any hickups or rough running compared to the comparably crappy performance under Mach3. Really nice. Can't wait to confirm the moves with a micrometer and then cut something cool on it. Cheers Rainer On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 5:47 AM, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: > At 02:36 PM 4/27/2009, you wrote: >>Another Day in the EMC Noob Shop >> >>I got all set up and started EMC just to see it fail. >>No real error message. Just that every process is terminating nicely >>and that everything is being cleaned up. I fished around for a while >>using my newly acquired trouble shooting skill set haha. And I found >>the problem It is a really bad idea to go and have a space in the >>config name. G. 'Rainers Taig' quickly became 'Rainers_Taig' and >>all ran of the bat. Motors turning and all. Now I have to work and >>after that I will calibrate all. Next thing is a pendant... I want to >>route in luxury... >>R > > Ah, you Winders guys... ;-) I cut my computer teeth on VMS and > Unix, and now, even on Winders machines I still underscore between > words in file names. I suppose you could always enclose the file > name in double quotes to manipulate it, depending on the shell you are using. > > Mark > > > -- > Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations > Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of > expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry > leaders in dedicated Performance & Operations tracks. Use code vel09scf > and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- _ Rainer M. Schmidt Complex Consulting LLC b...@complexllc.com VoIP (646)-233-1002 FAX (646)-435-9216 -- Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry leaders in dedicated Performance & Operations tracks. Use code vel09scf and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Good eBay Find?
On Apr 28, 2009, at 5:31 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 27 April 2009, Kirk Wallace wrote: >> I don't know enough about EDM. Does this look like a good EMC2 >> project? >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170321678813 > > Auction closed now. I don't think I'd want to put $500 into it > since edm can > be done, although non-automatically for under a $100 bill, I've > done it > several times here. > Did anyone ever come up with a method to automate the feed via emc > for this? As for gap Pete will tell you that when it sounds like frying bacon it is just right. A few years ago Pete Gruendeman , gruendeman AT att.net, brought a sinker edm to fest. Nice RC unit including a C axis so he could thread. A 1/4-20 thread in a file is pretty cute. It used a custom program written in compiled Basic under DOS. The gap sensor was a couple couple of comparators. The Z was driven by a stepper/servo. He planned to use parallel springs to hang a small X/Y (+- 0.01) for orbiting. Don't know if he ever got it finished. Steve Stallings may know the status of this project. Dave > > -- > Cheers, Gene > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > I can't drive 55. > > > -- > > Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations > Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of > expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry > leaders in dedicated Performance & Operations tracks. Use code > vel09scf > and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry leaders in dedicated Performance & Operations tracks. Use code vel09scf and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Uses for a defunct UPS. [Was: Re: picoPSU needs low?ESR filter caps?]
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 03:24:49PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > IIRC there are 4 6 volt gel cell packs in it, 24 volts. This one is a > big old honk and 6 years old at least. I have replaced the batteries > and blown the dirt out of the fans & case several times, but it just > plain runs too darned hot for gel cells and they expire in about a > year, at $225 a set. 1500 VA is plenty to pull out of 24v. With four times the losses of a 48v inverter, it has to run hotter. But I don't think I'm delivering any news there. :-) It won't take long to pay for a new one, just on the battery savings. > >[1] I'll heed your admonition about catastrophic capacitor failure. :-) > > Its not the caps that fail, its all the other stuff that can't take > the surges when the esr on them goes to hell. Ah, oh, hmmm ..., I'd better put together that little esr meter then, because I found a bank of 2700 µF 80v capacitors in a retired SMPS. I thought that if the esr is OK, I'll use them in the supply to drive at least one axis. I spent several hours last night, hunting the web for low esr electrolytics here in Australia, but found nothing over 470µF in 80v. There's 15,000 µF 63v, but using them at 50v seems cutting it too fine. (At Siemens we weren't allowed to use electrolytics above half their rated voltage, and 2/3 of rated temperature, IIRC.) Maybe I can find some in the US. (I don't think they're a good item to buy on ebay, though.) Erik -- The Heineken Uncertainty Principle: You can never be sure how many beers you had last night. -- Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry leaders in dedicated Performance & Operations tracks. Use code vel09scf and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Good eBay Find?
On Monday 27 April 2009, Kirk Wallace wrote: >I don't know enough about EDM. Does this look like a good EMC2 project? >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170321678813 Auction closed now. I don't think I'd want to put $500 into it since edm can be done, although non-automatically for under a $100 bill, I've done it several times here. Last time I needed 4 holes in a 10" saw blade to mount it on my rotary table and use emc to sharpen it. Drill bits just bounced off its chrome plated side surfaces. I grabbed a caulking gun, the rim from a plastic spool of teflon tape, coated the rim with caulk, set it down on the saw blade & poured it full of kerosene. Ground on a length of 1/4 brass pipe in the mills chuck, hot on the blade mounted on wood. Supply is a pair of $7 36 volt transformers, secondaries in series feeding a full wave bridge, the bridge feeding through a 50 ohm 200 watt resistor, with a 10 uf paper capacitor as the discharge storage capacitor. Set z down till it gets real noisy and start the spindle at about 100 rpm, feed at about .015" minute. The kero will blacken rapidly, but you can hear the progress. For younger ears, a set of gun mufflers might be in order, that 10 uf is NOISY when it fires. Smaller cap would be nice and quieter but that is what was in the junk box at the Heskett Ranchette. As the blade was a thin kerf blade, about 6 or 7 minutes a hole. Nice, very neat holes that cleared a 1/4" bolt about .005". Did anyone ever come up with a method to automate the feed via emc for this? -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) I can't drive 55. -- Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry leaders in dedicated Performance & Operations tracks. Use code vel09scf and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Switching to Vesa Driver
At 02:36 PM 4/27/2009, you wrote: >Another Day in the EMC Noob Shop > >I got all set up and started EMC just to see it fail. >No real error message. Just that every process is terminating nicely >and that everything is being cleaned up. I fished around for a while >using my newly acquired trouble shooting skill set haha. And I found >the problem It is a really bad idea to go and have a space in the >config name. G. 'Rainers Taig' quickly became 'Rainers_Taig' and >all ran of the bat. Motors turning and all. Now I have to work and >after that I will calibrate all. Next thing is a pendant... I want to >route in luxury... >R Ah, you Winders guys... ;-) I cut my computer teeth on VMS and Unix, and now, even on Winders machines I still underscore between words in file names. I suppose you could always enclose the file name in double quotes to manipulate it, depending on the shell you are using. Mark -- Register Now & Save for Velocity, the Web Performance & Operations Conference from O'Reilly Media. Velocity features a full day of expert-led, hands-on workshops and two days of sessions from industry leaders in dedicated Performance & Operations tracks. Use code vel09scf and Save an extra 15% before 5/3. http://p.sf.net/sfu/velocityconf ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users